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Title: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: Kindlinmaker on May 02, 2021, 12:13:31 AM
I can speculate all day long and come up with several current factors that might be driving the current purchase demand for sawmills but it would still be just that - speculation.  Does anyone actually know what is driving the demand?  
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: mike_belben on May 02, 2021, 12:26:25 AM
Speculation!
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: Ianab on May 02, 2021, 04:09:42 AM
Lumber Prices?

But what's driving Lumber Prices? ???
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: Tacotodd on May 02, 2021, 08:42:45 AM
It's like anything else, most people don't realize just what has to be done to come out with the results that they are use to & they think that they are being short changed, SOMEHOW.

Life is hard, it's harder when they don't get their mind wrapped around that one little simple fact.

Driving is tough, but only when you really think about ALL the little stuff involved in the end result, whether it be paying someone else to maintain said vehicle (takes $ that SOMEONE had to earn), $ of being driven around (same thing) and the list of everything goes around like that.

It's like the old bumper stickers from the 70's , cash, grass, or ash, nobody rides for free. Somebody got to come up with something, because it's impossible to get something for nothing!


EVERYTHING in life is like my driving example, I just used driving because everyone on this site can appreciate that in one form or another.
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: kantuckid on May 02, 2021, 08:49:02 AM
I've been hanging around some on the FB WM Group. I've seen many people buying (meaning ordering if a new mill with long wait times) mills that don't know a tree from a telephone post. Seriously true based on commentary/questions asked. I definitely don't mean most of that groups members as most are people who saw for income. I do mean the newer folks buying a mill thinking I don't know what? Some of it derives from the natural edge slab & cookies thing in recent years. 
No doubt it will be hard on some forests. It may eventually make a bunch of used mills show up as they fail to make those payments. 
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: Bruno of NH on May 02, 2021, 08:58:05 AM
The thoughts of making easy money  :D
Its harder than most folks think .
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: Patrick NC on May 02, 2021, 09:33:18 AM
As someone who is still fairly new to milling, I can share a little insight into what led me to it. I have always been interested in sawing my own lumber, but never could seem to afford to buy a mill. Then our kids grew up and moved away, and suddenly I had a bunch of money freed up that was looking for a place to get spent. I bought my first mill and liked it so much that very shortly found myself needing a bigger mill. So I ended up buying my current mill about 10 months later. It was baffling to me how much the market had changed in that short period of time. I got my first mill the same day I bought it and 10 months later I had to wait 6 weeks for my new one to come in. Would have been a much longer wait for a woodmizer. I'm sure that low interest rates( cheap money) and high lumber prices are driving a lot of the demand. I paid cash for mine, so I don't have to worry about sawing to make a payment. 
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: Sodrawdy on May 02, 2021, 10:06:26 AM
I bought my mill 4 years ago to build my own shop. I have land and trees but not enough money saved up to build the shop. It just seemed like a better investment to me to buy the mill and cut my own lumber. Fast forward until today and the Lumber prices + Stimulus checks and people being out of work, looking for something to do to supplement their income and a mill just sounds to good to pass up. I have had a lot of people I know buy the mills to start a business and fail miserably. I bought the mill as a hobby item that turned into a business.  
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: Kindlinmaker on May 02, 2021, 12:16:58 PM
I actually wanted to restart Richhiway's thread from February about this subject and see if any "new" information had come to the forefront.  I didn't mean to disregard all the good answers that were posted then but frankly, I just couldn't find the post to work with it.  The "Similar Topics" feature did find it for me after I started the new post which just proves how technically challenged I can be.

Anyway, we don't seem to have any new "wow" information yet but I hope some might still be out there.

I sure hope the demand is being driven by folks who are just spending more time at home with projects/hobbies and not folks who might be spending their limited resources on a hope for a new livelihood.  Milling is great as a part time business or hobby that pays its own way but it is hard to make a full time living.  I fear Kantuckid is correct about a bunch of available used iron in the future.  Reality rarely equals the dream.  I  know there are more rusting hulks of old mills than running mills in my county.  I've never been able to make a custom milling business plan work.
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: RichTired on May 02, 2021, 12:20:22 PM
I think people are putting money into sawmills instead of bassboats or other such toys.
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: HemlockKing on May 02, 2021, 04:35:37 PM
Quote from: Tacotodd on May 02, 2021, 08:42:45 AM
It’s like anything else, most people don’t realize just what has to be done to come out with the results that they are use to & they think that they are being short changed, SOMEHOW.

Life is hard, it’s harder when they don’t get their mind wrapped around that one little simple fact.

Driving is tough, but only when you really think about ALL the little stuff involved in the end result, whether it be paying someone else to maintain said vehicle (takes $ that SOMEONE had to earn), $ of being driven around (same thing) and the list of everything goes around like that.

It’s like the old bumper stickers from the 70’s , cash, grass, or ash, nobody rides for free. Somebody got to come up with something, because it’s impossible to get something for nothing!


EVERYTHING in life is like my driving example, I just used driving because everyone on this site can appreciate that in one form or another.
If I have learned if anything in this crazy life is everything rarely goes as planned, will always be unforeseen events/situations no matter how hard you try to prepare, just go with the motions and don’t fight it too hard and instead try to make the best of every scenario even if it hadn’t the one you planned.
Life is certainly difficult at times  ;D
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: Lynwoo on May 02, 2021, 05:07:36 PM
Personally I have been very frugal.  Being in the construction destruction business I progressed from buying a $56.00 new craftsman saw with my first side gig to the lt15g  last year.   Am retired and now I have time to use it . Purchased it to mill our timber for me to have materials to use at will.

I approached the sawmill game backwards.  Had the hand tools with exception to the can't hook.  Had used the ton truck, trailers, Kubota, and countless hand tools that paid for themselves over many years.  

The advantage I have experienced may not be a realistic model in this day and age but over the past close to 40 years all my gear has multi tasked and morphed into my reflection.

As a sawyer I am rather green but as a worker preforming heavy, dirty, greasy,nasty, physical labor I am fully seasoned.  I am of the nature one is required by the other to see the full picture.

This is just the way it worked out for me, no easy street but with rewards just the same.
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: mike_belben on May 02, 2021, 06:20:07 PM
Im sorta similar.  I will have built probably 20 excellent tractor and skid steer attachments before i ever have a decent tractor or skid steer.  But i wont experience what most buyers of new tool carriers experience.  Holy crap this new machine cost a bundle and cant do anything without a quiver of attachments!
 
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: Walnut Beast on May 02, 2021, 10:33:16 PM
I've had about every skidsteer attachment. Harley rake, Ashland scraper, CAT backhoe, mulching head , mower brush cutter, 4 in 1 bucket  just to name a few. Some worked great and others didn't. I know one thing if you want something to run good you need power and hi flow hydraulics. If it's going to be something like a brush cutter mower on low flow it will do it but you probably will be disappointed 
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: Joe Hillmann on May 02, 2021, 11:14:45 PM
People have lots of free money.
Fear of inflation,  buy it now before prices go up.
High lumber prices.
More free time but still getting a paycheck
Low intrest rates on borrowed money.
Production is down due to lack of components.
People want a oil powered mill now  instead of the only option being electric mill in the near future.
Probably lots of other reasons as well.
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: Wattwood on May 03, 2021, 07:01:56 AM
YouTube community college...

Out of the Woods, Iron and Oak, Matt Cremona, Fall Line Ridge, Josaljo Won... Every time a bucket of water gets thrown on a walnut slab another order goes in for a new mill.
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: jbjbuild on May 03, 2021, 07:43:57 AM
Quote from: Wattwood on May 03, 2021, 07:01:56 AM
YouTube community college...

Out of the Woods, Iron and Oak, Matt Cremona, Fall Line Ridge, Josaljo Won... Every time a bucket of water gets thrown on a walnut slab another order goes in for a new mill.


I was just going to say the same thing. I think YouTube has a lot to do with it.
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: VB-Milling on May 03, 2021, 09:34:21 AM
Quote from: Wattwood on May 03, 2021, 07:01:56 AM
Every time a bucket of water gets thrown on a walnut slab another order goes in for a new mill.

This literally made me spit out my coffee while laughing!  Laughing because its so darn funny and rings so true!
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: WV Sawmiller on May 03, 2021, 09:46:57 AM
  Oh! So now it's Nathan's fault? He should be getting a commission on all new sales. :D :D :D 
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: Walnut Beast on May 03, 2021, 08:43:24 PM
People keep buying regardless of price 😂. Throw back Monday to 2010. 
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Now it's 46,000
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: Jeff on May 03, 2021, 09:24:51 PM
Youtube and every offgrid show made in Alaska and fear. 
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: hacknchop on May 03, 2021, 10:52:03 PM
As a lumber grader and sawmill operator i wish it was necessary for someone to actually learn how to produce quality lumber before setting up a business either selling or custom milling material that is below grade.I have started to set up 2 visits with those who decide to cut the lumber for their own projects first one to educate as to what defects to watch for when sawing and how to maximize the grade of the lumber they produce and the second after they are done sawing to grade it. 
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: hacknchop on May 03, 2021, 10:56:01 PM
Everybody has to learn but it should be on their own dime.:)
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: Brucer on May 03, 2021, 11:47:22 PM
There are lots of factors driving demand:
More money to buy a mill.
Less travel = more money in the bank.
Less eating out = more money in the bank.
More working from home = fewer expenses.
Low interest rates.
More time to run a mill.
Less commuting = more time available to saw.
Less visiting with people = more time available to saw.
Higher lumber prices.
More home renovations = more demand.
Huge forest losses due to fire = less supply.
Shortfall in supply of sawmills.
Shortage of shipping containers = lack of components from overseas.
Unavailability of foreign products = increase in domestic demand.
Health & safety considerations = decrease in domestic supply.

All of these are driven by Covid-19 on a huge scale, in a very short time frame. As more people get vaccinated the economy will adjust, but this is going to happen over a much longer time period. There's going to be a lot of fluctuation over the next few years. I expect there'll be a lot of mills sitting around barely used -- the owners will try to get back most of what they paid, but the prices of new mills will be falling.
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: 21incher on May 04, 2021, 01:52:51 PM
It's  not just mills, it's all big ticket items. I think it has something to do with baby boomers that are looking  for new hobbies and sources of income in retirement.  Most have made a boat load of money  on investments and 401ks over the last 4 years so it's time to cash some in before the Capitol gain tax hikes coming  next year and inflation caused price increases. The prices of used are now skyrocketing due to shortages also. Just another cycle before the next market crash.
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: mike_belben on May 04, 2021, 04:26:57 PM
way to go boomers.  

;D
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: alan gage on May 04, 2021, 04:59:03 PM
Things go around. It's not the first, nor will it be the last, time that people feel the need to buy a little land and live in the country. There's been a long trend of building big (Mcmansions) with modern painted furnishings. Now wood is coming back. And not just any wood. The uglier and more rustic the better. Hey, why not get a little sawmill and make our own? Or get a big sawmill and cash in on selling it to everyone else.

I wasn't alive then but it seems there was a similar movement after the suburbia boom in the middle of the last century. People are always rebelling against whatever they get tired of, and someday they'll get tired of this. 

It seemed to me this (increased sawmill sales) was all beginning before Covid hit but that in the last year it's really spiked, either due to higher demand, lower output from the factories, or both.

I'd still love to hear the sales numbers from some of the mill manufacturers. How much are sales up? Is it a dramatic amount or is the high demand mere perception because bottlenecks are slowing production?

Alan
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: Ohioian on May 04, 2021, 08:18:56 PM
Like a couple of individuals have stated, there are people like me who have worked for the past 40 plus years and retired early with a large 401k and no bills have some spare money to spend. 
 I purchased one in September as a hobby and to complete a couple of honey do items including a timber frame pavilion. "Happy wife happy life". 
  With 20 plus acres of mature hardwoods, I hate seeing good lumber to go waste due to wind storms or just falling down. 
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: OH logger on May 04, 2021, 08:25:11 PM
I'm in the camp of "there's gonna be plenty of good barely used low hour mills for sale cheap when this eventually blows over". At least that's what I'm waiting for anyways  :)  Then I'll buy one and sell lumber when it's cheap. Lol that's my thing 🤔. Timing has never been my strong suit
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: nativewolf on May 04, 2021, 09:49:22 PM
Quote from: OH logger on May 04, 2021, 08:25:11 PM
I'm in the camp of "there's gonna be plenty of good barely used low hour mills for sale cheap when this eventually blows over". At least that's what I'm waiting for anyways  :)  Then I'll buy one and sell lumber when it's cheap. Lol that's my thing 🤔. Timing has never been my strong suit
Oh you are the other guy they keep talking about.  One day we should meet and share stories.
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: Southside on May 04, 2021, 10:10:49 PM
Off topic a little, but to show the insanity of it all.  The county sent out the tax bills last week, in there was a two page note explaining how COVID has caused used vehicles to increase in value, so your year older, with more mileage vehicle has a higher tax bill due, because it's worth more. Can't make this stuff up.   
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: bannerd on May 05, 2021, 07:00:56 AM
At our local church a similar question was asked and many people are buying Saw Mills and Dump Trucks or "AG Things" to be more self sufficient. 

These are the questions that I remember people asking..


The list went on but at the end of the day the community is strong and I think together we can over come those fears.  In the mean time It seems to me we're not in a good spot and there is a massive amount of freedom being lost especially in the "Commercial/business" vector.  With no freedom or limited freedom it is really driving people to be more self sufficient.  Food bills are the number one expense most people with families face.  When you have a government that is Top heavy to begin with and hands out tax dollars by the margin.. it just adds to the top which will eventually cause total collapse.  Regardless a strong community in heart should pull through but there is a lot of fear and worry these days.
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: diegokid on May 05, 2021, 07:55:23 AM
We were looking at mills for a few reasons.
1.  Going to retire from my second career soon.
2.  Have 60 acres of land.
3.  Relatives who clear land who will provide more free lumber, well I have to go pick it up but have truck and trailer capable of that.
4.  Just like making stuff.

Anyway list goes on but will mostly be used for hobby stuff, friends family.  Have pretty much decided on woodland 130 with a trailer for options to move it around.  Biggest reason is wife of thirty years is on board with it too, that's the majority of the battle for most.
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: VB-Milling on May 05, 2021, 08:05:06 AM
Quote from: diegokid on May 05, 2021, 07:55:23 AM
Biggest reason is wife of thirty years is on board with it too, that's the majority of the battle for most.

When the wife is onboard, everything is just easier LOL
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: Tacotodd on May 05, 2021, 01:23:52 PM
Happy wife, happy life!
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: jpassardi on May 05, 2021, 01:43:54 PM
Quote from: OH logger on May 04, 2021, 08:25:11 PM
I'm in the camp of "there's gonna be plenty of good barely used low hour mills for sale cheap when this eventually blows over". At least that's what I'm waiting for anyways  :)  Then I'll buy one and sell lumber when it's cheap. Lol that's my thing 🤔. Timing has never been my strong suit
I have to say, I had the same thought - in a couple years there will be a surplus of used mills.
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: ohiowoodchuck on May 05, 2021, 03:18:17 PM
Quote from: OH logger on May 04, 2021, 08:25:11 PM
I'm in the camp of "there's gonna be plenty of good barely used low hour mills for sale cheap when this eventually blows over". At least that's what I'm waiting for anyways  :)  Then I'll buy one and sell lumber when it's cheap. Lol that's my thing 🤔. Timing has never been my strong suit
Me either. I'm on the woodmizer waiting list. I'll try my hand with this little manual mill and in a couple years if the market is flooded I'll upgrade to a full hydraulic. I got plenty of wood. 
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: Tacotodd on May 05, 2021, 04:54:27 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: LeeB on May 05, 2021, 09:49:09 PM
I suspect the market may be flooded but not so sure the deals will be so great. Internet has changed the price of used items.
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: ohiowoodchuck on May 06, 2021, 08:41:43 AM
Quote from: LeeB on May 05, 2021, 09:49:09 PM
I suspect the market may be flooded but not so sure the deals will be so great. Internet has changed the price of used items.
You could be right. I've noticed that a lot here over the last 4-5 years with farm auctions. For what worn out used is bringing, it would be better to buy new. I saw two guys get into a bidding war and paid more for a two year old John Deere planter then what a new one costs. 
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: TKehl on May 06, 2021, 10:08:29 AM
My gut tells me there will be a glut of hobby mills for sale with low hours, but weathered or under a tattered tarp.  

I'm betting the higher end mills will hold more of their value long term though...
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: alan gage on May 06, 2021, 10:35:50 AM
Quote from: LeeB on May 05, 2021, 09:49:09 PM
I suspect the market may be flooded but not so sure the deals will be so great. Internet has changed the price of used items.
I think it cuts both ways. It's much harder to find something priced way below market value but it also levels the playing field by letting a person see what's available nationwide to keep someone from asking well over market value without good reason.
Either way if there are more mills than buyers prices will go down, just as now they're going up since there seems to be more buyers than mills.
Alan
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: DocGP on May 06, 2021, 11:33:41 AM
Being a new guy as I am, my small bit of humble advice to those on the waiting list is to order a few blades now.  So they will be waiting for the saw.  Browse the great info here and get a few different ones to try, or if you know, maybe a box or two, so you won't then be waiting on blades when the new baby arrives.

Doc
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: Brad_bb on May 06, 2021, 11:46:07 AM
I agree with Jeff, a lot of mill exposure on youtube and certain prepper shows.  Also, during the pandemic, many people had a lot more time on their hands and looking for something to do, and watching more of the aforementioned youtube etc.
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: snobdds on May 06, 2021, 12:56:32 PM

The average family of 4 received 12k in extra stimulus money for 2020, 2021.

It has to go somewhere...
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: farmfromkansas on May 06, 2021, 09:52:29 PM
Just checked the auction results for yesterdays Big Iron auction, they had a 17 model LT 40HD with a debarker, and it sold for 67,500.  Someone from California bought it. Hope the woodmizer company does not find out, price of mills could go crazy.
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: mike_belben on May 06, 2021, 10:01:21 PM
A fool and his money...
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: Southside on May 06, 2021, 10:42:40 PM
With those prices I might have to wax the 70 and take a promo video of her chewing through a few logs....
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: Magicman on May 07, 2021, 08:00:08 AM
I may have already mentioned it in this topic, but I have had several phone calls from folks wanting to buy my sawmill.  My selling price is firm @ $55K.  :)
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: WV Sawmiller on May 07, 2021, 08:04:34 AM
  Remember MM - 5% goes to the FF if the buyer saw it here. :D
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: maple flats on May 07, 2021, 09:16:32 AM
I just ordered a new mill last Monday, but it's to replace a Peterson WPF I just sold. That was a great mill, but since I no longer saw for hire, coupled with the fact that my biggest trees are 32" or less, I no longer needed such a large cut capability. I sold that and ordered a 30" cut band mill. Having had a mill since 2004, I'm well aware of what work is involved. I just need to keep busy, and with the bandmill being set up in a floored saw shed, the walking to push the mill back and forth will be far easier than what I had on a bad hip.
I think what's driving sales are manifold. More people at home, stimulus checks, lumber prices and likely the romantic notion that in a few hours you can cut your own lumber to build everything you want to build.
Won't they get a big wake up call. I also agree, in a few years there will be lots of mills for sale as payments become due. I feel sorry for those who borrowed the money to buy a mill.
At 74 yrs of age, I just couldn't see waiting to get a mill as a bunch become available in 2-5 yrs.
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: stavebuyer on May 07, 2021, 10:46:56 AM
I also think there will be a lot of people surprised that while they saw some pretty lumber that it will often need to be dried, planed, and possibly graded to be useful and that while the surface is smooth the dimensions may not be as uniform as they think once they go to use it.
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: Rhodemont on May 07, 2021, 11:23:23 AM
I purchased my LT35HD in 2016 because I have a lot of forest land and wanted to use my own trees to build horse fencing , run in sheds, hay barn, etc... So not being a business it is a hobby but has paid for itself  (if you consider my labor free) against buying material  for the projects.  Word of mouth has generated quite a number of inquiries to sell fence boards so it does generate some cash flow now when I free up some time to take them on.  A couple of those who have bought boards have now purchased mills of there own.  I do not get it, they live on a couple acres.  How much wood can they need?  In a few days enough hobby wood could be milled to last 10 years.  Rather than asking about boards they are asking to buy logs because they have already learned that scrounging gets you junk wood.  Actually, this has worked out pretty good because I priced the logs per Bdf using doyle at the same rate as I did the milled boards I sold them and they did not even bat an eye. So I cut out my milling labor to generate the same cash.
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: Jeff on May 07, 2021, 12:51:10 PM
We are going to feel the effects here. We already are with new registrations of new mill owners. At least once they have found us they have the most complete source of information on real world sawmilling information in recorded history.
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: Southside on May 07, 2021, 02:33:27 PM
Was there a bunch of recorded sawmilling information in pre-recorded history that has been lost or something?  :D
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: Lawg Dawg on May 07, 2021, 03:24:38 PM
Quote from: Southside on May 07, 2021, 02:33:27 PM
Was there a bunch of recorded sawmilling information in pre-recorded history that has been lost or something?  :D
It was BLEACH Bitted 😂
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: Jeff on May 07, 2021, 04:09:07 PM
EZ added another month on their website today.  August. 2022.
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: Jeff on May 07, 2021, 04:09:45 PM
Quote from: Southside on May 07, 2021, 02:33:27 PM
Was there a bunch of recorded sawmilling information in pre-recorded history that has been lost or something?  :D
powder POST beetles.
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: customsawyer on May 08, 2021, 06:36:44 AM
It's interesting that with all the new mills out there, I still get customers that drive 3 hours or more to get green lumber.
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: Upstatewoodchuc on May 08, 2021, 07:13:42 AM
This thread hits close to home for sure. Im in the middle of reconstructing a timber frame house and was considering purchasing a mill. I've been chainsaw milling for the last 4 years and am very familiar with how painful it is, however when going to order a mill, regardless of manufacturer, I won't even see it until the fall when I have the home standing again. So now I plan to sub the board making out to a local sawyer and chainsaw mill the big timbers myself unfortunately. If only I had pulled the trigger in December when I was first looking....
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: B.C.C. Lapp on May 08, 2021, 07:50:46 AM
Quote from: Jeff on May 07, 2021, 04:09:45 PM
Quote from: Southside on May 07, 2021, 02:33:27 PM
Was there a bunch of recorded sawmilling information in pre-recorded history that has been lost or something?  :D
powder POST beetles.
You'll have that. :D
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: Sixacresand on May 08, 2021, 10:02:47 AM
It was almost two months to get my mill during the slow times.   Seems like quicker than a delivery of new blades, recently.  
Title: Re: What is driving sawmill purchase demand
Post by: DixieReb31 on May 08, 2021, 02:29:17 PM
I received my LT35HD on April 12th.  Last month.  I ordered it November 19th, 2020. They told me it would take 23 weeks.  It took 20.  Now, I think they said 55 weeks.