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Title: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on June 14, 2008, 10:44:50 PM

Today Tammy and I took a two or three hour break from picking up brush on our land to go for a quad ride and a hunt. A hunt for Pudding Stones. Something rather unique to Northern Michigan.  We had some pretty good luck. We found several average ones and a few good ones.  Here are a few pictures from our bounty.

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Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Dave Shepard on June 14, 2008, 10:52:19 PM
Who's the skinny guy with the dog?


Dave

Oh, what do you do with a pudding stone once you've captured it?
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: zopi on June 14, 2008, 10:58:51 PM

Oh, what do you do with a pudding stone once you've captured it?

Skin it and eat it...
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Dave Shepard on June 14, 2008, 11:02:47 PM
 ::)  :)


Dave
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Dodgy Loner on June 14, 2008, 11:13:47 PM
Cool.  What are the 'raisins' made of?  I wanted to be a geologist before I found out that trees were easier to find in South GA than rocks.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on June 14, 2008, 11:33:13 PM
Jasper and Quartz :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Dodgy Loner on June 14, 2008, 11:51:29 PM
Any chance I might be able to find one of those when I visit the U.P. after the Piggy Roast ???
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on June 15, 2008, 12:15:56 AM
I would say there is an excellent chance. :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Dodgy Loner on June 15, 2008, 12:30:58 AM
 8) 8) 8) I can't wait!!!
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: dewwood on June 15, 2008, 07:37:11 AM
Looking good Jeff, the stones too! :D :D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: isawlogs on June 15, 2008, 08:44:59 AM
 So ........... Ya collecting to make a fireplace . ???
 They look good . Real nice .    8)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on June 15, 2008, 10:30:01 AM
Yeah, jasper is a multi-colored (mottled-yellow-red-green) form of Chalcedony quartz. The reds in that stone of Jeff's are from the iron in the quartz and generally they call it "carnelian" chalcedony.  There are many forms of chalcedony quartz and are used in cameos. The top jasper is found in California, Arkansas and Texas. Banded colors form an "agate" form of chalcedony quartz and is found in many areas of the US.

No, I didn't know or have any recollection of the info above I had to look it up. Don't call me an expert.  :D

I have seen a lot of jasper in cameos though and I'm sure others have seen it also in cameos or just simply polished.  ;)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: leweee on June 15, 2008, 12:18:54 PM
So ........... Ya collecting to make a fireplace . ???
 They look good . Real nice .    8)

Come on Jeff...........now that you got dem, where are you pudding dem ???
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: sharp edge on June 15, 2008, 12:31:43 PM
Jeff
Looks like a cement truck emptied the rest of his load on your land. ::)

Very interesting, what is binding them together-- limestone? I will have to find some at the next P.R.

sharp E
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: isawlogs on June 15, 2008, 08:01:26 PM

 Anuder top secret mishun.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on June 15, 2008, 09:17:20 PM
no secret.  No real plans. Been struggling to get on line long enough to post today.  Tammy is back home and I'm still here piling brush. Pete will come get me this week.  I did go find  3 more pudding stones today for a break. :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: isawlogs on June 15, 2008, 09:31:20 PM

 I still beleive that they would make a great looking fire place  ;)

  We got power back last night , the crew left hre it was dark .. there where a bunch of trees on the line . One limb that was at least four inches across is almost burnt through . There was a lot of smoke and some flames before the breaker at the other end of the line cut the power off .
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on June 15, 2008, 09:46:41 PM
 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/pudding_stone_9.jpg)

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Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: WDH on June 15, 2008, 09:59:20 PM
Conglomerates?
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on June 16, 2008, 06:05:07 AM
Sure looks like it with those rounded quartz stones embedded into it. I would think it's bound by silicates and calcites. Got some HCL handy? ;D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Fla._Deadheader on June 16, 2008, 06:48:18 PM

 Why are those stumps so high  ??? ???
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: beenthere on June 16, 2008, 07:00:09 PM
That puddingstone is interesting material. Prowled around a bit, and find it is referred to as St. Joseph puddingstone in your neck of the woods.

Also,
http://toadisland.tripod.com/drummond/pudding.html

Is there more info about it, that you know of, Jeff (the high stumper)?  ;D ;D

Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on June 16, 2008, 07:11:55 PM
No puddin stone hunting today, just lots of clearing. Made some headway today. :)


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high stumps are easier to remove there wasthere... ;)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: isawlogs on June 16, 2008, 07:51:52 PM
 
  Harrold ,  those are for him to rest his derriere between cuttings  ;D Ya heard of " pull yourself a stump ... " He is taking it litteraly    ;)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on June 16, 2008, 08:19:27 PM
low stumps aint easy to hook a cable to and they aint easy to push against with a dozer or pull over with a hoe. Harold, I never dreamed I'd have to explain such a thing to you. ;)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: isawlogs on June 16, 2008, 08:32:47 PM

 Also makes counting the trees you cut much faster .
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Corley5 on June 29, 2008, 12:26:55 AM
You got some good ones  8) 8) 8)  I brought home a biggun from the Pigeon River SF the other day to add to the collection.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Fla._Deadheader on June 29, 2008, 07:56:19 AM

 I was taught, cut 'em low enough to drive over, and not snag taars, and they rot out faster. No need to have to push dirt to fill in the holes ???  Guess y'all like to do double-triple the work  ::) ::) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on June 29, 2008, 08:07:55 AM
I guess things are done differently in other places. Never seen a place yet where they build over top of stumps.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Reddog on June 29, 2008, 09:28:05 AM
I guess things are done differently in other places. Never seen a place yet where they build over top of stumps.

They don't have frost laws down south. Wait till he sees the holes you have to dig for foundations/footings. :D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: thecfarm on June 30, 2008, 07:28:17 AM
Building??? What are you building?? House-camp???
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on June 30, 2008, 08:14:11 AM
We're building a building site. :) No definite plans for the actual building yet but our dream has always been to live in the U.P.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Fla._Deadheader on June 30, 2008, 11:25:55 AM

 Guess y'all Northreners never heard of PILINGS for a deep solid base, for house support, or STILT Houses ???   ::) ;D ;D ;D

  Y'all GOTTA get out more.  ;D ;D 8) :D :D

  Google up "Stiltsville", in the Biscayne Bay.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on June 30, 2008, 12:32:06 PM
Sure we heard of pilings and piers. That's how the cabin is built, on concrete block piers built on poured concrete feet. We still removed the stumps under it as why would you want to have rotting vegetation and wood under your home to attract insects and termites and such? You don't let the wind and snow and animals under your homes either so they are enclosed regardless of the foundation for sanitation and heating purposes. So, in retaliation, No coon dogs underneath, and no bug eaten floors to fall on them.

I figured a New Jersey Boy would have that all figured out.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Fla._Deadheader on June 30, 2008, 01:34:39 PM

   :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SPIKER on July 03, 2008, 10:50:55 AM
nice looking stones there :)

we get conglomerates like that around here but more rare I guess.   also they may not be good where heat can get to them.  we (as kids) used to find them and use em as fire rings build fire then when good & hot toss them into water & watch em explode.  if there were already wet they often exploded when heating up ...   I have been collecting rocks for 3~5 years at my place to build outside BBQ use rocks for foundation & outer srfaces. will get a tile cutter and split a lot of the smaller fancy ones and maybe polish them as countertop :)   should be very nice if my back is ever fixed.  (been stuck flat on floor for week and half now.) :(
mark M
Title: CAPTURING A BIG elusive Michigan Pudding stone solo!
Post by: Jeff on July 22, 2008, 12:32:19 PM
The week I originally posted this, Tammy had spotted what she thought was a big pudding stone in the rock trail, but by the time she caught up with me and we went back to look, we could not find it. Only a small patch of stone appeared and it probably got covered with dust when we passed it. This last week while on a ride with my sister, I found it. I dug around it a little and saw it was probably bigger then I could handle.  The next morning I got up and announced that I was going to go get the rock. I was deemed crazy and touched and was told I was on my own.  Not nothing new. ;D

The following is a pictorial and videography of my catching up to and bringing the stone back, on my own. We are pretty certain that it weighs 1000 lbs+ 

I missed getting a picture of something other then in my mind, was the black bear that ran just in front of me on the trail as I set off to get the rock. That was just too Cool. Quite a surprise for him and me. :)

Getting the rock dug up was the first challenge, then out of the hole a bigger dilemma, then on to my little trailer another sort of challenge. I took pics on getting it out of the whole, and the videos are the attempts from failure to success on trying to get it on the trailer. :)

 

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=qc2j9M1LT58

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zhkaa67Dlcg

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Sfco6ZGYPTs

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GMUZapNeXGM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FjvKXKR2H4

Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: beenthere on July 22, 2008, 12:49:01 PM
This is why you were asking about mineral rights??   ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on July 22, 2008, 12:50:58 PM
No :D  Not even close. If you read the mineral rights thread I stated why I was asking. ;)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: sprucebunny on July 22, 2008, 12:54:05 PM
Nice rock, Jeff !! Good job  8)

I've done a little rock wrestling, myself  :D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Texas Ranger on July 22, 2008, 02:45:03 PM
If the real Jeff, not that light weight replica, had been there it would not have taken so long.  Take a look at the baggy britches that dude was waring, some of the real Jeff's pants, I betcha.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on July 22, 2008, 03:27:43 PM
 :D   I sure coulda used that extra 60 lbs of lead in my butt trying to pull the tongue of that trailer down. I've been paying for it ever since with some very strained muscles.  I unloaded the Rock at Lou's for him to admire. That way we can use the tractor to move it once we get a home of our own up there. I told him if we didnt ever move up there, that stone would stay with him as he's a puddin stone collector and admirer as well. It don't belong down here. It belongs in da U.P.  :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: logwalker on July 22, 2008, 04:03:45 PM
Is that the biggest you have found to date. That thing is huge!!
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on July 22, 2008, 06:05:58 PM
Actually, no its not the biggest by far, I know where there is a bigger one that is awesome but it would take a dozer to move it.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Fla._Deadheader on July 22, 2008, 06:30:14 PM

 Maybe you mentioned it before, or, it's a secret  ???, but, what can you do with those rocks, now that you have them ???  Could you turn them into flooring or counter tops, or sumpin ???
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on July 22, 2008, 07:02:03 PM
I can trade them for smoked suckers, wampum and various other colored beads.  :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Reddog on July 22, 2008, 07:38:23 PM
Or just look at them all pretty like in the yard. :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on July 22, 2008, 08:04:20 PM
Or just look at them all pretty like in the yard. :)

That's what we do.  :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Corley5 on July 22, 2008, 10:12:23 PM
Nice one 8)  8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: WDH on July 22, 2008, 11:16:19 PM
You lasso poorly............
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on July 23, 2008, 05:40:58 AM
If I knew someone with stone cutting equipment, I'd slice off a table slab or maybe some step stones for the back yard and polish them up. A lot of work and probably costly though. That quartz is very hard as you know.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: thecfarm on July 23, 2008, 07:22:25 AM
I have dug out 100's of rocks.Moved stonewalls.I grow all sorts of sizes and shapes here on The C Farm,but none that look like that.Interesting to see a rock that looks pretty.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: OneWithWood on July 23, 2008, 08:42:00 AM
That would look nice all cleaned up at the beginning of the drive t your new home  :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on July 23, 2008, 09:49:26 AM
Lou tells me you can bleach them and power wash to really improve the looks.  Pete says he was in a rock shop where they get a buck a pound for pudding stones.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Roxie on July 23, 2008, 03:11:59 PM
                                       YOOPER GAZETTE

     Area police are urging residents to use caution along the foot paths of the Upper Peninsula.  It appears that an unknown actor is causing large craters to mar the walking trails, creating a hazard for pedestrians and wild life alike.  Recently police found a 200 pound black bear trapped in a crater surrounded by strange scuff marks.  A hiker has provided a description of a man seen laying across his trailer hitch nearby.  The man is described as a tall, thin, tan individual with very, very baggy pants and black galoshes. 
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Corley5 on July 23, 2008, 03:18:12 PM
Pressure washing goes a long ways especially towards removing centuries of Lake Huron algae  ;) ;D :-X
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on July 23, 2008, 04:15:48 PM
                                       YOOPER GAZETTE
 The man is described as a tall, thin, tan individual with very, very baggy pants and black galoshes. 


Hugs to Roxie! I aint been called thin in years!   :-*
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: metalspinner on July 23, 2008, 05:02:36 PM
I'm wondering if that Logrite arch of your's could be put to good use on your rock hunts.  If the strap is wrapped and tied off just right, you may be able lift the rock just fine. ???
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: WDH on July 23, 2008, 10:36:23 PM
                                       YOOPER GAZETTE

     A hiker has provided a description of a man seen laying across his trailer hitch nearby. 

That is good! 
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Burlkraft on July 24, 2008, 11:20:15 AM
Roxie,

Was that you I saw on Last Comic Standing  ???  ???   :D  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Tom on July 24, 2008, 06:04:34 PM
Pudding Stones are a lot smarter than I thought they would be.
Title: Pudding Stone Country
Post by: Jeff on August 31, 2008, 07:01:57 PM
 

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Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Don K on August 31, 2008, 07:40:35 PM
Nice open woods and I would love to have a load of them stones.

Don
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: isawlogs on August 31, 2008, 08:30:58 PM
 
  Had I known 'bout them there stones I wuld of been on the look out for one 'bout six to ten inches in size for the fish tank . Them are nice stones .  :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Corley5 on August 31, 2008, 08:34:41 PM
Nice ones  8) 8)  You're hooked  ;D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SPIKER on August 31, 2008, 08:48:20 PM
I hadn't checked into this post in awhile so I had to stop in & catch up.  seems like loading that big one was fun it fought back quite well but ya got the best of it...  seems hunting pudding stone is harder than it sounds  :D ::)   I have had to pull bigger rocks than that out of my 4+ foot deep conduit trench (ya I had my tractor back hoe for help though :))  I'll have to post some pics of the rock pile I have down by the creek.  I think I might have one or two in the gallery?  I know I have them on --Photos MUST be in the Forestry Forum gallery!!!!!-- but not sure if I shrunk any down for here?

anyhow nice job. seems like similar problems in the videos that I have with my short coupled dump wagon I built for hauling gravel out of the creek.  I needed it short so I can maneuver it easily in the woos/creek so I put the wheels back as fas as I could but with is being SHORT it still is a pain a lot of time if you fill it too far back it will tip up and dump all it's load to the back of the thing causing a real pain to get it back setting on the front.  I have to disconnect it from the tractor to load up gravel out of the creek and into the dump trailer.  worst is once it is loaded full and going to hook back up I've 3 or 4 times now been off the ball a bit and flipped the dang thing up!  have to then push it back down with the tractor & shovel the gravel back to the front and loose about 1/2 load onto the ground behind the trailer.  >:( :-[


I have some big granite boulders that are probably in the 2 ton range put of the creek bed now setting waiting for/to be come seating around the fire pit and have 5 or 6 already up by one fire pit.   I'm planning on a big BBQ with seating up by the barn some day.  I have a NICE pile already but have been having bad back problems.  I had operation 4 weeks back almost now and are doing somewhat better but need 3 more weeks recoup time and probably still can't wrangle any more rocks like I did back then...

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had to find these & mod them for FF gallery..

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Brit&Bren & tazzy on some of the rocks.  they are nicer than PIC shows.
rock pile is about 40 feet from this
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mark M

Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on August 31, 2008, 09:00:46 PM
The trailer actually works pretty good, if the load is even. When its 1000 lbs on the very back, its a problem. :)

Here are some shots of that same woods. It is a beautiful woods. I love being in it. This is a hardwood ridge that drops off into lowland cedar. My Sister Leenda got a bear permit this year and we set up a bait station there. There is a ground blind you see in the background that Lou gave me a key for. This is a property that Lou looks after, and adjacent to some of his up north of Carlton Lake.  I chopped out the stump enough that we got awhole bucket of bread and jello in it then crammed a big rock in the top. The stump is right on the edge of the drop to the swamp. Looks like prime bear territory.

I'm hoping that this stump that this rotting stump has been leveled when we go up to bait again this next week. We have a bear coming in to the cabin for the first time in 3 years. Its a little one though. Probably Mama just evicted him (or her). We have heard it balling in the woods. Its only about 120-140 lbs and is on our safe list. We'll keep feeding it and try to keep it around as it may draw in a shooter, but were being real careful as this one seems to have little fear. We've taken to arming ourselves when we are out and about now.

 I'll be hauling my mill up to cut tamarack for building a fence to keep out the quads that tore up my food plot last week. >:(

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Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Corley5 on August 31, 2008, 09:10:30 PM
When's the season on quads open in Da UP  ???
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on August 31, 2008, 09:16:51 PM
First time I see one on that food plot. 

I've got my posts put in last week. I'm glad we came home so my post hole digging blisters could heal up. :D

 

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Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: brdmkr on August 31, 2008, 09:29:16 PM
You know, I remember reading about these pudding stones when Jeff first posted.  I looked up on my bookshelf last week and lo and behold, I have a pudding stone on my bookshelf!  I am embarrassed to say that I don't even know where it came from or who gave it to me.  I may have even found it myself.  I'll try to remember to take pics, but given I don't remember where it came from........
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on August 31, 2008, 10:26:07 PM
I'd like more info on that book! I'd like to see if I can find it on line. :)


Here are some photos of the little bear I mentioned from the trail cam. I have some on the regular camera as he came out behind the cabin, but it was dark enough they didnt turn out well.
  I've named him (or her)  Junior.



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Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on October 04, 2008, 08:14:36 PM
Stacy came up this week to get me and take me home tomorrow morning. Today we went puddin stone hunting and did really well, but before I say anything about that, I gotta do a little catchin up. Burlkraft came up a couple weeks ago and one of the things he was to do while he was here, was to get Jill a pudding stone for her new garden. We didn't disappoint her. We found a pair of really good ones. Ol' Steve it turns out is a pretty good pudding stone finder as well. I won't tell you his new nickname cause if I did I'd have to tell ya mine. :D :-X :D

 

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/pudding_stone_13.jpg)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/pudding_stone_12.jpg)


Today Stacy and I found a real good patch of stones but only brought 4 back. The most interesting find though was not a pudding stone, but a chunk of what I think is fossilized coral that was pushed up out of thr ground by a Sugar Maple.(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/fossil.jpg)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/fossil_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Radar67 on October 04, 2008, 08:21:07 PM
So, which one of you is Puddin' Head?  :D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on October 04, 2008, 08:23:02 PM
Nice try. ;)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Rocky_J on October 04, 2008, 08:29:08 PM
Looks more like honeycomb, Jeff.  ???
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on October 04, 2008, 09:59:11 PM
I think it looks like honeycomb too, but I have been told that these are coral formation from an ancient sea. This area is all limestone and dolomite which is also a by-product of the same ancient seas. In the past I have found smaller bits of this coral but this is by fare the largest specimen I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Don P on October 05, 2008, 07:09:36 AM
That is a neat find.
I've been reading "The Map That Changed the World", it's about the man that first figured out the geology beneath our feet. The colorings and alot of the naming we use on todays maps is from him. He was the first person to realize he could identify and order the different rocks according to the fossils they contained. His original focus was figuring out where coal would be. He knew that if he saw certain rocks he was above or below the coal, and about how far. William "Strata" Smith later knew and drew every strata in England, about 200 years ago.  It's had me googling the geoligic maps for my area. This is a quick google for your area,
http://www.dnr.state.mi.us/spatialdatalibrary/PDF_Maps/Geology/Bedrock_Geology_Map.pdf
http://www.ncrs.fs.fed.us/gla/geology/images/up-quat.gif
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on October 05, 2008, 07:11:59 AM
Chip a spot off with a hammer and pulverize it a bit. Drop a bit of pickling vinegar (18 %) on it and see what happens.  ;D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Don P on October 05, 2008, 07:26:05 AM
SD, I have muriatic acid, dilute hydrochloric. How do the different rocks react, say the difference between limestone and dolomite, or others ???

check out the coral fossil on the lower right in this link;
http://www.paleoportal.org/index.php?globalnav=time_space&sectionnav=period_map&period_id=13

My Aunt's hired man that has been on the farm since before I was born is named Puddin. He cooks one fine pig  :).
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Tom on October 05, 2008, 09:40:07 AM
That's pretty cool.  Florida hasn't much from the early days to show.  :-\
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on October 05, 2008, 11:43:23 AM
The one from Indiana looks a lot light honeycomb to.

Jeff's coral was rugose coral from the carboniferous age. Just click the carboniferous tab to the right and flip through the thumbnails in the bottom right. You'll see a chunk just like his. Dilute HCL is much better than vinegar for detecting carbonates.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Don P on October 05, 2008, 01:08:14 PM
With glaciers it could well be. It looks like the exposed rock up there is mostly from the Silurian age. There were some close looking matches if you click on the fossil gallery tab then the Silurian gallery, on page 2 are some corals.

The early ages were named after ancient Celtic tribes from my understanding.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on October 05, 2008, 03:21:15 PM
I believe it to be of the Favosites from the Silurian period LINK (http://www.paleoportal.org/index.php?globalnav=fossil_gallery&sectionnav=detail&submission_id=818&taxon_id=&state_id=&period_id=14&assemblage_id=&last_section=search)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on October 05, 2008, 04:01:48 PM
Could be to Jeff, but those rocks where more to the southern border of Michigan, while the Carboniferous was in most of Michigan except the northwestern border of Michigan if you look at the map. I figured if you where up around the your woodlot region it would be Carboniferous.  ;)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on October 05, 2008, 04:17:14 PM
The only report I have for New Brunswick is of the Quaternary period, that's the glaciation age. Most those other periods have inclusions from the Paleozoic era, such as Devonian, Ordovician and Silurian, which are of course much older. Silurian being the closest nearby. You only see those old rocks here on exposures from glaciation or mineral drilling/mining, road construction.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Don P on October 05, 2008, 04:35:28 PM
That's the coral it looked like to me too. I was looking through some of the other galleries on that break and when I walked outside past my "neat rocks" on the porch I found out one was a stromatolite from the pre cambrian age. Now if I could just remember where I picked it up from  :D

I also poured muriatic acid (that's the acid masons use to clean up their work) on several things. First I poured it on some old 1800's mortar, that stuff is nothing but burnt lime and sand. It instantly foamed and kicked up a big head. Next I poured it on what I would call a calcerous shale, it formed a small head and boiled pretty good. Then I poured it on some hard blue dolomite that's almost marble IMO. It hissed but didn't form a head, just a few bubbles. Last I poured it on some of our gneiss, it didn't seem to care. There were a few bubbles where it hit some soil was all. So it tells if the rock is a carbonate and how metamorphosed it is?

They were building a fancy hotel when I was young. A masons helper was told to clean up the new italian marble floor. He used muriatic acid on the polished marble. I think he was job hunting the next week  :D.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on October 05, 2008, 04:46:27 PM
As far as I know Don, it's just a test for carbonates. We used it when digging soil pits to test "parent material". I'm not sure about differentiating by degree of bubble and fizz. :D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on October 05, 2008, 04:51:44 PM
I have some fossils of shellfish and mud worms somewhere in the gallery. I never did age it. It was turned up pretty close to the surface as a result of dozing wind rows for tree planting. The Tobique River watershed from whence it came (River Don), has been known as an area of inland sea. I think most of NB was submerged at one time. The soil water here is full of carbonate as is the parent rock.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on October 05, 2008, 04:56:04 PM
Just a quick glance at the map shows it Devonian up the head of the Tobique. It comes out of hilly country, I wouldn't really call them mountains. I seen mountains. ;)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on October 05, 2008, 05:00:58 PM
Oh, and don't take me as no geology expert. Just hobbyist, but i have studied it at some length. So I ain't green either.  ;)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on October 08, 2008, 10:51:58 PM
 
Here is another stone that I found whilst Puddin Stone Huntin.  I was keeping it at the cabin until it got evicted by my Seester.  We were sitting at breakfast and the stone was at the end of the table. I said hey, she says, what?  I said, I think l that rock just pulsated. It weirded her out so bad she made me take it out of the cabin. The next morning she got up and it was sitting in her chair and I denied putting it there, so, home it came. ;D :D 

  I should have took a picture of it wet. The lines in it are then quite red and the background color kinda like the grey that old meat can turn.  ;D



(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/heart_stone_2.jpg)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/heart_stone_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Weekend_Sawyer on October 09, 2008, 07:37:40 AM

 I am a proud owner of a Puddin Stone. When we visited this summer I gave Jeff one of the Worlds smallest Loon decoys and Jeff felt bad about not havin the time to go shopping to get me something nice, so he kicks a rock out of the ground and gives it to me telling of the magical powers of the rock. Seems if you have a problem with someone you touch the stone to their head. The bigger the problem the harder you press the stone, you may have to start with the stone behind your own head and then bring it around to their head!

Jon
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: WDH on October 09, 2008, 07:59:29 AM
Boss,

That looks like a neolithic brain :).
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Tom on October 09, 2008, 09:20:40 AM
Looks like a nail puller laying there too.  ;D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on October 09, 2008, 09:37:13 AM
I'm wondering what the red mineral is in that stone and the conditions that allowed it to run stringy all through it as it cooled.  8)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on October 09, 2008, 09:51:00 AM
Looks like a nail puller laying there too.  ;D

It is.  :)  I had two and that one is for Lou.

I'm wondering what the red mineral is in that stone and the conditions that allowed it to run stringy all through it as it cooled.  8)

Me too. I've never saw another rock like it.

I just love going back and looking for pudding stones. Finding the stones is secondary to just being out there and seeing the things there are to see.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: OneWithWood on October 09, 2008, 09:58:23 AM
Looks like a heart of stone to me.

I hear Mick Jagger singing an ole blues standard in the backgorund. . .
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on October 09, 2008, 11:41:13 AM
Here is another odd find.
Looks just like a nondescript rock.
(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/rock.jpg)

Until ya turn it over.
(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/rock_2.jpg)


The bottom is perfectly flat, like the rock sat in a puddle of liquid rock of another type.




 
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on October 09, 2008, 11:59:45 AM
Yup, or a strata of gray sandstone formed over the top, glacier broke it away and weathered it a bit. The lighter being harder, did not get rounded on the surface at the same rate as the darker layer. All kinds of mysteries give way to theories about the way things are.  ;D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Weekend_Sawyer on October 09, 2008, 12:15:26 PM

 Looks like a baked potato stone... mmmmmmm!
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: pigman on October 09, 2008, 12:53:01 PM
I tried one of those nail pullers once. It hurt so bad that I went back to using nail clippers. ;)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Weekend_Sawyer on October 09, 2008, 02:02:00 PM

 Yup, that's funny! :D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on October 09, 2008, 10:44:19 PM
Ya never know what ya might find in the puddin stone woods.  This old girl is 3.1 miles from the main road. Probably at least that far as the crow flies from any residence.  It sits back on the edge of an abandoned camp.

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/old_jeep.jpg)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Paul_H on October 09, 2008, 10:57:26 PM
I'll take it!! 8)
It appears to be in good shape.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on October 09, 2008, 11:00:36 PM
I think Lou might have the ability to claim it. I've been admiring it. The engine is in it, but the insides are pretty rough. I'll take more pics if I get back there this weekend.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Weekend_Sawyer on October 10, 2008, 06:47:43 AM

 I hope you get it Jeff, that looks like a good project truck.
JOn
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Corley5 on October 10, 2008, 07:53:15 AM
The engine still has oil in it  ;) :)  We all need more projects don't we  ??? ;D :) :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: beenthere on October 10, 2008, 10:00:48 AM
Me thinks Jeff already has a project truck. ;D ;D ;D

Maybe Lou is looking for one? :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on October 12, 2008, 09:52:29 PM
October Puddin woods,

 

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/pudding_stone_16.jpg)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/pudding_stone_15.jpg)

Puttin some puddins in place. :)

 

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/pudding_stone_14.jpg)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/pudding_stone_17.jpg)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/pudding_stone_18.jpg)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/pudding_stone_19.jpg)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Texas Ranger on October 12, 2008, 10:33:51 PM
DanG, you bury an elephant in that grave? ::)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Texas Ranger on October 12, 2008, 10:34:57 PM
Oh yeah, great shot of  your woods.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: WDH on October 12, 2008, 11:19:56 PM
Beautiful puddin woods.  Those are the nicest puddin trees that I have ever seen ;D.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on October 13, 2008, 05:12:12 AM
Nice rock garden. By the looks of the forest floor I am led to believe those stones came from elsewhere. ;D Nice sugar maple stand, look at all the new seedlings. ;D Actually, they may not be so new, could be 10 years old. ;) Where are all the undergrowth shrubs? Too park like. :D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on October 13, 2008, 07:33:37 AM
Most of the stones come from right there. Its part of a hardwood ridge that runs several miles. There is no brush because there is no light. That woods has a full canopy. The stones are everywhere underfoot with only a small area exposed. You simply walk around until you find a puddin, or other stone to your liking.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on October 13, 2008, 08:51:43 AM
That still don't explain it because there are shade tolerant shrubs that will grow up in the densest of woods. Also, the floor didn't look rough enough to be stony. I seen stony woods and there are lots of moss covered hard mounds on top. Maybe the seedlings cover up the stones. ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on October 13, 2008, 04:35:10 PM
this is a natural area and the seedlings to hide the stones. You cant dig in the ground with a shovel. Its all stone and gravel.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Burlkraft on October 14, 2008, 09:34:15 AM
That maple woods is one of the most beautiful that I have ever seen.  ;D  ;D  ;D

Besides the fact that it holds a rich deposit of 'puddin stones the floor being covered with seedlings and the full canopy almost give it that jungle feel  ;)  ;)  ;)

I wish I could see it now when it's in full color. I'm sure that pictures just can's do it justice  :)  :)  :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on October 14, 2008, 12:00:56 PM
Ah, now I have the full view.  :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on October 27, 2008, 08:30:03 PM
I have always gotten away with poo-pooing sweetest day. That it's just a hallmark holiday based on nothing. This year I was on my way up to bear hunt that day when Tammy called me to tell me she had bought me a wooden rose for sweetest day. I said, What the heck is sweetest day?"   She allowed me to get away with it again.

When we got up north I took a bike ride to do just a short bit of pudding stone hunting. I only had about an hour before we wanted to go out and sit in the bear blind. I didnt go ti my usual haunt, but a closer unexplored site. I spent almost all my allotted time in the woods and didnt find anything so decided to give up and head for the bike and back to the cabin. As I stepped out of the wood edge and on to the rocky trail, I looked down and there it was. One step from the bike staring back up at me. I picked it up and stashed it until I could give it to Tammy when I got home.

I guess this means from now on, I have to believe that yes, there is a sweetest day.  :)

 

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/pudding_heart.jpg)

Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Warbird on October 27, 2008, 08:52:49 PM
What is "sweetest day"?  Is that a different name for Valentine's Day?   smiley_headscratch
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: beenthere on October 27, 2008, 10:16:53 PM
What's in the photo? ???

A sweetness? ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on October 27, 2008, 10:26:15 PM
What's in the photo? ???

A sweetness? ;D ;D

If yer seriously asking, its a fist size pudding stone with a red jasper stone embedded in it that sort of resembles an elongated heart. :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: isawlogs on October 27, 2008, 11:07:27 PM

 Nice way of gainning points  ;D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: thecfarm on October 28, 2008, 07:01:15 AM
Never knew what sweetest day was.First time I have ever heard of it.It never made it this far north.  :D
You sure do have some pretty rocks up your way.All I have are ugly ones on my land.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: DanG on October 28, 2008, 12:54:44 PM
We don't have no rock around here, but I do have some bricks from the Hatfieldian and McCoyan ages. ::)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Radar67 on October 28, 2008, 01:30:12 PM
You got you some mighty fine bricks there DanG. Make sure you hold on to em for prosperity sake.  ;)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on October 28, 2008, 03:33:16 PM
There now. All you need is a little cement, a few shovel fulls of yard sand, a wheel barrel, water and a shovel and mix up yourself some calcified sandstone of the Dangnabbit age. No radiometric dating required. ;D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on May 07, 2009, 06:57:05 PM
While I've been up here on my property working and planting and planting trees, I've been taking time to hunt up some pudding stones too. Here are the two smallest ones I have kept. They are a little bigger then a softball and are beeootiful.  :)
 

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2/may-09-pudding-1.jpg)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2/may-09-pudding-2.jpg)

I've brought about a dozen back to the cabin. About half were all I wanted to handle at around basketball size.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: WDH on May 07, 2009, 10:03:23 PM
Thank the glaciers ;D.

Very nice!
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: beenthere on May 07, 2009, 10:03:32 PM
Jeff
We understand, after watching the tree hugger video.  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on May 07, 2009, 10:23:50 PM
I might have sounded a bit like em after I picked up the biggest one and carried it out to the trail the bike was on.
I gotta find a way to put handles on em.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Don K on May 07, 2009, 10:30:29 PM
Make you a little high wheel cart with a long handle that you can throw on the back of the ATV. You could have a two piece handle that goes toether with wingnuts. Two of those back wheels off a high wheel mower would work just dandy. You could flag the rocks as you find them then go back with your trailer and get them. You hunt puddin stones like I hunt litard knots. ;D

Don
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on May 08, 2009, 05:20:14 AM
I'm picturing a smaller size stone, maybe golf ball sized, and put into a polisher. Maybe even as large as a tennis ball, depending on the size of the colored crystals so as to get a lot of color in the polished stone. ;D

I'm also wondering what a diamond cutting wheel could do on very large stones, to be cut for counter top or for around a fireplace, but not where heat is going to be extreme.

Lots of dreaming. ;)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Burlkraft on May 08, 2009, 07:23:47 AM
'em er some nice ones   8)  8)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: OneWithWood on May 08, 2009, 08:58:31 AM
I think I am seeing inclusions of jasper, quartz and perhaps onyx.  What else is likely to be in one of these multi-jeweled stones?
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: ADAMINMO on May 08, 2009, 10:15:39 AM
Them are cool ... My wife would love one of those. My mom would love one more because she is a rock collector. She could walk a creek bank for hours and find some pretty neet rocks. Thats cool.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: isawlogs on May 08, 2009, 11:05:38 AM

 Yep them is real nice looking rocks . I could see one of them inmy aquarium .   ;)     8) 8)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on May 08, 2009, 07:28:33 PM
Marcel, I'll have a dandy waiting for you to pick up at the pigroast. :)

I think the Ontario Pudding Stones, of which these are, are made up primarily of quartz and Jasper. There are lots of colors of Jasper including variegated versions as well.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on May 09, 2009, 04:55:27 AM
Probably even Agate, which is another interesting Chalcedony, in which Jasper is also grouped. They are other forms of silicates as is quartz.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on December 03, 2009, 06:28:01 PM
A couple of my latest finds.   

 

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC01708.JPG)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC01709.JPG)

Yesterday I decided I would walk around the yard and count just the pudding stones I have put in and around the flower gardens and yard. I figured I had 30 or better.  I misjudged.  Turns out I had 115.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: WDH on December 03, 2009, 06:57:43 PM
Maybe you should develop a market in stones  ???.  And, I am not talking about turkeys or the various osyters  :).
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on December 03, 2009, 06:59:01 PM
I've got an item in the wanted forum right now because I  am thinking the same thing. These stones are beautiful when sliced. They could be used for all kinds of things.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: WDH on December 03, 2009, 07:00:14 PM
Boss, I think that you are on to something.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on December 03, 2009, 07:22:07 PM
If you could make some counter tops from slices, it sure would be hard stuff. Even an inlay of a smaller slice in a coffee table.  8)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Weekend_Sawyer on December 03, 2009, 08:07:30 PM
I saw a floor that used sliced stones like tilework, looked great.

Jon
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Dave Shepard on December 03, 2009, 10:04:24 PM
There is a house about 7 miles from me that has a tiled floor from rocks found on site. When they sliced them up they found fossilized ferns and other plants in them. :o 8) We have a quarry at work, and we make marble floor tiles.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: isawlogs on December 03, 2009, 11:16:12 PM
So what kind of saw does one use to cut a stone the size of those puddin' stones ???
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SPIKER on December 04, 2009, 04:48:38 PM

Yesterday I decided I would walk around the yard and count just the pudding stones I have put in and around the flower gardens and yard. I figured I had 30 or better.  I misjudged.  Turns out I had 115.

HEY looks like you are getting greedy!, better start sharing :) ;) 8)

ME FIRST! 8)

Mark
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: isawlogs on December 04, 2009, 04:58:25 PM

 Spiker .. ya can't be first in line .    smiley_smug01
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Phantom9 on January 01, 2010, 02:26:18 PM
Hi I am new and excited to join. Im from northern michigan and also have a vast stone collection.  I cut pudding stones all the time, I sell them at craft shows for around 15 bucks a tile. I also invented a leter holder for nature lovers. I get pics asap.  Very Very nice stones jeff.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on January 01, 2010, 03:01:27 PM
Welcome to the Forestry Forum.  Maybe I can get some hints from you on how to go about cutting some of my stones? You didn't happen to do a craft show lately in either Cedarville or Pickford did you? Around deer season? Tammy bought a small slab of pudding stone one of those places to bring back to deer camp to show me.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on January 01, 2010, 04:23:05 PM
Here is one I have been carrying around in my pocket since last fall. It is one of only two I have ever found with black substrate. I'm looking for it's mama.  ;D   I found this one in my driveway in da U.P. Its only about an inch and a half in diameter at its widest point

 

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/black_pudding_stone.jpg)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Tom on January 01, 2010, 04:27:43 PM
A small hole drilled in the thin corner would make that a mighty interesting keychain fob.
Dad would have called that a Sex Stone.  :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 01, 2010, 05:57:53 PM
Which sex is it Tom?

:D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: WDH on January 01, 2010, 06:41:34 PM
I don't think that it is Sharon  :).
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Phantom9 on January 01, 2010, 06:43:54 PM
Its easy to cut stone. I use a 13hp honda spinning a 24" super diamond blade.  We recently supplied over 300 feet of 7/8 inch tile stone for a house in harbor springs. I try to get pics of that too. That rock looks like Gowganda.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Phantom9 on January 24, 2010, 12:59:21 PM
check out my face book for some stone crafts I made.  stonestunning@hotmail.com
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: jamesamd on January 26, 2010, 10:12:58 PM
Excellent thread,very interesting.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: davidlarson on January 30, 2010, 10:20:32 PM
My late brother-in-law loved the U.P., so after he died we made a family pilgrimage to the places he used to visit.  While we were there I found some attractive stones on the shore of Lake Superior which I brought home and have kept.  After reading this thread, I now realize they are Pudding Stones.  What an interesting connection!
David L.
Title: Meet Little Puddin.
Post by: Jeff on April 28, 2010, 11:04:07 PM
Below is a photo of my Pudding Stone apprentice. I call him "Little Puddin"  :)  He's doing very well at finding good ones but I've been having a bit of trouble getting him up out of the holes he makes after digging up the stones. 

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/puddin_steve.jpg)

The photo below are some of the stones I brought home last week. The one stone is a real find. Not the normal Ontario Jasper Conglomerates we find, but a different type of conglomerate all together. Little Pudding and I went out I think 3 times on hunts last week but had to call it quits after my Honda quit on us.

 

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/puddin_new_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on April 29, 2010, 03:46:24 AM
Jeff, are you going to slab any for polished table top?  That quartz will be hard to polish won't it? ;D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: WDH on April 29, 2010, 10:44:22 AM
"Little Puddin'"?  How about "Big Puddin'"  :D.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on April 29, 2010, 10:57:09 AM
That's what he's been calling me for a couple years. That's why he has to be Little Puddin. :D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: OneWithWood on April 29, 2010, 11:15:37 AM
Looks like a petrified beaver there in front of Lil' Puddin...
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: puddinhead on May 08, 2010, 02:39:06 PM
Good day everyone I was just on the net looking around for some pretty rocks for my wifes indoor garden since I can,t afford the ones for her finger I went on the internet looking for porphyry cobble and puddin stone and came across this website and wow was I impressed with the findings some of you guys have found Down here in the Niagara peninsula we don,t have anything like that puddingstone you guys are showing I understand that Michigan and Ohio are the places for that material So just out of curiousity and the ever lasting relationship with my wife does anybody have any puddinstone or porphyry they would like to part with the pieces don,t have to be big just maybe from 6x3x3 to 8x4x4 any help I can get is much appreciated Iam willing to pay for it Thanks everyone

PUDDINHEAD 
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on May 08, 2010, 02:44:26 PM
Pudding Head, there are several dealers on ebay that sell pudding stones and pudding stone slabs. Some are quite reasonable while others are not.


I saw a dealer up north that gets two dollars a pound for the raw stones over 10 lbs and 5 dollars a lb for stones under 10 lbs, and 10 dollars a lb for stones under 3 lbs . I could probably be convinced to sell for that.

Shipping pudding stones is what the real killer is on trying to sell them. 
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: puddinhead on May 08, 2010, 03:40:47 PM
Thank Jeff could you send me some pics of pieces you would consider selling you can send the pics to my email address thehawks09@hotmail.com



                                               PuDdInHeAd
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on May 08, 2010, 06:26:01 PM
Did you try ebay first?  I'm afraid the stones I would be willing to sell might not be as good as you want to buy.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: puddinhead on May 08, 2010, 10:58:29 PM
Hey Jeff yes I did there are only a couple pieces on there now. But I,ll keep watching by the way you stone looked pretty good to me but if I get stuck I,ll try you again if you don,t mind thanks for the help

pUdDiNhEaD
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Burlkraft on May 09, 2010, 09:04:25 AM
pUdDiNhEaD

I watched one o them B movies and the character in there was punkinhead and his name was signed just like that!  ;D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on May 09, 2010, 12:08:56 PM
Man, these things seem to find me. I was just outside picking up dog toys so I could mow, and this little beauty was under a frisbee. :D

 

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/pud.jpg)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: stonebroke on May 09, 2010, 12:13:55 PM
Does that mean you are a puddingstone magnet?

Stonebroke
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Mooseherder on May 09, 2010, 12:21:39 PM
Icy put the Frisbee on top of it for you. :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: puddinhead on May 09, 2010, 01:42:28 PM
Hey Jeff you ever find another stone that has spots on it like the puddin stone but the host stone is black or dark grey with yellow or cream spots it is from your way as well let me know thanks



                                     pUdDiNhEaD
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on May 09, 2010, 01:43:29 PM
Have you seen an example of that some where?
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: puddinhead on May 09, 2010, 03:49:27 PM
hey Jeff yes I  have I tried to post a picture but it would not work for me The person who had the pieces on a blog said she found them along and in rivers She also was from Michigan Icant even find the blog now to direct you there sorry


                                          PuDdInGhEaD
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: puddinhead on May 15, 2010, 08:46:59 PM
Hey Jeff how big is that puddinstone that is mostly red and would you consider selling that piece   PLEASE


                                PuDdInHeAd
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on May 15, 2010, 09:04:35 PM
Not sure which one you mean.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on May 16, 2010, 04:08:36 AM
:D :D So many to choose from.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: puddinhead on May 17, 2010, 08:45:14 AM
Hi Jeff the piece Iam talking about is on pg 7 reply 139 top picture let me know please I   :)should never have let my wife seen this stuff



                            PuDdInG hEaD
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on May 17, 2010, 08:53:29 AM
Oh boy, That one. And the red is what I consider rare. That one is one of my favorites as well as my wife's as well. I'll post a picture in a minute of where it sits. You would have to make me a pretty special offer to get me to part with that one.  You can send me a PM.  I'll not say a price, you make me an offer and I'll let that offer tell me on whether you want it more then I want to keep it.  While you think about it, I'll go get a picture of it where it is, and get some measurements.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on May 17, 2010, 09:09:41 AM
I ran out and measured it and took the bathroom scale out and weighed an it.  It is around 12 inches long and it weighs between 38 and 39 lbs.  It has been living underneath a flowering crab tree in a raised berm area at the entrance to our home since I brought it home form the U.P.. It gets looked at every time we go in or out of the house.

Tammy just came in from driving school bus this morning and I asked her about it.  She said that its going to take a crazy offer because she really likes this one.

 

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC01991.JPG)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC01992.JPG)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC01993.JPG)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC01994.JPG)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: metalspinner on May 17, 2010, 11:12:31 AM
Wow! :o   That's bigger than it looks in the earlier picture.  The layer running through the middle really is neat. :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SPIKER on May 17, 2010, 05:58:11 PM
Ya the early pic looks like it is softball fist sized stone. not that football sized thing!   that would make some nice inlays I'm sure with that black volcanic line in it, (least I would think it was from a volcano or good sized flood anyhow.)   I have some Canadian Granite on my place that is heavy striated red,black red black changes colors probably 20 times each about a 1" wide bands.  shipping might be killer as the thing is in 3 parts and probably 1500 to 3500 lbs each!   It is down in a wash on my place out of reach of tractor directly.   One day I plan on pulling the chunks and making something ?!?!?! 


Mark M
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on May 17, 2010, 06:07:10 PM
As it turns out, this one fits exactly in a large flat rate box and will ship anywhere in the U.S. for 14.50

I imagine all of these stones, or at least the most of them, are bigger then they look.  Some are all I can do to heft to the tailgate of the truck, and a few took two of us.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on May 23, 2010, 12:17:18 PM
This last week I went up north to try and kill off some canary grass and do some other chores. At the end of day one I told Pete I was going for a quick bike ride before supper. He said "Ya got about an hour"

Well, I took off and stopped at the area where Burlkraft and I had been looking for stones last month. We covered this area pretty good, but its not as far back as some other areas I go, and I was reaaly just out to enjoy the remains of the day.  I walked into the woods at the exact same place we parked the last time.  I walked straight in, and wasn't in there for any more then two minutes when I walked right into a large very nice stone that had split down the middle and was embedded in the ground with both faces showing. We had been all over this area and I swear that rock was not there before.    I called Steve and told him, and he said the Puddin Stone Fairy must put them out for there for me.  :D

These were heavy brutes, but some how I got one loaded and was back to the cabin a full 15 minutes before supper.  I went out and got the other the next morning.  The photos do them no justice what so ever as they are full of quartz that is not showing up in the pictures.  The last picture is another Rock I found. I dont know whatit is, but its awesome looking and very blue-green. Blue beyond what the photo shows

 

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC01996.JPG)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02004.JPG)

 

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC01997.jpg)

Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: WDH on May 23, 2010, 03:09:20 PM
You definitely have the touch.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on May 23, 2010, 04:54:16 PM
Some day I sure would like to see one sliced and polished for a table/counter top.  ;D ;)

There is a polished puddingstone slab, which constitutes the cornerstone of the Geological Survey of Canada's building in Ottawa. ;)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Brad_bb on May 23, 2010, 08:26:26 PM
Yeah, definitely need to find a stone cutter to slice and polish.  Maybe there are some into that like some of us are into timberframe? 
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on June 21, 2010, 08:53:41 PM
The newest addition. ;D

 

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02081.JPG)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on June 22, 2010, 03:45:57 AM
Out in Prince Rupert where I lived a few years back, there was a cove you could walk down to on a trail. On the shoreline it was covered by a mica-hornblende schist with garnet stones embedded into it. Mica along with the hornblende looks shiny and them garnet stones in through it looks neat. Some of them garnets were about an inch in diameter and down to 1/16" or so. I took some pieces of the small ones. Garnet of course is the mineral in rubies, but these were not gemstones. They are octagon shaped stones (garnet). At the university geology department they had a big slab of it on display.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: WDH on June 22, 2010, 04:37:36 PM
Wow Boss, that is a grown one!
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on August 15, 2010, 12:20:29 PM
While the Swamp Donkey and I were up in the U.P., I took him over to one of the areas where I explore for rocks.  We got in a couple small examples of pudding stones for him and a great chunk of 300 million year old fossilized fresh water coral.

I found two stones that really intrigued me. I've included some photos, and also video clips of them, and even with the video, you can't capture the unique beauty of these two rocks.  I think Donk will testify to that. :)

 

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02174.JPG)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02171.JPG)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02172.JPG)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMVb0Dcb7PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfSS9ihshOo
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on August 15, 2010, 12:54:40 PM
That first one had a fair amount of lustre to it when turned in the light. The second one was as Jeff described it: "looks like wood fibre".

Jeff kept turning up some fairly large pudding stones from his "pudding stone patch". I insisted on small ones. :D We found a few, one had some fairly large jasper on one side and the others where with smaller jasper inclusions.

I may have mentioned it earlier in the thread, but the Geological Survey of Canada has a pudding stone as a corner stone to their head office building. My other friend Jeff at the Sault has a few pudding stones he found on an island they can drive out onto. I think they have small jasper inclusions. He hasn't got a coral though, and he isn't getting mine. ;D Jeff_B's quite the rock hound. He also found a small piece of flint, which I acquired. ;) I to have rocks from all over the northern half of the continent. ;) Some day I'm going to build a proper display case. :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: WDH on August 16, 2010, 04:37:25 PM
SD,

If you want some Southern flint, I have thousands of pieces, and I would gladly contribute to your display.  All the flint pieces are native american chipped tools.  Special, really.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on August 16, 2010, 05:32:09 PM
I'd accept one for sure. We can wait until we meet up again at the Roast if you prefer.  ;)

I found a piece of flint around NB someplace, I can't remember. Mine I found here is light gray with tiny black specs and is almost arrow-like, but not really. There were a few found flints at the mouth of the Tobique River. I forget the details, but I do know that area was determined to be an encampment. Mine is real smooth.

Here is a picture. Front and Back.

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Flint_A.jpg)


(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Flint_B.jpg)

Mine's not a black or dark gray chert like the flint Jeff got me, but related. Definitely a chert though. Chert is what I always called it actually. ;)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: WDH on August 16, 2010, 05:50:33 PM
Our flint is brown, yellow, blue, and red.  If you promise to come back to the Pig Roast next year, I will bring you some genuine flint native american aritfacts.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: bd354 on August 16, 2010, 08:04:55 PM

 WDH, as a kid in the Boy Scouts we used to find pieces of pottery and arrow heads along the Ocmulgee River. Don't remember what I did with them. I wish I had them now.

  Here in Florida the state has banned any taking of artifacts. I 've seen some really good collections over the years.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SPIKER on August 16, 2010, 08:49:42 PM
I know some of you (me too) would love to cut some of these things in half.  this is on my local craigs list 20" diamond saw blade http://mansfield.craigslist.org/tls/1891496367.html I just have too many projects to try & get this by the CFO.


would be a nice thing to make a rock splitter...

'mark
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: WDH on August 17, 2010, 01:28:42 AM

 WDH, as a kid in the Boy Scouts we used to find pieces of pottery and arrow heads along the Ocmulgee River. Don't remember what I did with them. I wish I had them now.

  Here in Florida the state has banned any taking of artifacts. I 've seen some really good collections over the years.


Bd,

The Ocmulgee River area is rich in artifacts.  It must have been a good area to live many many years ago.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on August 17, 2010, 03:57:48 AM
At the mouth of the Tobique it narrows and is swift where the natives speared salmon. There is a dam there now. The place is now named Tobique Narrows. Mom's uncle joked when we went on 911 and they actually put place names on addresses instead of the town name the post office was at and a RR#. He said now we finally know where we live after all these years. He lived to be 90.  ;)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Coon on August 17, 2010, 12:24:29 PM
Hey Jeff,  I think that stone wif  da sparkles in it are YOOPER DIAMONDS.  ;D ..... better watch out though Swamp knows where your stash is.  ;)  :D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on August 17, 2010, 05:45:54 PM
I took the oath of silence.  ;D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: isawlogs on August 17, 2010, 06:04:06 PM
  :D 
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on August 17, 2010, 08:59:28 PM
Donk, how about seeing if you can get a good macro picture of your coral after it was cleaned up?
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: isawlogs on August 17, 2010, 09:01:34 PM
I will need go back next year , I forgot to pick up a rock for the fish habitat .  ::)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on August 18, 2010, 04:53:37 AM
Jeff, I intend to some day soon. Been kinda a cluster "" around work. Something about just getting new maps, and all the sudden we have fella's looking for more work strips. Boss was on vacation to, but the forest company and DNR are a slow bunch getting ground approved.  ::)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on August 21, 2010, 10:50:10 AM
Here is my prized fossilized coral Jeff found me up in the UP. I found some smaller pieces, but this was by far the best. We actually only took about 15 minutes of scouting. Jeff had to work in many more excursions on my visit.  ;)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_fossil-coral.jpg)



Here are some pudding stones we canvassed. ;D

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_puddingstones_UP-Mi.jpg)


Some day I will return my friend.  I enjoyed my short time at Lou's as well. I hope he finds the right fellow when and if he cuts some timber. Cedar is touch and go to get the right balance of take and leave so it all stands afterward. I'll have to get some pictures of some big old white cedar to send on to him in one of your trips up.

The old rock hound himself at a state park near De Tour on one of our excursions. We never tampered with the integrity of any parks, besides our foot prints. That means all plants and minerals stayed as they were. ;) Also, notice the cap was still in decent shape by then. :D

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Jeff_Park.jpg)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on August 21, 2010, 11:03:56 AM
Here's a chunk of flint we found in a pit.

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_flint-UP_Mi.jpg)

Feels nice and smooth like my other chert from back home. It's wet in this picture after washing it up.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on August 22, 2010, 09:36:14 PM
Donk, today I supersized your flint, plus found some other odds and ends, including some pudding stones, and never left the area we foun d your fossilized coral. :) Also found what looked like a dry rock waterfall.

 

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02235.JPG)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02239.JPG)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02242.JPG)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02247.JPG)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02257.JPG)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02255.JPG)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02256.JPG)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02257.JPG)


This is pure flint!  Anybody need to make an axe head? :)
(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02254.JPG)

Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: WDH on August 22, 2010, 10:00:07 PM
Glaciers are wonderful rock creators.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: pigman on August 22, 2010, 10:11:52 PM
One of the rocks looks just like a frog. ???
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: WDH on August 22, 2010, 10:17:44 PM
A glacier must have done that  ;D.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on August 23, 2010, 04:12:23 AM
Glaciers are wonderful rock creators.

And movers. ;D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on August 23, 2010, 04:19:27 AM
Wow, what you going to do with all the flint?  ;D

I see there is still lots of coral around. ;) That little pudding stone looks like an aquarium stone. ;) I got one up there chipped off a bigger one and there is a lot of different color jaspers in it, gray-black,red,pink. Where ever the rest of that stone is, it's a beaut. ;D  :D  That spot you were just at probably has all kinds of neat stones to discover. Now if ya find any quartz with gold embedded in it don't say nothing to this crowd. :D ;)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on August 23, 2010, 08:38:00 AM
Donk, do ya want me to send you a hunk of that flint?
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on August 23, 2010, 02:38:25 PM
No!!  :o :D I'll be back before we are both a lot older and grayer to get some.  Old fart. ;)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on August 23, 2010, 02:47:34 PM
Got this stash home just a few minutes ago. I was telling Stacy some of the uses for flint. She wanted to know how you cut smaller pieces out of the great big chunks I had. I showed here by dropping about a four pound pudding stone on the top of one of the chunks of Flint from waist high. :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on August 23, 2010, 02:54:55 PM
:D :D :D

Education by example. ;)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: isawlogs on August 23, 2010, 04:21:44 PM

 Just wondering what that would of  traded for in the times it was a comodity  :P ???
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: tyb525 on August 23, 2010, 04:30:25 PM
It's been in the back of my mind recently to get into rock collecting. I tried to turn my lathe into a rock polisher, but it spins too fast. Maybe someday I'll buy one. I've never found a puddin stone, I think it's time to look!

SD, Maybe it's time for WoodMizer to come out with the StoneMizer. 8) Just like with logs, I would love to be able to open up a large stone. :) Maybe a sawmill with a much slower turning, diamond edged band?
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on August 24, 2010, 04:30:44 AM
Maybe some lead.  ;D :D :D

Think flint lock rifle or pistol.  ;)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on August 31, 2010, 05:44:48 PM
Tammy and I went up north over the weekend and saw a bunch of stuff and I'll post about that elsewhere, but we also picked up a few stones on the shore of Lake superior and also the old pit not far from the cabin that I thought would be better posted here.  I did a video to try and show some of the beauty of the stones, but still didn't really succeed.

One of the photos below shows how Lake superior can turn trash into treasures if given a chance. The items are a hunk of old asphalt an d a piece of broken glass that have been battered in the lake for who knows how long.

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02319.JPG)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02318.JPG)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02316.JPG)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnyvjJNcN0M



Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on August 31, 2010, 06:51:48 PM
Jeff you can find quartz clear like that if it's one that has grown slowly into it's crystal form and not weathered afterwords.

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Quartz_Crystal.jpg)


(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Quartz_Crystal2.jpg)

We would pick these up behind road crews that blasted rock, or sometimes they would be on boulders that would roll out of hillside and be on slide fans at bottoms of mountains. Talking old fans that formed a long time ago, at least 500 years since the trees on them fans were huge. Might even have been caused my melting glaciers up on mountain tops because there were glaciers out were I worked. But, not recent in the area we picked these samples, but not glaciers of 1000's of years ago either. Well I don't think so or they would be soiled over by then. ;)

Anyway, the crystals would grow slower during cooling I think inside that opague white part of the quartz. These were like round globs on big rocks. Sometimes they were totally enclosed by the white part and other times open like a bowl with a narrow mouth. The globs were roundish is shape. The crystals never got weathered and warn in there. The first pick was scanned at 600 dpi and the second was at 1200 dpi. These crystals  are not all that big. The ones that were almost entirely enclosed and you could see in a small hole to see the crystals we called dragon's eggs. We never found any "entire" ones in the limited time we searched around. Any roadside stuff you can bet the road crew picked up as some people collect and sell them. ;)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Mooseherder on August 31, 2010, 07:12:25 PM
Lolita is out back washing rocks that we brought back from Maine for our friend Emily who had asked for them.
Turns out they are now moving to Georgia and she only ended up keeping the biggest one. :( 
She kept the one I turned around for on a 4 wheeler trail.  I went out to get pictures but the pictures don't really show the rocks beauty.
Now my truck is full of stuff they're getting rid of before the big move.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on September 09, 2010, 06:09:37 PM
Yesterday after I got my chores done, I wanted to go looking for pudding stones, but it was just to dangerous with the wind gusting up to 50 MPH, so I decided I'd go anyhow. ;)  I decided to go back and walk the trail where there was no nearby trees. My goal was to find the SMALLEST pudding stones I could find.  The largest pictured is around 2.5 inches in diameter.

 

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02345.JPG)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Tom on September 09, 2010, 06:29:20 PM
We don't have any rocks.  :'(
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: isawlogs on September 09, 2010, 09:33:08 PM

 Tom , what did you load a sling shot with ???
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: WDH on September 09, 2010, 10:22:04 PM
Oyster shells  ???.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: isawlogs on September 09, 2010, 10:25:51 PM
wouldn't that make a better arrow head ???
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on September 09, 2010, 10:36:19 PM
Tom, do you have fossils?


Speaking of, I found this one and have no clue what it is. I guess some sort of ancient sea creature.

 

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02347.JPG)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02348.JPG)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: WDH on September 09, 2010, 10:56:20 PM
I bet the slingshot was not Tom's weapon of choice.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on May 14, 2011, 09:13:27 PM
 

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02829.JPG)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02850.JPG)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02851.JPG)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02843.JPG)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02844.JPG)


(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02847.JPG)
(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02849.JPG)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: isawlogs on May 14, 2011, 09:34:18 PM

 Man is that ever cool , can ya give out more info on that saw .. A gazilion ideas of rock cuttings things to do ...  8) 8)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: WDH on May 14, 2011, 10:25:10 PM
Are you going to sticker and air dry or just put it directly in the kiln?   Once a sawyer, ever a sawyer, even in stone  :D.

Wow, that is simply amazing and extremely beautiful to me.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: fishpharmer on May 14, 2011, 10:32:29 PM
Would those be called "pudding stone cookies?"  They sure do look neat. 
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Magicman on May 14, 2011, 10:38:47 PM
Wow Jeff, that is awesome.  After seeing that, not sawing pudding stones would be like not sawing logs.  There is just so much beauty inside that needs to be looked at.   smiley_thumbsup
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Weekend_Sawyer on May 14, 2011, 10:49:40 PM
 Mmmm, puddin stone cookies, mmmm.

Jeff, the way you had them laid out was how I saw a bathroom floor "Tiled" at a B&B I stayed in a couple of years ago. Very nice.

Jon
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on May 15, 2011, 05:42:29 AM
Well I was hoping you'd be able to slice some of them rocks. Now just think of all the ideas to use them.  Awesome! 8)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: thecfarm on May 15, 2011, 06:34:51 AM
Got a market for the cuttings?
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Autocar on May 15, 2011, 07:03:00 AM
If you enjoy rock hunting take a trip to Spruce Pine North Carolina the gem capital of the United States. We had a good time there we found rubys,garnets and about every color of birth stone you can name.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on May 15, 2011, 07:38:48 AM
This saw I am told is near the small end in size. It takes a 14 inch blade and will clear 6 inches. This saw is about $1900  bucks and the blades are around $270.  Since I can't justify something like that, I've been bartering stones and web design skills in exchange for getting some rocks sawn. the rocks I have sown are from 4 stones. He still has that many more to saw for me. It takes quite some time to get one sawed up.

Short demo of the slabsaw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqoFrHKeoqk


This one didn't go as planned. Stuff happens eh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ1EPIwv7Og
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: doctorb on May 15, 2011, 07:49:01 AM
That is so cool!
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: isawlogs on May 15, 2011, 09:37:59 AM
 
  I want one, is that going on my wish list quick .  8)  :) :P
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on May 15, 2011, 09:39:10 AM
I met the Jarvis's at the Blueberry Festival last year in the U.P.  I struck up a conversation when I saw the use of the pudding stones in the baskets that Donna was selling. They are a beautiful creation combining North and South.  Pine Needles from Long Leave Yellow Pine they gather in Florida during the winter combined with more northern finds such as White Cedar Burl, Pudding and Petoskey stones and even slices of Walnuts.

I've been building them a website for the basket work. Although it only has some test products in it right now. I was up north this last couple of days teaching them how to enter products, and also to learn a bit about slicing up stones.  Bill only had about half of the stones sliced up that I took up there last fall.  Not much to look at yet for baskets, but the web address is www.needlebasket.com. It's almost Walleye season and I suspect since Bill's front door on Sugar Island looks out on some of the finest Walleye fishing anywhere, it may be a bit before the website gets much content. :) I'm hoping to get healed up enough from my shoulder surgery yet this summer to take Bill up on his offer to take me fishing.

Here is a video clip of Donna starting a basket.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNa2igvRZOk
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on May 15, 2011, 03:39:24 PM
One of my neighbors just delivered this to me. He got it from another neighbor that wanted to get rid of it because she thought it was "Ugly"  I can't find ugly in it myself other than maybe the photo I'm in.  :D :)

I've not sprayed it off yet to see how pretty it is when it's wet.

 

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02857.JPG)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02858.JPG)

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/pudding_from_joe.jpg)

Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Texas Ranger on May 15, 2011, 03:53:56 PM
Arm on knee, dog by side, way to go bub, oh, and nice stone.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Mooseherder on May 15, 2011, 03:55:39 PM
That is one fine looking' Dog! :) ;D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: WDH on May 15, 2011, 08:41:30 PM
Icey looks happy.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Weekend_Sawyer on May 15, 2011, 10:28:51 PM

 Icy allways looks happy!  ;D

 I googled cutting stones with a tile saw and the basic information I got is that it is possible but tedious and by rolling the stone you can double the depth of cut.

Jeff, What finish did you put on the one stone that was in a basket?

Jon
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: tyb525 on May 15, 2011, 10:40:00 PM
Just like a sawmill and a log, that is awesome!! I want a "stone mill" now!
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Weekend_Sawyer on May 15, 2011, 10:51:21 PM

 The first advise I got when I took up sawmilling as a hobby was, be careful, it's addictive.
on some of the stone forums they are giving the same advise.  :D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on May 15, 2011, 11:06:10 PM
I don't have any with finish on mine, but when Donna makes a basket, She pours some sort of acrylic or polyester over the stone, letting it create an edge that she can then punch holes in to start stitching her basket. She uses a heat gun to get all the bubbles out of the resin.

 

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/DSC02822.JPG)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: doctorb on May 16, 2011, 10:15:38 AM
Jeff-

On one hand I am astouded at how attractive those cuts can be, while on the other hand that uncut rock in front of you and Icey looks like the spot where a cement truck cleaned up after discharging its load.  It looks just like leftover concrete!  No offense intended to all worshipers of puddin' stones!  Looks like you can't tell a book by its cover.  Now the smooth one in the background of the picture looks neat.  I guess I better wait for a pic after you've washed it off.....
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on May 16, 2011, 03:04:59 PM
I can assure you that's not cement. The inclusions are almost all quartz on this one. It is some sort of conglomerate, just not like most I have. Much more hard to find ones like this. It's clearly broken off from a much larger chunk yet to be unearthed somewhere or other.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on May 16, 2011, 03:57:13 PM
 Does look like there can be some nice colors in that conglomerate. If you look close there are quite a few reds and blacks mixed in with white and grey. Some of the ones you got sawed have some strips in the red nodules. Nice!
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: tyb525 on May 16, 2011, 05:30:21 PM
It seems like a saw like that could be home made fairly easily
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on May 16, 2011, 06:13:58 PM
I think it could, if I guy had a shop.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on May 16, 2011, 08:35:39 PM
Jeff-
  I guess I better wait for a pic after you've washed it off.....

Doc, when the stone was dumped out of the gator, a fist sized chunk broke off. Here is a photo of that chunk. If you click on the photo you will get a super-sized image you can examine. As you will see, clearly not cement. :)

 

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/harrison_puddingstone.jpg) (http://www.forestryforum.com/puddingstones/harrison_puddingstone.jpg)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: doctorb on May 16, 2011, 10:13:08 PM
OK, OK....you have successfully defended the precious puddin'  :Dstones. ;D  They really are pretty cool!
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Texas Ranger on May 16, 2011, 10:35:56 PM
Bigfoot needs more fiber in his diet.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SPIKER on May 16, 2011, 11:11:26 PM
Bigfoot needs more fiber in his diet.

No wonder he is always screaming in the woods!  :o ::)

Mark
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: WDH on May 17, 2011, 09:46:10 PM
That broken off piece sure does have a graphic look of a nature that I will not describe  :). 
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: OneWithWood on May 18, 2011, 05:46:34 PM
He did say it was dumped by a gator...
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on June 16, 2011, 10:51:59 AM
I picked up the remainder of my pudding stone slabs this week. Some of them are pretty spectacular.  :)

 

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/puddingstone_slice.JPG)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Brad_bb on June 16, 2011, 12:58:39 PM
"Rockmizer", now that is hilarious!

I assume, Jeff, that these are for the basket making only.  The tiling is an interesting prospect, but then how quickly would the area run out of pudding stones?  I'm sure the same or similar effect could be created without using genuine pudding stones by using a binder of concrete or epoxy.  Jeff, the stones that are included in the pudding stone, are the individual stones readily available in your area?  They could be used to create artificial pudding stones in a mold which can then  be sliced up for tiles.  More economical with the same look, and doesn't use genuine ones.  They do this to some extent now with concrete and recycled colored glass counter tops.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on June 16, 2011, 04:40:26 PM
I'm glad you finally had the opportunity to have some sliced up. I know someone that used some floor tile inlayed into a coffee table, it would have been nice to have a natural stone in there instead. I never saw his work piece, just heard from his son, who works with us in the woods. Now combine that stone with some figured wood and....... 8)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on June 16, 2011, 04:42:30 PM
Burlkraft and I are throwing around some ideas on what to make with some of them.  :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Patty on June 16, 2011, 05:23:37 PM
With both of your talents, I am sure the end results will be awesome.  :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: cinnabar on June 17, 2011, 12:55:43 AM
Cool looking rock. (but aren't they all?) I went to school for geology and always like to find nice samples.  On our trip this summer through the U.P. and lower MI  I sure hope to have a chance to find one.  It need not be as large as the ones in Jeff's photos.   Would be great to add one to my collection.    I'll bring my rock hammer along for sure.   8)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: thecfarm on June 17, 2011, 07:39:18 AM
I suppose you mean pudding stone cinnabar. I have many in my field that don't look so cool. Especially when you run the baler into one.  :(
Those pudding stone sure are pretty when they are opened up.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on June 17, 2011, 10:21:47 AM
That's because your suppose to pick rocks when your farming, so machinery don't get busted up on them. :D ;)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Coon on June 17, 2011, 10:54:21 AM
thecfarm, sounds like you need to get out the old stoneboat and hook it to the tractor and work like a rented mule.  :D  :D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: isawlogs on June 17, 2011, 01:22:34 PM

 A good oll stone is to a baler what a good oll nail is to a mill.

 We found /discovered a few yesterday with the bush-hog.  :-\
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on June 17, 2011, 05:53:53 PM
We picked every worked field no matter the crop. Rocks even had to be picked for grain fields. And we picked a mountain the last 40 years and there was just as many 40 years before and 40 before that. :D

There's rocks filling wet roads, swamps, dumped in woods edge, around a big spring, under foundations of buildings and 20 foot thick piled for several yards on the boundary line. :D

And I cursed out in the woods when I struck some stones where the dozer turned up some big stones in the plantation scarification work. I ruined 2 blades in a couple days. :D None seemed to be granite, some type of rounded calcareous stones. Not much texture, just smooth and grey.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Mooseherder on June 17, 2011, 06:05:11 PM
Rock picking Potato fields was one way for dirt poor fellers like me to make a little spending money all though the pay wasn't that great.
The Potato Harvest was the other way for families to cloth their young ins. 
Rock work wasn't as much fun as Taters. ;)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: thecfarm on June 18, 2011, 06:40:49 AM
I'm not talking rocks that can be easily moved. Those easy ones are all gone.
Need to rent a BIG dozer again. And some dynamite.My Father dynamited a few when it was legal for a farmer to use it.I probably have some as big as a one bedroom house. My 40 hp NH can't move those.  :D  I've been picking rocks here for more than 40 years and probably still have another 40 to go unless I come into a big chunk of change. Small ones behind the plow wasn't bad,just the one we had to go around. My Father had a bottom of one field rocked and 2 fields  done. I've been behind a stone boat a few days. We was always big on digging rocks here. But a few pieces of ledge kinda slowed us down. I can remember a good many hour digging around a rock to get a chain around it and than hauling dirt to fill the hole up. This was before we had a loader on a tractor too. All the dirt had to be shoveled on to a trailer Than we found more rocks digging for dirt to fill the rock holes up. 
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on June 18, 2011, 06:56:44 AM
Now were getting down to mine's bigger than yours. :D ;)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: thecfarm on June 18, 2011, 07:03:31 AM
I don't know about if mine is bigger than yours, ;D  but I have more.  ;D :(
Forgot to mention had a friend that comes over and just about every time in the last few weeks I was either picking up rocks or digging them out. He says I'm a expect on digging rocks. I wished I could get paid for my expertise.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Coon on June 18, 2011, 04:04:45 PM
Some areas around here I don't think have seen a stone picker or stoneboat in the last 40 years as you would be hard pressed to even find one the size of a golf ball on the whole section.  :)  Yet other areas just a couple miles over there are piles of stones about a third the size of a football field every couple hundred yard or so.   :D  I picked stones, on one quarter section like this, with a big tractor and stone picker for a week and the only change you could see evident was that the stone piles were bigger.   :D  I don't know why anyone would even bother to farm land like this and just beat the snot out of expensive farm equipment.   ::)  Just don't know what goes on in the heads of some of these farmers.   :D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: isawlogs on June 18, 2011, 09:24:34 PM
 I found a stone today that my plow must of dug up last winter with the lawn tractor, now it has vibrating mode when cutters are engaged.  ::)  Another set of knives hit da dust.

 Ray , I hear you well about them rocks, here the fields are bare of them , but one needs to chose his path well when in the bush.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on June 19, 2011, 06:48:32 AM
My grandfather work for an old farmer in Maine many years ago. And the field was full of ledge knolls. The equipment was also all hay wired together from being warn out. Every time the harrow went over one of them bare knolls it would fall apart. ;)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Corley5 on July 22, 2011, 11:55:25 PM
(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10027/3585/Grapes_001.jpg)

On display in the Smithsonian's Museum of Natural History  8) 8) 8)  This one was found near Kalamazoo  :) :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: thecfarm on July 23, 2011, 05:07:22 AM
Did you go there?This is in DC right?
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on July 23, 2011, 05:30:48 AM
Here is a small article on pudding stone as well. ;D

http://toadisland.tripod.com/drummond/pudmore.html
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Ianab on July 23, 2011, 05:51:11 AM
Moment of panic here.

The worlds most travelled Michagan  Pudding Stone was LOST.  :o

Found it in the bottom drawer in the kitchen, where the cleaner would naturally put random rocks  :D

It's back in pride of place in front of the fish tank with various other random stuff that doesn't get messed with  ;)

Ian.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Magicman on July 23, 2011, 08:49:41 AM
I want one too.   :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Corley5 on July 23, 2011, 09:03:06 AM
Did you go there?This is in DC right?

Yup  8) :) :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on July 23, 2011, 09:22:04 AM
Here is my newest acquisition. Burlkraft helped me get it loaded to bring home when we were up to the cabin last month.

 

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/new-puddin.jpg)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: doctorb on July 23, 2011, 09:29:22 AM
When we were kids, we used to have a four leaf clover contest at birthday parties.  I never found one.  Are the pudding' stones easy to find or do they hide from ya'?  Do you know if they are found in the Canadian Shield area north of Lake Ontario?  Is there a reference that I could look up their distribution and range?
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on July 23, 2011, 09:54:11 AM
They can be pretty hard to find, and are not that common. When I say hard to find, its kinda like finding Morel Mushrooms. If you find where they live, you have to get an eye for spotting them.

I have reference books that state they are only found in the eastern parts of the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, but that is fallacy.  Corley5 finds them near and around wolverine, and we find them here in Harrison as well. My buddy Joe just found some on the Charity Islands out in Lake Huron out from Saginaw Bay.  The specimen that Corley5 posted from the Natural History Museum states it came from Kalamazoo, which is in the southern lower peninsula.  They are said to have come into Michigan with glacial till from Elliot lake, Bruce and Colbalt Ontario.  The areas that I find them in Michigan are always places where there appears to be a glacial History.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Patty on July 23, 2011, 10:16:42 AM
Here is my newest acquisition. Burlkraft helped me get it loaded to bring home when we were up to the cabin last month.

 

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2400/new-puddin.jpg)


Hey! Speaking of Burlkraft......we have not heard from him in awhile. What is he up to these days?
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on July 23, 2011, 10:17:38 AM
His computer is kaput. He's been waiting to get it back.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on July 23, 2011, 10:58:03 AM
Yeah, my buddy Jeff at Saulte Ste Marie, Ontario has found all kinds of them to. One spot was on an Island nearby.

There is a polished one in Ottawa as a corner stone of the Geological Survey of Canada building.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: isawlogs on July 23, 2011, 04:49:19 PM
Hey! Speaking of Burlkraft......we have not heard from him in awhile. What is he up to these days?

  Patty ... He is still looking and drooling over the pics he took in Holland.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Norm on July 23, 2011, 04:54:08 PM
And hasn't shared with his bestest buddies on here! :D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Ron Scott on July 23, 2011, 08:04:52 PM
A guy recently showed me some pudden stones that he found here near Cadillac, MI. He's a serious collecter of them also.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: WDH on July 23, 2011, 10:42:49 PM
And hasn't shared with his bestest buddies on here! :D

I know.  What an anticlimax. 
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Autocar on July 24, 2011, 01:36:11 PM
I think I may have one of those stones , we drug buckets home from Grand Marais and Deer Park over the years. Every hunting trip I ever took I stones I drug home. Floatplane Pilot's have given me some funny looks over the years  ::)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on July 24, 2011, 08:28:54 PM
Odds are, you won't have a puddingstone for those area's Autocar, but you might very well have some agates.  :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on September 14, 2012, 05:33:38 PM
Last weekend, Burlkraft and I met up to the cabin and went on a "Lou" expedition. The goal was to put for sale signs on the Saint Mary's river side of a property Lou owns that he wants to sell. It's quite a ride to get to it by land, so we went by sea. ;D  Actually, Great lake levels are so low that we were able to drive off shore where there used to be water, but now only rocks. While out there, i found an awesome pudding stone that is now high and dry, however due to its size and location, it will stay where it is, because after all, the fun is in the hunt, not in the capture. :)

The property that Lou is selling lies right next door to his father's old hunting camp that has stood on a rocky point for years. Very hard to reach by land. Up until this year, it had been a time capsule from the 60's and 70's. Last time out there it was fine, still with a hunting license from 1972 laying on the table and a can of spam that looked like new in the old refrigerator from the same time period.  We found the cabin this year with the windows broken out, and the inside plundered.  :(

 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/lou_quads.jpg) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/steve_quads.jpg) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/jeff_quads.jpg) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/big_puddin1.jpg) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/big_puddin2.jpg)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SPIKER on September 14, 2012, 09:07:45 PM
ahh heck Jeff ya should of slipped that into your pocket for the ride home lol...

Mark
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on September 15, 2012, 04:42:49 AM
The remoteness probably saved the cabin all these years I'm sure. People there are like here, any property not watched over invites the curious and devious. Windows and doors are always the first target. Too many "Dirty Harry" movies I guess. ;)

I guess that could be the whopper of pudding stones, even the imbedded stones are huge.  :)

In the woods one time, while working on the BC coast, was a boulder that had rolled down off the mountain and covered with quartz crystals. Would of made a neat display in a geology building. ;D These crystals were the long angular kind with no smoothing. I broke off some and have them here. I posted to the forum a few years ago. The quartz bubbled up on the outside and the crystals grew inward, so no weathering occurred. They were clear like glass, but the outside of the bubbles were cloudy.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: thecfarm on September 15, 2012, 08:59:03 AM
Jeff,did you mark it on your GPS? Those things are all over the place there. Good that you are helping  Lou. Kinda sad too that he can not use that hunting camp like he did.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Burlkraft on September 15, 2012, 09:53:51 AM
Didn't you see the GPS stick next to the stone?  :D :D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: thecfarm on September 15, 2012, 09:58:14 AM
I thought that was a high water marker.  :D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on September 15, 2012, 10:51:12 AM
Its right here

http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=46.047638&lon=-84.015541&z=20&r=0&src=msl
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: OneWithWood on September 15, 2012, 12:28:16 PM
Neat rock  8)

How many acres is Lou selling?  Price?  Accessibility?
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on September 15, 2012, 12:35:07 PM
25 acres for 50,000.  Accessibility is tough. It has a deeded access, but via a bridge made of flatbed semi trailers that is in bad bad shape, plus the road is flooded on either side of the bridge, probably due to beavers and erosion. You can get to it from the east as well, but that is not deeded. That is the way we got to it. We went via the beech versus the old trail due to not having a chainsaw with us, as you always have to cut your way through the swamp if you are the first ones through there.

I'm suspecting meth-heads did in the cabin. There wasn't any sign of a cook there, as its probably too far back, but we noted earlier in the year that an abandoned jeep, and several other sources of old scrap metal were gone. Not an easy task back there.

Here is the link to Lou's dads cabin.
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=46.049946&lon=-84.022616&z=17.4&r=0&src=msl

The cross hairs are on the cabin. The west property line for Lou's property is about half way to that next rocky point to the east, then the east line is I think, 660 feet to the east.   The property has an awesome view looking directly out to lime and little lime Islands, and across the shipping channel.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: mooleycow on September 15, 2012, 05:33:28 PM
we are going to mount ida on vacation this year.  does anyone know if pudding stones exist in that area.  mount ida is suppose to be a good place to do some gem mining.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: beenthere on September 15, 2012, 06:24:39 PM
Where is mount ida ? 
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: mooleycow on September 19, 2012, 09:08:32 AM
Arkansas, now back to pudding rocks, you reckon they got any?  If it ain't mt ida then where in Arkansas? we is headin that way mighty soon. be nice to find some.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on September 19, 2012, 09:29:36 AM
The pudding stones like I find, you will not find anywhere in Arkansas.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on September 19, 2012, 11:08:54 AM
Pudding stone of Mississagi river valley, Ontario.

http://epe.lac-bac.gc.ca/100/205/301/ic/cdc/Mississagi/natural/land/puddingstone.htm
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: mooleycow on September 23, 2012, 07:44:09 PM
Thanks Jeff
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on June 16, 2013, 09:17:50 AM
A friend and neighbor of mine, some of you have met at the pig roast, Joe Wade, and I, went on a local Puddingstone hunt this week. The area around Harrison is actually a prime location for minding conglomerates. My hunt was quite successful! I found what I now consider my prize stone. Its a big un. several hundred lbs. In new it was unique, but didn;t know it's secret until I got it home and washed the dirt and clay from it. Tammy came out to see it for the first time, and she noticed right away what I had yet to see even thought I was scrubbing it with a brush. 

We now refer to it as the "Bear Track Puddingstone". I know, it doesn't look "exactly" like a bear track, but hey! Close enough!  I placed it in the garden project I had been working on this spring. A new shade garden where I could never get grass to grow. Tammy's mom and my Sister have provided us with some Hasta thinning to help plant the garden. :)

I've added some photos of that, and also the little shade garden I put in in the back yard as well, which features more puddingstones I hauled home from the U.P. this past fall. Also I started collecting some sandstones and you can see that in one of the photos as well from the front sun garden.  The last photo is of the yet to be cleaned stones I found on my hunt with Joe.  :)

 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/DSC00130.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/DSC00129.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/DSC00127.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/DSC00139.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/DSC00134.JPG) 

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Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Magicman on June 16, 2013, 09:44:52 AM
Nice find.  Looks like a bear track to me.   :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on June 16, 2013, 10:27:23 AM
Nice stones, and nice mulched gardens to. Looks pretty close to a track.  ;D

Others will haul rocks off and Jeff repopulates the yard. ;)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: OneWithWood on June 16, 2013, 12:25:56 PM
Pink Panther track!
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Autocar on June 16, 2013, 12:57:02 PM
Like all your stones Iam always draging them home also  ;).
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: gspren on June 16, 2013, 08:17:26 PM
  My dear wife wants to catch (find) some of these special stones this year after the pig roast, could you point us to the right area?
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Corley5 on June 16, 2013, 08:23:35 PM
That's like giving up your favorite mushroom patch  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: thecfarm on June 16, 2013, 09:05:44 PM
I have way more more rocks.  ;D  All that you have to do is get on my mower and you will find them. Mine are not the pretty ones and no bear has left thier paw print on any either.
 Those hostas will grow and spread. I have a small place of them. I left a few feet between them and they are all touching now. I have 3-4-5 differant types. Mine are in direct sun though.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on August 09, 2013, 04:29:34 PM
I'm pretty excited about an adventure coming up this coming Tuesday morning. It involves an invite to a special, locally historical spot to perhaps salvage some potential long lost pudding stones.  8)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on August 09, 2013, 05:20:33 PM
Who lost them? ;D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on August 09, 2013, 05:38:35 PM
Are these stones worth money to collectors? Or are they collectable?
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on August 09, 2013, 08:41:25 PM
Or are they collectable?

Did you really just ask that of me?  ;D smiley_sidelightbulb

Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on August 09, 2013, 09:35:48 PM
Or are they collectable?

Did you really just ask that of me?  ;D smiley_sidelightbulb

That was sort of a dumb question. But since all we have in the south is Kidney Stones and I've never seen a pudding stone, I just thought they may be a rare stone.  :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on August 10, 2013, 03:12:37 AM
I think they are definitely salable stones. The key is to get the 'right' one(s) for sale. Poston, I may have mentioned it before, but there is a pudding stone set as a corner stone on the Geological Survey of Canada head office. Where my friends live just north of Jeff's woodland property, in Sault St Marie, Ontario they collect them around there as well. One Island in particular. They are not collectors like Jeff here though. They just think of them as curious rocks. ;) Jeff has gave me a few. ;D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on May 18, 2014, 07:48:06 PM
Today my friend and Neighbor Joe Wade went on a pudding stone hunt. I was after little ones. I did okay. Not all officially puddingstones, but mostly conglomerates. :)
 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/puddingmay1.jpg)
 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/puddingmay2.jpg)

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/puddingmay3.jpg)

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/puddingmay4.jpg)

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/puddingmay5.jpg)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: WmFritz on May 18, 2014, 08:02:05 PM
Good hunt there Boss.
Do you sell em individually or by the pound.  :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on May 18, 2014, 08:04:43 PM
Yes, I like the small ones.  8) I still have mine here Jeff. I recently had to store them for awhile since I'm relocating for an indefinite time. But they will be right here at the farm. Someday I will return 'home', the farm that is.  ;D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on May 18, 2014, 08:19:26 PM
Wish we had them down here…... >:(
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on May 18, 2014, 08:41:44 PM
Good hunt there Boss.
Do you sell em individually or by the pound.  :)

I'm not a seller. I'm a hoarder. :D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Magicman on May 18, 2014, 09:11:55 PM
Looks like a very productive day. 
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: WmFritz on May 18, 2014, 10:08:28 PM
There is a guy in Wolverine with a sign by the road with them for sale.
It makes me think of Jeff's collection I saw at the Pig Roast.
Just like money in the bank.  ;)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: cnewbykkn on February 14, 2017, 09:48:54 PM
Jeff, was nice chatting with you today.  Hopefully we can meet up sometime for a hunt.  Here are a few pics of one of my favorite stones and the journey to get it unearthed!
(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/45107/20161107_161318~0.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1487125837)
(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/45107/20161116_142647.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1487127499)(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/45107/20161116_152740.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1487127545)
(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/45107/20161116_203128.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1487127604)(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/45107/20161116_202815.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1487127338)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on February 15, 2017, 06:22:26 AM
That's a beauty.  :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Peter Drouin on February 15, 2017, 06:29:32 AM
So what are you going to with your rock?
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: cnewbykkn on February 15, 2017, 08:28:37 AM
That's a beauty.  :)
Thanks.  8)

So what are you going to with your rock?
I have no plans for it right now, it currently sits in front of my house with the rest of the puddings.  ;D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on February 15, 2017, 08:47:52 AM
Those red ones are half again as heavy as the white ones.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: cnewbykkn on February 15, 2017, 09:07:26 AM
Those red ones are half again as heavy as the white ones.

Absolutely.  Most of mine are of the white variety.  It looks as if the pink/red stones are much more dense as if the matrix crystallized much more.  Here is a dirty picture of that stone and what I mean(I am no expert on the subject).
(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/45107/20161116_1438135B15D.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1487167616)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on February 15, 2017, 09:29:37 AM
As I get older, puddingstone hunting gets so much easier. I have so many of them around here now, that as my memory fades, it's like finding them all over again without leaving the yard, or house for that matter. :D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: ToddsPoint on February 17, 2017, 04:06:16 AM
I live near the terminal moraine of the Wisconsin glacier in south central IL.  The glacier brought down huge amounts of rock from Canada and other points north.  I find pudding stone all the time.  I was told at the U of I geology dept. that the pudding stone is one of the oldest rocks in N. America that can be found at the surface.  Largest one I've found was about 6" across.  I also found a 2" long Petosky stone.  A Corps of Engineers lake is 2 mi. from here where I hunt and when they lower the water level in winter (right now) the beaches look like rock city.  I was involved in experimental archaeology for many years and worked rocks like pudding stone, diabase porphyry, ferruginous quartz and many others into axes, celts, banner stones, discoidals and pipes.  If I could figure out how to post pics I'd show you some.  I'm a primitive.  I can work rocks but have problems with computers.  Gary
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: cnewbykkn on February 17, 2017, 04:07:22 PM
Here is a smaller one I worked on a while to polish up and show the kids.
(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/45107/20160928_1803455B15D.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1487365571)
(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/45107/20160929_1848365B15D.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1487365614)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on February 17, 2017, 04:30:33 PM
There is even some sky blue in that one. Awesome mix of colors.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on August 17, 2020, 09:26:19 PM
i got a chance to tromp around in my puddingstone hunting areas this past Saturday.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/20200816_134242.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1597713904)
 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/20200816_134235.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1597713906)
 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/20200816_134222.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1597713920)
 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/20200816_134207.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1597713934)
 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/20200816_134213.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1597713937)
 
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: ljohnsaw on August 18, 2020, 12:07:37 AM
Cool!  What is that one on the right side of the 3rd pic?  Looks like coral or maybe a fossilized brain :D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on August 18, 2020, 06:33:52 AM
That was the first stone I found that day. It's pretty awesome.


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/20200817_150708.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1597746813)
 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/20200817_150715.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1597746813)
 
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: WDH on August 18, 2020, 07:26:11 AM
Looks like a fossil. 
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on August 18, 2020, 07:42:15 AM
It's favosite, an extinct corral.  Around 300 million years old.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: WDH on August 18, 2020, 07:43:55 AM
I was referring to your hand :D. 
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on August 18, 2020, 08:01:00 AM
So was I. :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Banjo picker on August 18, 2020, 08:32:37 AM
I’m glad you all like each other.  Jeff those stones are beautiful.  Hunting them is probably akin to hunting arrowheads....I sometimes find myself in a creek up to my knees when I should be cutting the grass or something else.  Are those mainly native to Michigan?  Tim
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on August 18, 2020, 10:38:26 AM
The pudding stones are mostly an eastern half of Michigan and lake huron drainage thing. Pushed down from ontario by glaciers.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: SwampDonkey on August 18, 2020, 05:03:21 PM
Some nice additions to the herd. ;) Probably a nice time to tromp around up there, if like here, the biting flies have pretty much gave up for the year. Have not seen a deer fly in a week and no black flies for weeks. :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on August 18, 2020, 05:05:49 PM
The deer flies were around but not bad. Some skeeters near dark, but we are into the glorious days of the U.P. now.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: thecfarm on August 18, 2020, 08:38:03 PM
Nice looking stones. Nothing like what I have growing around here.   ;D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: gspren on August 19, 2020, 08:22:18 AM
At our Delaware beach house there are some pudding stones mixed in with the landscaping rocks, Magic spotted them first and now I've found others, mostly 4-6" rounded type rocks from probably New Jersey where they also have Pudding stones. I don't have to leave the sidewalk to hunt them which is funny because if you go out in the wooded areas near there hunting deer you can walk all day without seeing a rock.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: trimguy on May 01, 2021, 12:34:45 PM
 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/57881/153810DD-B7E7-4077-920A-1969FB15D6AF.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1619886859)
 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/57881/212FEDB3-F521-4DE4-B7FA-5C8F8011EA93.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1619886739)
 Someone say puddin stone
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on May 01, 2021, 01:01:21 PM
HEY! Those aint Georgia stones! A couple decent ones in there.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: trimguy on May 01, 2021, 09:41:58 PM
😁 No they’re not. These are some my uncle collected. We’re up here working on a broke cabin project that we have. Maybe some day will be able to spend the summer up here to get out of the Georgia heat. It won’t be any time soon , the cabin is broke and the whole day job thing.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on May 01, 2021, 09:55:06 PM
So where are you at from me?? (I dont want your puddin stones ;) )
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: trimguy on May 01, 2021, 10:03:47 PM
North. Cheboygan, just south east of Machinaw City .I have a lot of family here and this is where I was raised.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on May 01, 2021, 10:22:45 PM
Well you aint far from my route to the cabin. How long will you be in the area?
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on May 01, 2021, 10:24:08 PM
I found this little guy in the front yard today...

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/20210501_221826.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1619922225)
 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/20210501_221821.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1619922225)
 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/20210501_221800.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1619922228)
 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/20210501_221752.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1619922228)
 
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: trimguy on May 01, 2021, 11:20:07 PM
I think we leave Friday morning. I will verify tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: trimguy on May 02, 2021, 06:42:46 AM
Yes , we head south Friday morning. When are you going up ? We could meet in Machinaw and it wouldn’t be out of your way ?
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on May 02, 2021, 07:04:32 AM
It's unclear yet, but I am hopeing before then. Things keep popping up to slow me down, like an adult child that fell off her friends truck running board while moving and breaking her foot in 3 places and now cant drive to the drs.

My trailer is ready. I loaded it yesterday to leave today. Anope
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/20210501_204629.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1619953406)
 
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Don P on May 02, 2021, 07:17:47 AM
Owww! that's going to cut into her summer. Hope she heals fast and well.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: trimguy on May 02, 2021, 07:23:09 AM
I sent you a PM. It would be great to meet Tammy, well you to I guess. :D :D
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on May 02, 2021, 09:46:34 AM
 :D 
got your pm. When we get the haywire bent straight I'll call ya. :)
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: trimguy on May 02, 2021, 10:29:09 AM
Great !
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/57881/3C06B5B9-5E34-4478-AFEC-737964C9B611.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1619965680)
 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/57881/5D15D465-D28E-46F3-818E-599A55D13CAC.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1619965701)
 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/57881/D3EDDB5F-E430-4B1E-9B82-3273525715CA.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1619965719)
 I found some more of his stash.
Title: Re: Hunting the elusive Michigan Pudding stone
Post by: Jeff on May 02, 2021, 10:45:38 AM
Now yer showin off. :D