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« on: January 26, 2020, 10:53:01 AM »
Hey guys and gals.  I have been thinking about this for a while.  I need to loose some weight.  it is talked about a fair amount on the forum.  Many of us are very active outdoors, and we all like to eat.  At work the staff started a contest.  they all put in 25 bucks and at the end, the team with the highest % weight loss gets a thousand dollars.  Not suggesting we put money in, but could start a thread with ideas of what is working, and not.  both exercise and food moderation.  I was inspired by @Bruno of NH .  despite all my threads and how much I do say, I often bite my tongue.  I got down to 160 after Philmont in 2016.  I am back up to my natural weight of 190. (the weight I get to if I am not trying to loose weight).  lots of stuff out there.  I know a lot about the older ones, Adkins as an example.  There are some doctor monitored ones.  Many of us are at that age with diabetes, high blood pressure and cholesterol make up a good portion of our Medical appointments and medications.  I am fortunate to not need meds for now, but my Mom and Grandma had high blood pressure, DM, and cholesterol issues.  If it helps anyone to talk with others, or if you have questions, or want the group to help you stay on track, thought we could give this a try.  A dietician at K-state did a study and lost 30 pounds eating Twinkies in moderations.  It gets complicated if you already have medical problems and it is not my desire to practice medicine on line.  My goal is to loose 30 pounds to feel better, stave off disease,  make it easier on my knees.  I will use Atkins type of food goals.  Keto is similar but uses stick to achieve ketosis.  Also some walking and or weight lifting can be helpful.  just like a bank account, your balance (weight) is based on deposits and withdrawals.  sounds like @Bruno of NH  has a jump on all of us.  Type 2 diabetics can sometimes go off meds after weight loss.  I am setting a goal of about 15%.  I used to be able to do Atkins and loos 5 to 10 pounds in 2 weeks.  now it is harder.  good luck.
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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2020, 11:02:16 AM »
I'm all in Doc
I'm doing this with a group of friends that I do the Sports radio program with.
It helps a lot and is fun.
Maybe we could do a box of bands,log rite tool or some thing like that as a prize.
The inches I lost in 2 weeks makes such a difference in how I feel.
I'm doing low carb with a protein shake once or twice a day.
I'm not hungry.
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2020, 11:04:10 AM »
And eating chicken and fish
Not my 2 favorite things but
I'm getting used to it.
My A1c has gone down also.
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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2020, 11:06:53 AM »
great job!  I used to tell my diabetics not to do Low carb (25 years ago) due to protein being tough on kidney function.  but the overall metabolic problems are helped with low carb and type 2 dm.  less sugar makes sense.  I will go into some medical rational later.  
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2020, 11:21:52 AM »
Doc
I gave up sweet treats and sugar after my PE when they also told me I needed insulin.
It's the other stuff like bread and pasta.
I'm finding you need to drink lots of water.
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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2020, 11:29:56 AM »
I like veggies but mostly fresh stuff.
In New Hampshire the winters make it tough to get good veggies.
Certain veggies are good and berries.
I'm drinking almond milk and eating unsalted almonds.
The almonds fill you up.
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2020, 11:46:04 AM »
Years ago at work we did a weight loss thing two or three times - in the Spring, IIRC.  It went something like this:

First weigh in was your base weight and put in $10.  Each week weigh again and pay $1 if your weight went up.  I don't think it was per pound, just that you went up.  The goal was a steady drop, not a big drop and little gains.  We did this for about 3 months.  Highest % won the pot.

For me, walking does good as well as eating (much) less.  I just like food too much.  I have to stay away from ice cream and eat frozen bananas instead.

Doc, you didn't say how tall you are for the 160/190 pounds.  I'm 5-11.  In my younger days working on the ranch I was 165-175.  I look scary skinny in the pictures (compared to now!) ;)  When I get down to 195 I feel great.  I'm 206 right now.  Working on my cabin in the summer I get down to the 195.  My "goal" has been 185 but the closest I ever got was 190 and I have to wear a belt so my 33" and 34" jeans don't to fall off.  But, working hard at the cabin, I loose the fluffy fat and gain dense muscles.  My weight doesn't fall far but I loose inches and look better at 195.
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2020, 12:48:36 PM »
I'm in! All these years if sitting long hours in a machine, and loving to eat, are catching up with me. I'm 6'5", and just hit 300 pounds. I told myself prior that this was my limit where I have to take action.
Too many irons in the fire

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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2020, 01:18:20 PM »
It didn't help me sitting in a truck cab all those years plowing snow.
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2020, 01:25:30 PM »
well I am 5'8" or at least I was.  In high school I did 3 sports a year and was in about 9 clubs and always had a part time job.  in college when tested I was at 3% body fat, I was at 135#, could do 100 push-ups, and then repeat in an hour if challenged,  so that was easy.  it gets harder as we get older.  Anabolic steroids are plentiful at younger ages.  think testosterone.  It makes my wife mad that she can run a marathon, and I have a poochy tummy and still have a lower body fat content then her.  Human growth hormone regulates anabolic steroids.  think of a teenage boy.  eats all they want and more, have all kinds of muscle and energy.  lots of HGH.  after we are grown it is normal to decrease, but we still need some.  this is where a good nights sleep comes in.  HGH releasing substance is release in REM sleep.  the test for this is 2 postage stamps stuck on your privates.  if they are torn in half on the perforation in the morning, you know that you had a release of HGH releasing substance and a burst of HGH and testosterone.  "morning thickness".  We just need a little in our systems as we are older.  this is why weight gain and diabetes can become a cycle.  The hormone that balances HGH is insulin.  It has the opposite effects.  Insulin helps to move sugar into the cells for metabolism, and if there is more than we need, we store it as fat.  It makes us want to sleep and eat.  think siesta.  having a high insulin level is the same as a low HGH/testosterone level.  Type 2 diabetics have insulin resistance, and therefore have to produce many times more insulin to move sugar in the cell.  you want to eat and sleep.  remember that complex carbohydrates (starches) are sugars hooked together.  takes longer to breakdown but the same as sugar.  so you want to be sedentary and eat more, you gain weight, and now you become more insulin resistant, now you snore when you sleep, and never get REM sleep.  since your sleep apnea wakes you up just as you get into deep sleep and stop breathing.  no HGH releasing substance.  all these things add up to metabolic syndromes with cholesterol, high blood pressure, and diabetes, all leading to vascular disease like stroke and heart attack.  there is a family predisposition to insulin resistance.  goes up with age and weight gain.  More kids now with type 2 DM in their teens.  exercise can help, but hard to do if you are overweight, tired, and with other health issues.  DM is a blood sugar over 126 fasting on 2 occasions.  type 1 makes no insulin.  type 2 makes tons of insulin but the cellular receptors are resistant.  so takes more insulin to move sugar in the cell, until the pancreas cannot keep up, and then blood sugar goes up.  this is why you can be pre-diabetic for years with high insulin levels but not have high blood sugars.  if you were a gestational diabetic (girls) you will likely be a type 2 diabetic,
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2020, 01:26:25 PM »
my dad was a truck driver, and I wonder if he could even drive without a cigarette in his hand.
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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2020, 01:28:12 PM »
drinking lots of water is good.  keeps you full, and protects the kidney from all the nitrogen liberated from the excess protein and therefore amino acids in the high protein diets.  
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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2020, 06:26:57 PM »
@doc henderson ,

   Okay Doc I'm gonna bite. Who came up with the idea of putting a couple of postage stamps on your 'nads? Are you sure you haven't been back into the magic mushrooms or such? :D
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« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2020, 06:33:23 PM »
@WV Sawmiller , that is old fashioned cheap medicine.  been around for decades.  only works on the men.  if you know what i mean.  so not nads plural but singular if you know what i mean.  i do not want to be sent to the woodshed!  i do not know who cam up with it, but you can google it if you like.   :) :) :)
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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2020, 06:43:38 PM »
@WV Sawmiller  please do not go to the post office and ask them to apply, or try to mail yourself someplace.  you may wind up in the poky!   :D :D :D
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« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2020, 07:00:26 PM »
   Will they ship me C.O.D.? :D
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« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2020, 07:42:16 PM »
Hey Doc, in my former life I would join you on the weight loss thing but since about 4 years ago when I was originally diagnosed with type 2 diabetes, and after much research, I went on the Ketogenic diet and have been on it now for 4 straight years.  Benefits are that I lost all the weight I can stand to lose (roughly 40 pounds) and my diabetes was completely cured.  All my blood tests are better than they were 40 years ago.  Other benefits are all the steaks you can eat and other "fattening" things like butter.  I make my own zero carb ice cream so can still have something sweet.  

Don't get me wrong, the Ketogenic diet is a lifestyle change and not just a diet.  It is hard for a lot of people to stay on it because it limits what you can eat.  My diet consists of 60% fat, 5% or less carbs, and the balance is proteins.  There are days I would kill for a donut or a hand full of M & M's but I've learned to accept the benefits and ignore what is unhealthy for me.

I am rooting for you on losing the weight you want to lose.  

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« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2020, 07:56:31 PM »
@EOTE congratulations, and you are a good example of what can be!
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« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2020, 09:01:17 PM »
Doc I would join you but my last doctor appointment she said I should take metformin I said no I don't like taking pills so I started my own diet substituted stevia for sugar no sweet rolls reduce the amount of potatoes I eat and bread and have gone from 185 to 178 want to hit 170 so not to much further to go I  am 5 foot 9 and I am pretty active once summer comes losing weight will not be a problem

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« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2020, 09:08:34 PM »
@randy d  you are welcome to give us your tricks, to help others.  feel free to follow along and congrats on your success.  I am doing this for myself.  there may be others that can learn form you all that have turned things around.
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