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Re: How Do I check to see if Trailer brake ontroller is working?
« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2020, 07:56:04 AM »
At full slide a good controller will pass full input voltage. Probably 13.4ish at idle.

Put your meters on beep mode.  Scratch the trailer with one probe and the receiver frame with the other.  If you dont have a beep you dont have good ground.  

Dim trailer lighting is almost always solved by running a small wire all the way from the negative battery post to the female plug then a ground wire from the male plug to the chassis.  I try to never rely on steel chassis for grounding.  Ill run wires and lug them to the mounting bolt if its designed for chassis grounding [1 wire bulbs]
I also wire both sides of the trailer and solder everything. N.Y. is a salt state.

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Re: How Do I check to see if Trailer brake ontroller is working?
« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2020, 07:59:55 PM »
I figured it out today and the issue is in the trailer, I used a volt meter and a test light and everything on the truck side is working as it should and with the test light the controller also lit up.

Now I need to figure out how to wire the trailer up correctly.
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Re: How Do I check to see if Trailer brake ontroller is working?
« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2020, 09:10:42 PM »
new trailer stuff includes the plug and wire, that goes into a "connection box" so you can then send wire to all the appropriate lights, and brakes.  thanks for the update!  I have tried conduit for trailer, but not yet a plan I can pass on.  nice to protect the wires
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Re: How Do I check to see if Trailer brake ontroller is working?
« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2020, 09:42:23 PM »
Is there a Kit? Any pointers on where and what to get?
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Re: How Do I check to see if Trailer brake ontroller is working?
« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2020, 06:31:14 AM »
i added the trailer control to one of my fords. the control is a little over $200. the wiring harness is already on the truck. then its snap it in thats the easy part. then the dealer has to program it. that was $50

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Re: How Do I check to see if Trailer brake ontroller is working?
« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2020, 07:13:16 AM »
I am sure you can get kits. but they are usually very generic and are usually crimp connectors. In our wonderful salty state I would highly recommend solder and shrink wrap!

Or another wonderful thing that has recently made commercial production, Solderless solder connectors

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« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2020, 08:13:13 AM »
Is there a Kit? Any pointers on where and what to get?
etrailer.com is where I've been going.
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Re: How Do I check to see if Trailer brake ontroller is working?
« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2020, 08:14:49 AM »
I use Redneck trailer for parts.  not sure what you have in you area.  or Amazon

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Re: How Do I check to see if Trailer brake ontroller is working?
« Reply #28 on: August 06, 2020, 08:44:35 AM »
I use Redneck trailer for parts.  not sure what you have in you area.  or Amazon

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I have used this also, and if you put your glasses on, everything is marked quite nicely.
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Re: How Do I check to see if Trailer brake ontroller is working?
« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2020, 11:11:25 AM »
with the box, it gives a place to start with where the problem is.  if power goes to box, it is on the trailer.  if no power in box, but to the vehicle plug, it is prob. the trailer plug.
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Re: How Do I check to see if Trailer brake ontroller is working?
« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2020, 11:59:21 AM »
That's a good looking thing, Doc.  Something like that coupled with  good quality wiring and soldered connections on the trailer end of things should be nice and dependable.  

I hate trailer wiring.  Factory wiring is usually suspect because they're cutting every corner they can.  Lot's of important tips in the previous posts.  A little time spent initially will make life easier in the future.

Good luck with the wiring.  You got the truck end under control.

I just not a new truck with a built-in factory controller.  In theory it should be plug and play (after a little setup through the fancy screen that is accesses all the stuff).  Haven't hooked up a trailer yet to confirm.

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Re: How Do I check to see if Trailer brake ontroller is working?
« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2020, 09:55:06 PM »
Some of the wiring that used to come on boat trailers was copper coated steel.  It would rust. Rust doesn't conduct electricity the best.

Years ago, I started changing trailer wiring, on new ones while they were still clean, with tinned copper marine wire.  Solder the connections with rosin core solder, and silicone over the joints (that was decades before I ever saw heat shrink tubing).  Solder the end for hookup to the light too.  Run a ground circuit, and don't rely on grounding through the hitch.  I never had trouble with trailer wiring after doing that to one.

I put receptacles in the bed of the truck for pulling goosenecks.  That worked nicely, until I stepped on the wire.  I replaced that setup with the box, and nice factory wired plug, made onto the end of the wire, like Doc posted a picture of.  I like it.  The color coding was correct right off.

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Re: How Do I check to see if Trailer brake ontroller is working?
« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2020, 03:37:19 PM »
How does the following plan sound,
I'll get the Brake kit and the junction box linked to below.
I'll run 10 Ga blue wire to the brakes along with white ground or get a duplex wire in a jacket but I won't run across trailer from brake to brake I'll do a home run to junction box from each side.

I'll then use a 14 gauge duplex jacketed wire and run to each tail light and then a single wire to each marker, I believe the lights are all self grounding. I gues I'll need to run a ground from junction to trailer as well. I think running home runs will eliminate a few splices.


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Re: How Do I check to see if Trailer brake ontroller is working?
« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2020, 03:57:09 PM »
Sounds like a plan. Replacing all the wiring is a good move. I did the brake replacement last year and found corrosion at every connection,  ended up replacing  it all too. I did heatshrink connections and dipped the copper in deox first. I have some of those solderless connectors now.
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Re: How Do I check to see if Trailer brake ontroller is working?
« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2020, 03:58:31 PM »
I welded little conduit tabs to hold metal conduit on my uncles trailer I "helped" him build.  worked ok to protect wires.  just another idea if you are using angle and not able to route wires in a protected frame.
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Re: How Do I check to see if Trailer brake ontroller is working?
« Reply #35 on: August 08, 2020, 10:09:03 AM »
I have a buddy that recently redid all the trailer wiring on his. he actually got a long 12/3 extension cord and used that. Really nice since the wire is then double jacketed. It was partially run in conduit where the conduit was still intact (rust belt) But the rest was just ziptied under the frame. He did a nice job on the wiring but then cheaped out and used crimp connectors. Every one of them is corroded already and will begin failing in short order :(

don't be afraid to use dielectric grease. If I had to redo a trailer I would solder all the joints then cover them in dielectric grease then shrink wrap over the top of it all. It should create an envelope that will take many years for the salt to seep its way in and ruin the wires.

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Re: How Do I check to see if Trailer brake ontroller is working?
« Reply #36 on: August 08, 2020, 11:13:19 PM »
All of a sudden one day my trailer brakes would lock up. Dealer said my brakes needed adjustment. I screwed around with them all weekend with not luck. Called dealer and said I think my controller is no good. He said no way. Had two friends come over with their trucks and trailer worked fine on their trucks. I knew that the brakes were not that touchy. Put a new controller on and all worked fine.


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