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Re: New tier 4 diesels on woodmizers
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2021, 08:28:21 PM »
I'd like to see Woodmizer offer thr Stage 4, Tier 4 Volvo Penta engine as a power option. That engine the best Tier 4 engine available right now in my opinion. It is so clean and efficient it doesn't even need a regen system.

https://www.volvopenta.com/industrial/benefits/emission-technology/stage-iv/

I have run a couple of them in Volvo and JCB machines. They are impressive all around and economical.    
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Re: New tier 4 diesels on woodmizers
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2021, 10:45:41 PM »
I run .055 x 1.5 Turbos for everything.  Also, I canít tell a dimes worth of difference between the WM Double Hards or the WM Silvertips, which I guess are just single hards.  

Wait, there is a difference.  The Silvertips very rarely fatigue crack and they are $23 each instead of $42 each.  

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Re: New tier 4 diesels on woodmizers
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2021, 10:48:55 PM »
My Cook's AC36 has a 57 hp Perkins engine and I can find no mention of any "regen" in the manual and have not seen or noticed any difference in its' operation in 290 hours. I reserve the right to be wrong. I thought I was wrong once, but was mistaken.
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Re: New tier 4 diesels on woodmizers
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2021, 10:50:48 PM »
Correction---67 hp Perkins. I feel better now that I broke the ice!
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Re: New tier 4 diesels on woodmizers
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2021, 07:28:46 AM »
I run .055 x 1.5 Turbos for everything.  Also, I canít tell a dimes worth of difference between the WM Double Hards or the WM Silvertips, which I guess are just single hards.  

Wait, there is a difference.  The Silvertips very rarely fatigue crack and they are $23 each instead of $42 each.  

The LT70 Super has engine driven hydraulics, and the speed of the hydraulics can be controlled, to a point.  If the engine is in idle, the hydros run at about the same speed as a Super.  However, if throttled up, the hydros run many times faster.  
I get blades 60 at a time, 15% off with free shipping.  Those not familiar this is standard Woodmizer quantity pricing.
The Doublehard 195 055 1.5 blades come out to $30.68 each.
Silvertip and Kasco equivalents are about $27 each. 
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Re: New tier 4 diesels on woodmizers
« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2021, 08:55:33 AM »
Thatís a lot cheaper than Iím getting the Double Hards, although I havenít bought any in a awhile.  

Iíd have to say, and this is what Iím thinking right now, so my opinion can change tomorrow, if I could get Double Hards and Silvertips at the same price, Iíd still probably run Silvertips.  The money I lose on DH fatigue breaks tearing up my band wheel belts even more offsets the costs and makes the Silvertips more attractive.

I really think the double hardening process makes them much more fatigue prone after several sharpenings.  

This is still an experiment in progress, but so far so good.  

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Take steps to save steps.

If it wonít roll, its not a log; itís still a tree.  Sawmills cut logs, trees.

Kiln drying wood: When the cookies are burned, theyíre burned, and you canít fix them.  So donít burn the cookies.

Sawing is fun for the first couple hundred boards.

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Re: New tier 4 diesels on woodmizers
« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2021, 09:23:42 AM »
I will probably try some silvertips on my next blade purchase.
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Re: New tier 4 diesels on woodmizers
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2021, 07:59:22 AM »
Mr. YH
I'm running the 1.25 x .042 t7 silver tips hard in frozen red pine and ash that's been on the ground 2 years.
I won't buy another Double hard.
The silver tips cut great for me. I buy them for $16 .00 for a lt 40 wide. 
I don't use them for anything over 24" wide.
I go to a 1.5 x .050 x 8 į
Or frost notch 1.25 x .50 x 7.5į
The .050 most alway break after one sharpening. 
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Re: New tier 4 diesels on woodmizers
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2021, 04:08:51 PM »
Bruno, thatís good information. Thank you.  
YellowHammerisms:

Take steps to save steps.

If it wonít roll, its not a log; itís still a tree.  Sawmills cut logs, trees.

Kiln drying wood: When the cookies are burned, theyíre burned, and you canít fix them.  So donít burn the cookies.

Sawing is fun for the first couple hundred boards.


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