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Re: Woodmizer lead time ridiculous. Looking for alternatives
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2021, 06:40:19 PM »
I speculate that this bubble is just like all other tulip bulb frenzies that came before it. Wait a year, itll be going the opposite direction and people will be begging you to take over payments on their like new WM
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« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2021, 08:26:44 PM »
Which is why the mill manufacturers aren't really increasing capacity, even if they were able to find more staff / space. 12 months down the track the bubble bursts and they are left with a new factory to pay for and staff getting laid off. 

If you think the demand was a long term thing, then you try and increase production. If it's just a "blip", you just carry on best you can.
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« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2021, 09:07:42 PM »
The firearm industry went way in debt on big expansions to accomodate an expected hillary win in 16 that backfired bigtime and brought the trump slump.. Guns were sold near cost just to get them off the inventory rolls. Theyd smartened up after the obama boom and went to as many low wage temps as possible rather than a permanent crew with bennies.

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« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2021, 09:12:46 PM »
I am feeling lucky I found a used 2010 lt40 hydraulic with 135 hours on it.  It had a few issues due to lack of use but was basically new and kept in a barn.

Tried milling a huge walnut log on it for the first time today.  Ended up splitting it in half with the chainsaw after a lot of wrestling with a loader.  Gorgeous wood.
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« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2021, 10:08:49 PM »
I was told last week by one of the workers at Woodmizer that they're working 24 hours a day.

I found my LT15 on Facebook Marketplace.

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Re: Woodmizer lead time ridiculous. Looking for alternatives
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2021, 01:01:59 AM »
I'm hoping to ride the ol' '97 out through all of this and then update on the backside when all the used mills start to flood the market😁
I like this idea and will be watching for a Lt40 super wide or even a wide 50 👍🏻
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« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2021, 05:25:45 AM »
I work in a hardware store, getting stock and people who want to work into the store is VERY hard at this time. I have empty pegs and shelves through out the whole store. Not just me because of a small store. Had a customer that walked in and asked me if I have pvc outlet boxes. Yes, I said. He said good, because home depot has none. Now a week later, I can not get any.
Phone will ring for certain items and I know what they are doing, calling bunches of places trying to find a certain item. Good luck I tell them.
Than I have the customer that tells me I will order them off from your online store.  ::)   We are the online store!!!!
Most don't understand, someone has to make the product than businesses buy the product and gets it in the stores. No one making it, no one can buy it.
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Re: Woodmizer lead time ridiculous. Looking for alternatives
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2021, 07:23:14 AM »
frankly i really don't mind waiting, this is along term project.
 After looking at used equipment, i decided that it would be better to start with new 
stuff rather than something which has who knows what done to it. i could have ordered it the first week an January and be picking it up in two weeks, from today. but after doing more research I'm glad id not gone that route.
  i do think there will be a glut of used mills in two years. along with all the other stuff 
people borrowed money to have.  the amount of new trucks,rv's, boats, sxs, an other consumer goods i see daily is staggering. Most of these mills will be bought as for  hobby an as soon as people figure out its actual work they'll be done. Americans have a short attention span. The portable sawmill has become a consumer good not apiece of equipment for a business generally, not unlike the compact tractor.   

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« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2021, 08:18:29 AM »
I know of an LT50 perkapillar for sale near me.
He reportedly has an offer but if it doesnt sell I will pay the fee and advertise here for him.
I dont think he is on this forum.
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Re: Woodmizer lead time ridiculous. Looking for alternatives
« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2021, 08:28:52 AM »
Here's a good example I had a couple days ago.  A guy calls me from Florida and ask me if I sold sawmills.  I said, no, but why but does he ask?  He said he was building a huge house and was nearly $100,000 overrun because of the price of lumber and he wanted a small "starter" mill to saw his own lumber and finish his house.  He had some pine trees growing on the back yard, and was going to turn them into a house, PDQ.  He had no other plan than that, just that a sawmill would magically make lumber appear, so he wanted to buy one.

If many of the people who buy mills have the same mind set, then there will be an equally large surplus at the end of this and there will be lots of sawmills for sale with barely scratched paint.  I call it the toilet paper syndrome. The stuff was suddenly impossible to get, but people weren't pooping any more than usual.  It's just the way things are.



  
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« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2021, 08:29:51 AM »
Pete, that would be a nice gesture, and a good time to sell if he is done with it.
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« Reply #31 on: April 17, 2021, 09:09:11 AM »
 Well finally got the money to buy a mill for this summer. Was going to buy the woodmizer LT15 on a trailer with power feed, or the LT28 with power feed.  They told me 55 weeks on the LT28 or 44 weeks on the LT15.. Why are they even advertising? I have to find something else.  Is this an industry issue? Thoughts on a different equivalent mill? Thanks
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« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2021, 09:15:49 AM »
A guy calls me ........... and ask me if I sold sawmills.
I am getting those calls almost daily.  I offered mine again yesterday for $55K.  
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« Reply #33 on: April 17, 2021, 09:44:12 AM »


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Will look at that. I am in Vermont.

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« Reply #34 on: April 17, 2021, 09:52:59 AM »
I plan to buy one...in a few years, too.

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« Reply #35 on: April 17, 2021, 10:55:35 AM »
MM things are so crazy, I would add 5k to that number every week.  at 75k someone will prob. buy it.  
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« Reply #36 on: April 17, 2021, 12:08:32 PM »


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Will look at that. I am in Vermont.
@squarpeg If I was in the Northeast and shopping for a manual mill the Thomas Band Mills built in Maine would be on my short list. Don't know if their waiting list is any shorter but they build a simple and sturdy mill.

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« Reply #37 on: April 17, 2021, 01:18:45 PM »
This all reminds me of the joke about buying a car in Russia.

Seems a man had worked hard and was diligent with his savings and could finally afford to buy a car. He went to the dealership and bought a car. The dealer told him it would be delivered two years from next Tuesday. The buyer asked if it would be morning or afternoon for the delivery. The dealer asked why it mattered. The buyer said, "because the plumber is coming that morning."
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« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2021, 12:31:13 PM »
I am watching a late model lt40 on the Bigiron auction site.  It is nearly at new price, and has more than 2 weeks to go.  They sold a TK 1220 a few weeks ago for 8600.  About Cooks, called about power feed for my MP32, have yet to hear back.  They must be going crazy there with everyone ordering a mill.
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« Reply #39 on: April 18, 2021, 05:35:25 PM »
Good, fast, cheap...  Pick two.  

I ordered an EZ Boardwalk in January and told July delivery.  I sold my little band mill and a circle mill to appease the bettervhalf, and this would give me something to look forward to after all of these 70-hour weeks I'm putting in at the J.O.B. (Have to put in the hours as the company can't seem to hire anyone. A lot of interviews scheduled, half the people never even show up.  Of the ones that have shown up, most turned down our offer or told us they'd already got another job in the couple days between interview and offer...)

With the overtime not letting up anytime soon, even though it was supposed to, I thought about selling my spot in line... Then I heard new orders place now with EZ Boardwalk are around 12 months out...  Guess I will keep it.    ;D
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