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Re: Any body else putting in a garden?
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2021, 09:14:09 AM »
 I was told by an old mentor of mine not to plant till the ground was 50 for 1 week, peas an potatoes a little earlier. We don't plant a garden anymore as the deer eat it before we can. An deer are just like goats can't keep them in or out  ;D.

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« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2021, 10:20:18 AM »
Yup. today on mothers day. her idea.  ;D

should've been done a month ago, but no time

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Re: Any body else putting in a garden?
« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2021, 03:32:35 PM »
Does anyone have good books or advice for starting out with gardening? Ive never had the best green thumb and wanted to build a decent sized box garden. Ive been planning on doing basic stuff for the summer, things like tomatoes, peppers, basil, oregano, etc. 

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« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2021, 03:33:28 PM »
Yup. today on mothers day. her idea.  ;D

should've been done a month ago, but no time
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« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2021, 03:35:00 PM »
I was told by an old mentor of mine not to plant till the ground was 50 for 1 week, peas an potatoes a little earlier. We don't plant a garden anymore as the deer eat it before we can. An deer are just like goats can't keep them in or out  ;D.
Deer are big problem for me as well. Always a running battle to see who will get most of the sweet corn.
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Re: Any body else putting in a garden?
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2021, 03:42:38 PM »
Does anyone have good books or advice for starting out with gardening? Ive never had the best green thumb and wanted to build a decent sized box garden. Ive been planning on doing basic stuff for the summer, things like tomatoes, peppers, basil, oregano, etc.


make the box deeper than you think and fill the base with leaves, grass, decomposing hardwoods etc.. and dump some watered down mollasses on it.  this is to promote mycorhiza.. a white stringy fungus that breaks down organic matter and mates with the root system of your crop plants to provide them with nutrients in exchange for carbohydrates that the plant is happy to give up.  its a symbiotic, mutually beneficial partnership that grows strong, resilient plants.  mycorhiza is how they grow giant pumpkins and such. 


the extra space down bottom also leaves voids for oxygen and ensures good drainage of the soil up above in the event of downpours and such.



now above your crop.. always cover the soil.  you need shade to prevent the sun from evaporating all the moisture out.  growth rates are 100% correlated to soil moisture content.  dry soil is dead.  the microorganisms that decompose organic matter simply need moisture.  so you can use about anything you want that was once alive.  it can be grass clippings, sawdust, leaves, newpapers, cardboard, bark mulch.  any sort of cover around your plant stems that will act as a sun shade for the dirt.  you dont water plants.. you water dirt. when you water plants you start getting fungal issues all over.  when you water dirt and keep the foliage dry you are gonna have much better success.



you dont need much space.  i have only had absolutely jam packed gardens where a brick between plants to step on is all the available space there is.  in a tiny plot, it makes sense to over seed so you can then select the strongest things that pop up and cull the weaklings.  culling is part of nature so dont get attached.  4 strong plants will outproduce 8 anemic ones.
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Re: Any body else putting in a garden?
« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2021, 01:21:59 PM »
Red bells for the garden. Nothing goes in the ground until mid June up here. ;D





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« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2021, 06:09:05 PM »
A little snow/mix today, 'nuff of that!
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« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2021, 06:42:37 PM »
I like the looks of them!!!
I might have to start mine own. Most years I can get some big plants. Seem like the green houses we have been too started them late.  :(  One good size green house did not open and another small one has close due to health problems.  :(
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Re: Any body else putting in a garden?
« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2021, 07:00:21 PM »
Finally gettin taters in. 2 months late...... :o
Still have some more to put in. Prolly tomorrow




 

 

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« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2021, 07:34:37 PM »
Finally gettin taters in. 2 months late...... :o
Still have some more to put in. Prolly tomorrow



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S.H. it looks like you have grown spuds there before a time a two.  Whats it produce, pounds wise?
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Re: Any body else putting in a garden?
« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2021, 07:54:12 PM »
I just stripped the row covers as the weather is warming.Looking forward to a garden this year.

 
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« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2021, 08:59:33 PM »
peas up planted beans today picking aspargras for 2 weeks
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Re: Any body else putting in a garden?
« Reply #33 on: May 12, 2021, 09:28:41 PM »
Finally gettin taters in. 2 months late...... :o
Still have some more to put in. Prolly tomorrow



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S.H. it looks like you have grown spuds there before a time a two.  Whats it produce, pounds wise?
Indeed I have. Failures last 2 years. Blight wiped us out. I've planted blight resistant, so we'll see. I will be spraying though also

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Re: Any body else putting in a garden?
« Reply #34 on: May 12, 2021, 11:33:39 PM »
40 here right now, my guess is it will get to 35 tonight.  Rained the other day so still have not been able to turn the soil, about right again so maybe in the next day or so.  Nice to have a spring for a change actually.  Garden not so happy, but boy oh boy my pastures are loving this.  
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« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2021, 03:40:25 PM »
Suppose to be a little wet this weekend, showers, not steady rain. But Might be able to get the onions in the small garden. Only take me about 10 minutes to work up the bed, then poke'm in. ;D It really struggles to get to 60F here, cold wind. The flies aren't even warm enough to bite ya. They crawl up under the hard hat to get warm. ;) :D
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« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2021, 04:51:14 PM »
i left last falls garden as is overwinter.  just tore through the weeds and found ive got several lettuce types, a potato plant and swiss chard coming well established.  theres also winter wheat i never planted  :D

kale and turnip has come back to life and bolted to seed too.  i guess they want to try again. 
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« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2021, 06:18:41 PM »
Oh, I've got parsnips 14 inches tall in the garden and I pulled about 2 dozen onions from last year that never froze out.  Onions are as tough as tulip bulbs, I can guarantee ya that. ;D Parsnip is left in to winter up here, they are much sweeter in the spring. That stuff in the stores is like chewing on wood, no taste and all pulpy. And they want a buck a piece for that crap, good lord. ;D
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« Reply #38 on: May 15, 2021, 11:43:45 AM »
I still have another year before planting.  Been cutting down the Ailanthus (Tree of Heaven) along the edge and, to get rid of the wood, have been burying it.  I'll dig down about 2 feet, lay in the branches, mill cutoffs, and anything/everything I can get that's woody.  Then I'll put back on the sod upside down, then backfill.  On top I will till in sawdust, chips, and mulch.  I figure it will be several years to start to decompose, but it's like money in the bank.  It's a version of Hugelkulture. 

Also need to connect the water storage tank to the downspout and plumb the outlets.  Should be ready by next year.

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« Reply #39 on: May 15, 2021, 01:09:36 PM »
If youve got forest leaf litter and duff around rake some of that up too.  It will help get the decomposition started as well as develop micorhiza.  Try not to bury it too deep or itll go anaerobic. 
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