I've been kicking around the idea of putting together a grapple trailer that I can tow with my pickup. Was wondering who has one and what brand is it. I'm thinking about finding a nice 14k lb deck over trailer and mounting a small log loader to it similar to blue ox, metavic jms brands. I can think of many task that I would use it and have wanting to put one together for a long time.
I will send you a PM, of an OFF-THE-SHELF rig -> similar to the one I have, but by a different manufacturer
yeah thats along the line of what im talking about. I would want a flat deck so i could haul a small skidder or tractor if needed. I would want a longer reach to around 16'-17' reach.
Just to let you know the trailer was HEAVY, took the springs out of the back of a 1/2 ton truck. Not quite thru the bed, but after a year or so of occasional use the back end of the truck got VERY soft
Pretty sure you have a thread discussing this already.
Mines a jms. Decent loader. I tow with a dually one ton diesel. Id be scared towing with a single wheel one ton, fyi. Think gooseneck if going that route.
yeah mines a single wheel but it tows my 10k lb trailer with tractor just fine. i cant really see much of an advantage with duel wheel if your just towing a trailer.
I have a anderson with a 14k dump trailer.
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I have a JMS purchased through Baileys. 15 ft deck, 17 ft boom reach, 13,000 lbs gross. I added a 12k lb Milemarker winch w/ 100 ft of cable to pull logs close enough to reach with boom.
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Dr buck that's what I want to put together. I want to buy a loader and mount it to a trailer of my own. How does that truck handle towing the trailer?
Quote from: logman81 on October 29, 2014, 06:22:08 PM
Dr buck that's what I want to put together. I want to buy a loader and mount it to a trailer of my own. How does that truck handle towing the trailer?
Never had a problem other than one time I was most likely over weight and my brake controller had an issue. smiley_furious
I have a blue ox little ox 7 ton. only broke the loader twice in 7 years, it is a nice machine with low insurance and high value
I have a metavic off road that is nothing but usefull around the sawmill, I think it is a 1050. It is small but way a workhorse.
My little Wallenstein would be too small for what you want.
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Quote from: logman81 on October 29, 2014, 05:25:15 PM
yeah mines a single wheel but it tows my 10k lb trailer with tractor just fine. i cant really see much of an advantage with duel wheel if your just towing a trailer.
Duals help with breaking ,cornering and gvw's. Those are some nice set ups! Work/drive safe!
Yeah wallys world that would be a little small for me. Thanks to all of you for sharing the info. Timberline thanks for clarifying that for me. I'll Most Likely Be Fine With Pulling One. Any one have a sillvahill brand of trailer seem to be nicely built.
DR_Buck, it appears as your dodge has a bit of a squat with that load of logs on the trailer. ;D That was the reason I when from 1/2 ton to 1 ton with duals; also I can now pull bigger trailers, ;), but at 12mpg (OUCH)
That's a Ford not a dodge seems fine to me.
Logman you are correct, I was only 1 cup of coffee in, was not awake yet when I posted.
Those trailers are cool, I've never seen anything like them. I thought the thread would be about self-loading log trucks and trailers, full size for the road.
Quote from: LittleJohn on October 30, 2014, 08:34:55 AM
DR_Buck, it appears as your dodge has a bit of a squat with that load of logs on the trailer. ;D That was the reason I when from 1/2 ton to 1 ton with duals; also I can now pull bigger trailers, ;), but at 12mpg (OUCH)
Yep., a Ford. F350 SRW. Worked fine for everything except my new 16K gross 5th wheel camper. Replaced it with a F450 dually a few months ago.
I'll be getting the quote for the trailer/loader combo tomorrow.
let me go get some pictures, all old but both trailers still do yeomans work almost daily
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A few more
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Thanks wood mills things are handy aren't they.
There all very handy for sure. would not want to be without.
David l
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Can you turn the seat on your Valtra David and run it from the tractor?
Just dreaming .
I could use one of them soooo bad.
Im going to be rear mounting mine this winter. This trailer saves me soo much time and labor. Cheap to run.
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Im impressed with the size of the stuff you guys are picking, and how much your getting on one of those trailers. :o my forwarder only averages 3.5 cord / 2mbft.
When I sell log length my customers end up with 2.25-2.5 cd. No overhang on the 15' deck
I'm impressed to some of those logs are good size. You say you sell log length and get about 2.5 cords on it that's awesome. One of the reasons for me wanting to get one is to sell log length to customers. Nice pictures!
Lopet, yes the tractor seat turns but I have not set up a holder for the crane controls. wish i could afford electric over hydraulic. My kelsa trailer holds two cords of straight 12' roundwood. the crane can pick up some pretty large logs if done right.
David l
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This log impressed me yesterday. 20"+ small end. 25"+ big end. 18'6" long. Spruce but still not an issue for a used loader that needs some love.
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OK, Now I have to go out and use my drey skidder, cause I want to post a picture of my grapple trailer. :D :D
Got the quote this morning, a little more then I expected!
Yep. A good metavic will be 35$k +. Jms about 25k+.
That's why I think there aren't many out there. I know a goose that might come up for sale. But expect to give 18k
Quote from: brendonv on October 31, 2014, 11:42:29 AM
Yep. A good metavic will be 35$k +. Jms about 25k+.
That's why I think there aren't many out there. I know a goose that might come up for sale. But expect to give 18k
Thats the thing, if you have 1 small truck you can justify that. 35k gets a new pitts log trailer and a nice used loader, but I know most guys dont like the tractor headaches. 1380.00 a few weeks ago just for 1 yr registration. Not the overwidth permit, just registration. :o
Yeah got a quote of just over 27k. I'm not sure if it's worth the price or not? I don't have a goose neck setup so that wouldn't work for me.
After owning one I'd buy a new one if I had to. Would hard to justify the money never using it prior. My trailer cost $95 for five year reg. I blew a tire this year that was $300. Owned it for probably five years that's all I've done to it. Actually one trailer plug.
So in your option it's well worth the investment.
If you buy a grapple trailer get the beefiest grapple offered. I have a 10ton JMS similar to DR Buck's. It costs $400 to plate it each year. When I need the trailer it is priceless but it still hurts to put plates on it every year. I bought the 10ton because I thought I might load my JD450C crawler on it on occasion. Did not do that because the deck height is such that I would have had to put an extensive beaver tail on it and the length would have been unwieldy. Plus I still would have needed a way to stow the arm.
Logman 81, if you have a 3/4 ton truck it doesn't take much to install a ball for a gooseneck. Trust me they pull better than a bumper pull and your weight is over your axel. Ed
That spruce that you lifted on weighs about 1700lbs!
I often wish I would have gone the gooseneck route. The maneuverability is far superior with a gooseneck.
Found a sillvahill hill demo unit for sale? I contacted them to see if it's still available.
How much do you wanna spend?
Well that's a good question, as little as possible lol! I've got to sell the skidder first then I'll have some money to spend.
I too am impressed what you guys can pick up . Member bill m I think has a metavik and moves huge logs too. Just thinking, those arms lifting this big logs means the steel must flex quite a bit. :o
bill m's unit is strictly an off road unit. His has the four wheel drive option, and I think the hydraulic pivot option. He has moved some large 16' white pine butt logs with it. Very impressed.
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Patu 575 loader, I think its a 7T trailer if I remember right. Got it used.
Also have a 205 loader on a homebuild trailer.
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Why do I have two? Because I have a problem. My names Ron and I cant pass on equipment at a "good" price!
Well Ron, Thats just how I feel on good deals. Snatch them up or somebody else will.
David l
I bent a grapple on a forwarder holding on to the frame like that
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It was a bad day :( My machine rode up on a tall stump, and then the tracks slid off the stump and the machine landed on the stump, with the jaw of the bucket taking the hit. It was a fluke, but I don't carry it like that anymore for sure.
you guys are making me chomp at the bit! :D I need and want one so bad. Those are some nice trailers for sure and you probably are always finding new ways to use them.
And I thought you can only bend bars ;D. Sorry couldn't resist that one barbender.
What did you do ? Swap buckets and fix it apart in the shop ? I usually ride with mine grabbed between the 3rd - 4th bunk on the frame.
I swapped buckets, and the boss decided to part it out- even though it was a fairly new grapple, a new jaw was about half the price of a new one. He has 7 or 8 forwarders, so the parts will get put into service quickly. I was holding onto the frame like you describe when that happened, between the 3rd and 4th bunks. I didn't even realize it happened, I just knew that the stump I hit was about 30" high, tall enough to scrape the bellypan. If I would have just drove into it I don't think it would have bent, it was the fact I fell off it with the wheels and the weight of the machine landed on it. If you don't have large rocks and you don't leave unreasonably tall stumps, you should be just fine.
Lopet- that is a good observation ;D However, "everythingbender" didn't have the same ring to it when I was looking for a username ;D
The price of these units is why I don't have one. It would be great for our tree service but seems like for the cost a forwarder could get around the woods a little better ,at least in our situations. I want one!
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@timberlinetree (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=18754). I am working in Tyringham, about 30 minutes from Blanford. You should come out to my job and see for yourself the capabilities of one of these trailers. You might change your mind.
Bill. Did blue ox go out of business? I remember they used to have a website. There is no trace of them on the web anymore.
USED!!!
$14k for the unit with the factory trailer. Whats that half the price of new? The other one I got for $5k less then what the loader costs new, and it was only used for one guy to clear about 10 acres.
I was wondering if blue ox went out of business myself? You got a good deal on those toys!
I think they have gone out. They used to be a Forum sponsor, but it has been quite a few years.
I can't find them anywhere. Yes, it looks like they are out of business. To bad, they made good equipment
My blue ox is the only piece of equipment i have that I bought new, and I would do it again ina minute. Insurance is low, it is very manuverable, very rugged and well built. Max fire wood load has been over 4 cords, a new customer cut split and stacked his first delivery seperate to see what he was getting. Best log delivery was 2900 bd ft pine, with 16 and 12 length on the trailer and 8 and 10 on the truck, measured at the concentration yard.
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Local lad has this nice little rig. Make is "Chargo". Built in Quebec somewhere.
Thanks bill m. I appreciate the offer but just don't have the time right now. For some these are the perfect set up and work real well. We kinda took a look into these but buying the tractor and trailer was out of our reach. I was also wondering how they work in deep snow? One thing is for shure, they can lift some wood and are real handy to have. I like all the pics,those are some nice units!
With 8 wheel drive mine goes through deep snow just about as good as a skidder. Some times even better.
Going to be tough to find parts for them.
Kodiakmac, once again I will say, that is some fine white cedar ;)
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This was a JMS 900, and why I would tell you to buy the beefyest loader you can afford.
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main boom has 24" extention and larger piston.
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stick has a 16" extention larger piston, the top link rebuilt.
This was done two yrs ago and the pin & hole between main and stick booms are all wore out again.The main problem with both my loader and trailer were built with 1/4" material to start.
Think you just got to use it within the design and limits of the machine. Not saying that you don't but if your easy on stuff you can usually avoid most break downs.
Found a dealer demo sillvahill trailer with noka loader might be a good way to save a little money.
How much.
Not sure yet I haven't pursued it much as I haven't sold the skidder yet.
Wow.
Heres your old identical thread btw.
https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=66310.0
A metavic trailer just came up for sale in nh.
logman why you wanna sell your skidder again? I thought you like that TJ.
I do like it but I'm getting out of logging. Just going to do whole sale firewood for the most part. Pick up three large firewood producers that need me to supply them with wood. So don't need it anymore.
Don't wanna sound negative but I doubt that your trucking cost per cord is less than the one from a guy who hauls 14-16 cord at a time. Those firewood producer only buy logs of you as long you're cheaper than big guys. I think that will be a tough going. Just my opinion.
I'm getting the same price as them, they are willing to pay for it because they can't find anyone else to supply them with logs. I'll also sell to home owners and need about thirty cord for my out door furnace yearly. If I had logging jobs I would continue to work in the woods but I dont. See a need fill a need!
Where are you going to source the wood if you're not producing it yourself ???
Lots of people giving it away and I'll buy it off other loggers landings. This is all just thought at the moment. With no work in site and getting getting very frustrated trying to find a trucker to move a big skidder is very frustrating. I have several sources for wood, one guy has to very large property's close by that is very willing to let me take wood out. Also will get it from tree service and and storm clean up's. Finding wood won't be an issue trust me!
Don't know how I did this without one, a real back saver,and the custom jobs are money makers. Logman, good luck. Used ones are out there.
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David l
There's three within a three hour drive of me. Just can't seem to get this skidder sold!
Im just wondering. So your going to pickup/buy logs, haul two maybe three cords at a time. Go home, cut, split with a small hydro splitter, reload the truck then unload the truck? Expect to make a buck?
No cutting or splitting sell tree length.
Is it possible to to register one of these trailers for a lesser gvw?
Why would you want to do that????
So I don't need a cdl to tow one.
Quote from: logman81 on November 04, 2014, 09:10:06 PM
Is it possible to to register one of these trailers for a lesser gvw?
That won't make a difference as to needing a CDL or not. D. O. T. doesn't care what it's registered for...unless of course you weigh more than that. Then they'll grin twice as big, and you'll cuss twice as much while they're writing.
You would actually be giving them a whole new category to write you up for. I remember being written up on one ticket for "Over Gross, Over Axle Steering, Over Driver Front, Over Driver Rear, Over Trailer Front, Over Trailer Rear". Now you're going to add "Over Registration Weight" to all of the above fun. :D
Ed K - That's a great job you did modifying your trailer! After having met you, I can see you take good care of your equipment and run it smoothly... Logman - You're confusing me :-\ Work safe out there everyone!
So I can take a trailer that has a gvw of 18,000 and register it for 14,000 so I can have a combined weight under 26k. Just make sure I'm not over that weight and I wont have a issue if I understand this right.
Logman, I agree with some of the above comments...you are all over the place, man. Stay the course....Tortoise and the hare.....in the woods business, that get rich quick, pot of gold doesn't exist. I cut with a skidder and hardy forwarder trailer for a long time. They are awesome, great little rigs. That being said-they are not the answer for making money and being productive as a stand alone unit. Use them hard and you will be fabricating on it constantly. Hard to pull them in the snow, mud, hard ground, jack knife on ice....etc. etc. I pulled mine with a chained up 540b and was a horror show at times. Again-they are AWESOME rigs-as long as HIGH PRODUCTION is not the goal. JMHO.
Also, you got the better part of the skidder trade-can't believe you are turning around and selling that grapple! Seems like you have had a skidder a year....
An old timer once told me "when you make a big business decision, give it 5 yrs to work out or not." I honestly think he was pretty right on.
Not trying to offend, logman just some thoughts.
Again, JMHO.
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Logman, I agree with some of the above comments...you are all over the place, man.
I didn't want to say it, but agree. Sorry. From firewood processor, to different skidder, to log trailer? Pick one, give it some time and do it. I don't think I'm this savy business man type. I like climbing trees and cutting wood, and have a built up a good name and equip. I can't imagine a trailer making a buck. Sure, haul your own wood, do a little firewod to offset the logging. By itself it's useless. Mine works great for me, I haul short wood from tree removal sites to my customers yard. I don't make good money doing it, just some extra cash for goodies or take the lady out. These are residential
Jobs, like a tree or three. I say it again, good luck
I'm done here thanks!
Quote from: logman81 on November 05, 2014, 06:25:51 AM
So I can take a trailer that has a gvw of 18,000 and register it for 14,000 so I can have a combined weight under 26k. Just make sure I'm not over that weight and I wont have a issue if I understand this right.
They don't look at registered weight, they look at the tag weight. If the trailer is 18,000, they add that to the door tag of the truck. You can't legally tow an 18,000 trailer with an 8,000 truck, so you are Class A, no question about it.
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I'm done here thanks!
You're done here? Why, because you asked for advice, and got it? Every post that I read here was polite and respectful. Just because it wasn't what you wanted to hear is no reason to leave. :-\
Brendonv, how come a guy with a trailer and grapple, reliable source of cheap or free wood, couldn't make some good money. Even cutting up with a chainsaw and running through a splitter, it seems like a guy could clear a couple hundred a day with less headache. Providing a good back and a place to process it, seems like a good deal, even though there are easier ways to make a buck.
Let's assume you do have a "reliable and free" source of wood. Now you have to have your truck and trailer, saws etc. How many cords of log length can you consistently deliver in a week? I think it would be hard to make it work just loading it out of a pile and delivering it, never mind getting the trees down or out of wherever they are and to your trailer then delivering it.
Agree with the man upstairs.
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Quote from: logman81 on November 05, 2014, 06:25:51 AM
So I can take a trailer that has a gvw of 18,000 and register it for 14,000 so I can have a combined weight under 26k. Just make sure I'm not over that weight and I wont have a issue if I understand this right.
They don't look at registered weight, they look at the tag weight. If the trailer is 18,000, they add that to the door tag of the truck. You can't legally tow an 18,000 trailer with an 8,000 truck, so you are Class A, no question about it.
Not sure I buy that. GCWR isnt even on some of my vehicle door tags. Got an idea over axle has something to do with it also... alot of one tons pulling smaller skidders around legally that probably dont have 26,000 GCWR on the door. An 8,000 GCWR is barely legal for towing a boat evidently...
If thats the case, how do you find the GCWR on a 1 ton that doesnt have it on the door tag?
GCWR isn't listed, but GVW is. You can register a 60,000 pound truck for 26,000, but it's still a Class B license. They don't care what the registration says, only the door tag.
GCWR is listed in the owner's manual of my '99 Dodge 2500 Cummins, which was 20,000 max GCWR. I don't know what a DOT officer would look at if he had the truck pulled over. I know a new Dodge 3500 has a max of 37,500 with the Cummins/auto.
So a one ton dually with a gvw of 10k is whatever weight truck plus TONGUE weight providing it doesnt go over axle and over 26k gcwr for class c?
State of maine title 29 a sec 2353 has some crap about 2 axle gcwr being a max of 34k lbs. Also 1k lb reduction for each foot of axle to axle distance less then 18'. That plus the tire contact pressure rule doesnt set the gcwr?
I heard about a tag on a 1 ton actually is legal for 54k because of the way the rules are. Know one such truck exists in central ME. The old man asked the staties about it because he was thinking it over.
Class A is a combination vehicle with a gross combination of 26,001 or greater, provided the trailer is 10,001 or greater.
Class B is a single of combination vehicle 26,001 or greater, provided the trailer is 10,000 or less.
Class C has several different definitions, usually a hazmat or tank vehicle 26,000 or less.
A 10,000 truck with a 16,000 or less trailer (or a 12,000 truck and a 14,000 trailer) would be a Class D here. State laws vary on Class C and D definitions.
Quote from: repmma on November 05, 2014, 05:25:20 PM
So a one ton dually with a gvw of 10k is whatever weight truck plus TONGUE weight providing it doesnt go over axle and over 26k gcwr for class c?
State of maine title 29 a sec 2353 has some crap about 2 axle gcwr being a max of 34k lbs. Also 1k lb reduction for each foot of axle to axle distance less then 18'. That plus the tire contact pressure rule doesnt set the gcwr?
I heard about a tag on a 1 ton actually is legal for 54k because of the way the rules are. Know one such truck exists in central ME. The old man asked the staties about it because he was thinking it over.
tire size counts. inch width of tread. 11 22.5=12000 on the front axle 12 22.5 13000 and up from there
What would be the problem with carrying a class A? I keep mine (wouldn't want to take the test today) even though I haven't drove for years. I had to get my medical card to renew my license last year, but still good to have.
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Patu 575 loader, I think its a 7T trailer if I remember right. Got it used.
Repmma--Nice looking forwarder!! I resemble that machine :D :D :D
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Also have a 205 loader on a homebuild trailer.
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Why do I have two? Because I have a problem. My names Ron and I cant pass on equipment at a "good" price!
I got the Wheeler Jr by Metavic, Its a great trailer, very strong with the lifting capacity at 2,200 lbs at full reach. I tried to upload a couple pics but can't .
http://www.metavic.ca/en/content/wheeler-junior
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Quote from: repmma on October 31, 2014, 07:33:53 PM
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Patu 575 loader, I think its a 7T trailer if I remember right. Got it used.
Repmma--Nice looking forwarder!! I resemble that machine :D :D :D
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Also have a 205 loader on a homebuild trailer.
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Why do I have two? Because I have a problem. My names Ron and I cant pass on equipment at a "good" price!
Nice!! Good size tractor matched up to it, whats the hp?
@barniescamp (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=8011),I did not see an album for you to down load too. This should get you started. Looks like alot at first,but do it,2-3 times and it gets easier.
https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,61788.0.html
repmma--it's a Case 695, 4WD, with 70 HP. A bit tired but no oil leaks. Had to replace a front case drive shaft oil seal last year but that's all I've done since owning it (keep fingers crossed...). Put too much hydraulic fluid in the tractor and blew out a couple of O rings in the Forwarder but that was a quick repair. How are your forwarders running? I was thinking of getting one for the road but these discussions about DOT and weight restrictions are making me think better of it. Think I'll just plop a few logs at a time onto my 18' trailer and take them 5 mi down the road to the local mill.
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78NHTFY - the homebuilt trailer one I bought had a week mount for the loader, I knew it from the get go but pushed it thru getting my garage lumber out. Now that the garage is weather tight I neef to redo where the loader mounts. It wad built with 1/2 plate which is just too thin. I might take that loader and mount it on the back of a 5th wheel I have for on the road. On the back to help keep the extra weight on the tongue which is probably on the heavy side anyways.
The factory trailer unit is very nice! Cant beat the way it gets thru the woods.
The loaders are practically the same, the one on the factory trailer is older and maybe one size larger but you cant say either one was used hard at all.
Ive got a 63hp Ford 5030 that probably compares well to your case. Ive got work to do on the steering ram, tie rods, bucket ram, bad tube... etc etc. Lots to do before getting to my winter cutting projects.
2007 Silva Hill 19,000# gwr. Two 9,500# axles. Nokka loader with a chair. Don't have the model # off the top of my head. Loader powered by a v-twin air cooled engine. Grapple extends 5'. I like the set up but
am considering upgrading to full-size equipment as my biz grows. Great way to start. With the right operation this is a good set-up.
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Eski,welcome to the forum. Looks good.
Nice set up
Quote from: terry f on November 05, 2014, 03:53:17 PM
Brendonv, how come a guy with a trailer and grapple, reliable source of cheap or free wood, couldn't make some good money. Even cutting up with a chainsaw and running through a splitter, it seems like a guy could clear a couple hundred a day with less headache. Providing a good back and a place to process it, seems like a good deal, even though there are easier ways to make a buck.
Ive been doing this for the last four years. I fell, buck, and sometimes split in the spring/summer then sell/deliver in the fall/winter. Net close to 40k. Im a one man show. I would never drop the $ required for one of these grapple trailers. Mostly because im 100% sure I would destroy it in less then 1 season. I cable yard practically everything I fell and then hire somone with real equipment to pick it up and haul it to my place. 16-18 cords at a time. It can be done. Im doing it. Just not with one of these trailers. Id tear one up quick, being careful.
Quote from: Mtn-Man-Hogany on February 18, 2019, 04:29:06 AM
Quote from: terry f on November 05, 2014, 03:53:17 PMId tear one up quick, being careful.
I have a flex 380 forestry trailer and a loader from Bailey's both have been worked on. The loader has been rebuilt with bigger pistons and the reach has been extended from 9' to 13'6". The trailer needs new bunks all around as the old ones are bent bad. Most of the trailer was built with 3/16" stock. The main beam is 1/4".
I'm picking up a farmi loader locally in next couple weeks for real cheap.
I have an Anderson forestry trailer with power pack and winch. Just got it this fall, but it's been great so far.
Did a fun little video of me salvaging a hemlock with it.
Salvage logging a hemlock tree with the Anderson forestry trailer - YouTube (https://youtu.be/9UK5AJaLdI0)
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I have a Vreten crane and a kelsa 9T trailer. No brakes or drive . I run it behind a Valtra 900. I have to say this and some may disagree but the Scandinavian forestry equipment is nothing but quality. Built to last. The Tractor is pre Agco and totally built in Finland.
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Quote from: repmma on October 31, 2014, 07:33:53 PM
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Patu 575 loader, I think its a 7T trailer if I remember right. Got it used.
Also have a 205 loader on a homebuild trailer.
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Why do I have two? Because I have a problem. My names Ron and I cant pass on equipment at a "good" price!
Dont know what these cost but it wouldnt be hard to build one.
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I run a Nokka 29 trailer & loader behind my timberjack 230. Versatile set up, where I can drop the trailer in minutes and use the skidder alone. It is a small unit that I can still do thinnings with although you have to plan your trails as it does take room to turn.
Finally someone pulling a trailer with a skidder I've been thinking about the same thing one day with my c4b
I just picked this up in January and so for its been great. It's a Nokka 29 loader mounted on a Moritz 14000 gvrw gooseneck using the four pins that normally hold the dove tail on. The previous owner did it this way so that you can remove the loader and reinstall the dove tail to haul equipment if you need too. I was thinking about putting on a bumper pull though so that I can pull it with a dump truck. Has anyone tried rear mounting one on a bumper pull and if so was there enough tongue weight on the hitch when empty?
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