Coiling blades

John Bartley · November 12, 2009, 07:48:20 PM

I no longer coil my blades. I set them inside each other until I get ten of them in a stack, then I put them into a wood case. It takes less room and is much easier to deal with.

cheers

John

Flatheadyoungin · November 12, 2009, 08:29:38 PM

but when you are a chicken........ :D

yeah, i have quite perfected the technique of grimacing, holding my face sideways, leaning back, being ready to run, and throwing the blade at the same time........quite effective....

even though i've only done one sawmill band the rest have been small bandsaw blades :-\ ;D

Magicman · November 12, 2009, 10:39:00 PM

If the customer is there, I tell them to watch closely because I coil the first one and they must do the rest......then watch their eyes pop out....

:D

backwoods sawyer · November 12, 2009, 10:39:32 PM

Throw and run is what you do with a grenade. Doing the same with a saw can be just as dangerous when it jumps back at you. Slow and steady with care and they will unfold with out all the excitement of an alligator chase. Not to mention that you will be able to saw wood with out leaving marks from the bent teeth.
Tom that was a good set of photos showing the complete process.
As for gloves if I have them on then I keep them on, if I do not, then I do not go looking for a pair to put on. The saw is not moving in your hand.
If you are having trouble getting the saw to brake over, hold the saw like Tom is in #5 and push it against the corner of a log being carful not to hook a tooth and take a slow step forward and the saw will brake over.

pineywoods · November 13, 2009, 09:54:47 AM

I still throw and duck.. Ever notice that a thrown blade will uncoil with the teeth down in the dirt at least 90 % of the time?? why ? I coil the bands off my woodmizer without a problem., but I do use welders gloves. Neighbor brings over some blades off a norwood. They are short and I never have gotten the hang of coiling them.

Dodgy Loner · November 13, 2009, 04:16:30 PM

I use the foot-on-the-band method to coil my blades. I tried the method Tom demonstrates and was never able to get the band to fold over. I don't use gloves and it hasn't been a problem. I don't like gloves and never use them, but my dad won't even take a blade off the wheels without gloves on. I also toss the band to uncoil, but we have a lush lawn of bermuda grass that makes it less worrisome as far a damaging the teeth. I think a more controlled method would be nice, but frankly it scares me worse than just tossing them on the grass.

Dan_Shade · November 13, 2009, 07:43:02 PM

like bandmiller said, get a long lawnmower belt. the process is the same to fold it up, and a lot less catastrophic if you make a mistake!

rickywashere · November 15, 2009, 02:38:47 AM

well guys this got me curious and i found this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z45BIMQ3WlM&NR=1

moonhill · November 15, 2009, 07:00:59 AM

Not only did he have gloves but glasses too

Tim

rickywashere · November 15, 2009, 11:34:55 AM

Quote from: moonhill on November 15, 2009, 07:00:59 AM
Not only did he have gloves but glasses too

Tim

thats the only thing i would change if it was me i dont like gloves around any kind of blade to many loose things to get caught .. i guess that comes from my use of a old hand crib block mill ///

Hale87 · November 16, 2009, 09:07:56 AM

I just did the bounce and twist thing yesterday for the first time.

Man was that easy.

Thanks for the tip.......

jwoods · November 17, 2009, 08:15:52 AM

Coiling and uncoiling blades isn't too bad IMO.

My last order of re-sharps from Cooks were flat-packed, 14 blades in a kidney-bean shape (one inside the other) held together with a "C" shaped piece of flat-bent metal. I was positive my wife would have to take me to the ER whilst trying to get them all separated.

Joe

Magicman · November 17, 2009, 02:47:13 PM

Quote from: Hale87 on November 16, 2009, 09:07:56 AM
I just did the bounce and twist thing yesterday for the first time.

Man was that easy.

Thanks for the tip.......

NOW you can impress your customers..... :D

backwoods sawyer · November 17, 2009, 05:52:37 PM

Quote from: jwoods on November 17, 2009, 08:15:52 AM
Coiling and uncoiling blades isn't too bad IMO.

My last order of re-sharps from Cooks were flat-packed, 14 blades in a kidney-bean shape (one inside the other) held together with a "C" shaped piece of flat-bent metal. I was positive my wife would have to take me to the ER whilst trying to get them all separated.

Joe

You are not alone. The first few that you take out of the bundle tend to not do what you want them to.

It seems that you need three or four hands to ease them out.

. I will go find a pair of gloves when unboxing a new set of saws.

WDH · November 17, 2009, 06:28:37 PM

If you throw the un-opened band on the sawdust pile to unfold, the sawdust keeps the teeth out of the dirt

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Chuck White · November 17, 2009, 06:39:31 PM

Once you have mastered coiling and uncoiling bands, try inverting the band without the band touching the floor/ground!

Like most things, it's easy once you know how!

moonhill · November 17, 2009, 07:50:34 PM

Whoa, someone surrendering and putting gloves on

while dealing with bands!

Tim

Magicman · November 17, 2009, 08:32:18 PM

OK, I'll admit that I am a whimp. Gloves, back support belt, welder's apron, steel toed boots, hat, safety glasses, dust mask & ear plugs when I'm sawing. I keep the gloves on when coiling a band..... :D

Dan_Shade · November 17, 2009, 08:40:52 PM

I like the ear muffs

Life is peaceful with earmuffs!

Tom · November 17, 2009, 08:41:36 PM

Quote from: Chuck White on November 17, 2009, 06:39:31 PM
...try inverting the band without the band touching the floor/ground!
Like most things, it's easy once you know how!

The easy part is doing it and not knowing how it happened. :D

Papa1stuff · November 17, 2009, 09:07:58 PM

When you have your own sharpener and setter you get to invert each and every band ,after 20 or 30 you get to do it pretty well ;D

Tom · November 17, 2009, 09:13:27 PM

You're right Papa1. I have turned a lot of them, but, I'll have to admit, I use my foot and both hands. :D

Papa1stuff · November 17, 2009, 09:16:04 PM

I do it by putting the blade under a board teeth down ,lift up and twist in or out with both hands and it inverts very easy!

Tom · November 17, 2009, 09:41:44 PM

I guess I could use a board, but I step in the center-bottom and hold it at about 9 and 1. Then I roll it. It goes pretty easy that way too.

moonhill · November 18, 2009, 07:10:17 AM

When inverting the band for sharpening start with the teeth facing toward you so after the result the teeth are facing away from you, it is the last snap that "gets ya". Yes a board or scrap of something to start from. Don't forget to turn the band back after sharpening, they don't cut well backwards. I had a old time sawyer watching me once when that happened. I wondered if he had ever installed his big circular saw with the teeth going the wrong way?

It is not uncommon for me to find a cracked band while inverting them, they sound and feel different.

Tim