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30" hookaroon about right?

Started by ksks, November 24, 2013, 04:09:36 PM

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ksks

Looking to get one for use with firewood and dragging small wood.

I'm 5'9" tall.  Is 30" length about right?

http://www.logrite.com/store/Item/30inch-Hookaroon

Thanks.
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turnkey

I lost my 30" log-rite off the truck a couple months ago.  Loved that thing!  Ordered another one and they shipped the 36" one.  Doesn't have the same "feel" or balance but it is better when it comes to hooking rounds off the truck bed.

Harry K

Yatt

That's the same one I have, I love it. :)
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Stinny

I bought a 30" about 2 months ago. I like it a lot. Like a lot of guys on this forum, my ole back is toast. Still learning how and where this tool can help the most.
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ReggieT

Quote from: Stinny on November 24, 2013, 08:00:41 PM
I bought a 30" about 2 months ago. I like it a lot. Like a lot of guys on this forum, my ole back is toast. Still learning how and where this tool can help the most.
Hey will it do basically the same thing as Cant Hook or a Peavey?
I'm 6'3 with some minor back problems...
Mostly turning big logs to complete my cuts..

thecfarm

Reggie,get on Logrite website,on the left or ksks,link. A hookaroon is not made for turning logs. More like an extension of the arm to reach something with a point on it.
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ksks

Looks like that's what I need.  We'll see what Santa says!

Thanks guys.
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ReggieT

Quote from: thecfarm on November 24, 2013, 11:07:39 PM
Reggie,get on Logrite website,on the left or ksks,link. A hookaroon is not made for turning logs. More like an extension of the arm to reach something with a point on it.
You are correct sir!
Thanks...I'm Cant Hook Bound now... 8)

turnkey

Quote from: thecfarm on November 24, 2013, 11:07:39 PM
Reggie,get on Logrite website,on the left or ksks,link. A hookaroon is not made for turning logs. More like an extension of the arm to reach something with a point on it.

No, but it will move rounds without bending over, drag stuff out of the truck, pick up that maul handle that fell over, etc., etc., etc.  Once you have one your days of bending over go away almost totally.  I didn't buy one for near on 30 years due to what I considered to be an inflated cost for a "nail in a stick".  Kicked myself a for that a few minutes after using it for the first time.

Bottom line:  If you don't have a hookeroon, you are handicapped. 

Harry K

ReggieT


stumper

I tried one like this and did not like it.  Maybe it is because I moved so very many tons with a wooden handled one, but it just does not feel right in the hand. 

I suggest trying a freinds in both wooden and aluminum handled version. 

I have the same concerns with peaveys.  The wooden fits better.  That said, because of weathering I have replaced the peavy I cary in my truck with an aluminum one, as it rides more then it works.  If I am going to use one a lot, I break out the wooden one.

Cedar Savage

I use a axe-a-roon it has a tip on the pick that digs in the harder you pull.
The hook a roon with strait pick, just sets you up for a fall on your azz, when it pulls out of the log.
Here's a pick a roon on fleabay that has the L shaped pick tip. Mine has a axe on the back for chopping small branches & knots. 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190979732825&item=190979732825&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466#ht_410wt_1141
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turnkey

Quote from: Cedar Savage on November 26, 2013, 12:20:20 AM
I use a axe-a-roon it has a tip on the pick that digs in the harder you pull.
The hook a roon with strait pick, just sets you up for a fall on your azz, when it pulls out of the log.
Here's a pick a roon on fleabay that has the L shaped pick tip. Mine has a axe on the back for chopping small branches & knots. 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190979732825&item=190979732825&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466#ht_410wt_1141

The logrite has the tip bent back toward the operator.  You are correct, the tool has to have that or it's effectiveness is cut way down.

Harry K

Stinny

I agree with the angled tip for sure. It stays put when you want to pick up a split piece of firewood, and let's you get it all the way up to waist height without bending at all... or, losing the piece midway up. The light weight LogRite handle is nice too for the same type lift. Sticking and pulling pieces toward you, at waist height on a raised work surface, is effortless because of that angled tip too. Slick. 
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stumper

I have found that I need to customize my tip when I buy a new one.  I normally blunt the end a bit by simply pounding it onto an anvil like surface.  I also file a bit about 3/16 back from the tip to create a little hook.  It need to stick easy, hold well but still release with a wrist flick.

Maybe if I modified the aluminum handle with a proper end swell it would feel better.

Cedar Savage

Yea...when the tip is shaped right you can pick up a piece of firewood with out bending over.
Its definitly a back saver, I carry mine almost all the time, for rolling logs, pulling lumber off the mill, loading the OWB, also works as a cane too, when ya flip it over.
Here's a pic of the pick tip......



 
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Gunny 1992

I'm going to put this question up for the more experienced users of the hookeroon.  What is the major function for this tool?  Both my trucks have dumps, one full size dump truck and the other a slip dump.  If I need the wood out then I just pick up the dump more.  Is there a more practical use for the hookaroon?  Don't get me wrong I love to buy tools, just wonder what the use is?  I am only 40 so not as seasoned as some on this site, maybe a tool for the future?  Thanks  Oh, just funny fact with spell check.  Keeps wanting to enter hooker where I have hookaroon.  This would require very different answers if spell check took over.
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gspren

Quote from: Gunny 1992 on November 27, 2013, 12:46:24 PM
I'm going to put this question up for the more experienced users of the hookeroon.  What is the major function for this tool?  Both my trucks have dumps, one full size dump truck and the other a slip dump.  If I need the wood out then I just pick up the dump more.  Is there a more practical use for the hookaroon?  Don't get me wrong I love to buy tools, just wonder what the use is?  I am only 40 so not as seasoned as some on this site, maybe a tool for the future?  Thanks  Oh, just funny fact with spell check.  Keeps wanting to enter hooker where I have hookaroon.  This would require very different answers if spell check took over.

The short answer is it's an arm extension, get one and you will like it. Like some others I like the wooden handles on a hookaroon although I like the aluminum on my Logrite cant hook. Look up Peavy Manufacturing and pickaroon which is another name for the hookaroon.
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beenthere

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turnkey

Quote from: Gunny 1992 on November 27, 2013, 12:46:24 PM
I'm going to put this question up for the more experienced users of the hookeroon.  What is the major function for this tool?  Both my trucks have dumps, one full size dump truck and the other a slip dump.  If I need the wood out then I just pick up the dump more.  Is there a more practical use for the hookaroon?  Don't get me wrong I love to buy tools, just wonder what the use is?  I am only 40 so not as seasoned as some on this site, maybe a tool for the future?  Thanks  Oh, just funny fact with spell check.  Keeps wanting to enter hooker where I have hookaroon.  This would require very different answers if spell check took over.

Bend over to roll a round over to the splitter?  Need to move rounds over to the truck to load?  Hookeroon.  Bend over to pick up your small limbing saw?  Hookeroon.  In a word most of the stuff you bend over to pick up can be done with a hookeroon.  In fact when 'wooding' I find I bend over about 1/2 as much as I used to.

At least borrow one to try out - you'll be sold the first time you use it.  I used mine once and swore anyone trying to take it away would be in for a fight :)

Harry K

beenthere

turnkey
QuoteBend over to roll a round over to the splitter?  Need to move rounds over to the truck to load?  Hookeroon.  Bend over to pick up your small limbing saw?  Hookeroon.  In a word most of the stuff you bend over to pick up can be done with a hookeroon.  In fact when 'wooding' I find I bend over about 1/2 as much as I used to.

At least borrow one to try out - you'll be sold the first time you use it.  I used mine once and swore anyone trying to take it away would be in for a fight :)

Harry K
So I am wondering, where do you store or keep the hookeroon so it is always handy to pick things up?
Am sure you don't have to bend down to pick it up first ;)  Sounds like you keep it pretty handy all the time.
Maybe have a holster for it ?
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Dave Shepard

I think mine is the 30". I keep it on top of the hydraulic box on the WM. I've started to pull big slabs off the mill onto the loader arms with it. Not bending over to straighten out a heavy crooked slab that's on the ground is really nice. When I had a truck with a utility body on it, I would keep it in a driver's side box so I could grab stuff out of the front of the bed with it.

My LogRite hookaroon has the tip pointing back towards the handle. It grabs nicely, and lets go with a twist of the wrist.
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North River Energy

QuoteI'm going to put this question up for the more experienced users of the hookeroon.  What is the major function for this tool?

Extra reach with a talon.
I use mine to clear errant blocks from around the moving parts, on both the processor and the cordwood saw.

Keeps the fingers attached to the hand, etc.

Cedar Savage

Dragging 8 ft firewood when in the woods, into a pile, to buck up, standing up 4-5 footers up on end to carve, picking up firewood blocks off the ground, rolling bigger logs around...off of fork lift, use it like a golf club to wack small chunks of wood outta my way, &  I stick in in the nearest block of wood when I don't need it, for easy retrieval...
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Magicman

I had Kevin and Tammy bring me a 30" Hookaroon to this year's Pig Roast.  It is painted Forestry Forum Green.


 
It works wonderful for reaching across and dragging flitches from the loader to the sawmill bed for edging.


 
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Chuck White

Yup, I think that would be the best use for a hookaroon or a pickaroon Lynn.

I don't do firewood, so for me that is out of the equation!
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turnkey

Quote from: beenthere on November 27, 2013, 04:58:56 PM
turnkey
QuoteBend over to roll a round over to the splitter?  Need to move rounds over to the truck to load?  Hookeroon.  Bend over to pick up your small limbing saw?  Hookeroon.  In a word most of the stuff you bend over to pick up can be done with a hookeroon.  In fact when 'wooding' I find I bend over about 1/2 as much as I used to.

At least borrow one to try out - you'll be sold the first time you use it.  I used mine once and swore anyone trying to take it away would be in for a fight :)

Harry K
So I am wondering, where do you store or keep the hookeroon so it is always handy to pick things up?
Am sure you don't have to bend down to pick it up first ;)  Sounds like you keep it pretty handy all the time.
Maybe have a holster for it ?

It hangs on something where I'm working or at least leans against something.  I have actually walked 50' to retrieve rather than bend over and roll a round over to the splitter.  Today I was loading rounds into a trailer to move to a splitting area.  Rather than bend over to set the sstuff on the ground on end for easy pickup, I walked about 15 ft around the rick I was loading from to get it. 

The day I went 'wooding' and found the hookeroon was missing off the truck was "painful".  I distinctly remember using it the day befor unloading and proably put it on top of the cab while I was unloading small stuff in the bed - must have fallen off on my way out to the cutting site.  I ordered another one as soon as I got back to the house.

I don't think anyone who has used one would ever be without again.


Harry K

Dusty Rhodes

I have to add a +1 to Harry K.  Once you use one you are hooked.. Pun intended.  Don't know exactly how useful they are around the mills but for firewood duty it is a back saver.  As suggested for moving rounds and splits even rolling small logs.  I unload the truck with one and if I am moving firewood off the stacks an into the loader bucket of the tractor the pickeroon is the tool I use.  Mine is a 30" Peavey.  I also have a homemade one with a little smaller head.  I am going to modify that one to use for taking rounds out of the truck, just need to put a long handle on it.  Just be careful if you are swinging towards yourself that you do not miss what you are aiming for and bury the tip in your leg... OUCH.

turnkey

Quote from: Dusty Rhodes on December 03, 2013, 09:38:38 PM
I have to add a +1 to Harry K.  Once you use one you are hooked.. Pun intended.  Don't know exactly how useful they are around the mills but for firewood duty it is a back saver.  As suggested for moving rounds and splits even rolling small logs.  I unload the truck with one and if I am moving firewood off the stacks an into the loader bucket of the tractor the pickeroon is the tool I use.  Mine is a 30" Peavey.  I also have a homemade one with a little smaller head.  I am going to modify that one to use for taking rounds out of the truck, just need to put a long handle on it.  Just be careful if you are swinging towards yourself that you do not miss what you are aiming for and bury the tip in your leg... OUCH.

I made me an 8' one so Icould hook that last pile of rounds in the front of the bed.

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8' closet pole, a compression fitting (Dressler coupling) from the plumbing fittings and a hunk of 1/2" allthread.

That coupling gives just enough weight out there and the handles is light but stiff enough.  Copied the 'hook' on the spike from the LogRite.  The only time I crawl up in the bed now is to unload the small (no split) stuff.

Harry K


beenthere

turnkey

Follow this thread link for posting pics. It'll help you where you need it. Give a shout if you get hung up at all.

https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,61788.0.html


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turnkey

Quote from: beenthere on December 04, 2013, 02:17:29 AM
turnkey

Follow this thread link for posting pics. It'll help you where you need it. Give a shout if you get hung up at all.

https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,61788.0.html

Thanks.  I even knew about that requirement but had forgotten.  I'll give that a try and put up a test post later.

Harry K

ReggieT

Quote from: ReggieT on November 25, 2013, 02:09:48 AM
Hmm....
Just bought & used 60' aluminum LogRite today...turning some Black Locust...came in mighty handy especially being by myself.
First time using my newly acquired Stihl 034 w/chisel...it tore through a 2-3 yr old downed black locust pretty good...only saw 2 sparks fly! :D
I'm impressed with the saw...although coming from a Poulan 5020 Pro...I guess should be, with such limited point of reference.

THE BAD: My lower back starting cramping & spasming like I had been layin/toting bricks for 10 hrs...and I only did one freaking log...Geez...I must be bad outta shape...or maybe my potassium is low again...hmm.
Any way it caused me to cut a trail to the house and leave 12 footer still chilling on the ground...that wood was a tad heavier bucked, than I had calculated...

I WILL GET THAT OTHER BL LOG...REGARDLESS!  ;D

CTYank

About the PP5020 reference, chain filing skills are essential, as is the carb-adjusting tool. Apples/oranges, y'know.
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ReggieT

Quote from: CTYank on December 08, 2013, 07:49:06 AM
About the PP5020 reference, chain filing skills are essential, as is the carb-adjusting tool. Apples/oranges, y'know.
I'm cognizant of that... :snowball:

Stinny

Reggie... I can relate to your back issue for sure. The days of bending and lifting things like  your "laying bricks for 10 hours" are long behind me. If I pay attention (not often) I can usually regulate my after effect issues by taking longer to get "lifts" done using gear or just slowing down. But not always. I'll do something, usually after doing too much bending & lifting over a few days, and the back will go into that full spasm. Takes me 2-4 days of lying flat and not bending or lifting at all, to get right again. Like many, I'm carrying too much weight in the gut and my back never gets a break, so I know how I can help the issue a little. Gotta stop lifting that fork so much...

If I go negative though, I just remember a poor guy I drove to the hospital years ago. I was a volunteer ambulance driver and we'd gone to a call where a 30 year old guy was down and really hurting, in his backyard. He appeared to be in good physical shape, and had been trying to unload a snowmobile off a trailer. He said he bent his knees and lifted straight up and just blacked out and collapsed. We heard later, his lower back/discs had blown out very badly. Had to pry my fingers off the steering wheel, when we got to the ER, from grabbing it so hard listening to him howl all the way in. I literally crawled over every hump/bump/pot hole on the roads, but it still just killed him at every movement. I never want to be in his shoes if I can help it.

Good luck with your back... and go easy. 
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ReggieT

That would be my dilemma as well...too much overtime round the table!
YIKES...about that guy...miss me on that...thanks for the "inspiration"...I guess! lol

ksks

Quote from: ksks on November 24, 2013, 11:20:05 PM
Looks like that's what I need.  We'll see what Santa says!

Thanks guys.


Santa said yes!!!
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turnkey

Quote from: ksks on December 29, 2013, 09:59:23 AM
Quote from: ksks on November 24, 2013, 11:20:05 PM
Looks like that's what I need.  We'll see what Santa says!

Thanks guys.


Santa said yes!!!

Great!  Put it to use and let us know how you like it.

Harry K

LAZERDAN

Just got a 36" Logrite Hookaroon for christmas   from no. 1 daughter (love it )   Sawed and split a cord of wood last night ( -10  I think I froze the daughters boyfriend, but he stuck with it to the end.) Well anyway, we load in a 12' wagon and the 36" Logrite is not long enough to hook all the wood out. Here's my Question: Has anyone made a spike end for your yellow handle pole saw fiberglass trimmer poles.  They snap together for different attachments ,saw, sand bag sling shot etc.  I don"t think I have ever saw them anywhere
Thanks Lazerdan   

stumper

I have not seen anything like that but the make pick poles in all lengths.

Stinny

Hey Reggie... I guess I shoulda paid more attention to my post above about "not wanting to ever be in that guy's shoes" Not quite a month later, Dec 5th, I found an even better way to enjoy back pain. Took a decent flop off some steps (icy) and landed on my back and upper right side. After many years of "showing off" my crash skills, I finally really did it. Knocked the wind out of me hard. When I got up, I knew this was going to be very different. After X-rays and 3 weeks... nothing broken, ripped muscles away from my pelvis in the back (that was the worst), tore up all of my right side muscles. I could hardly walk with lots of people helping at first. Slept upright sitting on the bed leaning on the back of a chair for the 1st 2 nights, moved to upright on the couch for 2 weeks... finally got so I could lie on my sides about 3 days ago. Much better today and even got downstairs to tend my wood stove. I missed it.

Life is good... again. Wood stoves can do that...
Suzuki 4x4 on Tatou tracks tugging logs in winter

thecfarm

Stinny,that is too bad. Last year,when everything was ice,I was walking my woods road, that was just about all ice with a friend and his GD. We walked down and was walking part. I was heading for some snow to get off the ice. Never made it. I think my whole body went up in the air 6 feet, :D and came straight down. I laid there for a minute. I was fine,but headed for the house. My walk was done for that day.  ::)
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Stinny

cFarm... When I think about the number of times I've crashed and burned over the years, this one time really got my attention. Worse thing about it is I watched the railing all the way down thinking it might have been good to have grabbed it... maybe next time.
Suzuki 4x4 on Tatou tracks tugging logs in winter

Magicman

Wow Stinny, that hurt just reading about it.  I hope your recovery goes well.
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Stinny

Thanks Magicman. Yep, I'm much better today and sitting down in front of the wood stove right now, with the Mac on my lap. Life is good once again. Can't wait to see what I get into next...
Suzuki 4x4 on Tatou tracks tugging logs in winter

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