We can all learn safety features from these guys...????

Slingshot · October 24, 2009, 04:44:39 PM

Saw this on youtube, quite interesting...

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Dan_Shade · October 24, 2009, 05:00:48 PM

:-( you busted me.

That kind of makes me cringe while watching. No guards, sticking hands near the band, putting a belt on a pulley with the engine running, what else in there?

Dave Shepard · October 24, 2009, 05:05:24 PM

That was ~~kinda~~ very alarming. :-\

Chico · October 24, 2009, 05:06:45 PM

There was nothing moving when he put the belts on the idler was locked up and the saw wasn't moving I don't see a prob with it course that may be why they call me lefty ;D
Chico

jdtuttle · October 24, 2009, 05:10:23 PM

OMG

I wonder why he's wearing knee pads? :-\

Dave Shepard · October 24, 2009, 05:15:16 PM

The pulley on the engine was moving, that's for sure. I like how he has a nice board pile to trip over as he walks alongside the mill.

submarinesailor · October 24, 2009, 05:15:40 PM

I wonder if he had the knee pads on because he falls down alot. I can't stand anything under my feet while sawing.

Bruce

Slingshot · October 24, 2009, 05:29:43 PM

Looks like the guy in the blue shirt is standing right in line with the dust chute (which has been cut open with cutting
torch and fingers removed) as blade is engaged and later walks in front of chute as saw is cutting. And all trafffic is on business side of saw as other side looks to be close to wall.

Dan_Shade · October 24, 2009, 05:30:54 PM

Trip hazards are half the fun!

when it's pretty cold out, I'll take a few flitches off the first few logs I saw, and put them on the ground to walk on.

i tend to keep a cant hook laying down near the walking path too.

Sturdy foot wear, and keeping sure footed is how I do it! I definately don't like loose stuff under my feet.

red oaks lumber · October 24, 2009, 06:02:06 PM

and he vidieo taped himself why ? is he trying to get on disability via being mentally unstable

Papa1stuff · October 24, 2009, 06:17:53 PM

Oops ,you mean that isn't the way to mill ,guess I need some lessons ;D ;D

Brad_S. · October 24, 2009, 07:13:34 PM

Are we sure those guys aren't FF members? :D
If they are, they sure won't admit it now.

beenthere · October 24, 2009, 07:57:17 PM

Not sure why we are looking down our noses at this guy (these guys). I can see some danger walking in front of the discharge chute (wonder who doesn't do that on occasion). I can see some danger from apparently working on the belt while still running. :

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Other than that, seems he knows how to make it saw wood.

If he likes sawing that way, I could care less.

I suspect he is enjoying making lumber.

My two cents.

red oaks lumber · October 24, 2009, 10:01:26 PM

beenthere,
is that you sawing wood? or maybe because it's orange it might be the secret training grounds for new woodmizer salesmen.. just kidding everyone lol

backwoods sawyer · October 24, 2009, 10:08:55 PM

I think the point is, that if we all take a video of are selves milling, that someone else can find fault with our methods. Kinda like the only thing that the two horse trainers can agree on is that the third one is doing it wrong. However, if we take a look at what they are doing here and then think about it while we are milling, we are more apt to be safe about doing the same steps. When it comes to safety, anyone on site, young or old, experienced or not, can call a halt to operations and discuss a safer way of doing something.

beenthere · October 24, 2009, 10:26:57 PM

backwoods sawyer
Good points. And what the FF is all about too. 8)

red oaks lbr
:D :D :D

Slingshot · October 24, 2009, 11:36:54 PM

Just want to make mention that I didn't post the video link to ridicule those guys and don't know that
any one has taken it that way; I saw the video and saw a couple things that concerned me after
reading another thread about broken blades shooting out the dust chute, and seeing a belt being put back
on a pulley with the engine running and the belt jumping up and down. A finger could have gotten caught
under the belt when it snapped back on and torn his hand up, or arm.
But, then, I have done a few things myself that I have looked back on and wondered, why? :

And then
realized how close I came to a serious accident.

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Dan_Shade · October 24, 2009, 11:48:14 PM

I think a discussion of all the "wrong" things in that video is a very good thing.

I'll admit that I will do a few things that others won't do. I have a video of how to fold bands, that has gotten some negative comments, the way I do it is not the safest. I also hate to wear gloves, and I don't, unless it's very cold out. I get an annoying splinter sometimes. I've also gouged my hands pretty bad while unfolding a band. I know the risks, and I accept them.

That video annoys me. The helper is in harms way. I feel it is absolutely irresponsible to operate a bandsaw without the band shields in place. I can give him a pass on the belt shields, but bands will break. and I'd hate to be anywhere around a bandsaw without shields when a band breaks.

I'm sure they are enjoying themselves, but that enjoyment would be just as great if they were doing it safely.

customsawyer · October 25, 2009, 08:36:35 PM

I didn't see any sawdust coming out of the chute.

caver · October 25, 2009, 08:43:29 PM

I'm a noob at this sawmill thingy but running in an enclosed area?
We had a sump pump running in a much larger area than what they are in at work.
We walked back there after a few minutes of the sump pump running to check our confined space with an air monitor that had just been calibrated. The alarm went of for bad air. Another department was in charge of pumping out the hole but we have a new plant policy on running gas powered pumps indoors.

Bibbyman · October 25, 2009, 09:07:46 PM

This would make a good Halloween movie for sawyers.

Well, it looks like he's lived a long life.

moonhill · October 25, 2009, 11:02:06 PM

And more critique, he seemed to take a while to get the saw set to the height of the cut and stalled in the middle for an adjustment and took even more time to raise the saw and return, get in there and get 'er done.

Tim

Ironwood · October 25, 2009, 11:23:34 PM

Caver,

That is first thing that came to my mind as well. I guess you pass out from CO2 then fall in front of the unguarded blade, and well there you go. Looks like natural selection to me (sorry), but yeah a few issues fer sure.

Ironwood

Brucer · October 26, 2009, 03:10:47 AM

Notice how the drive belt just popped right off. Anyone here have that happen?

Notice how he just went right in there and put it back on?

Is there a reason the belt/drive cover is off?

My guess is the belt isn't tensioned properly and rather than fix the problem, he's left things open so he can remount the belt quickly.

I have a competitor like that. Won't take the time to do proper maintenance, won't take the time to put the covers back on, won't take the time to adjust the mill, won't take the time to grease it. Too much time wasted doing those things when he could be sawing. He's been in the business 3 times longer than I have and he can't figure out how come I'm making money and he isn't.

This would make a good safety video for a new employee. "Here, watch this a few times and write down all the things he's doing wrong."

sparks · October 26, 2009, 09:58:20 AM

What a nightmare. No covers, putting belts on while the engine is running, engaging the blade so slowly that the belts are probably howling, cut so slow that he blade flex life has to be horrible, multiple trip hazzards and people in the way of getting hurt................ This should be titled what not to do when sawing.