Alright winter is coming on and this will be my first winter sawing when I can find time that I'm not in the deerstand. What is the best thing to use to replace water lube system. I once heard of some people using diesel. Do they use it straight 100% or what. Tell me what works best
Use windsheild washer fluid. I've mixed it half strength and had good results.
Diesel, knowing that you will go home smelling like it. But it works the best. Biggest question is what are you cutting. Diesel is best for oak,hickory, ash. Other species windshield washer fluid. Some don't need any. If its pine, others can comment better than me on that.
If you do go the diesel route, which is what I use year round, straight works fine. A little drip of diesel goes a long, long way...much different than water where you have to keep up a pretty good flow.
windshield washer fluid. diesel fuel is for trucks :)
Windshield washer fluid. Cheaper than diesel. Works great!
Probaly would use more windshield fluid than diesel. I use a 50/50 mix of bar and chain oil and diesel. I use only a drip every few seconds. A gallon last a long time.BUT I only cut for myself. Probably most cars drip more than what diesel I use. But using diesel may make certain finishes not stick to well. Depends what kind of wood and what it's being used for. I only saw out building lumber for me.
You need to consider what your mill is set up to use...systems are made a little different although on the same principle...what might work for one might not work for another..Tim
Used anitfreeze good friends own a garage they love to give it away.
Diese, way cheaper the washer fluid as you only use 1/10 as much. Steve
One gallon of -32° windshield washer fluid and four gallons of water is what WM recommends for our area. Works for me. (A search will find several threads/posts on this subject).
so for those of you that use diesel fuel, do you use a winter blend ? regular fuel gels up at 10 deg.
Up here in the cold the diesel is mixed out of the pumps and doesn't gel. When it's 5* above or so I'd have to run straight washer fluid which gets expensive. Steve
I intend on making a diesel lube system for my WM, I'll use felt wipers that ride on the blade
All you have to do is keep them wet. I don't really care for the water lube system, I don' t like all the wet sawdust gunked all over the mill. But, until that's set up, I'll use washer fluid in the cold temps.
Quote from: red oaks lumber on September 25, 2011, 09:20:05 AM
so for those of you that use diesel fuel, do you use a winter blend ? regular fuel gels up at 10 deg.
:D :D :D Are you kidding me ...I am not going to fire the mill up any where near that cold...I think that may be the reason we are not flying the stars and bars right now...we like to be in the house by the fire in the winter time...Tim
Quote from: Banjo picker on September 25, 2011, 03:48:12 PM
Quote from: red oaks lumber on September 25, 2011, 09:20:05 AM
so for those of you that use diesel fuel, do you use a winter blend ? regular fuel gels up at 10 deg.
:D :D :D Are you kidding me ...I am not going to fire the mill up any where near that cold...I think that may be the reason we are not flying the stars and bars right now...we like to be in the house by the fire in the winter time...Tim
Wuss, anything above 0 is fine up here. Steve
Diesel all the way!! Used to play around with windshield washer anti freeze and water but I'm never going back.
A drip system will make a gallonof diesel last forever and no pitch on the blade either.
Year round at my house.
Here is a ratio chart.
Anybody who uses Cascade gel know whether adding windshield washer fluid causes the Cascade to fall out of solution? Does the WWF have any benefit to clearing sap on its own?
i use diesel. i currently am using deisel that came out of a salvaged dozer. not good enough to run in a motor so it gets used on the mill.
the drip system on a wm and on a ez boardwalk or on a cooks are all totally different. the diesel ones are set up to run a drip or less every 3 or 4 seconds. wm is set up to run a flow of water on the ones i have seen anyway.
my woodmizer using friend was using water all winter last winter and with minimal trouble. here is how he did it. fill the tank with hot water from the tub or water heater. put a blanket over it on the mill. make sure you let all the water out when you are finished. he did saw during some of the record cold we had last winter. highs of 20 and lows at night of -15. pc
The antifreeze agent in most WW fluid is alcohol and it also has some detergent. It might stratify a bit, but certainly not completely. I'm sure that it would have some cleaning ability on it's own, but I doubt enough for our SYP. This is simply my opinion and not based on experience.
Not that it really matters,I have two flow controls on mine. One I turn off and on and the other controls the drip flow.