This ones got me Stumped. Tree ID?

[WDH]

It should also have had nice pretty white flowers.

[enigmaT120]

It should also have had nice pretty white flowers.

...that smell really good.  I'd love to try some honey made from them, if bees use them.

[Enderslbz]

And some wicked thorns...  I have a stand of black locust on my property thats going to go for firewood once I get and OWB.

[Beavertooth]

Squirrels love to eat those little white flowers or the seed in them is more like it.

[OH Boy]

Not much good for anything that I know of.  However, a fiddle player once told me it was food wood for a fiddle bow.

I met a guy that hand hews recurve bows and looks specifically for Ironwood. something about the way he can shape it with the grain patters and the strength.

Oh, and in our area this one is Ironwood, and the smooth gray bark one is called musclewood. a 12"dbh Ironwood tree is big and old here.Don't really see many that large. I did a report on the two trees in school many, many, many years ago, and if I remember right the Ironwood leaf serrations are (relative) big tooth, small tooth, big tooth, etc, where the serrations on the musclewood (Blue Beech?) are relatively the same size. That is if you have a leaf to look at, other than that the thin peeling bark is a dead giveaway.

[WDH]

They are both in the birch family, and both have leaves that are doubly serrate.

[Mopar70]

"hornbeam in "ME"
rare, elm and hornbeam usually end up bening mentioned in the same sentince.