Frost free hydrant.

Dave Shepard · October 25, 2020, 02:40:27 PM

I figure there are plenty of people on here that have installed a frost free hydrant. I hooked one up yesterday and it won't turn on unless I turn on another hose to bleed off some of the pressure or volume. It's a brand new Prier p260-5. The well pump on this system must be pretty big, as there is plenty of pressure and volume. Has anybody run into this before? Thanks.

gspren · October 25, 2020, 05:19:19 PM

I have 3 that I installed here and never ran into that problem. Does the handle move up and down working the plunger rod? Two of mine start to flow when the handle is half way up and the other not until its nearly vertical. I understand them but can't figure your problem.

hedgerow · October 25, 2020, 05:38:20 PM

I have installed a bunch of frost free hydrant's over the years and the only ones I have had good luck with are Iowa's Woodford hydrant's. I have some Iowa's on water systems that run 100 PSI and never had problems with them. I have had to go back and dug up a lot of other brands that were having issues. Sorry can't be much help as I haven't installed any thing other than a Iowa in the last twenty years.

moosehunter · October 25, 2020, 05:57:57 PM

It's probably a backflow valve. I replaced a hydrant valve once because it wouldn't work. New one wouldn't work either. What the DanG??? The house had been replaced with a new one. ( We moved out of a mobile home, sold said mobile home. Mom bought and had a new house installed on same lot) I checked and found a anti back flo valve at the pressure tank. Hydrant was between well and house so only worked while pump was running.
Hope this helps you, near drove me insane.
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Dave Shepard · October 25, 2020, 07:25:54 PM

Thank you for the replies. I looked for a check valve of some kind, but didn't see one yesterday. There must be one, as these symptoms and a couple others are explained by there being one somewhere in the system. It's a sort of cobbled emergency arrangement that never got replaced long before we were involved. It's a dormitory that used to house a hundred head of juvenile delinquents. Now it houses a hundred head of hogs and a thousand chickens. :D

Southside · October 25, 2020, 07:51:29 PM

It's always ends up chickens around here. ;D

mike_belben · October 25, 2020, 08:25:36 PM

Well atleast youre in better company now.

Dave Shepard · October 25, 2020, 09:02:41 PM

Yeah, pigs, chickens, and cows now. Had some trouble getting in the new hay shed, had to make a new door. :D

btulloh · October 25, 2020, 09:05:04 PM

That looks like a shop to me. With a basketball court.

Dave Shepard · October 25, 2020, 09:41:16 PM

Yeah, I wanted to use it as a shop, too, but got vetoed. We made the cafeteria into the shop.

My shop needs a little work, and about 74,800 gallons of fill. That is this falls project.

btulloh · October 25, 2020, 10:08:41 PM

Nice to acquire a farm with such nice outbuildings. There must be story to go along with that.

Banjo picker · October 25, 2020, 10:28:15 PM

10 4 on the story. Tim

Don P · October 25, 2020, 10:51:35 PM

With livestock your shop looks like a good start on a methane digester.

Dave Shepard · October 26, 2020, 10:19:07 AM

A friend started a farm raising meat and eggs and needed to start building a farm store and barns when the school came up for sale. This "reform" school had been vacant for some years and was two miles from his home farm. It came with the dormitories, pool and classroom building, and a number of other buildings, as well as 150 acres of land. The first move was to make the door in the new hay shed, then the dorm rooms were converted to rooms for pigs and chickens. The boys wing and the girls wing were renamed the Chicken Wing and the Hog Leg, and I unofficially call the whole place the Chicken Bacon Ranch.

I'm in the process of developing the pool/classroom building into my timber framing shop. I'm starting with the pool room for my timber work, and will develop other areas as needed. There is a 1200 amp three phase service in the building which I may turn on if I install wood processing equipment. For now, I'm going offgrid. I don't know how much the light bill would be, but I know it's more then I want to pay right now.

GRANITEstateMP · October 26, 2020, 06:57:45 PM

Quote from: Dave Shepard on October 25, 2020, 09:02:41 PM
Yeah, pigs, chickens, and cows now. Had some trouble getting in the new hay shed, had to make a new door. :D

Dave, are you sure the KoolAidman didn't just bust through that wall? That kinda looks like his handy work! ;D

K-Guy · October 27, 2020, 07:59:56 AM

That hole in the wall looks like a young driver was practicing!! ;D

Don P · October 27, 2020, 09:02:07 AM

I am assuming you looked up before blowing thru. We did extensive repairs on that old service station a year or two ago. They knocked out walls wherever it suited their needs over time. I looked up one blowout was under a deep I beam 3 others were load bearing walls. Someone had backed into another wall and the shock carried through the roof beams across to the opposite wall, breaking it. Remove and rebuilds, engineers, welders, special inspections, a wicked spiral. I much prefer sawing and gently removing brittle masonry.