Yote hunting

[SwampDonkey]

Well, unless someone can resurrect them from the grave. ;D But 'ain't likely' is one of them loose terms. Means it's also remotely possible. ;) Probably won't make it across the St Lawrence or Bay of Chaleur. Maybe from Michigan across to Northern NY and New England and southern Que. ;)

[Jeff]

All you need is some wolf lovers to start a movement to reintroduce wolves to your area.

[beenthere]

Yep, like Jeff says.
We had 'em do exactly that in WI and now the fight is on to get a wolf season on them because there are too DanG many. But there are those that say "it won't do any good to shoot them, as they will just fill in the voids with more and more pups".  Have heard that argument too many times. It is from the DNR infiltrators that border on the PETA desires. PITA IMO

And we used to have a coyote bounty, but the do-gooders managed to get all bounties in the State against the State law. Now when we need a bounty to encourage the taking of some animals, it is against the law. Instead, the State hires sharpshooters at about $600 a pop to take out the nuisance animals. Go figure.

[Reddog]

Probably won't make it across the St Lawrence or Bay of Chaleur. Maybe from Michigan across to Northern NY and New England and southern Que. ;)

Well they are in Ontario and Quebec now, so a pretty short travel and you may have them again.

[SwampDonkey]

It's not going to happen, at least as long as I'm living. We have some sensible people in DNR, even though some of them may not be at the top of their game. But, there is no one, unless under the cover of darkness and without anyone knowing about it, that is going to be allowed to introduce a wolf into the NB wild. But not only that, we don't have a lot of provincial biologists in the department. Don't have the resources and usually one of the smallest budgets. Maybe two if we are lucky and he's usually at odds with Timber Management Branch over deer yards and cavity trees.  In New Brunswick, wildlife management has always been spelled Deer. That's why we have Deer Wintering Areas and in recent years a lot of those areas were harvested because the winter habitat crashed. Which was inevitable since the woods is dynamic not static, you can't simply draw a polygon on a map and expect it to remain unchanged on the ground. ;) Maine tried to re-introduce woodland caribou (twice) because someone apparently didn't know why they died out before. That failed miserably.

[Jeff]

Well, maybe we can take up a collection for ya.

[SwampDonkey]

Well they are in Ontario and Quebec now, so a pretty short travel and you may have them again.

Always have been, but on the north shore of the St Lawrence in both provinces. And Quebec government allows them to be hunted and trapped pretty hard. ;)

[SwampDonkey]

Well, maybe we can take up a collection for ya.

Coyotes and foxes are enough to suit me. :D

[Burlkraft]

I thought this thread was about cats   ;D ;D ;D

[stumpy]

Burl,  It doesn't matter, eventually it will be about food 8)

[Reddog]

I thought this thread was about cats   ;D ;D ;D

Back to your Go Bears thread.  ;D

[Burlkraft]

I thought this thread was about cats   ;D ;D ;D

Back to your Go Bears thread.  ;D

:D :D :D  That was a good 'un eh Wally?

[doctorb]

I have tried to delve into the reproduction of the coyote family "pack", and while many sources don't talk much about it, those that do say that the size of a coyote litter is directly related to the available food supply and the size of the family.  While non-dominant adults can "attempt reproduction", most literature describes these pregnancies as very unlikely to be sucessfull.  I presume that means that if the alphas don't want your kids around, they ain't gonna be around!  Litter size can be from a low of 3 to a high of 12.

The sources I checked did not relate population growth or decrease to hunting or killing of the alpha female.  I have to look further to see if that specific issue, as it relates to coyote population size, has been scientifically studied.  As I heard this addressed from several people in my area, they either were listening to each other or there's some source that is stating that such hunting may increase their numbers.

[SwampDonkey]

Everyone has there little prejudices. :D :D :D ;D

[SwampDonkey]

Doc, the western coyote at least, is known as the prairie jackal. I saw a documentary one time of the silver back jackal in Africa. It showed the dominant male and female bearing the young and some older siblings helping to raise the young. It was a decent show,and I taped it on audio. This was 25 years ago. They were not normally prey to other predators and they scavenged for less than 10 % of their food. Small rodents and young gazelle were some of their prey. It was some type of rat that was the most sought after. This one family of jackals they followed for a long time, several generations back in the 1970's. An unknown disease had claimed them in the end, all the jackals being studied for 7 years.

Here an excerpt of the same Dr and her jackals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAtrpX8BXv8

[clww]

We've had the coyotes start moving into the western part of VA starting about 5 years ago now. 2 years ago when I was camped out for my deer season, about 11 pm one night, a pack of them had all gathered down in the valley, no more than a mile away. They started barking and howling, making a huge ruckus. Made the hair on my neck stand up. Sounded like something in a B-Grade horror flick.
Fast forward to this past deer season. I was up my stand at about 30 feet in the air and saw some movement about a quarter mile away in a clear cut. Kept watching it for about 10 minutes, just getting a glimpse every now and then as it got closer. At about 300 yards this turned into a coyote, big one, too. She sat down and barked a few times, with her head tilted back. Last thing she ever did! Took her to my taxidermist the next day. She weighed 37 pounds, which he said was a big coyote. Beautiful coat and will make a great mount. I've hunted all over the continent for the past 25 years and this was the first one for me.

[SwampDonkey]

clww, did you see many yotes in other parts of the country? I usually see more single foxes in a year here. But, the yotes are always present, they have learned to stay out of view. If you see one even 1/2 mile away he heads for the bush. A couple winters ago I was heading down to the shop and about 3/4 mile away was one sitting on the farm road howling. He sat there I bet 30 minutes howling. I actually like the sound of'm myself. I have no desire to be attacked by one though. He'd probably spit this tough raw hide out. ;D One night in the summer a couple years ago I hear this yipping in the drive way, not far from an open window. Went on for a awhile and I said to myself I gotta get up and settle this argument. I went out and it was a fox barking back at 2 or 3 yotes about 1/2 mile away down in the woods. One morning that darn fox was cornering a cat in the lilacs. She's rough country up here, you could get ate up. :D :D

[SwampDonkey]

Here's one of the yotes I've seen on the woodlot.

[clww]

I've seen many of them out west and up in Canada. I usually am hunting with a bow and they never get within my 50 yard limit.

[chain]

I've watched so many 'yotes, I know where these locally travel as from their bedding area to their hunting ground. If you can locate a crossing; for instance, two timber trails intersecting, many times they will leave their droppings or urine post to mark their territory. But there are good attractants such as 'yote glandular lure that may pull in a shy 'ol 'yote in close. I reccommend a lure made by 'Sullivan's' called "coyote con", a long range lure with staying power. But there are a number of good lures out there, patience is the key.

[Kansas]

When I was in high school, there were lots of coyotes in the area. Lots of hunting for them. Then the mange hit. That pretty well wiped them all out. Now they are finally back. I love listening to them. Watched a family of them off and on all summer trotting by my window. It was fun watching the pups try to keep up in the tall grass.

[VT_Forestry]

Here's one that Mom got a picture of in the yard...looks like a German Shepard to me  :D

[clww]

Was that one in Newport News?

[SwampDonkey]

VT can answer for himself, but I think his folks are in Blacksburgh area.

[Wrangler55]

Here's my only coyote photo... This one was laying out in my hayfield. He let me set up my rifle, get my camera out, line up the photo, and load my rifle... He was just a little too curious for his own good.