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General Forestry => Tree, Plant and Wood I.D. => Topic started by: Peacock on April 11, 2013, 04:32:39 PM

Title: Help with id
Post by: Peacock on April 11, 2013, 04:32:39 PM
Got any idea what this is.  Been finding them along the edges of fields.  Range from 6" to 6' tall.  No large, mature examples nearby I've found.  The pics are in my gallery.  My PC at work isn't cooperating with me. :-[
Title: Re: Help with id
Post by: Peacock on April 11, 2013, 04:42:37 PM
Here goes...hopefully... :D


 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/30607/Phone_pics_923.jpg) 

 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/30607/Phone_pics_924.jpg) 

 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/30607/Phone_pics_925.jpg) 

 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/30607/Phone_pics_926.jpg)
Title: Re: Help with id
Post by: mesquite buckeye on April 11, 2013, 04:42:55 PM
Follow down on your gallery page and you will see a button, which after you highlight the photo, says: insert photo in post.....

Try that.

Where are you? It looks a little like a juniper, but the bark doesn't look like any I know.
Title: Re: Help with id
Post by: mesquite buckeye on April 11, 2013, 04:43:24 PM
Never mind. 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Help with id
Post by: mesquite buckeye on April 11, 2013, 04:44:15 PM
By the way, welcome :)
Title: Re: Help with id
Post by: Peacock on April 11, 2013, 04:47:34 PM
Thanks for the welcome!  Been lurking for years and years....

I'm in Indiana.  Curious how big these things might get.
Title: Re: Help with id
Post by: mesquite buckeye on April 11, 2013, 04:53:35 PM
So then it is most likely eastern red cedar, Juniperus virginiana. Looks kind of different from mine in Missouri, but they vary a lot. Up to 120', up to 4' diameter. Good luck ever seeing one that big. They do very poorly under hardwoods, much better in the sun. More realistically they might be 75' tall X 2 ft thick when they are real big. Yours have a way to go. If you want them to do anything, you have to remove the overhead trees shading them. They will speed up like crazy if they are happy.
Title: Re: Help with id
Post by: Peacock on April 11, 2013, 04:55:21 PM
Thanks.  I've moved them into the edges of our yard.  They will have pretty direct sunlight for atleast half the day. 
Title: Re: Help with id
Post by: mesquite buckeye on April 11, 2013, 04:59:32 PM
Don't let them dry out until they get established. A drought right after they go in can kill them. They make nice yard trees and nice lumber.
Title: Re: Help with id
Post by: beenthere on April 11, 2013, 05:23:32 PM
Welcome from here too.

The one in the bucket appears to have a dead top. May or may not take off when transplanted.
As little time in the bucket as possible, as the little hair-like roots dry out quickly.
Title: Re: Help with id
Post by: Peacock on April 11, 2013, 05:31:01 PM
None were out of ground for more than an hour.  All of them had some discoloring.  I've kept them real well watered for the past few days(nature did it today) and used a proven mixture of compost and Bayer tree and shrub protect and feed during the transplant.

Thanks again guys.  Now to get some elm pics up for id.  Haha
Title: Re: Help with id
Post by: Peacock on April 16, 2013, 04:11:11 PM
The more I look at my tree id book I don't think it's cedar.  Looks more like spruce to my eyes.  Atleast by comparing to the pics in the book.  One or two of the trees I transplanted appears to have some small cones developing now also.
Title: Re: Help with id
Post by: Jeff on April 16, 2013, 04:16:04 PM
It is definitely not spruce. It would be a ways south of its natural range, but I would say it in a common Juniper.
Title: Re: Help with id
Post by: clww on April 16, 2013, 04:18:04 PM
I agree with Jeff---juniper.
Title: Re: Help with id
Post by: LeeB on April 16, 2013, 04:33:48 PM
x3
Title: Re: Help with id
Post by: SwampDonkey on April 16, 2013, 05:20:07 PM
Juniper
Title: Re: Help with id
Post by: Peacock on April 16, 2013, 07:35:19 PM
Should I expect much from them?  How big do they generally get in a yard within a few years?
Title: Re: Help with id
Post by: Dodgy Loner on April 17, 2013, 02:20:06 AM
It is a juniper - specifically eastern red cedar (Juniperus virginiana). The reason it doesn't look like the cedar in your books is because you have a picture of juvenile foliage, which is different from the mature foliage. As the trees get older and the growth rate slows down, the leaves will become more scale-like than needle-like.