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General Forestry => Sawmills and Milling => Topic started by: 123maxbars on February 18, 2017, 07:22:57 AM

Title: Spalted Ash? Video attached
Post by: 123maxbars on February 18, 2017, 07:22:57 AM
I sawed up an Ash log yesterday that I forgot about. It was on the ground for just over a year. When I opened it up it appeared to have spalted, looked like ambrosia somewhat. I have attached a video I made of the process that shows the grain of the wood.  Also thought maybe that the ash beetle may cause this pattern? Anyways it was unusual for me at least and I thought I would share with other.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iRijTD61tg
Title: Re: Spalted Ash? Video attached
Post by: Ron Wenrich on February 18, 2017, 08:20:58 AM
Its been my experience that ash doesn't spalt.  What I think you have is powder post beetle or some other wood borer.  It came in after the log was down.  I have encountered it many times in ash that has laid too long before sawing, especially during the warmer months.  Ash gets powder post beetle pretty easily, compared to other woods.  I've seen ash yards that had a sprinkler systems on their log piles to keep the beetle in check.

The image comes up a 9:21 in the video.
Title: Re: Spalted Ash? Video attached
Post by: Bruno of NH on February 18, 2017, 08:28:12 AM
The big hardwood mill next to my house run sprinkler's all summer
Title: Re: Spalted Ash? Video attached
Post by: Jjoness4 on February 18, 2017, 09:56:28 AM
Great video Nathan.
B. Jones
Title: Re: Spalted Ash? Video attached
Post by: Remle on February 18, 2017, 12:00:57 PM
Here is a link on the topic of Spalt, put out by the Oregon State University College of Forestry
http://www.northernspalting.com/beginners-guide/
Title: Re: Spalted Ash? Video attached
Post by: Kbeitz on February 18, 2017, 03:21:17 PM
Quote from: Ron Wenrich on February 18, 2017, 08:20:58 AM
Its been my experience that ash doesn't spalt.  What I think you have is powder post beetle or some other wood borer.  It came in after the log was down.  I have encountered it many times in ash that has laid too long before sawing, especially during the warmer months.  Ash gets powder post beetle pretty easily, compared to other woods.  I've seen ash yards that had a sprinkler systems on their log piles to keep the beetle in check.

The image comes up a 9:21 in the video.

Go to google and type in spalted ash and then click on images.
You will see some very very nice spalted ash.
Title: Re: Spalted Ash? Video attached
Post by: brianb88 on February 18, 2017, 06:54:39 PM
Nice production. I always enjoy your videos
Title: Re: Spalted Ash? Video attached
Post by: Ron Wenrich on February 18, 2017, 08:06:00 PM
Quote from: Kbeitz on February 18, 2017, 03:21:17 PM
Go to google and type in spalted ash and then click on images.
You will see some very very nice spalted ash.

I still say that the video is bug damage and not spalt.
Title: Re: Spalted Ash? Video attached
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on February 18, 2017, 08:37:55 PM
If I ever win a debarker in a contest, I will give it to you.  :D Another good video.
Title: Re: Spalted Ash? Video attached
Post by: WDH on February 18, 2017, 08:43:33 PM
Definitely a wood borer beetle at the point that Ron mentions, but I think that the tunnels are too large for powderpost beetles.
Title: Re: Spalted Ash? Video attached
Post by: 123maxbars on February 18, 2017, 09:20:30 PM
Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on February 18, 2017, 08:37:55 PM
If I ever win a debarker in a contest, I will give it to you.  :D Another good video.

Thanks bud, let me know when you enter and I will be sure to push for your victory!!
Title: Re: Spalted Ash? Video attached
Post by: 123maxbars on February 18, 2017, 09:20:52 PM
Quote from: WDH on February 18, 2017, 08:43:33 PM
Definitely a wood borer beetle at the point that Ron mentions, but I think that the tunnels are too large for powderpost beetles.

That was my thoughts after more research, Thanks Danny!