2166 jonsered?

[Maine logger88]

Can you grind the baffles on the transfer port cover and make it a 2172 just like a 365/372xt? And is that all there is to it or is there something else you gota do? I'm seriously considering buying one and doing that mod it would be a fairly cheap way to get a 2172

[tlandrum]

yes that's all there is to it. take the cylinder from the saw and remove the transfer port covers. then grind the obstruction from the cover.

[Maine logger88]

OK thank you!

[David-L]

Tlandrum, Would that be the same on a 2165. i have a 2172 and would love another one. The 2165 runs an 18" bar and has been a very easy starting saw and runs well in extreme cold. one pull saw when warm  all the time. Dosen't tach out like the 2172 and runs at just over 12,000. Saw shop sets it to spec.

                                David l

[SawTroll]

Tlandrum, Would that be the same on a 2165. i have a 2172 and would love another one. The 2165 runs an 18" bar and has been a very easy starting saw and runs well in extreme cold. one pull saw when warm  all the time. Dosen't tach out like the 2172 and runs at just over 12,000. Saw shop sets it to spec.

                                David l

No, the 2165 has a true 65cc top end, so you would have to replace the complete top end.

[David-L]

Sawtroll, The high spec is 12,300 or so, can I tweak the high a bit. i mix johny 2 stroke oil 50;1.  2.3 gallons fuel, to the 6.4ounces of oil. The oil container is the one for 2.5 gallons of gas. I run 93 octane only.

                           David l

[coxy]

I cant tell much difference between the 66 and the72 but the price       66 is 150 bucks cheaper  8) 8)

[NCFarmboy]

2166 Jred, Husky 365XT is the best bang for buck in its class.  Got 2 Huskys and a Jred.  Torque monsters, lighter on fuel than reg 372's.  Been reading about clutch side bearing failures and cracked fuel lines on new saws w/low hrs.  My solution for bearings is 32:1 synthetic oil.  Fuel line replace w/Tygon.  Fuel line problem was reported by EHP.
Shep

[SawTroll]

Sawtroll, The high spec is 12,300 or so, can I tweak the high a bit.  ....

:P As far as I know, the recommended max is 13,600 - which also is where the rev limiter kicks in....

[Maine logger88]

David my old 365 which is the same as your 2165 revs 13500 that's where it was set 3 years ago and it has always worked well! Yeh where I'm looking the 2166 is almost 200 less. I have never run any of the strato saws except for my 562 but everyone I talk to seems to like there 2166/365 and 2172/372

[David-L]

I was told by the dealer that the 2165 was not a 13,500 saw but 12,500 max and more torque than the 2172. I will spin it up a bit. I run a 24" on the 2172 and it still has plenty of power, especially in softwoods. My 2159 limbing saw was not very old when it got a crack in the fuel line. All and all the red saws have been pretty good. The 2152 which sits outside by the wood boiler is the best saw I have ever owned in that cc class. one pull no matter how cold it is and plenty of bark for a 10lb saw.

                             David l

[Maine logger88]

Yeh I think that is what the book says I believe, but being the same bottom end as a 372 I figured 13500 wouldn't hurt it any it probably doesn't help the power having it turn 1000rpm more I just like it better for limbing. I was also told the 2165and the 365non xt was ported for lower rpm power. I run all husky and jred saws and both have treated me real well!

[Andyshine77]

All this talk about max RPM really means nothing, the engines needs to be tuned for proper air fuel mixture. The max listed rpm is a general number, every saw will be unique. One saw may run fine at 13,500 rpm, another may be screaming lean. The best way to properly tune a revlimited saw, is in the cut under some load. Warm the saw up, set the High speed needle stupid rich, now start cutting. As you're cutting slowly lean out the high speed needle until the saw just stops four stroking under load.

http://youtu.be/ulY5sU4axFQ   

[ehp]

I have 5 365xt's and everyone of them the fuel line went bad very fast and I put tygon line in and not had a single problem sense , its strange that none of my other husky saws have had a fuel line problem but just the 365xt

[David-L]

Andyshine, I pretty much tune by ear as i don't own a tach. Never blown a saw up by leaning it out.

                                David l

[coxy]

Andyshine, I pretty much tune by ear as i don't own a tach. Never blown a saw up by leaning it out.

                                David l

x2 on that

[missouriboy]

I have been looking at a 2166 really hard. Is a 372 worth the extra money.

[Andyshine77]

Andyshine, I pretty much tune by ear as i don't own a tach. Never blown a saw up by leaning it out.

                                David l

That's hard to do with revlimited saws, when the coil cuts in it sounds like four stroking. Many saws have been toasted because of revlimited coils. I tune by tach and ear, however I do prefer tuning by ear. Most new saws have limiting coils, so your best bet is tuning the saw in the cut, no guessing at that point. Their is a first time for everything.

[Andyshine77]

I have been looking at a 2166 really hard. Is a 372 worth the extra money.

If it's an Xtorque no. The only difference between the two is a restrictor in the transfers. Remove the restriction and you have yourself a 372.

[David-L]

Andshine77, Could you please explain the rev limiting coils or are they that simple , once they reach a certain output of juice thats it. I always take a dremel and a small screwdriver and get rid of those tabbs on the h/L jets on the carbs if they have them. They are a pain in the butt.

                                    David l

[SawTroll]

I was told by the dealer that the 2165 was not a 13,500 saw but 12,500 max and more torque than the 2172. ..... 

That was the traditional 65cc 365/2165, not the 365xt/2166 - and the "more torque" statement never was true.

[David-L]

SawTroll, I have the traditional 2165, If I did set it by a tach to start where would you tach it to.

                                                             David l

[Andyshine77]

SawTroll, I have the traditional 2165, If I did set it by a tach to start where would you tach it to.

                                                             David l

12,200 is nice and safe, the book says 12,500

David when it pertains to limited coils, your train of thought is correct. The coil starts cutting signal, which cuts current. If you listen to my video you will hear the saw start out rich, then it will clear up. Now at the end of the video when I lift the saw up to make another cut, you can briefly her the limiter, it sounds sharp tapping like. That saw is ported, so it hits the limiter pretty hard.

[David-L]

Thanks, That is kinda what I thought. I think I might buy a tach at some point soon. Any suggestions.

                      David l

[SawTroll]

SawTroll, I have the traditional 2165, If I did set it by a tach to start where would you tach it to.

                                                             David l

12,200 is nice and safe, the book says 12,500.  .....

Yes, for a traditional 2165/365.