OK, I well know when you get your truck stuck, you generally made a foolish mistake. Mine was not thinking that maybe the Tree Farm got more rain this weekend than we got at home, and also, I did not get out and walk the area out where I attempted to back the trailer. When the truck slipped sideways a bit, I knew that I was stuck. I unhitched the trailer and tried to ease out forward.....nope. Next it was hooking the tractor to the truck. Again, nope.
Thankfully, a couple of weeks after I got the new truck, my grill guard and new 12K MileMarker winch came in.
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Today would be the day to try it out. I set the brakes on the JD and chocked the wheels to keep it from skidding backwards.
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Then chained my snatch block to the tractor.
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The double line and the 12K MileMarker worked fine.
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About now is when I smiled.
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A mighty fine investment ready for it's next job. :)
Is your truck not a 4x4? :-\
One of the reasons my pickup has locking differentials and mud tires, so I don't get stuck multiple times daily around the farm.
It is better to have ,then not to have. :D
MM good thing you put that winch on right away.
Let's give a little credit to John Deere! :D
I like the supplemental brakes on the JD ;D.
Kinda reminds me of this song
http://youtu.be/pDY6bWT5oTM
Now we need a picture with the mud on the truck 8)
Nick
now u have to get the trailer out..lol
Quote from: shelbycharger400 on August 20, 2012, 09:16:02 PM
now u have to get the trailer out..lol
say_what I forgot about that.
Step one.
1). Get the Jeep stuck
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Step two.
2). Get the tractor stuck trying to get the stuck Jeep un-stucked.
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Step three.
(Requires at least one more tractor :)).
Y A W N .......I'll bring my NEW HOLLAND. :D
It must be a Real Tractor ???.
Yes, 4X4, limited slip & locking differentials. The factory tires certainly are not good grip tires, but I may have spun deeper if they had been, but I usually know when to stop trying. If it ain't moving stop spinning.
I backed the JD down to the unloaded trailer and easily pulled it out.
Without those highly engineered wheel chocks, I was simply winching the tractor backwards. :-\
2 things you need
1) mud tires
2) 4 wheel drive :(
i just read your post if thats 4 wheel you need driving lessons
MM, make sure there is a tree nearby when you do get stuck.bg
Now you can change this thread to "Un-stuck" 8)
Quote from: red oaks lumber on August 20, 2012, 09:37:55 PM
i just read your post if thats 4 wheel you need driving lessons
Meaning??
Quote from: Magicman on August 20, 2012, 09:47:26 PM
Quote from: red oaks lumber on August 20, 2012, 09:37:55 PM
i just read your post if thats 4 wheel you need driving lessons
Meaning??
He's from Wisconsin. He doesn't know your soil type. :D
food6 Danny......pass the POPCORN.
I hate it when that happens ;D
Quote from: Okrafarmer on August 20, 2012, 10:01:58 PM
He's from Wisconsin. He doesn't know your soil type. :D
Assuming that is clay we have Plenty of it in Wisconsin and Michigan. Could start making flower pots and roofing tiles from the stuff around here. hahaha
Thus the need for aggressive tires that don't turn into glazed donuts as soon as they make one revolution.
The "Engines" used to mix red clay and straw to make bricks. :)
MM definitely get the mud grips that way next time you'll be twice as stuck :). A couple winters ago when we had snow in feet all winter long I spent most time driving my IH 1486 with the three point gnuse loader on the back, someone said to me I guess you aren't planning on getting stuck, I said no that's just assurance I'll get another 20 yards into the drift before I have to call for help, I was right on several occasions ::). That slimy stuff is definitely worse than deep stuff IMO.
Four to six inches of topsoil with blue "pipe" clay underneath. No rocks.
Good job getting 'er unstuck. Your driving skills are fine. Sometimes, mud happens.
At least you were not in a park that looked like a road and the police were not involved (my early college days). :) ::)
nas...... thanks for the song. Never thought getting stuck could be put to music but that was special! 8) 8)
I will get busy on a load of rocks to fill in the ruts you made. :D It's good to have equipment to help out when you get into a mess.
If there's one thing about ROL is he's direct. :D
I try not to get myself in those situations but my son once buried my brand new 4x4 truck just like yours in a freshly plowed field. His excuse was he didn't want to tear up the grass set aside strip. Mine involved a trackhoe and quite a bit of chain to reach him.
Of course we won't talk about how I had that same excavator so buried next to a pond I was working on that it took my D-6 and some impressive chains to pull it out. ;)
Aren't those tow hooks on the front handy as heck!
Norm,
When you get stuck, you really do a good job of it :D.
Norm,it;s gets kinda scary when them things of that size don't move. Down where my Aunt lives is alot of clay. I saw a famer with a big JD,duels all the way around, a skidder and a bull dozer stuck in a field. Proably he was on his way back with the excavator. :D
Quote from: thecfarm on August 21, 2012, 07:24:50 AM
I will get busy on a load of rocks to fill in the ruts you made. :D It's good to have equipment to help out when you get into a mess.
No ruts. I doubt that I cut deeper than 4" and they will fill over quickly with the next good rain.
Funny thing is that the main reason for the trip to the farm was to fix the tractor. While bushhogging the last time, a keeper came loose and the rod that goes through the differential and holds the draft links had slipped releasing most of my hydraulic fluid. I was limping the tractor along during the un-stucking. I did not want to completely dis-able the tractor before the truck was un-stuck.
Afterwards, I pulled out my buckets of parts and cobbled the tractor back together. :)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/21659/005%7E1.JPG) This was a good one...
Driving lessons !!!! He did the right thing, no matter what type of tire you have on the truck, in that soil , you aint going nowheres soon. Some clay ya just don't mess with ;D :D
Danny, what did you plant in that clay next ???
Magicman, Impressive rig to get stuck in the mud. Who washed her off when you got home? When I worked in the gas fields we depended on winches regularly (before the winch was the go-devil, or "come-a-long"), and a valuable lesson learned was to always throw a coat, shirt, or something over the cable when pulling. If the cable snaps the recoil is dampened and the cable will not fly back. In our part of WV a winch is a great friend to have. It's better to have it and not use it, than need one and not have it. Still a "purty" rig, mud or not.
Quote from: Magicman on August 20, 2012, 10:37:08 PM
Four to six inches of topsoil with blue "pipe" clay underneath. No rocks.
Oh yeah about like these parts under certain conditions .Just about as bad were it grease over top of wet concrete for all intents .
Yes, the first time I got a tractor stuck in the south I was pretty embarrassed because it was still sitting there on top of the soil, and I'd never seen a tractor that couldn't go before, if the bottom of the tires were still showing! :o In Maine, we usually sink in quite a bit. I had a 4240 John Deere stuck up to the axles once.
Quote from: WDH on August 20, 2012, 09:24:49 PM
Step one.
1). Get the Jeep stuck
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Step two.
2). Get the tractor stuck trying to get the stuck Jeep un-stucked.
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Step three.
(Requires at least one more tractor :)).
That reminds me of a neighbor of mine who got his combine stuck cutting(or trying to) beans and 3 tractors stuck in a row trying to pull it out.
A fella stopped by and asked if he needed a wrecker to pull all that stuff out of the mud and he replied that he was lining his equipment up for the auction! :D PC
When a new neighbor saw the winch on the front of my truck he asked "You get stuck often?"
I replied "Not since I got the winch!" :D :D
Wise choice to stop and seek other means of escape there MM.
lots of times, even with the most agressive mud tires, once in the clay layer, if you don't spin the tires enough to clean out the tire lugs, the mud grips become useless. And on the other hand, if one does attmpt to clean out the tires while trying to get free, they stand the chance burying up to the frame.
I have learned by experience over the years that it is much easier to quit spinning while you still have a chance, and not to stick it beyond your means to un-stick it.
Quote from: Magicman on August 21, 2012, 12:18:55 PM
I have learned by experience over the years that it is much easier to quit spinning while you still have a chance, and not to stick it beyond your means to un-stick it.
I learned that in the John Deere 4240 experience. After that-- I stop when I can't go any more.
most times reading the situation before hand will result in not getting stuck.
9 months of the year we drive in snow or mud so you learn real fast how not to drive.
I believe MM knew EXACTLY what He was doing. I'll bet He got er stuck on purpose just to play with that new winch. :)
getting stuck can be quite an adventure.
Maybe a read of my OP would be in order. I readily admitted to my original mistake. I was in a hurry and did not realize that the rainfall this past weekend 45 miles from home had been that much greater than at home.
This situation was a bit touchy because I knew that I was working with a crippled tractor.
I appreciate a good laugh, and I do not mind others laughing with me.
That's when things happen,when I feel I don't have time. But after IT happens,I have time to get myself out of the mess that I did not have time for. :D
A John Deere is never crippled......she may limp sometimes but NEVER crippled. :)
All I can say is that I have been stuck with the best of em :).
Yup, I did originally say limp. Of course with 90% of the hydraulic fluid gone, it was really limping. I did not want to tear into fixing the tractor before the truck was un-stuck, because a limp is/was better than nothing. ;D
And by the way, have you priced tractor fluid lately. :o I felt lucky getting a 5 gallon bucket of it for $35 including tax. Most places were $40 + tax. :-\
I have been stuck bad a few times.
I know that tire chains can take you from "sorta" stuck to "really" stuck
You tend to get stuck worser with 4 wheel drive because you go into places that you should not. Maybe the 4 wheel capability makes you stupid, sometimes. Then you say, "Why did I do that?"
I had a '78 Power Wagon 8) and I only got it stuck twice. Both times it was in very deep snow, because I went off the shoulder of the road into the plow-pack and sank to the body. Other than that, I drove it in some fairly stupid places and never got it stuck. Tires were new but only street treads, barely what I would call aggressive.
I have had 4 wd trucks or Jeeps for over 40 years and sometimes was amazed at how nasty of a spot I made it through and then was equally amazed at how I got stuck in a spot that looked easy to get through. Sometimes nice smooth grassy areas like pastures will let you drive across one time when it's wet but if you stop or try it twice the sod breaks and your done. Been there, done that!
Paul that combine story sounds like something my bil did. My neighbor topped him though, I was across the fence combining east and west he was running north and south, they have the biggest (I think) that JD makes with a 12 row head and we pretty well were meeting at the fenceline every round. I turned around at the opposite end of the field about 3/4 of a mile from him and couldn't figure out what looked so funny until I got back to the other end, he'd hit a hole and all you could see was the very back of the combine sticking up over the corn :o. Luckily he didn't go through the windshield but he did break one of the cylinders under the head and it took one of their big 4 wheel drives a LONG time to drag/dig him back out.
My best all time mud truck was a 1968 Bronco, that had limited slip, front and rear. I cut the fenders out and installed fiberglas flairs so larger "mudder" tires would fit. Yes, I did use the 4K Warn winch a few times, but mostly to pull someone else out.
Worst stuck for me was driving my tricycle front IH 656 farm tractor down into a swampy area in the winter, thinking it would be frozen. It was frozen enough for me to drive into it, but once I got turned around and was about to head out with a log, that's when I broke through. I was almost up to the axles. We didn't have anything to unstick a tractor ???
I took 2 heavy cables and fastened them to the outside of the wheel., and wrapped a few turns around the axle. I tied them to two trees directly in front on the tractor. Drove forward...it pulled itself out as the tires spun! I wouldn't try that often, but desperate times call for desperate measures!
I have chained a 6" X 8' log to the rear tractor tires. You then ride up and over the log which has to be moved back to the front and re-chained. It is not a pretty sight doing it, but you will get un-stuck. I hope that I do not ever have to do it again, but I do still have those two short chains.
Quote from: tyb525 on August 21, 2012, 10:26:01 PM
Worst stuck for me was driving my tricycle front IH 656 farm tractor down into a swampy area in the winter, thinking it would be frozen. It was frozen enough for me to drive into it, but once I got turned around and was about to head out with a log, that's when I broke through. I was almost up to the axles. We didn't have anything to unstick a tractor ???
I took 2 heavy cables and fastened them to the outside of the wheel., and wrapped a few turns around the axle. I tied them to two trees directly in front on the tractor. Drove forward...it pulled itself out as the tires spun! I wouldn't try that often, but desperate times call for desperate measures!
I did the same thing with Dad's John Deere B. It works pretty good. To clarify, I think you meant the axle on the outside side of the rear wheel, correct? That is what I did. On most of those row crop tractors, the bar axle sticks out beyond the wheel (unless you have the wheels spread out wide). Thus you use that axle end sticking out as a windlass. I had to do that to keep the old B from freezing back into the ice. It was getting dark, Dad was gone to work 2nd shift, and I did not want to have to come back and chip it out of the ice the next day. As you said, desperate times, desperate measures. The nearest tree in a straight line was too far away, and I only had two chains that together were too short. So I thought about it a while ??? ::) and then realized I need a force multiplier for the chains. So I cut a length of a pulp log and chained both the chains to the pulp log, one chain to the tree, one chain to the tractor wheel. That got me the length I needed, and I got out. Okrafarmer has learned a number of tricks over the years. Living in Maine and South Carolina will do that to you-- if you pay attention, and use your head for more than just a hat rack. ;D I have an idea I would learn even more about it if I moved to Mississippi or Louisiana. :-\
Quote from: Magicman on August 21, 2012, 10:37:43 PM
I have chained a 6" X 8' log to the rear tractor tires. You then ride up and over the log which has to be moved back to the front and re-chained. It is not a pretty sight doing it, but you will get un-stuck. I hope that I do not ever have to do it again, but I do still have those two short chains.
That does indeed work. Care must be taken if you don't have a rops or heavy set of fenders-- if I tried that on the JD B, for instance, and didn't stop in time, it could clean my clock. hurt_smiley
The good thing about a 4WD articulated loader is that you can often get out of a tight situation by cranking the steering wheel around to one side or the other. That puts all the wheels up against some undisturbed soil/dirt/mud. You can get some extra help by curling the the bucket down and driving it into the ground, then curling it back up as you gently back out.
The bad thing is that if you try all that and it doesn't work, you are really stuck.
Sorry, no picture. Imagine a Cat 910 loader sitting on it's axles in the mud.
Nice thing is your not stuck your just slowed down to old timers chain a post to the tire's and roll front to back a few feet at a time LOL
"No, I didn't get the tractor stuck! Are you crazy? Haven't you ever seen anyone harvesting mud pies before?"
"No I didn't get this truck stuck under the bridge! Are you crazy? I was delivering this bridge to someone, and I ran out of fuel!"
"I'm not stuck, I'm doing a viscosity test!"
"I'm not stuck, I'm digging a well with my tractor!"
"The tractor's not stuck. I'm burying it so no one will steal it."
"To you, this may look like the top of a bulldozer sticking out of the mud, but I'm telling you, it's just some playground equipment I'm installing for my kids."
"No, it's not a skidder stuck in the mud. What you are looking at is a genuine stationary winch."
"What? You think this is the engine end of a tractor sticking up out of the ground? You dummy, this is my stationary engine. It's a power unit I sometimes use to run my sawmill."
"Y'all city folks don't know nothin."
sweet okra! Im not stuck I like playing in the mud 8) beats work!!!
Thankfully the old Oliver backhoe has enough hydraulics to get itself out.
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Even with one broken stabilizer cylinder.
That's a real classic, MM. What model is it? Looks like an industrial version of an 1850, 1855.
Quote from: Okrafarmer on August 22, 2012, 08:26:25 AM
That's a real classic, MM. What model is it? Looks like an industrial version of an 1850, 1855.
Okra.....they didn't make backhoes back in 1850 and 1855.......duhhhhhh!!!!! :D :D :D :D
1968, 1650.
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I do not do much digging with it, but it is a log handling fool.
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They;re a good machine. I always liked the Olivers. Would love to have one some day.
I too as well have always liked the Oliver's had a 55 Super that I bought at a action as my first tractor since I left the farm. Then I found out it was a Collector's item So I sold it and got my Massy they just wanted to much for parts and heck in one of my life's I was a Mechanic at heart and I wanted a working tractor. It did sell for 4x the Action price might have had a little to do with how I got my Massey. 8)
Amazing what a little loader "kung fu" will get you out of isn't it with the tractor.
I got to see MM's Oliver while I was there. That's a very nice piece of vintage equipment there.