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Started by KirkD, January 07, 2016, 08:00:23 PM

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Kbeitz

Quote from: KirkD on January 09, 2016, 12:33:03 PM
Going to try to tow it back we are thinking since the wheels are off it may be just ice. Today we are in a holding pattern due to ice and freezing rain.

Hey... If the roads are all ice you should not have a problem moveing it brakes froze or not and
you would be sure to get a free video from some one who posted you on U-tube pulling it.
Collector and builder of many things.
Love machine shop work
and Wood work shop work
And now a saw mill work

47sawdust

Yeah,like the state police.
Mick
1997 WM Lt30 1999 WM twin blade edger Kubota L3750 Tajfun winchGood Health Work is my hobby.

larrydown60

Just unplug the brake controller from the back of it. If the brakes are frozen drive forward and backwards a couple times they usually free up. Good luck

Darrel

My 1992 also has the hydraulic surge breaks and because I'm in Utah right now and my mill is in Oregon, I can't just go out and look at it.  Went to my account at Wood-Mizer's online store and looked it up and they show nothing on the breaks for my sawmill.  Guess that means that we'll have to go elsewhere to get parts. 
1992 LT40HD

If I don't pick myself up by my own bootstraps, nobody else will.

Ocklawahaboy

Quote from: Darrel on January 09, 2016, 09:16:51 PM
My 1992 also has the hydraulic surge breaks and because I'm in Utah right now and my mill is in Oregon, I can't just go out and look at it.  Went to my account at Wood-Mizer's online store and looked it up and they show nothing on the breaks for my sawmill.  Guess that means that we'll have to go elsewhere to get parts.
There are things that I can't find on their online store.  Give them a call.  I would be shocked if they didn't have parts for a mill they built.

terrifictimbersllc

Quote from: Darrel on January 09, 2016, 09:16:51 PM
My 1992 also has the hydraulic surge breaks and because I'm in Utah right now and my mill is in Oregon, I can't just go out and look at it.  Went to my account at Wood-Mizer's online store and looked it up and they show nothing on the breaks for my sawmill.  Guess that means that we'll have to go elsewhere to get parts.
For my WM mill, in the Woodmizer online store, I click....
Parts Selector
Name of my sawmill in the equipment listing
Category = Trailer Options
Section = (yours would be Surge Brake Trailer)
Assembly = Trailer Axle Assembly

HOWEVER.....while they have tire/wheel, bearings, Axle, they don't sell brake shoes or other brake parts for the axle. 

For brake parts you would need to get the axle specification from Wood-Mizer and then go to Dexter Axle (they have a good online store), a trailer place, or pick them up at NAPA.   

It would be nice to open them up to find out what's going on first then go into town and get what you need.

It could well be that the emergency breakaway switch was pulled (plunger missing), the breaks went on until the battery died, then stuck.  IF there's corrosion inside you might be better off getting the whole assembly with backing plate probably only double the cost of shoes if you buy it right.
DJ Hoover, Terrific Timbers LLC,  Mystic CT Woodmizer Million Board Foot Club member. 2019 LT70 Super Wide 55 Yanmar,  LogRite fetching arch, WM BMS250 sharpener/BMT250 setter.  2001 F350 7.3L PSD 6 spd manual ZF 4x4 Crew Cab Long Bed

KirkD

Quote from: terrifictimbersllc on January 09, 2016, 01:47:40 PM
Probably better take the safest option now that all the planning has been posted online.   ;)

Good point.... Lol got it home "safely" after prying the drums off and getting the stuck shoes off the drum.
Wood-mizer LT40HD-G24 Year 1989

KirkD

Quote from: larrydown60 on January 09, 2016, 09:06:05 PM
Just unplug the brake controller from the back of it. If the brakes are frozen drive forward and backwards a couple times they usually free up. Good luck

Oh they were stuck
Wood-mizer LT40HD-G24 Year 1989

KirkD

Quote from: Darrel on January 09, 2016, 09:16:51 PM
My 1992 also has the hydraulic surge breaks and because I'm in Utah right now and my mill is in Oregon, I can't just go out and look at it.  Went to my account at Wood-Mizer's online store and looked it up and they show nothing on the breaks for my sawmill.  Guess that means that we'll have to go elsewhere to get parts.
The way I will go is to buy new backing plate assemblies and converting it to electric. Since they are Dexter axles you can by the whole assembly for not much more than replacement shoes.

I will try to post some pictures later when the fog is gone and it warms up. 

Thank you for everyone's input.
Wood-mizer LT40HD-G24 Year 1989

Percy

Quote from: KirkD on January 10, 2016, 11:25:40 AM

The way I will go is to buy new backing plate assemblies and converting it to electric. Since they are Dexter axles you can by the whole assembly for not much more than replacement shoes.

I will try to post some pictures later when the fog is gone and it warms up. 

Thank you for everyone's input.

Good choice Im thinking. Once you get over paying for all that, you will be able to drag that mill anywheres there is logs to be cut. When I got my first LT40, I had nothing but a canthook(pre logrite days) to move logs so I just moved the mill to where the log was..10 miniutes tops and I was cutting. Great days a comming :D
GOLDEN RULE : The guy with the gold, makes the rules.

Darrel

@terrifictimbers  In the selection process, when I click on category it says "There are no options in this category."

@KirkD  That is exactly what I'm going to do. And glad you got your new to you mill home.
1992 LT40HD

If I don't pick myself up by my own bootstraps, nobody else will.

KirkD

Quote from: Darrel on January 10, 2016, 11:49:37 AM
@terrifictimbers  In the selection process, when I click on category it says "There are no options in this category."

@KirkD  That is exactly what I'm going to do. And glad you got your new to you mill home.

Six Robblees'  is in Portland, Eugene and Medford and is a Dexter distributor. A friend told me though that Coyote Steel in Eugene has better prices.
Wood-mizer LT40HD-G24 Year 1989

KirkD

Ok we all like pictures





It was converted to electric but I am going back to gas for my application.



Got a planer with it that needs cleaned up



Ok is this part of the shake attachment or?



The 12' extension is missing the jack stands but he thinks he knows where they are along with the trailer fenders.

I also got the orignal manual, a Woodmizer auto sharpener and tooth setter which is pretty rough since they were outside. Oh and 40 bands which half are new.

Wood-mizer LT40HD-G24 Year 1989

terrifictimbersllc

Quote from: KirkD on January 10, 2016, 11:54:07 AM
Quote from: Darrel on January 10, 2016, 11:49:37 AM
@terrifictimbers  In the selection process, when I click on category it says "There are no options in this category."
You can only select parts for a piece of equipment listed in the parts selector.   After I click on shop parts, I see this (only showing a partial view because I don't want to post all my info showing there): 



 

Do you see your sawmill? Maybe not if you haven't registered it yet there?

Then I click on the LT40HDD42RA and then I go to the next screen where "Categories" shows. 
DJ Hoover, Terrific Timbers LLC,  Mystic CT Woodmizer Million Board Foot Club member. 2019 LT70 Super Wide 55 Yanmar,  LogRite fetching arch, WM BMS250 sharpener/BMT250 setter.  2001 F350 7.3L PSD 6 spd manual ZF 4x4 Crew Cab Long Bed

KirkD

Quote from: terrifictimbersllc on January 10, 2016, 12:16:13 PM
Quote from: KirkD on January 10, 2016, 11:54:07 AM
Quote from: Darrel on January 10, 2016, 11:49:37 AM
@terrifictimbers  In the selection process, when I click on category it says "There are no options in this category."
You can only select parts for a piece of equipment listed in the parts selector.   After I click on shop parts, I see this (only showing a partial view because I don't want to post all my info showing there): 



 

Do you see your sawmill? Maybe not if you haven't registered it yet there?

Then I click on the LT40HDD42RA and then I go to the next screen where "Categories" shows.

Obviously since I just got it yesterday I don't have a account yet. But I see no reason to order dexter brake parts and have them shipped when I can drive to town and pick them up.
Wood-mizer LT40HD-G24 Year 1989

Remle

KirkD
I just replaced the backing plates and master cylinder on my machine, decided to stay with the surge break system. Got them from Eastern Marine & Trailer Parts Super Store for 1/2 the price the local dealer wanted, they also have the elect. parts if you chose to go that way. My trailer axle was a 7000#, it should be listed in the manuals you got.

Sixacresand

KrikD, looks like you got a great deal
"Sometimes you can make more hay with less equipment if you just use your head."  Tom, Forestry Forum.  Tenth year with a LT40 Woodmizer,

47sawdust

KirkD,
Did you tow the mill behind the trailer? ;D ;D ;D
Not mentioning names but others here have actually done that.
Mick
1997 WM Lt30 1999 WM twin blade edger Kubota L3750 Tajfun winchGood Health Work is my hobby.

KirkD

Quote from: 47sawdust on January 10, 2016, 02:39:35 PM
KirkD,
Did you tow the mill behind the trailer? ;D ;D ;D
Not mentioning names but others here have actually done that.

No we had two trucks.  I have always wanted to do that but here in Oregon they frown on that.
Wood-mizer LT40HD-G24 Year 1989

Darrel

Quote from: KirkD on January 10, 2016, 02:54:02 PM
Quote from: 47sawdust on January 10, 2016, 02:39:35 PM
KirkD,
Did you tow the mill behind the trailer? ;D ;D ;D
Not mentioning names but others here have actually done that.

No we had two trucks.  I have always wanted to do that but here in Oregon they frown on that.
You can do that if your trailer is a goose neck and you have the appropriate driver's license certifications.
1992 LT40HD

If I don't pick myself up by my own bootstraps, nobody else will.

Brucer

Quote from: KirkD on January 10, 2016, 12:09:46 PM
Ok is this part of the shake attachment or?



On the left side of your trailer you've got a shingle/lap siding fixture. To make siding you clamp a cant into the fixture. The lever tilts the cant to one side. To make singles, you clamp individual shingle-wide blocks into the fixture -- one block per clamp. The lever raises and lowers one end of all the blocks simultaneously.

On the right side of your trailers is a resaw unit. Clamp the fixture to the bed of your mill. Clamp the carriage to the rails (there should be a couple of stops that clamp on the top rail). Plug your carriage feed wire into the 12 V motor on the fixture (the fixture includes a set of plugs that you can splice into your carriage feed wire so it can plug into the sawmill or the fixture). Use the carriage speed control to set your resaw attachment to  the correct speed, set the saw height to whatever thickness you want, then feed boards into the attachment. Works best with someone on each side of the carriage.

I'm pretty sure you can tilt the resaw so you can make beveled siding as well.
Bruce    LT40HDG28 bandsaw
"Complex problems have simple, easy to understand wrong answers."

KirkD

Quote from: Brucer on January 10, 2016, 03:59:59 PM
Quote from: KirkD on January 10, 2016, 12:09:46 PM
Ok is this part of the shake attachment or?



On the left side of your trailer you've got a shingle/lap siding fixture. To make siding you clamp a cant into the fixture. The lever tilts the cant to one side. To make singles, you clamp individual shingle-wide blocks into the fixture -- one block per clamp. The lever raises and lowers one end of all the blocks simultaneously.

On the right side of your trailers is a resaw unit. Clamp the fixture to the bed of your mill. Clamp the carriage to the rails (there should be a couple of stops that clamp on the top rail). Plug your carriage feed wire into the 12 V motor on the fixture (the fixture includes a set of plugs that you can splice into your carriage feed wire so it can plug into the sawmill or the fixture). Use the carriage speed control to set your resaw attachment to  the correct speed, set the saw height to whatever thickness you want, then feed boards into the attachment. Works best with someone on each side of the carriage.

I'm pretty sure you can tilt the resaw so you can make beveled siding as well.

Thank you Bruce, Where "if" they had used the resaw on it would the plug in for it be on the saw?
Wood-mizer LT40HD-G24 Year 1989

Darrel

Quote from: KirkD on January 10, 2016, 12:09:46 PM

It was converted to electric but I am going back to gas for my application.


I'd go with diesel if I could find an engine at the right price and the mill head could handle the extra weight.
1992 LT40HD

If I don't pick myself up by my own bootstraps, nobody else will.

red

Did I miss it ?  Whats the Measurements ? ? ?
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KirkD

Quote from: red on January 11, 2016, 05:48:47 AM
Did I miss it ?  Whats the Measurements ? ? ?

It ended up being 72" and would have fit on the trailer but am glad we did it the way we did.
Wood-mizer LT40HD-G24 Year 1989

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