New saw came back beat up

Spike60 · March 14, 2018, 11:48:45 AM

Wow, that is great!!

And this one probably won't have that carb issue you had to deal with on the original saw.

Congrats!

MNBobcat · March 14, 2018, 12:01:19 PM

Spike,

That's what I'm hoping! I'm pretty certain the underlying issue with my saw was never fixed. I was concerned it would reoccur next winter when it gets cold again.

I'm happy to have a chance to have a properly working saw.

Tin Horse · March 14, 2018, 01:11:06 PM

That's great news ! your persistence paid off. My greatest fear is taking equipment in for repairs no matter what it is. I took my new fishing boat back 3 times (under warranty) and because the computer hook up didn't identify the issue they couldn't figure it out. Each time it sat in a unsecured field. When I finally brought it home I had to winterize it a second time. It was during a snow storm.
I from now on specify how my equipment will be cared for or I go somewhere else. ( when possible).
You made an example of them and that's good.

MNBobcat · March 14, 2018, 01:13:32 PM

When I get this new saw the dealer won't be fueling it up for the first time and setting the carb.

I don't have a tach for a chainsaw. If I make sure the saw is 4-stroking just a bit in the cut, I should be safe, correct? Better to be a little rich than too lean.

My son in-law does a lot of motorycle work and he may have a tach he uses on a motorcycle. Anyone know if that would work on a chainsaw too? I have no idea what a tach for a chainsaw looks like or how it works.

Thanks!

thecfarm · March 14, 2018, 02:20:37 PM

That is good news. I myself don't know how to set a saw up. I would take it to the dealer and have them do it.
If you did it,warranty??

MNBobcat · March 14, 2018, 02:24:49 PM

Quote from: thecfarm on March 14, 2018, 02:20:37 PM
That is good news. I myself don't know how to set a saw up. I would take it to the dealer and have them do it.
If you did it,warranty??

It's a 2 hour round trip to the dealer. I can't (don't want to) make another trip to them. But they do know that I know how to adjust the carbs so I don't think they would dispute anything if I had a problem with the saw down the road.

Southside · March 14, 2018, 03:35:24 PM

Yup 2 hours is a long drive, but personally after all of this - I would find someone who can set it up the way Makita will warranty it, maybe another dealer. You don't want to hear a loud screech and wonder if they will come good the second time.

Tin Horse · March 14, 2018, 04:38:27 PM

Apparently many saws can't have carb adjustments done anymore??? I took my 1 1/2 year old Dolomar 5100s back thinking it needed carb adjusted. It would only all of a sudden come up to about half power. Carb is pre set and shouldn't be touched dealer said. Special tool anyway. Ended up being the coil. $200.00 later and just past warranty.

MNBobcat · March 14, 2018, 06:19:03 PM

Quote from: Tin Horse on March 14, 2018, 04:38:27 PM
Apparently many saws can't have carb adjustments done anymore??? I took my 1 1/2 year old Dolomar 5100s back thinking it needed carb adjusted. It would only all of a sudden come up to about half power. Carb is pre set and shouldn't be touched dealer said. Special tool anyway. Ended up being the coil. $200.00 later and just past warranty.

They can be adjusted. You need a special tool which you can get on amazon and then there may be caps on the needles where you may need to remove those caps before adjusting.

HolmenTree · March 14, 2018, 08:26:09 PM

That's a heck of a good deal ,it took me lots of wrangling to get a replacement for my brand new lemon from the factory 550XP that only had 1 1/2 hour on it.
Too bad I didn't know that Husqvarna offers a 1week return policy if you're not happy with the saw.

You may want to think twice about doing the saw setup yourself. That just may be enough grounds for them to not honor future warranty.

John Mc · March 15, 2018, 12:19:13 AM

Quote from: MNBobcat on March 14, 2018, 01:13:32 PMIf I make sure the saw is 4-stroking just a bit in the cut, I should be safe, correct? Better to be a little rich than too lean.

There are others on here who know a whole lot more about this than I do, but I believe you want it 4-stroking just a bit at full throttle when out of the cut, and it should "clean up" when in the cut.

HolmenTree · March 15, 2018, 12:53:01 AM

Well said John.

LeeB · March 15, 2018, 01:14:53 AM

Will this replacement saw come with a new saw warranty or just continue with your original warranty?

starmac · March 15, 2018, 03:37:25 AM

Generally it continues with the original warranty, if like anything else.

LeeB · March 15, 2018, 03:51:21 AM

As would be expected. Can't really see getting a new warranty for a replacement. Warranty or no, they did good.

teakwood · March 15, 2018, 07:46:23 AM

That's really a good deal!

John Mc · March 15, 2018, 08:07:57 AM

Quote from: John Mc on March 15, 2018, 12:19:13 AM
Quote from: MNBobcat on March 14, 2018, 01:13:32 PMIf I make sure the saw is 4-stroking just a bit in the cut, I should be safe, correct? Better to be a little rich than too lean.

There are others on here who know a whole lot more about this than I do, but I believe you want it 4-stroking just a bit at full throttle when out of the cut, and it should "clean up" when in the cut.

More on this... Madsen's has a good Chainsaw Maintenance and Repair page. Check out the link to Saw Tuning. It includes an audio file of what it should sound like. (NOTE: typical speakers in a laptop are of too poor a quality to hear this well. BEst to play it through some good speakers - maybe some decent headphones would work OK?)

mike_belben · March 15, 2018, 02:53:37 PM

Quote from: Tin Horse on March 14, 2018, 04:38:27 PM
Carb is pre set and shouldn't be touched dealer said.

Next time ask them if the weather comes preset too. You ever seen a 2 stroke motorcross where carbs arent get dialed in between every single heat?

10 degree temp change, time to get the screwdriver.

Yes follow madsens. I can give you cliff notes. Get it running and crank up idle speed. Now twist the L screw in and out listening for the highest idle you can achieve. Leave it there and back the idle screw to normal so chain stops walking. Rev it up and get the H screw turned out far enough to be raspy when free revving. In the cut under load it should "shift" from 4 stroking to 2 stroking. Burbly and raspy to screamy and sharp. I consider where i can push into the wood or lift a hair and switch notes on command to be the ideal high speed setting.

IMO, dont break it in too easy. But then again i wont warranty this info either.

I still say the shine is concrete skidding on a shop floor. The gouges look like where it was piled onto a work bench full of other sharp metallic junk. The chain catcher is obviously a thrown chain. Thats a consequence of some slob who didnt care to tighten it up as it go hot and sagged off the bar. Maybe even run it out of bar oil.