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Loblolly, Longleaf or Shortleaf
« on: May 05, 2021, 07:43:09 PM »
I know Loblolly pine is good, but what about Longleaf and shortleaf and maybe Slash pine for dimensional lumber?  I thought before I put forth the effort to cut any down I would tap into this vast resource of knowledge.
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Re: Loblolly, Longleaf or Shortleaf
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2021, 07:48:00 PM »
  Aren't they all just listed as SYP with pretty much the same characteristics?
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Re: Loblolly, Longleaf or Shortleaf
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2021, 07:59:44 PM »
Longleaf and Shortleaf tend to grow slower and will have tighter growth rings producing better quality lumber.  Slash grown in it's native range tends to have better form as well.  However it has been planted in areas that it wasn't native and rust issues can be significant.  Loblolly grows faster and puts on more volume across the spectrum, so that is the major reason it is planted so widely.  Given my preference, Shortleaf produces the best lumber in the Piedmont of Virginia.  Your mileage may vary.

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Re: Loblolly, Longleaf or Shortleaf
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2021, 08:17:39 PM »
Wudman is right on.  Around here we are at the far end of shortleaf, what used to be longleaf country,lob pine, and planted slash.  Slash pretty much no productive and slowly disappearing.  Longleaf is being planted again, but still small acreage.  Short leaf has compact rings and is dimensionally more stable than plantation lob.  But fast growth and quick turn around is the new management technique in Texas.
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Re: Loblolly, Longleaf or Shortleaf
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2021, 08:18:43 PM »
Shortleaf is the only pine native to MO and it produces nice lumber.  I have used a lot of it.  On my property I have Lobl olly, shortleaf and virginia.  There are originals that were planted here 60 years ago and many volunteers.  I have milled only a few of my trees.  The big lobl olly I milled had very wide growth rings and did not produce very good lumber.  I'm sure the shortleaf would produce better lumber.
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Re: Loblolly, Longleaf or Shortleaf
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2021, 08:34:19 PM »
I saw more Shortleaf than the others.  it is very stable and also my favorite to saw. 

Plantation planted Loblolly can deal you misery with fast growing stress related movement. 

I have a 64 log Longleaf job later this month and they generally go well.  Thankfully this has been felled and bucked a couple of months so it should not be so pitch sticky.

I have never knowingly sawn Slash.
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