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I Canít believe these trucks do this, how does ford even let something let that get sold? 
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Re: How many of you have experienced the death wobble in fords?
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2021, 06:33:05 AM »
ďMilitary grade aluminumĒ aka cheapest stuff we could find. Rest In Peace steering components. That canít be good
For the front end at all lol
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Re: How many of you have experienced the death wobble in fords?
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2021, 06:46:46 AM »
I had the same problem but much worse in my Ram 2500 a dozen years ago. Turned out it was the bushing in one of the cross bars (I forget the name) that was known to go every something thousand miles. Scared the crap out of me. Would only hit at a certain speed (68 mph) and stop when I got it below 55. Had that bushing replaced twice while I had the truck. About 300 bucks each time.
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Re: How many of you have experienced the death wobble in fords?
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2021, 07:44:46 AM »
Typically happens when you have worn suspension items.  When they went to coil overs it seems to be more common because the bushing in the lateral links would fail.  The older trucks that had leaf springs had the issue but it was very uncommon because the bushing in the leaf springs took for ever to wear out.  The old dodges/fords had this nailed with the single cross bar and the steering off the knuckle (danas).  As long as the crossover was tight it virtually killed DW.

For a new truck it's under warranty I would think?  They heavy duty trucks should be coming with dual dampers so that is odd it is happening in that.  Unless the brought back that stupid track bar design that ends up going to a knuckle at the other side of the vehicle and running a single damper in between. 


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Re: How many of you have experienced the death wobble in fords?
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2021, 07:59:28 AM »
Cowboy Bobís F350 did it and we had a friend that hauled horses with a diesel dually that did it. 

My observation was that the front wheels were leaving the ground. No amount of complaining or trips to the dealership ended or fixed the problem. 

For what itís worth we traded the piece of junk in for a gas Chevy 2500 that out pulled (he was a livestock dealer/hauler) and out handled the Ford. 

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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2021, 08:19:42 AM »
Typically happens when you have worn suspension items.  When they went to coil overs it seems to be more common because the bushing in the lateral links would fail.  The older trucks that had leaf springs had the issue but it was very uncommon because the bushing in the leaf springs took for ever to wear out.  The old dodges/fords had this nailed with the single cross bar and the steering off the knuckle (danas).  As long as the crossover was tight it virtually killed DW.

For a new truck it's under warranty I would think?  They heavy duty trucks should be coming with dual dampers so that is odd it is happening in that.  Unless the brought back that stupid track bar design that ends up going to a knuckle at the other side of the vehicle and running a single damper in between.
These are seemingly in newer trucks though? I’m assuming the front end just wants to go it’s own way due to slop , whether that be from worn bushings, bearings or just bad design resulting in prematurely worn bearings/bushings. Front end ends up trying to compensate for that and “jumps”
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Re: How many of you have experienced the death wobble in fords?
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2021, 08:23:44 AM »
They put all the R+D into the Infotainment system so the CD player won't skip when that happens.....
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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2021, 08:24:17 AM »
Cowboy Bobís F350 did it and we had a friend that hauled horses with a diesel dually that did it.

My observation was that the front wheels were leaving the ground. No amount of complaining or trips to the dealership ended or fixed the problem.

For what itís worth we traded the piece of junk in for a gas Chevy 2500 that out pulled (he was a livestock dealer/hauler) and out handled the Ford.
Iím just learning about this design flaw, Iíve never owned a ford, and probably wonít ever after searching up these plentiful videos of this death wobble, this is the first videos I watched, I thought the initial start was the death wobble, then it hit HARD(the real death wobble) totally unacceptable imo Iíd be back to that dealer faster than you could drop a pen 
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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2021, 08:26:34 AM »
In that previous video itís already so wobbly to begin with the guys sounds like heís talking while sitting on top of a washer machine 
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« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2021, 08:28:41 AM »
They put all the R+D into the Infotainment system so the CD player won't skip when that happens.....
Just when cds are going way with the doo doo birds lol 
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Re: How many of you have experienced the death wobble in fords?
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2021, 08:35:29 AM »
Ford E-150 did it at 5000 miles, bad front end.
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Re: How many of you have experienced the death wobble in fords?
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2021, 08:43:45 AM »
ive had it in every make of truck except IFS toyota or chevy.  so i guess every solid axle i can remember.

the hardest to trouble shoot was a leaf sprung 86 K30, no lift, stock rubber size.  i did kingpins and check spring bushings a few times, steering box was tight. friend who bought it end up determining it was actually the rubber, solved when he changed tires.  thats the only time i can say it was the tires.  adding a steering damper may have been enough to solve that. they have no track bar.  


on all the fords, its the track bar, pretty much always at the axle end. the slightest bit of slop will wobble.  

on 2nd gen dodge its the trackbar but its up at the frame end near the steering box because they use a stupid balljoint design.  after 3 track bar replacements (theyre pretty much annual in a dodge so just get a 1yr warranty cheapo in town and replace every year on cue) i finally cut the bar and grafted up a conventional double capture bushing mount and welded a 2 tab mount to the frame.  turned a delrin bushing oversize and pressed it in, drill it undersize and beat the bolt through.  fantastic after that as everything else was new and tight.  

obviously tie rod ends, balljoints and shocks have to stay tight too.  

my 01 f250 4wd did it really bad and that one it was a blown stabilizer and shocks.  i changed the track back out of habit and the old one was tight.  the new one is already going south and ill probably put the old one back in.

on jeep cherokee is pretty much all the same combo.  and those so often have lift kits with poor steering geometry that theyll get bump steer that then turns into deathwobble. i solved that by building a proper heim jointed tie rod and parallel track bar/draglink but it required cutting and welding mounts too.  no bumpsteer or wobble even without a stabilizer after.

actually .. dont think my 84 toyota leaf sprung solid axle never did it.  98 nissan frontier did a bit  when the steering idler on the passenger side got sloppy. 


any time you have a track bar look there first.  and obvious alignment plays a role.  i prefer 1/8" toe in.
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« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2021, 09:13:52 AM »
Mike Iíve only run chev or Toyota so maybe thatís how Iíve avoided it this long, that and I donít like to
Mess around with worn chassis items as adds much risk to ones life 
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« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2021, 09:22:45 AM »
theyve all got their issues.  just luck of the draw. 


you can buy the best vehicle on earth and get T boned just the same. 
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« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2021, 10:32:58 AM »
I've never had it in one of my personal trucks.  I've owned Ford Super Duties since 2002.  I did have it happen with out fire department 2009 F350 SRW.  It felt like it hit a harmonic where once it started it wouldn't stop until I brought the truck to a stop.  I believe they replace bushings and steering damper to fix it.  I also believe a part of the problem sometimes is having way too much tire pressure in the front tires.  This tends to happen to me after a truck goes in for service and they inflate the front tires to something like 80lbs.
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« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2021, 11:13:28 AM »
Mike is on point. I've had it happen in second and third gen Didge pickups. The 2nd gen was just a slopped out front end, rebuilt it and the problem went away. The 3rd gen was simply a worn steering damper. My mother and I were on the way out to Wyoming, hit the interstate and got up to 70 mph. Hit an overpass that was on a slight curve, the little bump set it off. My mom thought the world was ending😂😂 I was just irritated, any DW survivor knows the drill🤷🏽‍♂️ Bring it to a stop and start over. It made for a long trip, I couldn't break 65 mph or when I'd hit a bump we were shakin'😂 All it ended up being was the $50 steering damper, should've just replaced it along the way. To this day (this was around 5 years ago), you bring this subject up around my mom she gets all worked up. I think I gave her PTSD😂
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Re: How many of you have experienced the death wobble in fords?
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2021, 11:33:34 AM »

I grew up on a GM car lot and had many vehicles over the year and drove even more different ones when I was in the military. All brands have their quirks good and bad, I find people tend to over do these types of things. I'm not saying the dealers are virtuous and will fix it because it's the right thing to do. They will do because of liability and bad press.
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« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2021, 11:46:39 AM »
I can say I have a car from every brand that I like. For chevs I like the  3rd and 4th gen 1500 trucks. I also own a 3rd gen camaro And I love that. From ford I like the 60-70s Lincoln continentals, my grandfather had one too, was a boat of a car! Dodge I like their trucks of today. I daily a Toyota Tacoma, that’s been a nice midsize truck. I’m certainly not one to rag on a fella for driving a certain brand.
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« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2021, 11:52:40 AM »
My 2005 f350 4wd srw had it. Dealer said it was caused by letting front tire pressure drop below  65 psi.  That fixed mine and Ford sent out a tsb about  it a couple years later. It's  a real rough ride on 10 ply tires and 70 psi in them without a load plus the center thread wears quickly. My new Chevy is a dream to drive.
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« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2021, 11:57:18 AM »
My 2005 f350 4wd srw had it. Dealer said it was caused by letting front tire pressure drop below  65 psi.  That fixed mine and Ford sent out a tsb about  it a couple years later. It's  a real rough ride on 10 ply tires and 70 psi in them without a load plus the center thread wears quickly. My new Chevy is a dream to drive.
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