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Re: Bat shut down?
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2016, 10:39:22 PM »
I don't get the impression that they are blaming any of this on logging.

Logging is not being blamed nor is it involved in the problem with declining bat populations. The problem is that no consideration is given to the economic damage the rules which have been enacted that will not reverse the effects of white nose syndrome. Thus loggers and related industries will suffer for no real gain in the life cycle of the bats.

Overall the Endangered Species Act as administered primarily by the Fish and Wildlife Service has a poor record of saving any listed species. Last I knew there were some 2000 listed species with hundreds being proposed to be added every year and only 28 have ever recovered as a result of the act.

The classic case is the Spotted Owl that was used to destroy the logging industry in the Northwest US yet the species is still under attack not by logging but by the Barred Owls that are taking over their territory and killing the Spotted Owls. The environmentalists are still "Playing God" by attempting to shoot the Barred Owls to save their favored Spotted Owls.  ::)

If you really want to read about failed attempts by our government to "manage wildlife" you should read "Playing God in Yellostone" which is a well documented story about how the Park Service was killing species to save species.

We can only hope they don't try to save the bats by shooting loggers.  :)
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Re: Bat shut down?
« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2016, 06:27:08 AM »
I don't get the impression that they are blaming any of this on logging.



We can only hope they don't try to save the bats by shooting loggers.  :)
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Re: Bat shut down?
« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2016, 06:52:10 AM »
In some areas here they won't let you cut. Something about the Indiana Brown Bat. I think though when it comes to feeding the Hog Boiler on Fort Drum all rules and regulations get bypassed.

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Re: Bat shut down?
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2016, 07:23:39 AM »
Good morning - timbelinetree has endured another head injury, which has landed him in the ER twice last week. He has been ordered no work, no computer, etc for two weeks so he says he will respond to anyone once he's back up and running! Thank you all for your responses :)
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Re: Bat shut down?
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2016, 09:02:01 AM »
I am sorry to hear that.   get better!
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Re: Bat shut down?
« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2016, 09:06:54 AM »
Sorry to hear this, hope all is well

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Re: Bat shut down?
« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2016, 09:32:56 AM »
NRCS-funded jobs were shut down last year in Mass and will probably be shut down this year as well. I received a letter from them stating that they are considering it but are waiting for Fish and Wildlife to make some decisions. They are supposedly putting together area maps of the bat's hibernacula so they don't have to shut down the entire state but we'll see.....

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« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2016, 05:58:54 AM »
Thanks,back at it! Whoops shut down on our job is from June 1 st to Aug 1st.

One thing that was fun about bats is when younger we would throw rocks in the air and watch them chase them and my sisters would get scared that a bat would get caught in their hair.
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Re: Bat shut down?
« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2016, 07:35:11 AM »
I don't get the impression that they are blaming any of this on logging.



We can only hope they don't try to save the bats by shooting loggers.  :)



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Re: Bat shut down?
« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2016, 12:47:11 AM »
Interesting topic.

My neighbor is a 50yr+ Big Time Logger. He says the mills aren't taking logs until late this year. He says it happens every election cycle. I'm guessing he's speaking of each 4 years.
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