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Title: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: Firewoodjoe on March 01, 2020, 03:39:15 PM

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I'm guessing these are PR52 axles from what I've read. Do I need to get the numbers off it to order parts. A couple brass pins are leaking and I'd like to be ready before it's to late. It's a 353 and it seems it was swapped out to a opistit rotation engine. Exhaust is on opposite side it was originally on and the forwarder reverser backwords. It all works fine and has been for some time. So I'm assuming that won't hurt anything in the future? Any tips I'll take thanks.
Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: Maine logger88 on March 01, 2020, 07:40:31 PM
Look like pr52 to me but I've never owned one with them so take that for what it's worth. on any of the jacks  with the reverser ahead of the transmission push forward on the reverser lever for reverse pull back for forward. The skidders with the reverser in the transfer case are forward for forward. When I run my 240A it feels wrong to me cause I put so many hours on my 225D. 
Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: Hans1 on March 01, 2020, 09:03:16 PM
Nice looking Timber Jack what year is it. Looks like a pretty modern for a 208 great find. 
Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: Corley5 on March 01, 2020, 09:21:59 PM
It wouldn't be an opposite rotation engine just an opposite engine.  There were different configurations with the blowers, water pumps, fuel systems on opposite sides but the engine rotation was the same.  The 353 in my old Franklin had the water pump and fuel system on the left side facing the front.  The 353 in the old Dyna Hoe has the water pump and fuel system on the RH side.  There of course were opposite rotation models :) 8) 8)  Good looking old Jack 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: Firewoodjoe on March 02, 2020, 05:12:38 AM
Well if the reverser is supposed to be backwards then yes it just a different orientation. And I was told it was a 1979. I'm pretty happy with it. It all works even both brakes and it is a 40 year old piece of woods equipment. 
Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: tacks Y on March 02, 2020, 08:18:20 AM
They did a lot with the Detroits, some GM bus's ran backwards. I had an Allis dozer that stalled and starter rolling backwards that started to run backwards. Quite a sound. I had a pan that ran one, what a screamer. I have a bus/rv that had one. Now it has a Cummins, much nicer. Someone was skidding 2 1/2 miles from my house and with the wind right I could hear it plan as could be. Very nice looking machine. I keep looking for a small non Detroit skidder.
Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: bushmechanic on March 03, 2020, 06:35:11 PM
I'm jealous, always loved those 208D's ;)
Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: Firewoodjoe on March 03, 2020, 06:49:15 PM
Quote from: bushmechanic on March 03, 2020, 06:35:11 PM
I'm jealous, always loved those 208D's ;)
Yeah I've alwasy wanted a 200 series. Never even ran one until this one. But I feel like it's a iconic "logger" look lol  I don't know why. 
Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: Firewoodjoe on March 06, 2020, 04:45:38 PM
Ok. I'm changing the oil in the winch. Yellow metal safe 75-90. But the oil level plug below the serial number tag it broke off. So I can't get it out. I read on a old post 1.8L is required. Or almost 2 quarts. Is that right? Would I be safe just adding two quarts? 
Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: Maine logger88 on March 06, 2020, 04:49:26 PM
6 pints if I remember right 
Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: Firewoodjoe on March 06, 2020, 05:29:11 PM
Thanks. Well that's 3 quarts so maybe I could add a little more. 
Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: larry12 on March 06, 2020, 07:10:40 PM
Nice old TJ . I purchased a 3-53 opposite hand from a gen set , without the blower for my 230 E , can't get it to fire yet on Either , so maybe it's a boat anchor lol .  If I do,  it'll need a little re jigging for the throttle etc , but not a biggie . It turns the same direction as the old run.
Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: snowstorm on March 06, 2020, 07:15:08 PM
if you are saying your 353 dose not have a blower on it? it cant run without one
Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: Firewoodjoe on March 07, 2020, 06:11:51 PM
I've changed most the gear oil and tinkered with other things. I was wanting to build a tree pusher for the arch before I take it to the woods. Two questions...are they really that useful? And does it need to have teeth? I would think not. And as far as pushing you can now, just not a lot of room if u need to finish the cut with pressure on the tree. I would think 90% of the time you could cut it leave a couple wedges in if it don't wedge over and then finish backing to it to push it over with arch. What's your experience? 
Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: Maine logger88 on March 07, 2020, 07:37:13 PM
Tree pusher is much nicer you can do it without one but once you have one you won't go back. It's harder to push trees uphill without one because the but plate hits the tree before the arch. Mine only sticks out about a foot but it's just enough to help a lot. Mine has no teeth but it has a v cut out
Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: larry12 on March 07, 2020, 07:50:23 PM
Quote from: snowstorm on March 06, 2020, 07:15:08 PM
if you are saying your 353 dose not have a blower on it? it cant run without one
I was also told that it would fire on Either but won't run without a blower . So I thought I would try it before installing it into the skidder. Darn thing just rolls over and won't fire . Oh well it may be a "pig in a poke " lol
Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: Firewoodjoe on March 07, 2020, 07:52:48 PM
Quote from: Maine logger88 on March 07, 2020, 07:37:13 PM
Tree pusher is much nicer you can do it without one but once you have one you won't go back. It's harder to push trees uphill without one because the but plate hits the tree before the arch. Mine only sticks out about a foot but it's just enough to help a lot. Mine has no teeth but it has a v cut out
Ok maybe I'll gab one up. I would also like to build a large muffler can. I'll see what I can do. 
Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: sandersen on March 07, 2020, 08:45:16 PM
 
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Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: BargeMonkey on March 07, 2020, 09:58:31 PM
Quote from: larry12 on March 07, 2020, 07:50:23 PM
Quote from: snowstorm on March 06, 2020, 07:15:08 PM
if you are saying your 353 dose not have a blower on it? it cant run without one
I was also told that it would fire on Either but won't run without a blower . So I thought I would try it before installing it into the skidder. Darn thing just rolls over and won't fire . Oh well it may be a "pig in a poke " lol
Dont you mean a "SOOOUUUPPER CHARGER"... 😂  2 strokes are neat when you can visualize the concept behind them, running without forced air isnt going to happen, I want to say the term was "non base scavenging". ? I know on an EMD the book says how many CU-FT a minute depending on engine model and it was ALOT. 
Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: Firewoodjoe on March 14, 2020, 10:19:10 AM

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Well I've tinkered a lot. I'm pleased and feel it could go to the woods anytime. I would like to do a muffler. It's actually not as loud as I was expecting  but still loud enough wide open. We'll see what I do next. I'm going to wait on the tree pusher. With the ground I'm usually in I think I can just fell it where I can or use the cable to be safe. And I noticed some stack slobber but it idle awhile and it is a Detroit. 
Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: Pine Ridge on March 14, 2020, 03:00:12 PM
Good looking skidder !!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: repmma on March 14, 2020, 05:24:56 PM
Ran one 353 out of the woods without a blower.  Plugged oil passage holes with whittled sticks hammered in.  It was a bear to get it fired up and only had enough power to move itself with a WWII destroyer quality smoke screen trailing 100ft behind it that would give little Greta a stroke.  
Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: barbender on March 15, 2020, 01:01:44 AM
That's a nice straight little machine, good score!
Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: Firewoodjoe on April 09, 2020, 03:59:29 PM
Is there suppose to be a hood or covers anywhere in this area. Thanks. 
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Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: Lumberjohn on April 15, 2020, 09:08:37 PM
Nope, I don't see anything missing.
Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: Maine logger88 on April 15, 2020, 10:10:12 PM
No but I made one out of mill felt for my 240 when we closed it in and put a heater in it. I left it on even after I took the glass out of the windows just cause it was nice not getting debris down in there
Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: 47sawdust on April 16, 2020, 06:21:19 AM
What is mill felt?
Thanks,47sawdust
Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: Maine logger88 on April 16, 2020, 10:48:52 AM
It's a very tough felt material used in the paper making process to press paper. When they throw it out it is handy for different stuff like that 
Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: OntarioAl on April 16, 2020, 11:29:06 AM
 
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That's mill felt with a 3/4 inch piece of plywood to support it
Bottom and sides tied down with mechanics wire.
Suction fan for winter keeps you toasty warm (change to blower fan for summer)
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Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: 47sawdust on April 16, 2020, 12:40:50 PM
OntarioAl,
Guess it's my day for questions.Is that a water pre-heater you have in the picture.I've never seen one like it?














Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: OntarioAl on April 16, 2020, 04:20:27 PM
yes it is
they were popular about 30 years ago
the propane heater was away from the machine
water circulated by convection
insurance companies would cover you if the propane heater was on the machine too many machines skidders dozers loaders burnt because of propane leaks
Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: Maine logger88 on April 16, 2020, 07:52:20 PM
My grandfather had one of those for his s7 IH I never seen one before just heard about them. How long does it take to heat up enough to start?
Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: Firewoodjoe on April 16, 2020, 08:27:54 PM
So far this is what I've come up with. Hopefully I can find time to finish it soon.
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Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: Maine logger88 on April 16, 2020, 09:43:21 PM
That ought to work good!
Title: Re: Just got a Timberjack 208D
Post by: Firewoodjoe on April 17, 2020, 04:46:44 AM
Now I don't know if I want it above the grab bar or not. I see on the newer 225 and 240s the window goes in front and below the grab bar but I was trying to get away from having to build the three piece window. The way I have it in the pictures the window will just be flat. Makes things a little simpler. I don't know. I over think with lots of coffee before I'm happy lol