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What is Elm good for?

Started by DR Buck, August 29, 2015, 08:56:01 PM

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4x4American

Vedy nice...your years supply would prolly last me 5 days lol
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rasman57

Quote from: 4x4American on August 31, 2015, 11:12:12 PM
Vedy nice...your years supply would prolly last me 5 days lol

But your years supply of snow probably would last him 5 days ::)

SawyerBrown

I'm hoping this red (slippery) elm is going to stay flat and machine up nice. It's on the bottom of the pile  ...


 


 
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4x4American

Quote from: rasman57 on September 01, 2015, 12:17:09 AM
Quote from: 4x4American on August 31, 2015, 11:12:12 PM
Vedy nice...your years supply would prolly last me 5 days lol

But your years supply of snow probably would last him 5 days ::)

Reckon so!
Boy, back in my day..

petefrom bearswamp

Not much Elm left around here due to Dutch Elm disease.
American elm is the one that doesnt split or burn worth a hoot.
Red or Slippery elm is a different story.
The dead ones I get have all been American elm so far.
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logboy

I have quite a few people who want elm lumber because of its strength. Farmers love it for hay wagons because it is strong and springs instead of breaking. Another guy recently told me he wants them for dump truck sides. While oak timbers break, elm springs back and lasts forever.
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MattJ

Our friend John over at Autine Tools makes his axe handles from elm as it doesn't split easily.  I love the elm handle on the broad axe he made me.

Magicman

The same with the Carpenter's Axe that John made for me.   :)
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DPForumDog

How do you think elm would fare as material for my island countertop?    I would never cut on it. But I would be banging down bags of groceries and cast iron skillets.    I would have to stain it a little darker to match my cabinets.

We have a HUGE elm that's been dead for years.   I cut a limb and it is beautiful inside.

I want to use this elm for something.  I want to honor it.  I suppose it succumbed to Dutch Elm disease, but it musta been a beauty in its time.

Thanks for any ideas.

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gfadvm

Quote from: DPForumDog on February 15, 2016, 10:08:43 PM
How do you think elm would fare as material for my island countertop?    I would never cut on it. But I would be banging down bags of groceries and cast iron skillets.    I would have to stain it a little darker to match my cabinets.

We have a HUGE elm that's been dead for years.   I cut a limb and it is beautiful inside.

I want to use this elm for something.  I want to honor it.  I suppose it succumbed to Dutch Elm disease, but it musta been a beauty in its time.

Thanks for any ideas.

Granny DP
DPForumDog

I'm not normally a fan of stain but elm is the exception. It stains well with no blotching but more importantly, stain brings out all the amazing twisted/interlocking grain. Sand some scraps to 220 grit and wipe on/wipe off several different color stains. You will be very impressed.

280 rem

Quote from: Larry on August 31, 2015, 09:12:46 PM
Its red elm that burns well and leaves clinkers like coal.  In many areas its near extinct because it is such an excellent firewood.  When I was able to get it, I always waited for the coldest days to burn it.

Chinese elm is the junk firewood tree.  There are others that I don't know the names.

Dead Red elm makes some of the finest firewood ever! Burning some right now, found some on a job I was logging. Cut them, drug them, hauled them in with the walnut logs. Didn't seem to hard to split, sawmill cut right through the middle of them just fine 8) other species of elm don't seem to make firewood worth having.
May not be too far away from you Larry. I'm bout 50 miles north of Arkansas. I've seen decent amounts of elmin different timbers around , most seem to die pretty young. I logged a couple 20" plus elm a few months back, even sold a couple of the logs for veneer, which shocked me
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Ianab

QuoteHow do you think elm would fare as material for my island countertop? 

Don't see why you couldn't make a counter top out of it. It's can be a challenge to work because of it's grain and the way it moves as it dries. But if you cut the boards a bit oversize, got them properly dry, then machined them straight for a glue up it should work fine.

It's a little softer than things like Cherry and Walnut, but not so much that you are really going to notice the difference in use.
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plowboyswr

280 rem where about in SW Missouri are you?
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I've heard the, "even the flames are cold', reference to green elm but never about seasoned, dry elm. We burned a lot of it on our farm growing up. We had a lot of dead elm from the Dutch Elm disease that went through the Northeast when I was young. With scores of dead standing elm, my dad would cut it rather than some of the other hardwoods because it was dead, dry and pretty well seasoned already. It was bear to split.

My grandfather would have nothing else but elm for the floors of his horse stalls.
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I think that it would make a beautiful countertop.
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Chuck White

Works good for floors in horse stalls, and I think it's a little better than most for the walls in horse stalls.  Seems horses don't crib so much on elm.

We have quite a bit of Elm (don't know what kind, just Elm) in this area.
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rjwoelk

I read that horses dont chew on hemlock once they start it looks like a herd of beavers have gone through. Lol
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btulloh

I've heard that elm is good for coffins.  Doesn't rot when underground.  Sure goes away quick laying around on the ground around here though.  Different species have vastly different properties I suspect. The elm around here make firewood that's just slightly better than a rolled up newspaper.

Winged Elm is what grows around here.  It doesn't have much grain or figure.  I had a big blow down milled up a few years ago but haven't decided to do with it.  It has historic value but not very exciting to look at.  It did dry straight though.
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btulloh

Quote from: rjwoelk on February 16, 2016, 08:24:21 AM
I read that horses dont chew on hemlock once they start it looks like a herd of beavers have gone through. Lol

Socrates chewed on some hemlock and wound up dead.
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Ox

I looked that up once after looking at the hemlock out back here.  Turns out hemlock over there around Greece and Italy is some kind of shrub or very small sapling-like bush that's poisonous.  Here in the states, a hemlock is just that.  Same name, totally different plant species.  Not poisonous.  This can be good or bad depending on your situation.  ;)
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btulloh

Thanks for that info Ox.  I wondered about that.  Good to know.  We don't have either around here.

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pineywoods

Not much demand any more, but elm was the wood of choice for making hubs for wooden wagon wheels. Don't use the pith and it won't crack and split,,,
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