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Started by Fla._Deadheader, September 27, 2006, 08:42:26 PM

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Fla._Deadheader


Anybody ever do this ???

  Down here, they use a piece of string and wrap it around the small end of a log. Then, where the end meets the rest, you pinch the string and take it off the log. Now, you place the end where you have the string pinched. Now, take the loop end and place it where the others are. Then, measure the length of the "folded" string, (quartered). That gives the numbers of Pulgadas in 3 varas.   Now, go down the log for 3 varas and do it again, until you get to the end of the log.

  I have memorized the log scale for 8' logs, up to 18", by ruler measurement.  I did one log my way, and matched it to their way. I was 1 Pulgada less. They did NOT want to hear about my method any more.  ::) ::) ::)

  Y'all have ANY idea how long it takes to measure a 5 ton log with a string ???  ::) ::) :D :D
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   First, it is ridiculed;
   Second, it is violently opposed; and
   Third, it is accepted as self-evident.

-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

Dan_Shade

our spanish is a bit rusty, harold, expound on your thoughts!
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Fla._Deadheader


   ::) ::)  Pulgada is a tiny bit less than 1". Vara is 34".   So, 3 Varas is 102". A Pulgada is 1" X 1" X 34".   1 Pulgada is a very tiny bit less than 1 board foot.
All truth passes through three stages:
   First, it is ridiculed;
   Second, it is violently opposed; and
   Third, it is accepted as self-evident.

-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

Tom

You left me out in right field somewhere.  When you pinch the string, where are the others?   What others? You got more than one guy doing this or is their another string?  I'll bet you a pulgado of varas that I'd figure out a different way too.  I'd step it off and create a footses.  Then I'd have a book in back pocket to tell me how many footses it took to make a pulgado and varas it on a piece of paper.   What the heck am I talking about?  :D

Tom

Well!  Why didn't you say a pulgado was just a tobacco stick.  Shucks!  Everybody knows what a tobacco stick is. 8)  .........or maybe a tomato stick. ::)

Fla._Deadheader


  Tom, seems it takes at least 3 guys to do this. One does the string, one has the book, and one borrows a tape measure from somebody (me), and all 3 look at the string and then start discussing their interpretation.  It gets real comical sometimes.

  Also, If I measure a log for bucking, I lay pieces of bark or small strips of wood or a weed stem where I want the log cut. Somebody comes along and uses a Machete to move MY marks, and chips away where I had indicated, with the Machete.

I have questioned several of the guys about this. Answer is, ----------------------------------

  That's how we do it.  ::) ::) ::) ::)

  Some days are WAAYYYYYYY more interesting than others.  :D :D :D :D
All truth passes through three stages:
   First, it is ridiculed;
   Second, it is violently opposed; and
   Third, it is accepted as self-evident.

-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

Tom

I don't know why, but I get the idea that you're standing in the midst of a bunch of  Stanley's and Ollie's.

"Now look what a nice mess you've got me into."

beenthere

Quote from: Fla._Deadheader on September 27, 2006, 09:49:46 PM

   ::) ::)  Pulgada is a tiny bit less than 1". Vara is 34".   So, 3 Varas is 102". A Pulgada is 1" X 1" X 34".   1 Pulgada is a very tiny bit less than 1 board foot.

Seems that would be a bit less than 1/4 board foot. A 1" X 1" X 144" would be a board foot (1" X 12" X 12").

I'm missing something here, or not? But thanks for the lesson from CR. :)
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Tom

You're Missing something??

You mean you understood all about tying those Varas Pulgados up with a string and chopping the bark with a machete to mark the place were the mark was marked?

getoverit

I thought it was 2 axe handles and a plug of tobacco :D :D
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pigman

Quote from: Fla._Deadheader on September 27, 2006, 09:49:46 PM

  A Pulgada is 1" X 1" X 34".   
Quote from: Tom on September 27, 2006, 09:56:19 PM
Well!  Why didn't you say a pulgado was just a tobacco stick.  Shucks!  Everybody knows what a tobacco stick is.
A 34" tobacco stick is useless. :P  They need to be at least 48". That is unless the tier rails are 30" apart. Hey, that would be great. 8) After a whole day in the barn hanging tobacco a person would not feel like a turkey wishbone on Thanksgiving day.
Bob
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Cedarman

There is nothing that brings more fear into a tobacco hangers heart than to feel the poles he is spread eagled on start to slip out.  Or to hear a cracking sound as he has hung the last stick of tobacco. 
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BBTom

Those are all new to me, but Wikipedia knows them, and calls them Obsolete Spanish and Portuguese units of measurement
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Spanish   English   Relationship           Length in SI units
punto     "point"   1 linea = 12 punto        0.1613 mm
linea       "line"     1 pulgada = 12 lineas    1.935 mm
pulgada   "inch"   1 pie = 12 pulgadas      23.22 mm
pie          "foot"   1 vara = 3 pies             27.86 cm
vara       "yard"   1 vara = 36 pulgadas    0.8359 m
paso      "pace"   1 paso = 60 pulgadas   1.3932 m
legua     "league" 1 legua = 5,000 varas  4.1795 km
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SwampDonkey

It looks like some of those boys down there got left behind with the old imperial system, much like alot of guys here that are used to cords, cunits and feet. They always have to convert back to the imperial from SI all the time. Most of the time you have to do the conversion for them because they're cutting wood, no time for memorizing conversion factors. ;)  If it's not converted they feel they are getting taken on price because a m^3 is smaller than a cord, but they are looking for the same price between the both. ;D :D You think I'm making this up, but I have had several loggers over the years state that their cutters have this frame of mind and they will simply quit and go work somewhere else.  ::)
"No amount of belief makes something a fact." James Randi

1 Thessalonians 5:21

2020 Polaris Ranger 570 to forward firewood, Husqvarna 555 XT Pro, Stihl FS560 clearing saw and continuously thinning my ground, on the side. Grow them trees. (((o)))

moosehunter

Now, I am just a simple mechanic, but I thought I had the board foot thing down. 1"x1"x12".
Making a polgada aprox 3 square feet and beenthere's 1x1x144 is 12 board feet ??? ???



I get soooo confused ::)

mh
"And the days that I keep my gratitude
Higher than my expectations
Well, I have really good days".    Ray Wylie Hubbard

Fla._Deadheader


Y'all just THINK yer confuzed.  ::) ::) ::)  I still gotta make money doin this.  ::) ::)

Might be I got that "board foot" thing a little messed up, myself.  ::) ::)  I let my helper keep track of the tally. I keep track of what I cut.

  Down here, they want to sell the log. There is usually a reason why the log was not hauled away when the tree was felled.

  Oh, the logs I am sawing now have been on the ground for a spell. Maybe up to a couple 5 years.  :o ;D ;D :D :D :D
All truth passes through three stages:
   First, it is ridiculed;
   Second, it is violently opposed; and
   Third, it is accepted as self-evident.

-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

BBTom

moosehunter, a board foot is 12" x 12" x 1" or 144 cubic inches.  Think of it as a square foot 1 inch thick. 
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moosehunter

bb tom,
I knew that ::)
I misstyped, as many have in this thread.(I think??)
By the way, I talk the same way. I am thinking something and it comes out of my mouth completely different.
Causes lots of mis-communication.
If I slow down enough to make sure I say it correctly, everyone has left the room by the time I get it out.
Sometimes I ramble too.
mh
"And the days that I keep my gratitude
Higher than my expectations
Well, I have really good days".    Ray Wylie Hubbard

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