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1965 C5 Cancar Tree Farmer SPECS and INFO Thread.

Started by lshobie, October 20, 2021, 05:24:05 PM

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lshobie

Hey all it's been a while since I've posted but here is my latest purchase. 1967 c5 with braden winch and detroit 353.  Runs great just going to set the rack, change fluids, repair some u joints and fix the two pitted  blade rams.  Bought it from the second owner  family who bought it in the early 70s.

One of the planetaries is leaking around the brass pin and I'm going to replace the brake and clutch cylinders as well.

It's hard to find info on these as it is scattered all over the place so I will post part numbers and info as I go in this top section:


Manuals, I haven't been able to find any for this skidder - help would be greatly appreciated - I will pay for them of course.

Service:
Operator:
Parts:

Model Cancar Treefarmer C5
Serial number_ 650512
Engine: Detroit Diesel 3-53 Naturally Aspirated
Engine Model Number 5033-7200. Unit number 17741
Max rpm 2830

Filters:  

Hydraulic cartridge beside radiator. WIX 51567
Oil cartridge. 23522888, wix napa 1138, fram ch119pl
fuel filter element

Brake master Wagner 29744  FD2951 FE2951 29744 2951 29744C 5461387 616588 M68105 M1402121 M54484 M457266
Clutch Master FD2951 FE2951 29744 2951 29744C 5461387 616588 M68105 M1402121 M54484 M457266
Clutch slave.  doorman cs36164
Brake slave. doorman cs36164
Clutch and brake fluid DOT 3

Axles
Tranny T98-746.    (094)
Diffs:  #5200K532 (Y10)
Winch Braden
Tires 18.4-34 Forestry tire
8 bolt rim
Drive shaft U joint:
Winch U joint:
Hydraulic pump:
Steer control:
Blade control:

Fluids:
Engine Oil:  SAE 40 spring/summer/fall.  SAE 30 winter
Hydraulics:  ATF
Braden winch: 80w90 non hypoid
Planetaries:  ATF
Transmission:  80W90 non hypoid
Transfer Case:  80w90. Non hypoid
Air oil bath: any engine oil









 

 




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thecfarm

That sure does look good!!
Even have all parts for the hood!!!
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lshobie

John Deere 440 Skidder, C5 Treefarmer,  Metavic Forwarder, Massey 2500 Forklift, Hyundai HL730 Wheel Loader, Woodmizer LT40, Valley Edger,  Alaskan Mill, Huskys, Stihls, and echos.

lshobie

Detroit Diesel with oil bath air cleaner and oil cartridge not a spin on.  Generator and voltage regulator. 


 

 
John Deere 440 Skidder, C5 Treefarmer,  Metavic Forwarder, Massey 2500 Forklift, Hyundai HL730 Wheel Loader, Woodmizer LT40, Valley Edger,  Alaskan Mill, Huskys, Stihls, and echos.

lshobie

Question:

This threaded hole - is it just a fill plug or should there be a breather tube in that?  Thanks!


 

 
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lshobie

John Deere 440 Skidder, C5 Treefarmer,  Metavic Forwarder, Massey 2500 Forklift, Hyundai HL730 Wheel Loader, Woodmizer LT40, Valley Edger,  Alaskan Mill, Huskys, Stihls, and echos.

Kodiakmac

Quote from: lshobie on October 20, 2021, 08:21:24 PMThis threaded hole - is it just a fill plug or should there be a breather tube in that?  Thanks!


After checking what is/isn't in that housing, I'd be putting in a threaded plug.  Quickly.
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bushmechanic

Nice score on the machine! The more I look at this I think it's not a C5 but a C4 Pulpwood special. That's a Cotta transfer case and the hole is for a 1/8 pipe thread vent. It's really in good shape for the year.

lshobie

Hey thanks, the tag says C5, I think its a c4 for the most part with the Detroit instead of the gasser?  

Do you know anything about the two trunion mounts on the from axle...the pivots?  One is completely blown out ( the rear one) and it is making a big hole in the frame.  Im not sure how they mounted the front axle on that because both pins face into each other - unless the rear one was removable and slipped into place after the wishbone was installed?

Cheers and thanks for your comments.

Louie
John Deere 440 Skidder, C5 Treefarmer,  Metavic Forwarder, Massey 2500 Forklift, Hyundai HL730 Wheel Loader, Woodmizer LT40, Valley Edger,  Alaskan Mill, Huskys, Stihls, and echos.

lshobie

 

 

 

 

These pics were sent by another member so I know what how the cradle pins are set up.  Many thanks to him!
John Deere 440 Skidder, C5 Treefarmer,  Metavic Forwarder, Massey 2500 Forklift, Hyundai HL730 Wheel Loader, Woodmizer LT40, Valley Edger,  Alaskan Mill, Huskys, Stihls, and echos.

logman81

I had a very similar skidder except mine had the Ford gas and updated arch. It was in the same kind of condition yours was in but went through it and replaced all the worn out parts.

 

 
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logman81

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logman81

Mine was also a factory extended frame as well.
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lshobie

Quote from: logman81 on October 27, 2021, 10:49:11 AM
I had a very similar skidder except mine had the Ford gas and updated arch. It was in the same kind of condition yours was in but went through it and replaced all the worn out parts.

 


That looks great!
John Deere 440 Skidder, C5 Treefarmer,  Metavic Forwarder, Massey 2500 Forklift, Hyundai HL730 Wheel Loader, Woodmizer LT40, Valley Edger,  Alaskan Mill, Huskys, Stihls, and echos.

lshobie

John Deere 440 Skidder, C5 Treefarmer,  Metavic Forwarder, Massey 2500 Forklift, Hyundai HL730 Wheel Loader, Woodmizer LT40, Valley Edger,  Alaskan Mill, Huskys, Stihls, and echos.

logman81

Should have kept the 664c clark even with the front motor mount being broken its still way more skidder then that tree farmer is. The little plug on the right side of that Braden winch is the fill line and use a rated oil for bronze gears. I went through my entire c4b which is the same machine minus the 353 DT and you can still get most parts for the old girl!

Don't overload it or this will happen to the planitaries 

 

 
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lshobie

Thanks for the info, just curious what overloading is lol, like....how many ash trees at show long and diameter?  Or red oak and diameter.  Straight pull.


Cheers

,louie
John Deere 440 Skidder, C5 Treefarmer,  Metavic Forwarder, Massey 2500 Forklift, Hyundai HL730 Wheel Loader, Woodmizer LT40, Valley Edger,  Alaskan Mill, Huskys, Stihls, and echos.

C5C Tree Farmer

Were you able to find parts for the master cylinders?

logman81

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logman81

Parts are available through Harold's logging in Maine, Ask for Randy tell him Dave Peckham sent ya! I got all my parts from him when I restored my c4.
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lshobie

Thanks David!

Here is a vid from yesterday.  Logging tomorrow after my wife opens her presents....
             https://youtu.be/H3FCsDLDz5s           
John Deere 440 Skidder, C5 Treefarmer,  Metavic Forwarder, Massey 2500 Forklift, Hyundai HL730 Wheel Loader, Woodmizer LT40, Valley Edger,  Alaskan Mill, Huskys, Stihls, and echos.

lshobie

John Deere 440 Skidder, C5 Treefarmer,  Metavic Forwarder, Massey 2500 Forklift, Hyundai HL730 Wheel Loader, Woodmizer LT40, Valley Edger,  Alaskan Mill, Huskys, Stihls, and echos.

lshobie

John Deere 440 Skidder, C5 Treefarmer,  Metavic Forwarder, Massey 2500 Forklift, Hyundai HL730 Wheel Loader, Woodmizer LT40, Valley Edger,  Alaskan Mill, Huskys, Stihls, and echos.

logman81

I had the same winch on my c4b. Not to bad of a winch a tad on the slow side and can be a pain to adjust, keep it covered up when not using it to keep it from rusting up!
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lshobie

Ya it's not like my clark winch but it does the trick.  Pretty impressed with this little skidder - very little damage in the bush and makes a nice atv trail at the same time.  Needs cab protection though - next summers project.



 
John Deere 440 Skidder, C5 Treefarmer,  Metavic Forwarder, Massey 2500 Forklift, Hyundai HL730 Wheel Loader, Woodmizer LT40, Valley Edger,  Alaskan Mill, Huskys, Stihls, and echos.

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