OK guys, da Doctor ordered further test, rendered a diagnosis, and recommended the proper treatment. We will have this topic on a yearly basis so keep your "cards and letters" coming. :)
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Seen above is the load of ERC logs that began the original topic so it is fitting that it continue to be an introduction for this and future topics.
OK, so Whatcha Sawin' 2019 ??
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8)
Snowflakes! Easy to saw but hard to stack. Somebody find that lying groundhog and lets start us a food topic. I bet he'd be good with a side of grits.
I drove over yesterday to buy some used roofing metal advertised in a local trader paper for use in air drying my lumber and slabs. Called ahead to confirm still available and set up a time, offered to come early but lady said finish my other running around then just come pick it up. Drove 25 miles over then when called to let her know I would be there in a couple more minutes she called back and said they had sold it. Did not seem to care she'd just cost me nearly 2 hours and 50 miles. Oh well, that's people for you. Okay enough venting.
I sure do like the looks of that load of cedar logs. Hard to find anything close to that around here.
Congrats on the return of the best post.
Glad to see this thread back up. I would check the old one every time i came to the board. Always something of interest!
Welcome Back "Whatcha Sawin'....2019"
Here's my first entry. 4500# pecan from yesterday:
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Is it possible to reference the Old whatcha sawin thread and if so how
Have to admit that I was a little out of sorts the last couple days. I'm definitely a creature of habit lol
I've been stuck in bed with a bad case of vertigo....if I tried to saw, it would be in circles! :D
Glad to see this Whatcha Sawin' version 2.0.
E-Tex, that Pecan "Devil" will either warm your heart, smiley_gorgeous or break your heart, smiley_devil and she decides which. :D
Wow - I had a horrible nightmare that Magicman broke the internet and almost crashed the Forestry Forum due to this incredibly successful thread. At the end of the dream MM was driving away with his sawmill in tow and Jeff stood there and in his Kirk Douglas voice said "He's the man from Snowy River who broke the internet". :D
So I came here and saw the famous picture and all was well again. Wait - the title is different.... :o
Very pleased I really enjoyed checking in to see what was happening. As for my sawing not going to happen soon there is 4' of snow that will have to go away before I can get to the log pile. Luckily the weather guessers are calling for a warm up next week. Randy Thanks
Snow and mud have scared off a few faint hearted customers in the last two weeks. Their business isn't going elsewhere but nevertheless it is inconvenient to say the least. But tomorrow's cancellation was followed by another call today from a repeat commercial customer with an urgent request, so I am going out to re-saw some beams. Two hours of driving, two hours of work, and get paid for five hours minimum charge plus mileage, So win-win all the way around.
Quote from: terrifictimbersllc on March 08, 2019, 04:11:55 PM
Snow and mud have scared off a few faint hearted customers in the last two weeks. Their business isn't going elsewhere but nevertheless it is inconvenient to say the least. But tomorrow's cancellation was followed by another call today from a repeat commercial customer with an urgent request, so I am going out to re-saw some beams. Two hours of driving, two hours of work, and get paid for five hours minimum charge plus mileage, So win-win all the way around.
8) Yesiree!
I sawed up some Apple today, A friend brought it over to saw, it was a small one about 48in long but made for some nice 1x9 boards. We usually don't get apple big enough to saw but this one was a pleasure to open up. Under it is a nice 5/4 walnut I sawed up before the apple, I took a pic of the apple on top of the walnut intentionally so I can continue my torment
of WDH ;D ;D
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He is continuously twisted and tormented. ;D
Yes!!! I get to read this one from the beginning. I tried to catch up with the last one but got lost in the pages.
Enough snow has melted that I can take care of a small job tomorrow morning. Will be slabbing a 16' pine log for a bar top.
Hopefully beginning sometime next week I'll be able to take the tractor and dig out the sawmill from underneath our winters worth of snow. Might actually be able to get back to sawing something soonish. Have a bunch of beetle killed spruce to get out of the woods and get cut before it goes to waste and need to cut a good bit more birch for flooring and trim.
The first "log" of 2019 wasn't one to write home about but I had start somewhere.
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One hour of sawing, although most of that was maintenance yielded 12 board feet.
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This sassafras stick was a bonus that came with 9 cherry logs. I plan to make a box as a gift for the nice woman who offered me her trees. The best part is that a professional tree service dropped them and skillfully loaded them into the back of my pickup. The tree had a tiny hollow pith and I think this was beneficial. It was very dry for having been cut this winter. It laid around for 2 months without end-sealing and didn't check. The wood has been fairly stable in spite of the wandering grain. It will be a good warm up for the cherry logs, half of those have a similar form and that is typical for most of the cherry in these parts.
keep the loads coming in.....
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Finished cutting a Doug fir log today or at least I believe it's Doug fir it's not a species I am use to a guy I've cut for gave me a load of stuff he picked up from somewhere not around here it was free logs so I wasn't picky it's amazing what one log can produce!
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Hard to see but the pith was way off center on one end not the other
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Finished in the rain this morn with a nice stack of lumber
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MM that is some great ERC and I hope you are feeling better. :laugh:
Quote from: E-Tex on March 08, 2019, 04:25:05 PM
Quote from: terrifictimbersllc on March 08, 2019, 04:11:55 PM
Snow and mud have scared off a few faint hearted customers in the last two weeks. Their business isn't going elsewhere but nevertheless it is inconvenient to say the least. But tomorrow's cancellation was followed by another call today from a repeat commercial customer with an urgent request, so I am going out to re-saw some beams. Two hours of driving, two hours of work, and get paid for five hours minimum charge plus mileage, So win-win all the way around.
8) Yesiree!
1 hr there, work 3 hr, 1 hr back.
Five 100-200 yr old white oak beams cut up so the customer could complete an order of antique flooring. Went into his kiln as I was packing up. Here's me with the last board, a 2x12 cut from the short end of a beam.
Wife came along and took a walk through downtown New Haven while I was sawing. I clamped the board hard so he couldn't take it away before I got a picture.
That's glaciation on the ground behind me.
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Thanks, the fever and chills have subsided and I am now on solid food again. I never knew that withdrawals would have that affect. I wonder whether the "2019" version is what did the trick?? ;D
Good stuff Dennis. smiley_thumbsup The lumber, not the glaciation. :)
Today I cut a nice little hemlock log into a couple of 4x6's and a 2/4 to get it out of the way so I could roll up a nice 8' long red oak log to make a couple of mantles for a couple of customers.
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I had a customer call me who wanted some 4x6's to make some timber frame saw horses. Now I have some stock for him to practice on.
Jim Rogers
Hop out of my dogbox at the end of the week for another Saturday stint with the Lucas Mill. This slabbing stuff keeps up I'm going to have to invest in a bandmill of some sort... I dont mind the exercise but I am sick to death of sharpening chainsaw chains already.
Little ones at least - not hernia inducing monsters. More Queensland Maple: hard not to like it it's always got that glow to it.
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Hernia inducing monster is supposed to be next weekend, when I've got a crew booked in to handle it. Been sitting over the side of the yard barked and losing moisture for 4 months now so it could drop a bit of weight... it's "paddock maple" that being Qld maple thats grown in a shelter belt or field so it hasnt had to go up to chase the light in the forest. Dad's standing behind it for scale. Takes a bit to make old Bessie the log loader light in the back end but this one did it.
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Worked on some white oak slabs today.
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Boxed the pith on one end well but missed it slightly one the other so messed up two slabs instead of just one. Learning every day!!
made a trip to Spokane this morning and cut some 2" slabs and one 6" slab out of the center of this blued pine log. The plan is for the 6" slab to be sent to the customers brother in Wisconsin.
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Still learning to post pics.
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Mossey C....... Nice looking stack of Slabs! smiley_thumbsup
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Cutting some yard pine. Should have known.
Why do you always find the nails when you put on a brand new blade? First time hitting the head of a cement nail. It breaks off 8-10 teeth.
Some balsam fir boomsticks for the woodshed project. 4x6x12 and 2x4x12
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Fir 1x8 and 1x3 in 8 and 10 foot lengths for a board and batten repair. My first paying customer! The son of the man we purchased the mill from, so had LOTS to share and was patient and helpful ;)
2nd and 3rd log up
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Flare of an 8 footer
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Flitches for battens
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Board and Batten combo
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Opening up
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Sawing thru
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Some finished read to go out
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All loaded up.
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7 hours and 256 board feet. I think there was a bit too much yak yak when the saw was running!
Cut a little more walnut short slabs and some white oak for some raised garden beds. Not sure what value the slabs will have because of there size but we will see !
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Quote from: quadracutter222 on March 10, 2019, 11:19:10 PMI think there was a bit too much yak yak when the saw was running!
But it sounded like a sawing/learning gig. No time is ever wasted when sawing. ;D
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Quote from: quadracutter222 on March 10, 2019, 11:19:10 PMI think there was a bit too much yak yak when the saw was running!
But it sounded like a sawing/learning gig. No time is ever wasted when sawing. ;D
You mean we are not suposed to be yak yak when we are at the mill. What will I tell all the people that drop by?
Bout the only time when yacking is not allowed with me is when I am sawing for a customer and someone sees the sawmill and stops. I will pause long enough to give them a business card, tell them to watch and give me a call, and then continue sawing.
Post Oak trailer decking and cedar over the weekend.
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Bubble Gum :D
Looks mighty Sweet. ;)
Deese why is there a 2lb hammer in the board drag back?
Is it to stop the bounce of the arm?
Picked up some 5-6 foot walnut and cherry logs and a pretty decent honey locust log from a tree trimming service close by finish the load off with a little oak for fire wood I thought I did alright for $50
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Nothing special but the price was right should be some good stuff to play and learn on
Quote from: Peter Drouin on March 11, 2019, 08:06:56 PM
Deese why is there a 2lb hammer in the board drag back?
Is it to stop the bounce of the arm?
I thought they all came from the factory like that....
Sawing as we speak. I keep it there so it's within arm's reach when I need it to keep my tailgunners in line.
Delivering this load tomorrow.
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Every thing on the back is pine 2x8s 6x10s and a couple of 2x10s. The 2x8s are cut to length. The two bundles on the front are mixed hardwood. Oak, poplar and cotton wood. Cottonwood smells like a hog pen. :o Banjo
Deese how does the post oak work out for trailer decking? I got alot of it here on the farm and need to redo my 16 ft trailer. Was gonna use cedar but im thinking it would be a little soft.
Kwill please don't use cedar for decking. Not sure where you are located but if you have post oak, use it. Post oak is in the White Oak family and is much stronger and almost as good as it gets.
I don't have a resaw. It's 10:30pm here and I just figured out my own redneck resawing method. It's super simple and I'm sure many people have done this but I've tried everything under the sun with poor results until I just tried this. Much faster than using clamps and such. I had about twenty 2x8x12 post oak boards that were culled from a recent decking order because of cracks on one end. Got a customer who has a small 5x8 trailer and needs 1.5" thick decking. It's really not that labor intensive and actually works.
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Quote from: Deese on March 11, 2019, 11:25:49 PM
Kwill please don't use cedar for decking. Not sure where you are located but if you have post oak, use it. Post oak is in the White Oak family and is much stronger and almost as good as it gets.
Im in missouri. I have red oak white oak and post oak. Lots of cedar. I used cedar for the side boards.
Kwill, Post Oak is probably the best available species that you could use. It certainly is my "go to".
Deese, that is a "heavy" solution. ;D
I have a trailer that needs new deck was trying to get a white oak but after reading and thanks for the information gained I will just cut up a post oak ;D
The snows too deep to saw but in a few days it might be gone or maybe even deeper. I love winter and will love it even more when it's gone.
Quote from: bwstout on March 12, 2019, 08:23:08 AM
I have a trailer that needs new deck was trying to get a white oak but after reading and thanks for the information gained I will just cut up a post oak ;D
bwstout,
The Oak family (
Fagaceae) is divided into two major groups or subgenera.
Red & Black Oaks are in one group (
Erythrobalanus) containing many species and all have similiar characteristics.
The White Oak group or subgenera (
Leucobalanus) contains many species and all have similiar characteristics.
Although there is an actual species called the White Oak tree, the Post Oak tree is in the same group. Either species is suitable for decking.
Last Sunday I drove 3 hours with my LT15go. An LT35 being pulled by a white Excursion passed me by giving me a thumbs up.
It was 1°F on Monday morning and it was difficult starting the engine. Probably hard on the engine. Subsequent days I blanketed the engine and used a propane heater to warm it first. The 4th day I melted my Lube hose and water shut off valve.
I was cutting 1 face of hewn hardwood barn timbers that were going up as tRimberframe in a living room, dining room, and kitchen. Even though I thoroughly de-nailed these timbers, I still ended up going through 16 bands due to nail strikes(24 timbers in all). They were softer square nails so I boxed them up took them to Resharp.
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30 minutes after this last selfie was taken, a tire shredded on the mill. I didn't have a spare. It was 7:30pm on Friday night about two hours from home. A lot of tow/tire places were closed and it was pretty rural where I was but I found one great tow/tire service there the owner came and put the mill on his flatbed and took it back to his place. The 12" tires and 4 lug rims on the mill are pretty rare these days. He thought it probably wouldn't be til Monday to get a new tire. Sat morning he called me and said none of the warehouses in Indiana had any, but one of his warehouses in my town in IL had them. I went and got them and he had me drive back to his place. I got there at 3:30pm on Saturday and he changed them out and even found me a spare used rim in his stash at his shop. His tow, and changing the tires and the spare rim came to $260 which I thought was very reasonable. His poor family, I don't think he ever not on call. His diligence let me get the mill home Saturday night and I got it set back up in my shop on Monday with the extensions and planer head. Ready to work again- but in the warm shop now....
Quote from: Brad_bb on March 12, 2019, 01:16:05 PM, I still ended up going through 16 bands due to nail strikes(24 timbers in all). They were softer square nails so I boxed them up took them to Resharp.
I didn't know there was a re-sharpening service for square nails :D ;D
Sorry for your road problems, that is a miserable thing, but sounds like you found a good guy in that service fellow. You got kind of lucky and it all ended well. Chances re you will remember how nice those beams look much longer than you will remember the misery of the trip. Nice work.
thanks Deese Post Oak is plentiful around my place and for the information
Brad,
Try running a little Lucas engine oil additive in your oil, the stuff is the real deal and you will never be without lubrication in those kinds of conditions. I have used it for years but never really understood just how good it was until I had a 6.5 fail on me - big surprise right!! Well I pulled the motor from the truck and was installing a Humvee take out when I realized that the oil pans were not compatable so I pulled the pan on the old engine, which was still running on 7 cylinders when I pulled it several weeks earlier, and much to my surprise all of the cylinder walls were still coated with the Lucas. It looked like the motor had been running 20 seconds earlier, not several weeks. Now all of my engines get a dose of Lucas every couple of oil changes, maybe 10% - 15% by volume, the stuff is well worth the money as a safety in my opinion.
Southside, It's seldom that I'm milling outside, let alone in the winter, but next time I will definitely consider it. I hope to convert to electric within the year, so after that, no more milling outside/portable.
The only sawing that I did today was chainsawing last year's growth from the 8 Crepe Myrtle trees and then....
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Mowing the lawn. She says that tomorrow I will trim all of the shrubbery. Heck, I would much rather be sawmilling. ;D
I picked up sticks and limbs today that were down courtesy of hurricane Michael so that we can mow :).
We have had several nice, sunny days with enough wind to dry up some of the worst of the mud so the last 2 days I burned my old slab pile which was in pretty sad shape and today I moved my new slab pile which had gotten to the point I could barely mill at my normal site. Tomorrow I plan on moving the sawdust and rake up the small broken edging pieces and bark and probably burn them on site. I also dragged down some more of the basswood tops and limbs and a small broken buckeye and sawed them into next year's firewood. A couple more trips up there will get the rest then fix my shooting house for this fall/winter hunting season. I lost a few boards when the basswood broke the small buckeye which fell on the roof of my shooting house. I just hope this weather continues.
Quote from: WDH on March 12, 2019, 08:04:45 PM
I picked up sticks and limbs today that were down courtesy of hurricane Michael so that we can mow :).
WDH,
I don't think I will need to worry about mowing until next week!
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Quote from: Old Greenhorn on March 12, 2019, 02:13:10 PM
Quote from: Brad_bb on March 12, 2019, 01:16:05 PM, I still ended up going through 16 bands due to nail strikes(24 timbers in all). They were softer square nails so I boxed them up took them to Resharp.
I didn't know there was a re-sharpening service for square nails :D ;D
If he hadn't cut the square nails off, he wouldn't have had to box them up and send them to resharp. ;D ;D
$260 seems pretty reasonable. When I blew a 12" tire a few years ago, it cost me $90 to have les shwaub bring me a tire and rim about 3 block and I had to put it on the mill.
Gonna be Sawing.....
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Started a new build for the builder I occasionally work for. Started clearing Monday so I went by and marked some poplar that I want delivered. I'm guessing about 3000 bf. I don't know why but I marked a couple of hickory to add to the load (they are still standing). I was tempted to mark more to bring but I'm afraid of my wife. :D I already have to figure out how to get these here without her knowing.
Most of you may know that my sawmill doesn't get too see much action because of the amount of other work but I really get frustrated driving past my mill to go buy lumber for different jobs that need to be done.
So as soon as these show up, "I promise" no work gets done until these are sawn and stickered. I do use a lot of poplar so should be about a years supply.....
And those are some good ones. I love to saw Tulip. :)
Wow 5 days and 65 replies already.
I am at least until after the gathering at Customsawers away from putting blade to log.
Need to burn slabs and finish up the 5 mbf job started last fall.
Quote from: Peter Drouin on March 11, 2019, 08:06:56 PM
Deese why is there a 2lb hammer in the board drag back?
Is it to stop the bounce of the arm?
Peter Drouin,
In all seriousness, I simply need to replace the grease fitting. The cable that lifts/releases the arm has been broke for a while and I just haven't replaced it. Not really sure how that happened. I don't use the dragback all the time but needed it the other day with those heavy oak boards. The arm wouldn't fall freely, tried adding grease and the fitting wouldn't take any. Didn't have extra grease fitting but did have a hammer :D
My first day back sawing logs in the shop since last week sawing barn beams. The six weeks before that I had only sawed 7 logs as I was hewing most of the time. Today I hit the backstops twice!! One damaged teeth enough to cause a slow dive. Second one was against a loose backstop that got pushed down as a few sparks came off. Where's my head at today?! I did get 7 small to medium walnut logs milled though.
Ok Brad,
Need to post this one in the "Did something Dumb" thread, ;D two in one day, that's honorable enough to be included in that thread I would think.
Glad you were back to making saw dust, been a long winter here and just barely getting the mill up into operation with the snow finally subsiding.
I plan on sawing this post oak into trailer decking this evening/tonight if the rain holds. It is close to 20' long and HEAVY. I'm hoping I can get it loaded with the assistance of a chain and the hydraulic clamp. The pic is a bit deceiving, but it is a big log. We shall see.
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My radar shows that you should be able to saw it before the rain gets there, but you ain't sawing yet. ::)
It keeps raining on and off and I don't even have the mill set up next to it yet so the heck with it. I'm going to go sharpen a blade or two. Maybe... I'm getting my boy this weekend so sawing will most likely wait until next week.
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Deese and his boy will have that thing milled before 8 O'clock.
My mill is at my cousin's place. We milled 1 and 2 inch slabs out three 36+ red oak logs. We worked hard to get the logs set just right beyond the log stop plane and within the roller guides to maximize the slab width. And we did good and made some pretty lumber.
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Sugar Maple.
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Finally back sawing again! Central Wisconsin was buried by multiple snowstorms, the likes of which I haven't seen in years, and I was too busy digging out to do any sawing. Thankfully the snow has finally started melting, and the temp hit 50 today. I had a repeat customer call, (who bought my curved Yellow Birch), asking for slabs. I sold him what I had cut previous, and sawed more Sugar Maple today that had nice crotch figure.
(Thank you Jeff and MM for keeping the Watcha Sawin' thread going!)(https://forestryforum.com/board/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
Found a big lag bole in this log.
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When I cut with a hole in the log like this, I set the whole on a 45° Of a face I want.
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Trying to save all the wood from that log. :)
I spent a couple days this week cleaning up my yard and milling a few logs. I sawed a couple nice birch, a pair of 16 foot spruces for 2x6s and several cottonwood for roof sheathing for my shed extension. The cottonwood sure had some nice color.
With my two week on/two week off schedule I don't get as much time on the mill as I'd like. Here's a couple of pictures. The first is my sawmill tractor. A 1951 Clark tug tractor that someone added a blade and forklift to sometime before I got it.
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That cottonwood can have some nice color. The stack is quite a bit higher now and I still have three 12' logs left to mill.
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I went this morning and looked at an upcoming job. The customer is still bringing logs out and they will all be moved to the sawing site.
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This is 7 of what will be about 20 mostly White Oak logs which will be sawn 2" for three ply crane/construction mats.
This job is only 9 miles from home. ;D
We are sorta drying out and folks are starting to get serious about sawing.
Quote from: mart on March 16, 2019, 12:33:09 PM
I spent a couple days this week cleaning up my yard and milling a few logs. I sawed a couple nice birch, a pair of 16 foot spruces for 2x6s and several cottonwood for roof sheathing for my shed extension. The cottonwood sure had some nice color.
With my two week on/two week off schedule I don't get as much time on the mill as I'd like. Here's a couple of pictures. The first is my sawmill tractor. A 1951 Clark tug tractor that someone added a blade and forklift to sometime before I got it.
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That cottonwood can have some nice color. The stack is quite a bit higher now and I still have three 12' logs left to mill.
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Hey Marty!! That cottonwood sure is nice looking. Bet it would make some beautiful paneling. Your yard is much clearer than where my mill is sitting. I started clearing the snow around mine yesterday. Maybe I'll finish it up this afternoon.
WLC,
We should get together for some coffee. I'll send a PM.
Cottonwood does make nice paneling. I did about 1000 square feet for a friend's cabin. They love it. I'm experimenting with it as roof sheeting this year. As long as it stays dry it holds up well. The logs came from a friends work site last fall. Just had to take the trailer over and he loaded them for me. I'm also using cotton wood 6x10s for the beams in my extension. It will be covered open storage for the tractor and some lumber. Next is a saw shed and an extension on the garage.
Quote from: Magicman on March 16, 2019, 01:26:31 PM
I went this morning and looked at an upcoming job. The customer is still bringing logs out and they will all be moved to the sawing site.
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This is 7 of what will be about 20 mostly White Oak logs which will be sawn 2" for three ply crane/construction mats.
Either some of those 'logs' are way too small for 2x material or the big logs are REALLY big.
Alan
Some of the more interesting things I've been sawing lately.
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That is some very interesting sawing BS.
Quote from: alan gage on March 16, 2019, 05:08:35 PMEither some of those 'logs' are way too small for 2x material or the big logs are REALLY big.
You can see six of the seven 14"+ logs on the lower right of the whack. The butt log is pushing 24". He has 4 maybe 6 trees still standing that will come down. Afterwards he will level a spot for sawing and move all of the saw logs there. Since he has brought it out, I'm sure that the small stuff will be firewood. This is a land clearing project and all of the stumps are being excavated.
Quote from: mart on March 16, 2019, 12:33:09 PMA 1951 Clark tug tractor that someone added a blade and forklift to sometime before I got it.
That looks great. There have been a couple tugs for sale near me and I'm tempted. I need a tractor but a tug looks like it would do better on my hills with a lower center of gravity. How well does it push dirt with that blade? And the fork lift, works well?
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Quote from: mart on March 16, 2019, 12:33:09 PMA 1951 Clark tug tractor that someone added a blade and forklift to sometime before I got it.
That looks great. There have been a couple tugs for sale near me and I'm tempted. I need a tractor but a tug looks like it would do better on my hills with a lower center of gravity. How well does it push dirt with that blade? And the fork lift, works well?
It does pretty well with pushing dirt. It can put down pressure on the blade so it works pretty well for back blading. It does much better now with pushing snow since I put new tractor tires on it. It had the old military knobbies which were really smoothies as the knobs were about wore off.
I'm not happy yet with the forklift. I think I'll move it to the front and set it up to switch between the blade and the forklift by pulling a couple pins and using quick connect hydraulic fittings. I may need to look at a higher pressure or volume pump as the forks run a lot slower with weight on them. It also will pick the front end up if I try to pick up a heavy log or stack of lumber.
My sawing buddy thinks the front end is too light for the forklift but for no more than it travels, my lot is only an acre, it would last me many years I'm sure. It's not like I'd be running it hours a day with a lot of weight on the forks. I'm open to suggestions.
Never heard of them tugs,nor seen one.
My neighbor Jim had a ERC tree split in the wind, he had it taken down and then called and asked if I wanted it. they cut it short, and several branches were sheared by the stress. My question is about the golden honey like stuff at a junction of the bark and sapwood. Is it technically sap or pitch or none of the above. @GeneWengert-WoodDoc (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=20498)
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this tree was just cut yesterday and there are several cracks, and am concerned they may travel the length of the log.
It was free from Jim 4 doors down, I try to not turn down folks so they will continue to call and give me free stuff.
all depends who you ask. But I say sap until its cooked then its pitch.
Quote from: thecfarm on March 17, 2019, 02:13:06 PM
Never heard of them tugs,nor seen one.
They were, and still are used to move aircraft. Mine originally was out on the Elmendorf Airforce base.
Happy St. Patrick's Day. Fishing buddy GD #3 is 7 today. Sold my first wood off Craigslist today to a lady. Most expensive board I have sold to date - $430 + WV sales tax. 43 bf, live edge 10' long 9/4 walnut slab I had milled March 15 of last year. First piece of that tree to sell and now I have recouped my sawing/slabbing cost and most (part?) of my transport 40 miles over and back. Now if I can sell the rest I will be in the black on that log. If this turns out as we hope I suspect she will be back for more.
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One of the walnut 9/4 slabs. Air dried one year complete with water marks.
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Couple more. Range from 42 -57 bf
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Used to 5X8 trailer to display. Broke down the stack using the tractor and fel to display each board. A little time consuming but paid off this time.
Then I move a 4' ash curved butt to saw for benches. Put several together to circle and face in to a firepit or outward from a tree .
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Big flare for short piece.
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Sawed 8/4 LE slabs for primitive mortise & tenon benches. Most are about 14" wide on small end and 18" or so large end.
Then I sawed a 6' 9-10 inch ash log into a 6X6 for crib blocks (Not shown) and then sawed an ugly 6' walnut crotch. I needed Nathan here to advise and help.
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While trimming/Bibbying to fit between the blade guide that limb stub sticking up yielded 6-7 real pretty 4/4 craft ovals from about 16-30 inches long.
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Then got 10-8/4 6' long LE slabs. Some Black ants from a knothole but the wood was solid and about 16" average. That is a size I can use to make benches or woodworkers like them. Over 160 bf out of that ugly crotch.
@mart (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=11968) did that cottonwood smell as good as it looked? 🐷 banjo
Quote from: Banjo picker on March 17, 2019, 08:03:01 PM
@mart (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=11968) did that cottonwood smell as good as it looked? 🐷 banjo
I've always heard that cottonwood stinks when sawed but maybe Alaska cottonwood is different. Little to no smell really.
Must be different down south. I cut some last week and it smelled like a hog pen. It did make nice lumber, I also remember it being very wet wood. Banjo
elm can smell like urine, not sure if it is ammonia. We call it "pith elm" and it will even make you hands smell for hours if handling it. Oak has kind of a bad smell. Cottonwood has not struck me as too bad a smell. On the ERC, if it is sap i would expect it from the "sapwood". It is sticky and you cannot hardly get it off you hands. It is really at the cambium area. We talk about setting pitch so I assume it would be pitch before it is heated to "set the pitch" and maybe the terms are used interchangeably.
Cottonwood gets confusing. Most of us are sawing Eastern Cottonwood (Populus deltoides). As you get West/Northwest I believe the term cottonwood gets applied to another species.
I didn't find cottonwood to smell too bad on the mill but certainly does when cutting in the shop after it's dry.
This link shows the different species, and explains the differences, that seem to alternately be called cottonwood and poplar: https://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/poplar-cottonwood-and-aspen-whats-what/
Alan
English walnut orchard trees today. Really tasty stuff...
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One thing that helped me sell a big walnut slab yesterday was having a piece of "craft wood" that was natural on one side but had been planed and a couple of coats of tung oil on the other. I was able to place it next to the walnut slab and show the customer a before and after to show her what the slab would look like after finished/sanded smooth and tung oil added. it helped close the deal.
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Before - rough sawed next to the slab she was interested in
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After - shows how the wood should look when finished. That was a big question answered.
A couple gave me a truck load of red oak logs a few months back. Of course it cost me a couple hundred dollars to get them transported. All the guy asked was 2- 1X8X8 boards. I cut the two smallest logs a few weeks ago but was not happy with the finished boards to pay my debt due to cracks, splits, knots, etc. Today I sawed a 12'9" log into an 8' log and a 4' one. I sawed the 8' into 4/4 and the 4' one into LE 8/4 for benches or such. I pulled the best 2 - 1X10's to take to the guy in a few days.
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6 small diameter logs. Already sawed 2 shortest ones.
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6 largest logs. One on front is 18' long. I pulled the 3rd logs back
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Bucked it to 8' & 4'. Lot of flare on the butt log
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4/4 boards.Most are 1X10's. Not shown are 4 - 8/4 slabs About 80 bf total in what was the original 12' log.
Whatcha sawin' 2019?
Red oak:
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Those that have seen my posts before will know what these are.
Jim Rogers
If I guess trailer decking would I win a prize?
I sawed some RO yesterday and went out and sanded a 4' LE 8/4 slab on one side and put a coat of tung oil on it. Boy is that some pretty wood! I have 4 of those slabs and will take them to my contact who does the Lichtenburg processing in a couple of weeks when the flea markets open around here again. He told me oak does well with that. I was thinking to make Mortise and Tenon benches out of them.
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Lichtenberg on a wild cherry bench. RO is supposed to work even better so I am waiting to see how this turns out.
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Sawing has taken a back seat to a persistent case of veritgo. Ten days I didn't dare even move the truck in the yard. Saturday I felt better so I thought I'd clean up around the log yard and haul firewood logs/cut offs from cutting logs to length for the sawmill.
Well that didn't turn out good! Here are my fingers after 4 days of healing. A log rolled and mashed my middle two fingers against the standard on the truck. I really had thought I'd forgotten my inappropriate vocabulary until that moment. After my buddy who was there helped with some first aid, he said, "I've never heard those words put together in such a creative and meaningful way." And he served in the infantry.... Yes those are self installed drains in my fingernails.
The vertigo is better at least. Spend 8 hours milling today, 120 pine 1x4x16' for battens and 30 2x8x10" for the top boards on a fleet of dump trucks. Have 20 more to cut tomorrow. Need to complete an order for 4x6x8' white oak tomorrow as well.
Looks like Jim is making trailer decking puzzles again!
Today I took a wide slab that I chainsaw milled last year and had kiln dried recently and planed it flat to 2.25". I had split the slab in two because it was already mostly naturally split and my buddy wanted to make a river table so I just drove a wood wedge in and finished the split. Anyway today we jointed/planed it with the Woodmizer MP100 beam planer. It was 8ft long, but he needed a 5 ish foot table for his new place. He's going to do the epoxy river in a translucent smoke tint, but he's also planning to put a walnut island in the opening to reduce the pour by about a gallon or so and we think it will look good. This piece had some of the carpenter ant nest but he liked that and will look good when epoxied. I got two other slabs from that tree that did not have ant nest. I'll make tables from those later.
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Finally got a new phone case so my pics are clear now.
Today's work: Debarking several big logs and....
17' Walnut gunstock post. 10x10 with 16" gunstock.
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25' Walnut 19/22.5 dia. straight, no knots other than crotch at top.
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I cut the opening face and then pulled the log off the mill on the ground in front of the mill and rolled it on bunks. Monday it goes back on the mill to finish milling. Logs this big are better to pull off with forklift to roll them on bunks on the ground.
While I did that, my mill buddy Johnny was debarking 4.5" and 6.5" Cherry brace stock that's been sitting in the barn for over a year and sanding the live edge. They'll get jointed/planed later.
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maple stump table, going to the home of Randi the director of the trauma department at my old hospital. she offered to donate 300$ to my polyurethane fund! i declined.
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I've been sawing slabs most of this week. This morning I was cleaning some up to market and this one caught my eye. Had a lot more color than the others.
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Think its a keeper. I might turn a platter or maybe wall art out of this section.
an elm that kept staring at me so I put it one the mill to try out the green laser line.
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Finished up my biggest sawmill job to date today. Ended up milling at this sight 5 days. Sadly, I wasn't able to make it 5 consecutive days, due to bad weather and a broken rib it took 3 months. All blued pine, mostly 2x4 and 2x6's.
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Big ole pine boards...
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Those 1X16's have some mighty tight grain. Gonna make somebody very happy. 8)
Just catchin up, @Brad_bb (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=6191), have Johnny try flipping that drawknife over.
I was wondering if anyone else had noticed. :-X :)
I had not, MM maybe brad uses a draw knife "hand model". for his photo shoot. :)
That's just the more aggressive way to use it. We're just busting bark off there. I use it that way draw knifing pegs too. I actually prefer to use it that way more of the time. Done it both ways. To each his own.
Busy day but love the nice weather
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Nice sawing, one thing we all have in common lots of saw dust and lots of slabs. It looks like the lt10 is doing a good job.
Was a service day on the mill. Had to replace a bearing in the clutch. Real first bearing to go out on my 126. Was able to buy it local. A true 1"x2" bearing. ;D After that, I pulled the mill out from under the saw shack. Got the backhoe in there to remove a year of saw dust. When to get the tractor to finish the clean up, but found it had a front flat tire. >:(
Will have that fixed tomorrow, change oil on mill and then move the mill back home.
Surprised there is less posting on this thread than in the past. I'm posting more because I'm into some big walnut. Maybe a lot of guys have big walnut?
Here's a 10.5x16x24+ft Walnut that is good enough to be a tie beam(in the foreground).
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I got a few jacket boards from this log that looked like this. I like the clean sapwood contrasting with the heartwood.
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Brad, there are very few Walnut trees in my area that would saw out a timber like that. :o
Makes my heart flutter.
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Brad, there are very few Walnut trees in my area that would saw out a timber like that. :o
Same thing here. I don't think we have the right type soil for them to grow well. I have a couple of walnuts down by the road that don't look like they have grown any in 50 years. I use to throw rocks or walnuts up in the tree to knock the walnuts down when I was waiting on the school bus ... just for kicks. I don't think they would be much over 14 inches right now. Banjo
Banjo, I'll just bet those small for their age walnuts have some beautiful wood in them. Nice tight grain along with all the character that comes with age.
I'm still working on the two loads of walnut I got back in Fall of '17. I started with smallest stuff first so now I'm down to the big 'uns. About 22 or so sticks to go, but I can only do about one a day because they are so much to deal with, and then edging the jacket boards etc. This last one was pretty amazing because it was so straight and didn't have a crotch until 24 or 25 feet. I thought it didn't have any knots but I came across one buried inside that was 2.5"dia in the middle, but it's also centered in all directions, so it's on the neutral axis, which is best. On the neutral axis, there is neither compression, nor tension, hence neutral. And it's only on one face.
Couple of years ago I saw some tall straight Walnut trees in a NY State Park and it took me a while to figure out what they were. Amazing.
Well i was milling a nice white oak
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Till this happened
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Axle broke ruined the blade and for sure one tire and maybe the other. Spent a few days getting this thing back together and finally had the raise and lower part fixed where it works good and this happens. Really didn't need this to happen at the moment with my building half built and no way to cut the lumber for the header now. 8)
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Similar to Brad's,, what we are cutting this week. Also the last of the grafted walnut . These walnuts are too big for the mill and the 100 pound trim chunks go to the local school and a veterans turning group.
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got an air dry 2 " slab out for a youth paster/scout master today. 17% MC and planed out nice. this was and elm log that had already grayed and split on the outside. found a nice slab to make a corner tv stand. been air drying 1 year, occ. blowing of tarps. some 31" wide by 10 feet long.
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great grain pattern but he did not want to apply finish until he is sure how he wants to do the final finish.
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I never ever want to see that! :o
I just wonder how long it's been broke. It was broke off inside of the pillow BLock bearing
Since there was blade tension on your band wheels and the pillow block bearings are "loose" in the housing, I would venture that it was a catastrophic flow of events and that it happened immediately when the last portion of the rod broke.
The twisting action broke the rod at the point where the rod was loose and the rod was tight inside of the race.
Its a bummer cause i finally got the raise and lower working good. And that first pass it cut nice and straight 8)
I agree with the bummer. "No good deed goes unpunished" seems to fit your situation. :-X
there looked to be a little oxidation (rust) at the brake but most of it looks fresh. maybe a prev. stress that left a weak point. just working the bugs out.
Serious bummer! I hope you can get it back on the road again soon, so you can get back to work on the building.
Kwill - do you know what type of steel that axle was? More of a in case I need to build something question.
Kwill, that is not so pretty good. Sorry to see that sort of thing happen. I know that you can and will fix it. I'm no engineer, but I'd be thinking of some way to beef that shaft up a bit, bigger, stronger, something. Good luck!
Kwill, I second Darrels opinion. Looking at your second photo it looks like the flange face that your band wheel attaches to is about 8" past the bearing(my guess from the photo). Once your blade is tensioned up there is tremendous leverage in that 8" acting upon that shaft. Depending on the type of shafting and load on it this could be critical in repairing it properly. If there is bending of the shaft which you probably would not see, it's like bending a wire back and forth as the wheel/shaft goes round and round and eventually fatigues.
I would talk to a good machine shop with your dimensions and load on the shaft and see what they say.
Quote from: donbj on March 27, 2019, 12:33:24 AM
Kwill, I second Darrels opinion. Looking at your second photo it looks like the flange face that your band wheel attaches to is about 8" past the bearing(my guess from the photo). Once your blade is tensioned up there is tremendous leverage in that 8" acting upon that shaft. Depending on the type of shafting and load on it this could be critical in repairing it properly. If there is bending of the shaft which you probably would not see, it's like bending a wire back and forth as the wheel/shaft goes round and round and eventually fatigues.
I would talk to a good machine shop with your dimensions and load on the shaft and see what they say.
It's not past 8 inches. The hub sets right against the pillow block bearing. The shaft came from surplus center. My options to quick fix. The shaft was long enough I can use it again. But by doing so I risk ruining 2 more tires when it breaks again. However I did mill quite a bit of lumber with the 1 inch shaft. I really need this thing going and don't have the funds at the moment to fix it the way it needs to be with pulleys instead of tires. I got some tires I can make work for now. Really all I need to mill is one header beam and 8 more rafters and 14 2x4 to get the building with the roof on. So a quick fix may be in the works. Other wise the mill will set along with the saw shed till I can fix it right which will be awhile.
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my guess is the side load broke it. I'd put two pillow bearings on it so it can't bow it.
A nurse I work with, and her husband who was a cub scout dad,and there son came over to get a slab of elm 2" by 22" by 10 feet. for a seat in front of an electric fireplace. Their son is graduating so trying to finish the living room remodel. Sorry Brad, but I told them they might be famous of they gave a thumbs up
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@Brad_bb (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=6191)
PS addendum/update: I guess I am getting up there in age, I meant to direct this @Jim_Rogers (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=95) not Brad. Sorry for my confusion!
Had a friend come over and help me Saturday, we sawed up some SYP 2x6's and made a pallet for them.
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Also cut down my first poplar and sawed up a section into 5/4's. Wow, that put a big smile on my face, so easy to mill and really pretty inside, the pics don't it justice.
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Tulip and Cypress are probably my favorite species to saw. 8)
I can see why. thumbs-up
Sorry I'll miss you in Georgia next weekend, hope you heal up fast.
"Resawing" live edge poplar slabs
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I am not sawing yet as there is still about 10 inches of snow at my mill.
My target for gearing up is when we return from Jake's gathering.
Then plan to finish the big (for me) Hemlock job I didnt get done last fall.
I am getting antsy
I sawed up a 20" diameter top end, by 20' long red oak yesterday, into trailer planks and blocking.
The customer ordered 6x12"x4' and I got five out of that log:
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Today, I'll be edging all the planks made on the way to the center blocking.
Jim Rogers
Correction: on post 139 by my computer, I meant to tag and poke fun at Jim and not Brad. I guess I am getting Old timers disease. sorry for the confusion. i had been reading the air drying pallet rack and the go between Brad and Tom. smiley_heh_heh
Quote from: Magicman on March 26, 2019, 08:16:18 AM
Couple of years ago I saw some tall straight Walnut trees in a NY State Park and it took me a while to figure out what they were. Amazing.
I might spend more time in the woods looking at trees now instead of Deer or Turkey :)
Helping out another co-worker from my prev. gig. Gage is an RN who was a medic in the air force. remodel in his basement and wrapping a glue lam beam. he already got some walnut for a mantel. now a little maple tree to wrap the beam. he was a mechanic in a prev. life pre-mil.
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bibbying up the log, 14 feet long.
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some nice grain and figure.
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Gage trying his hand at the mill, i am only 2 feet behind.
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21 inch by 5/16 " by 14 feet to wrap a beam with joint in middle of 24 foot beam.
This was not a perfect log, but his wife ( a colonel) wants rustic, so she gets rustic!!!
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first cut, maybe second.
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Quote from: doc henderson on March 28, 2019, 04:16:12 PMGage is an RN who was a medic in the air force.
Those skin colored chainsaw chaps must be something new. :-\
Yes.. i know. At least I hope i used the proper term. 'bibbying" . No medics were harmed in the making of this thread!
8)
BB there will be more posts, once us boys in the north come out of the deep freeeeeeeze. It has been a long winter up here and it still does not want to leave
And our woods have been too wet for skidding. :-\
It's dried up enough here to get some things done. I bucked 2 good sized (13-15 inch dia) maple trees that uprooted last Fall. I cut 6 - 8.5' logs, one 4' piece and another about 3'. I may cut one more 8.5' log. I am having to roll them down the steep draw with my LogRite and use a 2 ton cable come-along to move them when they get hung up. It is a days work just to walk up that steep slope and back. I want to cut one more upper log but it will be so hard to get out of the top I left it intact the other day. I am thinking about running a long 1/4" cable as a skyline to help get them down. At great risk and effort I can get my ATV to the ridge above it and I may take the cable and saw back up there tomorrow. I worked on them for 3-4 hours today and I was whipped when I got home.
Stunning grain in that Maple! When people ask about how I can enjoy working so hard when milling and they say it's "just lumber". I show them pictures like that. It may not help them understand but knowing I was the first one to see a beautiful board like that..... You can't show that in a picture
Quote from: Kwill on March 27, 2019, 04:50:53 PM
Quote from: donbj on March 27, 2019, 12:33:24 AM
Kwill, I second Darrels opinion. Looking at your second photo it looks like the flange face that your band wheel attaches to is about 8" past the bearing(my guess from the photo). Once your blade is tensioned up there is tremendous leverage in that 8" acting upon that shaft. Depending on the type of shafting and load on it this could be critical in repairing it properly. If there is bending of the shaft which you probably would not see, it's like bending a wire back and forth as the wheel/shaft goes round and round and eventually fatigues.
I would talk to a good machine shop with your dimensions and load on the shaft and see what they say.
It's not past 8 inches. The hub sets right against the pillow block bearing. The shaft came from surplus center. My options to quick fix. The shaft was long enough I can use it again. But by doing so I risk ruining 2 more tires when it breaks again. However I did mill quite a bit of lumber with the 1 inch shaft. I really need this thing going and don't have the funds at the moment to fix it the way it needs to be with pulleys instead of tires. I got some tires I can make work for now. Really all I need to mill is one header beam and 8 more rafters and 14 2x4 to get the building with the roof on. So a quick fix may be in the works. Other wise the mill will set along with the saw shed till I can fix it right which will be awhile.
Seems to be undersized shaft is the culprit. I hope you get it figgered out. Just for reference, I just replaced the bearings in my drive housing on my LT40 Woodmizer. The shaft is one and a half inches dia. The bandwheel sits about 3/8" inch or so from the housing so there is no chance for that side load flex to happen.
Just some loblolly pine for 2x6's with some 1x6's and some white oak for corral boards! ::)
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Well I took a chance and put it back together.
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Got this milled out into some nice 2x6 but then had to quit cause it started raining.
Burls today
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A 14 inch Cherry for someone who wants to build a table.
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It had some taper in it so I used the manual toe board to get the most out of it.
Finished logging activity and cleaning up around the mill yesterday. Time to
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move the LT35HD over to one of this years landings of white oak and get a few milled.
From where I am sitting, those look like mighty fine White Oaks. 8)
sorry guys and gals, the log in post 159 is a pin oak as suggested to me by Tom the Sawyer. Not a maple. Thanks Tom
Quote from: Magicman on March 30, 2019, 08:40:26 AMFrom where I am sitting, those look like mighty fine White Oaks.
I have 4 landings with about the same. Those gypsy moths have been tough on us. Took one of my horses for a ride through the wild life management area this afternoon. There must be several thousand acres of dead oak.
Wallaba fresh off the mill...lots more to come!
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IDK what wallaba is but I want some!!
So after releveling my mill (again) I cut a 22" pine into a 15x15 cant and got 28 -1"x8"x12' planks for a run in shelter, to use for board n batten (7-1/4" and 8") my mill HM126, has a max depth of 7-1/4". Here I'm turning the cant after I split it.
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Not sure I understand how the depth of cut is limiting your cant size
Dawg - did you blow by Jakes and head way south with your operation? ;D
Quote from: Dana Stanley on March 30, 2019, 09:27:39 PM
So after releveling my mill (again) I cut a 22" pine into a 15x15 cant and got 28 -1"x8"x12' planks for a run in shelter, to use for board n batten (7-1/4" and 8") my mill HM126, has a max depth of 7-1/4". Here I'm turning the cant after I split it.
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Quote from: btulloh on March 30, 2019, 09:57:41 PM
Not sure I understand how the depth of cut is limiting your cant size
I think the point Dana was trying to make was that he didn't want 15" boards for his project so the closest to splitting the 15" cant in half was 7 1/4" and 8". I have the same mill so I know what he's talking about. I wanted to cut multiple 8" x 8" out of a single log but had to settle for 1 8x8", 2 7x8"s and 1 7x7".
Quote from: Southside logger on March 30, 2019, 10:05:53 PM
Dawg - did you blow by Jakes and head way south with your operation? ;D
No, the wood came to me! But I will be at Jake's next Friday...you coming?
The problem I have is always looking at the large end of the log instead of the small end, which limits all usable lumber sizes!
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Quote from: Southside logger on March 30, 2019, 10:05:53 PM
Dawg - did you blow by Jakes and head way south with your operation? ;D
No, the wood came to me! But I will be at Jake's next Friday...you coming?
Yes Sir.
Even though we had rain all afternoon yesterday and snow last night I did my first custom saw job of the year today. It was ugly at best as the clients lot and drive are on a pretty good incline, but the fact that the job was all walnut somehow helped eased my pickup and TimberKing right in where it needed to be. The logs were all yard trees so not good quality. Lots of sapwood and none too straight. But DanG it was good to get the saw out and running. I believe there were 11 logs of various length between 4' to 10' in length. The client wanted mostly 1 1/8" boards and some 1 1/2" boards. He also wanted some wide 2"-3" slabs as well. Attached are a couple photos of some of the finished material.
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I can only hope he gets it properly stacked and stickered in the garage soon but I won't hold my breath.
Quote from: mtoo747 on March 30, 2019, 10:42:23 PM
I think the point Dana was trying to make was that he didn't want 15" boards for his project so the closest to splitting the 15" cant in half was 7 1/4" and 8". I have the same mill so I know what he's talking about. I wanted to cut multiple 8" x 8" out of a single log but had to settle for 1 8x8", 2 7x8"s and 1 7x7".
Ya, what he said! It's for board n batten, so I will be able to make it work fine.
Wall-I-Be-Waiting for answer to the previous post...what was that delicious looking cherry/walnut having a baby planks we saw above?
8) nice boards there DP
Milled this out today
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Congrats, you did what you had to do. 8)
Cutting oak is a little different than cedar. Seems a little slower
Quote from: Kwill on March 31, 2019, 10:27:32 PM
Cutting oak is a little different than cedar. Seems a little slower
I run mostly oak. Had a couple ash and maple yesterday. Seemed like going through warm butter!
Took a little effort but got this big red oak on my shade tree mill but not sure how to saw it. It is 31" at the big end and my mill throat is only 29" I can cut about 8" off of the top. I have never quarter sawn before but would like to do this one. So can I cut off 8" then rotate and cut it in half and the 1/4 saw?
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You will have to orient the log to fit you gantry as well. Lots of quarter sawing info here and on you tube.
the log appears to have two sides that are naturally flat so you can take that into consideration
Milling up some post oak 2x4 for the sawmill shed
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what are the dimensions of that tree. Beauty
Getting ready to be 2x4
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I had wondered whether that was Post Oak Kwill, didn't look pink enough to be White Oak. You are doing fine. smiley_thumbsup
bwstout, looks like you will be doing some chainsaw Bibbying to make that one fit. ::)
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The good, the bad and the ugly. the center of the pin oak showing the pith in the center and the outline of the juvenile wood from the original tree, and the quarter-sawn pattern at the edges with rays.
Quote from: Magicman on April 01, 2019, 02:35:33 PM
bwstout, looks like you will be doing some chainsaw Bibbying to make that one fit. ::)
yes sir not looking forward to that either it is 9' long the small end is 26" have a 12' section that is about 26" at both ends. trying to saw come cabent grade lumber to rebuild wife's kitchen someday ;D
I have had to Bibby many such logs.
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This one was too big.
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And had to be Bibbyed.
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This bad boy was 42".
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But the chainsaw made it fit. So it seems that no matter what sawmill you have, there will always be opportunities to whittle logs down to fit. :-\
i think I can just bibby one side and it will clear
It will for that pass but then you gotta turn it. ::)
Still fighting with my maple logs in the steep holler. Finally got them rolled down the hill far enough with a cant hook and cable come-along to reach them with 3-4 of my cables and pull them out with my 4 wheeler after some hair raising hill climbing and 3 point turning where I have to get off and walk beside it and keep it from turning over (It ain't a pretty sight!). I got 2 all the way down to the mill and 3 more within a short pull from the gate (So I can make a normal turn around). Its like climbing a 7-8 story building dragging 400' of 1/4" cable up the slope each time to connect to the next log. I will be glad to get this project done. After this there is one more big dead walnut on the property line but I noticed a hollow in it about 20' high and I may leave it for a den tree.
I am seeing a lot of pretty poplar in this holler I'm working it that are available for future needs/sales if I get calls for them.
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on April 01, 2019, 08:40:38 PM
Still fighting with my maple logs in the steep holler.
Thanks for this WV. I thought because I was an old guy, somewhat new to this game and working mostly with hand tools I was pretty much alone. I too have spent a bunch of time just trying to get a few logs down (or up) out of a tough spot. Rolling with a hook and throwing every chain and cable into the line. I still have a few piled up for the last such episode, but they are ready to skid out, the hard part is over. I was saving those until I found a use for them, and now a buddy wants to build a smoke house and these are perfect for him. (Funny thing is, I will only charge him for a blade, so I am giving them away after all that work.) Drove by them the other day, hardest logs I ever had you yank out. It will be easy at this point to get them on the mill, but it is nice to know that I am not the only guy doing the handwork and suffering through it from time to time.
OG,
Giving them to a friend will often result in more value than you'd get out of selling them to a stranger.
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I can relate to the work involved in getting logs to the mill. My mill is at our remote cabin, I skid each log to the mill via a homemade log skidder and a snowmachine. Winter is when I do most of my logging and staging at the mill for projects I have in the summer. In southcentral Alaska we are currently experiencing a massive Spruce Bark Beetle die off. Nearly all of our mature spruce trees have been infected and are currently dead standing. Beautiful old growth trees some of them 150 years old. Plenty of beautiful old trees to harvest and turn into lumber for projects. The abundance will be short lived though as they are starting to rot. The big tree and stump in the first picture is about 26" at the butt end. About as big as I can handle by myself... :) br>
Quote from: Magicman on April 01, 2019, 07:47:28 PM
It will for that pass but then you gotta turn it. ::)
Yes sir that is the hard part on a manual mill with a log that large.
AK, it is so sad to see beetle destruction but thanks for showing your way of salvaging some of them. 8)
I wrestled with this post oak log a few weeks ago. I had to use the 'ole farm jack to get it up on the loading arms.
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Weighing over 5,000lbs, the hydraulic loading arms could not lift the log off the ground. I chained the log to the hydraulic clamp and used my glove to protect the cylinder.
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Inch by inch, the clamp would pull, then the loading arms would lift ever so slightly. Then pull with the clamp, lift with the arms.
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The above picture shows just how large this log was. Notice the hydraulic clamp, which is fully extended upwards.
In fact, the rear hydraulic toeboard would not lift the log. I had to use the manual farm jack to lift the end, leveling the pith.
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Unfortunately sweep in the log only allowed me to get three 6" thick clear 18'6" beams. But there was enough clear 16'6" side lumber to fill an additional order for a 16' trailer. You can see the pith is centered on the beam to the left.
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Delivered with invoice. I left him a few more than he asked for.
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A couple weeks passed before the customer had time to install the new decking. I received the above picture yesterday evening just before they slathered it with used motor oil and diesel fuel. You can see he used the pith board, third board from the left. That one may need replacing in the near future. Time will tell. He was very pleased with the results and has ordered more decking material for his other trailers.
Filled and delivered a SYP order a couple days ago.
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I am glad to be sawing pine again.
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This fat boy made a pile of 1x8"s
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The cant in the picture below is still sitting on my sawmill. It will be all 1x12"s
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I delivered this two nights ago. Look closely and you can see Little Jack inspecting the shipment for any critters before departure.
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I can relate to the work involved in getting logs to the mill. My mill is at our remote cabin, I skid each log to the mill via a homemade log skidder and a snowmachine. Winter is when I do most of my logging and staging at the mill for projects I have in the summer. In southcentral Alaska we are currently experiencing a massive Spruce Bark Beetle die off. Nearly all of our mature spruce trees have been infected and are currently dead standing. Beautiful old growth trees some of them 150 years old. Plenty of beautiful old trees to harvest and turn into lumber for projects. The abundance will be short lived though as they are starting to rot. The big tree and stump in the first picture is about 26" at the butt end. About as big as I can handle by myself... :) br>
AK,
Some nice spruce logs there. We sure do have a lot of dead spruce in the Matsu valley. I floated the Little Susitna River last fall and being a sawyer, I cannot help but always check out the timber in any area. I estimated between Miller's Reach and Burma Landing, roughly 40 river miles, there were enough dead spruce within 100 feet of the river to cut lumber for 1000 homes.
Unfortunately, like you said, they get punky pretty quick. I'm helping a friend by clearing dead spruce from his property but easily a quarter of them are not worth bringing home. And many more are still in the throws of dying. Just a few green boughs at the top. It will be tough to find any healthy, large spruce before long.
Mart
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Mixture of Red Oak, Post Oak, Sycamore, Pecan, Cedar...... 5/4, 8/4, slabs, cookies. Fun job with all the variety the customer wanted. Best hands I've ever had work on the mill with me as well!
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Wow, you guys are turning out da good stuff. 8)
Deese,
I'm impressed with that big oak. Very well done. Hydraulics, magic hook, farm jack and elbow grease will go a long way.
I finally got my maple logs out of the holler and into the pasture this afternoon where I can move them with the ATV and log arch or with my little JD 750 and FEL. I have to decide what I want to do with them or whether to let them set and possibly spalt. As I understand I need to get fans on them as soon as I cut them. Is that correct?
If it was hot weather, that would be a must.
Deese....you are one work'n son of a gun!
I had a customer bring me 3 walnut logs to mill. One was 12' long and 18" across with a fork on the end. The other two where short 6'
and 15" across with a fork on the ends. I for got to take a picture of them before milling but did when I was mill them. He is bringing 2
or 3 more Monday. Here is the picture of what they looked like inside.
Sawwood
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I hope Magicman knows if he's not there in Georgia we WILL be talking about him. :D
:-X
Got a question. Anybody ever sawed up a tree stump? Really of thinking of cleaning one up, trim it out and open it up just to see what is inside one. ;D Got some big oak stumps I can do it to.
And you just said that you would burn a too big log before you would try to saw it. :D
Yes, I have sawn stumps and actually have a Walnut to saw. Much work cleaning, trimming, and turning. No fun. :-X
Well Lynn, you changed my mind. :D
Oh no! I was so looking forward to enjoying your misery. :D
I was not joking about having one to saw. It is a Walnut blowdown that I recovered and will saw the butt log, stump and all. Too wet right now. :-\
O.K., I didn`t saw them, but somebody did, I was driving across Florida and stopped at a sawmill operation and saw these and had to have a couple. Hoping you southern guys can help with the type of wood. I was told "old growth pecky cypress", I thought they would be good candidates for epoxy projects, bar top, table etc.,
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You were properly informed at the time of purchase. Lots of old pecky/wormy cypress sold down there. The area was covered in cypress till so much of it was cut. My grandfather used to talk about getting 10 cents each to girdle cypress. He'd have to build a scaffold above the butt flare roots to girdle them. They wanted them dead and dry when cut so they could float them out of the swamps at high water periods.
Show us what you do with it.
Yes to Pecky Cypress.
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Very similar to this. ;D
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The end of the log will reveal it's secret before you ever open it. ;D
Quote from: Kwill on March 26, 2019, 08:02:27 PM
I just wonder how long it's been broke. It was broke off inside of the pillow BLock bearing
I suspect the key way being in line with the end of the bearing was a factor. When you redo it ,don't make the key way any longer than necessary. Overhung load should not be more than one and one half of the shaft diaemeter
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O.K., I didn`t saw them, but somebody did, I was driving across Florida and stopped at a sawmill operation and saw these and had to have a couple. Hoping you southern guys can help with the type of wood. I was told "old growth pecky cypress", I thought they would be good candidates for epoxy projects, bar top, table etc.,
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I've heard of, seen and used- "Stone Boats" before, but this must be a "Slab Boat"...... Nice slabs!
First sawing job of the year. First sawing since September, actually.
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Dave,
Is that beech? What are you going to do with it? I never sawed but one small one in a mix of customer logs and it sawed like butter and was beautiful wood. The customer immediately set it aside for a wifey special project.
While the FF elite were in Ga eating grits and boiled peanuts us worker bees were slaving away. I broke down a stack of big walnut slabs and took detailed measurements to answer a customer's questions.
Next I sawed a small walnut crotch, bucked 8' off a 21' ash and sawed it into 2X6's and a couple of 2X4s to make some stacking skids for my demon maple I dragged out of the woods last week. The ash was spalted and getting brittle and just short of getting punky even though it was standing 2 days ago. It will work for this project but not for some others requiring more strength.
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34" walnut crotch cut into 8/4 slabs. Hard to clamp and jumped free one time which was not fun but not the worst experience I've ever had. I was thinking of the Grasshopper and his "stumps" as I sawed this as may be similar sizes to what he described.
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8'6" ash log on the arms and 3 of the walnut slabs in the FEL bucket. Not big but when the right woodworker comes along they will sell. (I'll ask about $30 each for them). Three more smaller ones in the bucket.
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Ash - 7-2X6's and 2- 2X4's. Enough to make a couple of stacking skids.
Yes, it's beech. Sawed for a woodworker. I saws 'em, then they load it up and then they leave. :D
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on April 06, 2019, 08:14:20 PM
While the FF elite were in Ga eating grits and boiled peanuts
"That's funny, I don't care who you are"
Quote from: Dave Shepard on April 06, 2019, 08:44:47 PM
I saws 'em, then they load it up and then they leave. :D
I sure hopes you get paid before they leave. ???
I have seen A LOT of beech,but I don't let the upland beavers cut the trees for me. :o
WV Sawmiller,someone has to work around here,but why does it always have to be me? ;D :D
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Quote from: Dave Shepard on April 06, 2019, 08:44:47 PM
I saws 'em, then they load it up and then they leave. :D
I sure hopes you get paid before they leave. ???
I only saw for a couple of trusted people, but yes, payment is usually required before anything leaves. I'm not a bank. I don't offer credit.
Worked with a logger yesterday who brings the oversized logs home instead of selling them to the mills for next to nothing. Sorry no pictures, but he had 4 large red fir but cuts that averaged 32" on the scale end. Then he brought out the western red Cedar, the first of which was the largest log I've milled to date. At 48" on the butt (30" on the scale end at 10') I had to bibby it with the chainsaw just to get the debarker past, so I could see how much to bibby to get it through the throat in order to bibby it with the mill. Alas, after turning something that looked like an ice cream cone into something that resembled a straight log, we made a pile of 1x6's. For the most part the weather held out with only a few short showers and one little hail flurry 👍🏻
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thats the way he went home good thing its olny 3 miles of back road
Jeff came over with a big beam I cut in 3 the kitchen floor it starting to sag the plan is to jack it up
Probably after 500' or so he had enough lift that he flew home at a low altitude. :o
I am loaded up this morning for another 230 mile road trip sawing timbers. Yup, same location/customer and same cut list. Yup, same sand. :-X
Travel and setup today and begin sawing tomorrow. move_it
I was cleaning up some log piles and found this 23" wide X 10 ft maple that has aged well, I six nice slabs out of it
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Still sawing my big Walnut logs. Today's Walnut was 22' long and 12.5" thick. The 2ft long crotch at the top was too wide for the mill(36 range) so I hewed it by hand. It will now sit in the barn for probably 6 months or until I need it and then I'll plane it. Hewing is a handy skill.
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I did not drive back onto the property but I did find eight 22' logs which I will saw tomorrow.
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I will buck them to 11' and yes, that is 100% sand. ::)
how is the knee mm ?
Better but I will continue to wear the brace especially while I am sawing. I surely don't want to twist it again. :o
Another load heading out tomorrow.
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Those two bundles on the front are nearly all oak. Makes the ole dodge hunker down. Wouldn't have got this cut without a shed. Rain just won't quit. It probably will about July or August. Banjo
Been sawing that SYP, leaving here by the trailer loads! 8)
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Corey,
That one on the mill has perfect growth rings. Very, very uniform.
I finally got the new to me mill into some logs and I must say, what a thrill! 8) Given it was the first time I got to run one, I threw on a variety of different species; some white pine, red oak, and then - given the history of this LT35 - I had to throw on a crotch walnut log! It was like 'Christmas in April', as some would say... :D
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QuoteI will buck them to 11' and yes, that is 100% sand.
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Black Ash.
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The snow melted enough back in the woods, (was over 2-1/2 feet deep at one time (https://forestryforum.com/board/Smileys/default/shocked.gif)), that I could get to a Black Ash tree I've been wanting to cut for some time. Decay had already turned some of the trunk into what looked like coffee grounds, but I was able to cut quite a few good 2 - 1/2" slabs, widest being just under 23", from it. I also cut a few blocks from a short sweep log I cut off at the stump end, that had good fiddleback grain.
Getting some big logs in to saw some pine slabs.
The Mahindra was grunting on this one.
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I have been milling up some spruce for small timber frame sheds.
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This nice little sleet and snow squall moved in about 3:45 this afternoon and Smiley and I headed to the truck and go get a coffee.
Thats nice weather Bruno!
Here's what I did on my birthday. Resawed some timbers most of the day. Some were 33 feet. Got some more of these tomorrow.
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Happy Birthday Dennis
I switched the order on my new mill to get command controls like yours.
Are they making flooring out of the timbers you sawed ?
Happy Birthday Dennis,
Did you buy yourself the birthday gift we were discussing? :D
Not yet probably going to see my brother and run his for a few days. Then I will make a "She gone" post too maybe.
My today's logs were not in a very favorable location so some changes needed to be made.
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D5 to the rescue and leveled the sand off quite easily.
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These are some nice stems and the new Stihl MS362C is making me happy.
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Three different times today the carpenters came after 1X8's.
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Two 22' and one 11' remaining. The plan is to knock a few more trees down tomorrow which I will saw at this location before I move to the other logs. Some of today's timbers and lumber is shown in the background.
It's been a while since I posted anything because I am just cutting SYP for my own lumber. However, I was able to saw something you don't see very often. It's a Mimosa which died in the fire we had last summer. I had hoped it would come back but the bark was burned through at the base. So what better thing to do than make it live on as woodworking lumber. I got 3 - 8' sawable logs. The wood is interesting, it looks somewhat like oak but cuts like pine.
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That is some real pretty boards.
Mark
Happy birthday Dennis
Bruno, this not flooring, customer making 33" and 22" box beams from the skins .
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Been sawing that SYP, leaving here by the trailer loads! 8)
Nice looking pine.....I couldn't help but notice your rafter construction. Should have installed a ridge board at the peak of the rafters. Do yourself a favor and cut some plywood gussets to fit, glue and screw on each side of each rafter. Also add a rafter tie about midspan. This should add considerable strength to your roof system.
Resontor and EOTE, those are examples of some eye popping :o lumber. 8)
Lynn,
Cool job but what are the carpenters using fresh cut 1X8's for?
Howard, they said that they needed 1X8's so I am providing some 1X8's. I have no idea what they were/are being used for. ::) ???
I finished the logs at the first setup and moved to more logs.
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I counted ~60 logs here. That bad boy that was first up was 38" X 40" on both ends. I have sawn 40"+ logs before but they all had taper and would be ~34" on the top end. This monster had no taper, and will go down in my book as probably the largest log that I have ever sawn.
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My Tailgunner after much Bibbying was done, but there was much more to be done. :-\
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Here is a little "trick" that I have used several time to move the cant toward the mast to allow for a wider cant to be sawn.
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When we finished sawing the ground was paved with Bibby dust. :o
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Here is a picture of the "development" as it was today. Five units finished and occupied. Interior finish work being done on six, and six more in various stages of being framed. There will be 70 units when completed and I have completed the cut list for probably 14 units.
At this time the customer is not positive where the additional logs will come from.
Lynn how is the knee?
Son Mark is coming today and we were going to put blade to log, but is 28 degrees out this AM with a high in the upper 30s so maybe just do some firewood.
I get too cold sitting at the easy end of the mill.
I have 155 2x6x16 Hemlock to saw to finish the order I was supposed to have done last November but my boat wreck put a stall on my sawing.
WV Linda and I spent 2 days with the elite at Jakes.
Lots of good eats but saw no grits and thank the almighty NO BOILED PEANUTS
There were boiled peanuts, you just did not see them.
Danny,
My faith in humanity is restored.
I truly hate to speak ill of other members but with a defective attitude like (I really hate to say this) that it may be best for all concerned that Pete moved back north from Fla to the glaciated regions of BearSwamp NY. Very sad but true. Some species just can't adapt to the vastly improved culture where planted.:( :D :D
Lynn,
Thanks for the tip on how to fudge out an extra couple inches on your mill for an oversized log. I know you had posted it before but it makes more sense now that I can see it. arteest-smiley
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I was sawing yesterday for a regular customer, we saw 14'x14' timbers that he blocks and then using at his axe throwing facility. Since I got the new Wide, the job is so much easier, I hardly have to get the tape measure out to see if the head will fit around the log. Except this noe was a little thick cut on the top
Yesterday we had some that maxed out the loader, he couldn't lift them, could only push them on to the mill, A little bit of mud on them >:( but he pays for the blades
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Pete, I am wearing my brace and I think the exercise is helping.
I see a few more fat logs but they are only about 34-35".
My loader is back so back to sawing.
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My homemade bandsaw sawmill sawing cedar - YouTube (https://youtu.be/sGruvASszJA)
That project is something to be proud of!
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That project is something to be proud of!
After some setting back and looking at it I figured out why I was having troubles. Fixed the issue and added a lube tank along with a 7 degree woodmizer blade " which the guy at woodmizer told me my 13 hp wouldn't pull it" I now am cutting nice and straight again with no issues so far.
13 HP with a turbo. A new low! In a good way. What species and width were you cutting?
Squeezing wood out of burls this week. Slow going, mixed results....
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Can't wait to see what this is gonna be. :)
I'm setting stuff aside for design ideas, the rest will be sold.
E-Tex, I love to see SYP go crazy even if there were come nails to contend with. :)
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My today's sawing went very well and we whittled the log whack down a bit. We will handle another big'un tomorrow. I think that it is ~34" butt.
I really missed meeting you last weekend, Hope the leg is getting better :)
Thanks Rob, it was a real letdown not to be able to attend. The knee prevented us from bringing the camper, but then other matters cropped up so maybe next year.
Well I hope so.Very energizing, the sawdust , the company, the stuff in the big jug........ 8) 8) 8) 8)
Yup, I noticed dat Jug-a-Lug picture. :o
I'm not that young anymore :D
A friend has been wanting us to take down a butternut at an old homeplace on his farm for some time, today we got together and got it on the ground and hauled some of the pieces home.
I should learn to ask more questions when they say its big. It is big but in a kind of unique way.
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That is a 6' bar on the 3120
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We had to split it vertically at the base to be able to get through it, I'd say this is not the first time a tree has grown from those roots. It looks like we'll get a few good slabs out of it and possibly some boards and benches from the limb wood.
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This was the stump where we took the rear off and then could get thru the front. It looks like the wood will have some character. I really figured we would hit metal in the vertical cut but the milling hasn't started yet .
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Rob, are you sawing with the 15 exclusively now?
More SYP here
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Leaves here fast as I can saw it! 8)
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Dang Dawg - that is some nice pine. I would love to have some of that.
Quote from: Southside on April 11, 2019, 10:32:24 PM
Dang Dawg - that is some nice pine. I would love to have some of that.
That's what you need for that historical work..I cut these off my own property
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Some tight ones for sure
Nice logs Dawg,
I wish we had SYP
You can make framing lumber and boards from it.
Our white pine only beams for timber framing and boards.
Is WP not strong enough for framing?
In a post and beam it is. My old place was timber framed, gambrel roof and it was all WP.
White pine dimension lumber, milled in states like Wisconsin, Michigan, And Minnesota, basically build the country. Twice, lumber derived from white pines felled in the Great lakes states was used to build the city of Chicago. Name any city west of roughly Detroit and you're looking at white pine dimension lumber from the Great lakes region, in all of the framing.
Not sure what Bruno refers to-is NH white pine inferior somehow?-white pine was the most typical wood type used for dimension sticks before the timber industry moved west into Doug. fir country.
tom
Depends on grade and load. EWP like Norway throws a whorl of branches each year so every 2-3 feet if you take a section cut through the tree the knot cluster radiates across the timber. It is also a lower strength species and has lower density, that gets into bending strength and connection strength. All of that applies to dimensional or heavy timber. Appropriately graded and used within its limits it is fine.
Some of us prune up the trunk as the pine-family member grows, eventually yielding first and second logs with much fewer knots. Standard practice in my plantation. And those historical trees that I was talking about in my above post.....they were not troubled by knots. They were giants with mostly clear wood. They were roughly 400 years old.
That last factoid is likely the one most contemporary folks just can't wrap their heads around.....the truly enormous dimensions of the timber that was growing here circa 1850. There's virtually nothing like it left.
tom
That's a different resource than most of us have access to though. I've pruned my EWP butt logs but it takes about 40 years or more of growth afterwards to make that worthwhile, I'm looking at them pretty hard now so that would make that kind of wasted effort. That is my poor timing though. I do saw out a Select Structural white pine board now and then, straight grain, few if any widely scattered very small knots but more often the grade is lower. To compare a SS EWP has a design bending strength of 1250 psi, a #2 575 psi
Lawg Dawg's Dense SS SYP is 2,050-3050 psi depending on width with #2 common at ~1000psi. That is a whole nuther class of framing material, I wish we had SYP here also.
I was well-aware that SYP had greater modulus of elasticity than does EWP. The purpose of my post was to refute any suggestion that EWP was inherently unsuited for framing. Nothing could be further from the truth, and depending on where you live, it may well be the case that EWP studs are holding up the walls of your home. They are all over this country!
tom
Quote from: Kwill on April 11, 2019, 12:54:32 PM
My homemade bandsaw sawmill sawing cedar - YouTube (https://youtu.be/sGruvASszJA)
I knew you wouldn't give up on it!
Going to be a few days yet
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And things were just starting to dry up good
I cut framing lumber from WP but it does take a lot of turning to get it. If you don't turn the log that's when you get the spike knots running across the board. it makes nice paneling but not strong
I finished out my road trip week and now have the weekend off.....to rest and relax.
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Even though this 34" (both ends) Red Oak had some flutes, it still made a 12X12, two 6X12's, two 4X8's, two 4X6's and a couple of 1X8's. I did have to use the log turner and clamp in tandem to make the first two 90° turns, but I did not have to Bibby. ;D
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A bearing seized in a blade guide so I replaced it with a spare "used" one that I keep on hand. I have two new blade guides and also a rebuild kit but it was simpler to do this rather than take the time to replace the bearings. Since this old guide was the same size as the other, no alignment was necessary as would have been the case if I had replaced them both with new guides. I did this in ~15 minutes so no lost sawing time.
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An example of the not so elusive "Nail" tree. Had this not been splintered out I would have sawn into it. There is another spike completely underneath the bark on the far left of the picture. I am sure that there are others and this is a 25' log with a 34"+ butt. :-\
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The sawing site as I left it this afternoon with the "Nail" log first up for Monday morning. There is not but about a dozen logs left so the customer will be logging while I am sawing Monday. ::)
Quote from: Bruno of NH on April 12, 2019, 06:49:08 AM
Nice logs Dawg,
I wish we had SYP
You can make framing lumber and boards from it.
Our white pine only beams for timber framing and boards.
I am afraid to ask Bruno, Why can you not framing lumber from EWP?
In my area it's frowned upon.
Everyone wants hemlock .
I can never find good hemlock.
I would build with pine it wouldn't bother me.
My home I built 13 years ago,the walls and roof are all framed with native hemlock, kiln dried and sized.
Ah, enjoy the week off! It's amazing how hanging on to that one used part can save the day....
Weekend. I will make the 230 mile drive back to the sawing site tomorrow evening. move_it
I replenished everything this morning; Diesel, saw blades, chainsaw gas & oil, clothes washed, so I can relax this afternoon and evening.
Oops, sorry about the mixup, enjoy the time you have. I'm not going to be able to work on the well today. I woke up this morning with a sore throat and as the day goes on the worse I feel.
I did finally (I hope) catch up on the texts, emails, and phone calls from potential customers that came in this past week while I was sawing. :P
Quote from: Magicman on April 13, 2019, 01:56:40 PM
I will make the 230 mile drive back to the sawing site tomorrow evening. move_it
I replenished everything this morning; Diesel, saw blades, chainsaw gas & oil, clothes washed, so I can relax this afternoon and evening.
You are one hardworking sawyer Mr. MM!
Hats off!
8)
Thanks. :)
MM, how do you deal with all that sand? Do your blades dull quickly from the sand in the bark?
MM I think you should change your handle to Iron Man I am 70 and not in to bad of shape but I don't think I could handle your schedule and be away from home for a week at a time I am sure it would do me in . I salute you Sir. Randy
Cutterboy: Nothing but sand, and some of the logs are totally covered. Even with the Debarker, we wire brush every cut that passes through the bark, front and backside. We have probably gone through a dozen wire brushes. Matter of fact, after this "sand job" is over I'll take a picture of all of the brushes. ;D I am using only one or two blades per day but they are being saved by the brushes.
The 4th picture in Reply #290 shows total sand and dump truck loads in the background ready to be spread and compacted.
randy d: Thank You but this job will not go on forever because the customer should run out of logs within two more weeks. We will have sawn the timbers for ~20 units by then but he is building 70!! He is thinking about trying to buy log truck loads of logs but I have no idea where we would set up. The family has timbered property about 100 miles closer to home, but someone would have to do the logging. They would easily realize a value increase of 2X or more by utilizing their own trees.
Time will tell but until it runs out, dis old geezer wheeliechair is gonna saw. 8)
Magicman - what do you want to bet they will log their own land, haul the logs to the sand pit, roll them around, and then have you saw them? :D
Southside, you were doing very well with your bet until the first comma. :-X
Yes, the economics are there to log their property and I am hoping that will be their decision. There is no suitable lodging but there is a State Park Campground within ~20 miles and I have an RV 5th wheel. He will have to find a resolution fairly quickly because the framers are steadily raising buildings and he will need timbers.
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This picture was made Wednesday. When I left Friday evening the three buildings on the left were all framed up two story and one had rafters. There will be a lake between the Condos and where I am standing.
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My sawmill is presently set up in the very top left corner and I am looking diagonally across what will become the lake.
Picked up some hemlock and pine. I haven't milled anything since last fall. Kind of anxious to get busy making some lumber.
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Lynn, did you consider trying the carbide blades for this job? I know after Mt. St. Hellen's erupted, they used carbide chains on the saws attempting to salvage some of the timber that was blown over and covered in ash.
Yup, I saw the results of that St. Helen's mess several years ago. There is no way to describe the amount of damage that was done.
No, I am satisfied with what we are doing and many days I am only using one blade. My tailgunner and I have a pretty good brushing system worked out to eliminate most lost time. That plus the new blade on the Debarker is doing a good job.
I made the drive this afternoon and after a meal of Eggs, Grits, and Toast for Supper, I am ready for tomorrow. ;D
Some SYP 1X10X12' ...Orders never quit coming here...these are some nice and clear ones I cut off my own property for a HIGH $$ Client ;D. Keeps them coming back for more!
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Yes the stickers are spread out but they going to put them up this week for board and batton on a hunting lodge...this is the first 1000 ft..only 5000 more to go! 8)
In today's market that is a smart way to add value to your logs. That SYP rocks.
Lawg Dawg, you're in a honey hole 8)
That is some amazing SYP Lawg Dawg.
That's some nice Pine.
Dawg - send me some of that - please!!! Would you take a steer in trade? :D
Sweet boards Dawg
Had my first real life paying job for myself and the mill this weekend! 8) Had a fantastic day sawing Highly Valuable Knotty Junk Walnut, Pin Oak, Poplar and a couple small hickory sticks. Ended the day with about 790 bd ft! I've only ever cut with 4 degree bands from Woodmizer, I bought 2 turbo 7s for this job and all I have to say is WOW! Ran the 4 degree band first, got about 300 bd ft out of it then switched to the turbo 7 and finished out the job. Those things are FAST and put out some dead flat lumber! :o Averaged out to about 150 bd ft / hr including set up and take down on a beautiful day!
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And just Magicman, I sawed um and leaved um! 8)
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MM why not power wash? Wire brush seems like a lot of elbow grease and time. I sawed the pine I have and the bark fell off easy, now I'm into the oak, and the place is a muddy mess, so I tried washing with the hose, as this bark is stuck on good! That works great, or seems to so far anyway.
Dana, that would be a simple answer if I was at home, had a pressure washer, and was within less than ¼ mile of a water source. :D
DWyatt -- Congrats on your first paying saw job. it's a great feeling when you've produced a nice whack of boards and have a check in hand!
MM - someone left a nice "level" on top of that new condo sign!!!!!
Quote from: Magicman on April 15, 2019, 08:11:49 AM
Dana, that would be a simple answer if I was at home, had a pressure washer, and was within less than ¼ mile of a water source. :D
Tell them to get going on that pond!! ;D I wasn't sure if I was missing something. I thought the availability of water under pressure could have been the issue.
Yup Lance, I took the picture while the sign was being built. All of the trim is now painted black and the level is gone. Actually it has been moved from the original location.
Yup Dana, this situation is what it is and I decided to accept it as it was last year when I took the job. I had to develop a different technique for bucking them to length to stop killing saw chains.
I have talked about having to share the loader with the builders. Well that came to an end today. Ain't sharing it anymore because they now have it full time :-X I ended up with a skidsteer with a bucket, not even forks. Well this ain't this old man's first rodeo.
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Two "Magic Hooks" and chain and we can handle logs just fine...thank you. ::)
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12X12's too. It's slower and much more work but we are getting it done. ;D
They will start dropping more trees tomorrow.
better than nothing!? is it roe day oooo or ro dee ooo? :D
Some mighty lumber there. I am drooling.
Quote from: Lawg Dawg on April 14, 2019, 08:38:09 PM
Some SYP 1X10X12' ...Orders never quit coming here...these are some nice and clear ones I cut off my own property for a HIGH $$ Client ;D. Keeps them coming back for more!
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Yes the stickers are spread out but they going to put them up this week for board and batton on a hunting lodge...this is the first 1000 ft..only 5000 more to go! 8)
Doc, more like EIEIO !! 8)
Boy they take your loader AND they make you saw sweet gum. It's a good thing they pay well!! :D
Just a word of caution on the chain and hooks, be aware that the chain can slide if the load becomes unbalanced for any reason. Stay well clear while it is suspended.
Contrary to my earlier post we sawed mornings on Thursday in the cold then Saturday with nice balmy temps.
All 2x6x16, hemlock, side lumber into 3" battens 4 hr mornings and got 50 2x6s done each time as well as about 35 battens.
projected bf in 8 hr day 1720.
I dont dawdle when sawing with a tail man and a log deck well stocked, and still cant fathom the claimed bf per day by some of you guys.
I keep the feed speed well against the governor with the 51 hp Perkapillar.
Managed to do the dreaded hitting the side support Saturday which slowed us down some.
First time doing this in a couple of years.
Regarding EWP once it gets sizeable, there are no knots to contend with.
My adk camp has 2x6x18 rafters on 12 -12 pitch.
Gets up to 4 ft of snow that doesnt clear now that the galvanized roof has oxidized until we heat it up.
No problems so far.
Sounds like a good day's sawing to me Pete. :)
Quote from: LeeB on April 16, 2019, 12:25:14 AMbe aware that the chain can slide if the load becomes unbalanced for any reason.
Can, will, and did Lee. Not off, but back against the hinge which let it drop down a foot or so. Yes, without hooks welded to the bucket, it is an iffy situation. The operator is constantly adjusting and leveling the bucket as he raises and lower the load. :o
All in a day'$ work Southside....all in a day's work. ;)
before and after of beam laminated with pin oak (pseudo maple :D) buddy Gabe, RN, past airforce medic.
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boy has got some skills, wife happy!
Milling one more 2x6 and 3 2x4 out of this log. Then just need 4 more 2x4 to finish the roof on the sawmill shed.
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Lynn, I hunted with a man some years ago that had a beagle that ran too fast, so they would fasten a short piece of log chain to his collar. Maybe you just workin too fast. Banjo
:D I already gots da log chain. I'll have some pictures for tonight.
Quote from: Kwill on April 16, 2019, 12:52:49 PM
Milling one more 2x6 and 3 2x4 out of this log. Then just need 4 more 2x4 to finish the roof on the sawmill shed.
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Kwill, What did you do to your mill to get it running right. Did you threaten it with the sledge hammer?
4/4 hickory yesterday and some black walnut dropped off to be milled 8/4 today in exchange for some banjo pickin.
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WillBilly, I see you have a trailer under your mill! Have you got a pic of it? I have the same mill and am planning on building a trailer for it soon. Looking to see what others have done.
Quote from: Raym on March 13, 2019, 06:02:45 AM
Gonna be Sawing.....
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Started a new build for the builder I occasionally work for. Started clearing Monday so I went by and marked some poplar that I want delivered. I'm guessing about 3000 bf. I don't know why but I marked a couple of hickory to add to the load (they are still standing). I was tempted to mark more to bring but I'm afraid of my wife. :D I already have to figure out how to get these here without her knowing.
Most of you may know that my sawmill doesn't get too see much action because of the amount of other work but I really get frustrated driving past my mill to go buy lumber for different jobs that need to be done.
So as soon as these show up, "I promise" no work gets done until these are sawn and stickered. I do use a lot of poplar so should be about a years supply.....
Well I broke my promise but after being delayed because of being sick and distracted by fishing, I finally got into this poplar.
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Got a picture of some logs for Dana to pressure wash for me. ;D
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I did have some different log handling equipment first this morning.
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A John Deere track hoe showed up and moved some logs for us and then proceeded to fall and move trees.
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Still standing but it won't be for long.
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It didn't stand a chance. ;D
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And now he thinks that the Deere is a skidder.
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Ready for me to buck and saw which I did. One 8X8 and two 12X12's.
We should make good headway on the "sandy" logs in the first picture tomorrow.
MM Reminds me of the line in Jaws when he thinks were gonna need a bigger boat. "Oh crap I think your gonna need a bigger wire brush"
It's got to be a rewarding feeling to see that lumber being built into homes as fast as you cut it! That looks like a good gig, dirty logs and all!
Quote from: Dana Stanley on April 16, 2019, 06:33:15 PM
WillBilly, I see you have a trailer under your mill! Have you got a pic of it? I have the same mill and am planning on building a trailer for it soon. Looking to see what others have done.
I do! I bought it off Facebook marketplace for $150 bucks knowing it would need work. I wirebrushed it and painted it with two coats of rustoleum brushed on, replaced the tongue and added a light kit. I bought a set of used tires/wheels off a friend and welded jacks in each corner. The trailer had been lined with a 1/4" angle steel on each side to add strength, I have no idea what the trailer was used for before. It's very narrow, so perfect for the mill.
Now that I have it all setup, I honestly don't plan to move the mill much but am very appreciative of the rigid frame. It doesn't heave/thaw like the ground would if I was to install it on blocks. I just had to level and square it to the frame carefully. I used a laser level as well as strings crossed to ensure it was true.
I plan to remove the axles but use one of them for a log-dolly project. If I want to move the mill, I can simply hoist the head off the tracks and then lift the trailer frame with the mill tracks up with my tractor to place on a larger trailer I have.
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Got home from work around 5:15 yesterday, and had a customer stop by at 5:30 with two walnut logs, one straight 6' section and another with two crotches that had been mutilated by a chainsaw on one end. It was a little challenging to get anything out of but the customer was quite pleased. The straight log was easy, but I hit a nail about 4 inches from the pith and it dulled the blade. I was able to finish the remaining three 8/4 cuts with the dulled blade.
One thing I found is that loading the logs onto my mill with the forks is not as easy as loading them with my two sets of lifting tongs attached to the forks. Visibility was my issue. With the tongs I can clearly see the mill tracks and the log as I rest the log down.
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We moved some very valuable norway maple logs up to the mill bunks this morning.
Not sure how to cut some of these snakes.
Jim Rogers
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It never ceases to amaze me of what people think are good logs to mill.
At least they left all studs on 'em so you get to use your chainsaw.
Quote from: btulloh on April 17, 2019, 01:33:09 PM
At least they left all studs on 'em so you get to use your chainsaw.
I just spent 23 minutes sawing the first bunch off.
Quote from: doc henderson on April 16, 2019, 11:30:05 AM
before and after of beam laminated with pin oak (pseudo maple :D) buddy Gabe, RN, past airforce medic.
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boy has got some skills, wife happy!
Very nice,,,,tasty ! :)
Two lumps to go and we are finished with the burls.
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Nice looking bunch of firewood Rob. TIC
In regard to my hitting the rear side support, I checked it today and it is about a 16th of an inch higher that the front one.
Go figure. I should have just lowered them a bit more.
BTW the blade was a several times sharpened one so no big loss.
I would call that a whack of burl slabs Rob. :o
Pete, I think that I would adjust that rear side support. ;)
It was the same old thing for me today. Red clay sand is only one step away from cement. :-\
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I sawed "Dana's" log today. :-X
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Just cleared a trail through the sand and sawed away. ;D
Blade killer...yikes.
Wow MM
That's some sand.
Sand is hard on bands
I get some when the tree company drops logs in the back sand pit.
It sticks right on the logs
That red stuff looks tough
I have someone stopping at 9:00 this morning to look at the mill and saw some logs.
The last burl on the mill this morning with AJ setting up.We took advantage of the WM mill extension sale last month and added a section, a good move. If folks wonder why I'm not in the milling photos, it's because I'm in the shop grinding away on table tops. I'd rather be outside ! ;D
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Tule Peak,
Looks like another fabulous table in the works. I really like your UL Approved power drops! :-X ;) :D
Seeing your tables always leaves me looking like this: :o :o Beautiful work as usual. Simply amazing to me.
Thanks. After the umpteenth table , working on the sawmill looks mighty good !
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I had a guy interested in buying the mill come over and work with us today.
I was just going to show him how the mill worked.
He stayed 6 hours and ran the mill for half that time.
His name is Tom ,he's coming back tomorrow for more milling.
I didn't get any pictures
I will tomorrow.
Cool and damp I'm starting the wood stove
Good news on the mill! What is the target date for the new one?
Mid to high 80's here today and yesterday, severe storms moving in, possibly tornadoes tomorrow, back down into the 40's after that, probably will be starting the wood stove as well.
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I bucked these to length for today's sawing and got 5 done when the seal in the log turner hydraulic cylinder gave way and the claw would not stay down. Kept creeping up. Since I was coming home today anyway, I brought the cylinder with me and I will pick it up from the hydraulic shop tomorrow afternoon. After 19 years I guess that it was time for a rebuild.
How many other pieces of equipment last that long? Good luck getting it fixed and back in operation first thing next week.
I use to have a repair shop here in town rebuild mine untill I got a quote on fixing one once and then he just about doubled the price when I picked it up. I do my own now, and its not rocket science. Most seal kits are only $25 or $30 bucks and if you got the cylinder off thats the hard part. You just have to have the parts book that shows how the seals go in, you can put them in backwards. The hardest one I ever done was on the Prentice 210 C. I had to make a wrench to take the nut off. But I got it now. ;) Banjo
I normally rebuild mine too, matter of fact I just rebuilt my log clamp up/down cylinder in February. Other than the toe board cylinders this is the last one. Circumstances dictated a shop rebuild on this one because if everything goes as planned, I will be sawing Monday.
It will be a full sawing week, but there is a possibility that I may finally finish sawing at this location. The customer will need many more timbers, but he does not know where the logs will come from yet. He is looking for a few acres of timbered property to buy. Time will tell.
Lynn , I thought about you today. I saw a guy at the parts house, and he told me about some white oak logs that had been taken down that were for sale just down the road from my place. Deb and I drove over there and did a drive by.....the logs were about as dirty as the ones you are working on. I didn't even stop. Banjo
Sent some lumber home this week
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Built a table this week
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Me, Rob, and Pete!
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And got a call from Clemson Extension today...may be doing a sawmill demo for them in June!
Very nice tables.
Nice lumber whack and table/bench, LD.
I understand that there was a party of three shady characters on the loose in the Rentz vicinity. The last report was that they split up and went three different directions. Authorities are following a sawdust trail. smiley_roller
Quote from: Magicman on April 18, 2019, 08:33:52 PMthe seal in the log turner hydraulic cylinder gave way and the claw would not stay down
The hydraulic shop called this morning and my cylinder was ready.
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$130 and maybe it is good for another 21 years. The shop guy said that the piston seal was a total wreck.
Lawg Dawg, That wack of lumber sure does look nice sitting up on that trailer. Also, I love your table. The natural finish top sitting on white legs is a good combination.
Some Norway maple:
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at least that what he said it was.
Jim Rogers
Quote from: Lawg Dawg on April 18, 2019, 11:13:12 PM
Sent some lumber home this week
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Built a table this week
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Me, Rob, and Pete!
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And got a call from Clemson Extension today...may be doing a sawmill demo for them in June!
Nice lumber. Very nice tables!
Quote from: Magicman on April 19, 2019, 02:54:46 PM
Quote from: Magicman on April 18, 2019, 08:33:52 PMthe seal in the log turner hydraulic cylinder gave way and the claw would not stay down
The hydraulic shop called this morning and my cylinder was ready.
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$130 and maybe it is good for another 21 years. The shop guy said that the piston seal was a total wreck.
One thirty seems like a fair price.
I thought so too. $46 retail for the kit and one hour shop time @ $80 labor plus tax. The seal kit from Wood-Mizer would have been $18.32 plus shipping plus tax. I was very satisfied.
Quote from: Jim_Rogers on April 19, 2019, 04:31:00 PM
Some Norway maple:
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at least that what he said it was.
Jim Rogers
Jim,
I'm the dumbest guy on this site, but I don't think that's Norway Maple; at least not the one's I've seen.... I look forward to folks on this site expanding my knowledge....
If those are the same logs from post #340, then I'd say it's Norway. Just looking at the lumber ,the bark does look a lot like ash.
Just sawing up some cedar today. Making 2x6 and 2x4.
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Kwill, did you ever figure out why you were getting dives/having issues? Glad to see you didn't just scrap it. I have an LT15 Woodmizer and I'm glad I don't have many issues with it. Frustrating when you have sawing you want to do but have to trouble shoot a nagging problem.
Quote from: Brad_bb on April 19, 2019, 09:15:13 PM
Kwill, did you ever figure out why you were getting dives/having issues? Glad to see you didn't just scrap it. I have an LT15 Woodmizer and I'm glad I don't have many issues with it. Frustrating when you have sawing you want to do but have to trouble shoot a nagging problem.
My track had a dip in it. I installed a lube tank and a new woodmizer 7 degree blade ( which the guy at woodmizer said my 13hp engine wouldnt pull) and it cut nice and straight now. I was pretty upset that day cause i needed it to work and it didnt. I sat down and took hard look at it and figured it out. I got the lumber milled out to finish the roof on the mill shed and got it done.
Great job on the building!!!
I ran ripper 37's in 7° on a 13hp no problem
Regular 7° should be a piece of cake
Here's what I didn't saw yesterday.
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Sawed an ash log today. 8 cuts, 3-1/2" slabs. About 52" wide and 8 ft long. Over a inch of rain, customer had it set up in a large building when I arrived, so I didn't get wet.
Took me from about 7:30 am to 2:30 pm start to finish. Wife helped me set up and pack up. Ben Franklin is her favorite president. I am getting too old for this but it was rewarding nonetheless.
The wood was beautiful, partially spalted, curly & other figure. Mill was cutting good. Customer very happy.
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Oh wow, indeed you did!!! 8)
I am not sure I would have been brave enough to open up that log seeing all those presents waiting.
Ben Franklin was the first post master, but never a president. :) Still, one of my favorite portraits on cotton paper. :D
Hey.... I recognize that log ! (post 379)
customer wanted a 20' bar top so I had a 6" thick 2nd growth fir slab I had milled year ago for mantel stock. So I split it down the middle at 3" thick with a new blade and 18" from the end the worst sound a band mill can make.
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What was it you hit?
Pretty slab. What was that?
Any chance they want a shorter bar top with a story about an old ceramic insulator? >:(
It was a ceramic insulator, guessing by the growth rings it was in the 1920s era.
There were no signs that it was in there other than after looking at it after the hit up close I did see some wire ends with the old time jacket. Should have paid more attention too it when I originally milled the 6" slab.
I think the length is still going to work for customer but they will have too keep the grey stain.
The wood is a Douglas fir, heavy with large knots 2" n better.
Luckily I was able to get the blade sharpened back too normal.
Wow - you did get lucky, last one I hit absolutely destroyed the band, in the process of cutting off the slab I managed to set the chainsaw directly over and into the same insulator, which then destroyed the chain as well...was not a good day.
Oak Harbor....That's where I was fabricated.....
2 and 3 inch cedar slabs off my ole rattley banging mill
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Pretty wood, they belong in my showroom... :)
Kwill, that homemade bandsaw is printing money with those slabs. You have a couple SGU's on display right there.
Quote from: caveman on April 21, 2019, 09:47:01 PM
Kwill, that homemade bandsaw is printing money with those slabs. You have a couple SGU's on display right there.
Not got many calls on them
Charcuterie boards from last weeks left overs and trim. $ from waste wood.
Caveman I hope you see this as you have a fortune in the Disney train wood should you develop them into charcuterie (cheese) boards !
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Just some Red Pine
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264 bord feet whin I got done
And one strange cloud
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I made the 230 mile back to my sawing job sand pile this afternoon.
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The first order of business was to reinstall the rebuilt hydraulic cylinder on the log turner.
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And then replace the tired spring on my Debarker.
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The trackhoe was busy digging up and bringing more logs to the sawmill today. I measured one at 32"+ six feet from the butt. :o
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A ~24" Red Oak ready to be brought to the sawmill and another standing just behind the "Deere".
The rest of this week will be busy. I am hoping that they got the forks on the skidsteer, 'cause I am going to need a loader.
I have been thinking a lot about our discussion at the project, Rob. My mother even had a cheese board out on the table for Easter supper last night. I have a lot of irons in the fire at the moment and would really like to be sawing or making something (especially $$$). We have not even started the mill up since the weekend before we headed to Jake's.
I don't miss much that is written on the sections of the forum that I frequent even though I do not post a lot.
MagicMan, by the time you get done with that project they might have to reforest Mississippi. I look forward to seeing your pictures and reading your posts.
well we are here to help.
Sawed some 8x8×20' syp today
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Sawed about 1 SGU of W.O. 1 1/2" x 6" x 16'
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My help didn't show up this afternoon, so I rigged my youngest son up with a plastic worm and he went fishing
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After all this I came back to my barn this evening and took a picture of the ceiling
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ALL in A DAYS WORK! WATCHA SAWIN?!
Your son looks like me at his age :)
Not sure what exactly this log is, when the customer sent me pics and asked if I would slice slabs on shares I thought it was walnut and said sure bring it over. Anyway this was a limb that was a good 30" diameter.
The trunk was huge and heavy a good 50" diameter. Yet to mill it.
My 10k lift had to have rpms just too unload it.
Iam thinking it's Black Oak.
What do you all think it is? 
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The buds on the shoots coming off the trunk do indicate oak.
Looks very much like the black oak I've sawn.
Starting on my framing lumber run for my new shop. logged a few nice pines off the farm:
Logs got too big for the loader to pick up anymore..
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Notice how far off the pith is in this log. It was leaning about 20 degrees but looked like it had always been that way - straight as an arrow just 20 degrees from straight up. Boards probably end up all over the place. You can also see the excessive breakout from how much it was leaning - front cut pinched quick and backcut gave up too soon. That plug was probably 50" deep including the splits and ruined about 7 boards.
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Rarely do I get a heart cut in the first slab cut..
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Milling up some pine framing lumber for the Curved-wood project (sorry not enough hemlock or spruce)
Some poplar live edge and square edge for inventory. I have no problem selling poplar.
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Built this today out of lumber off our farm and cut with my homemade bandsaw mill. This is at my dad's house. It's a shed for him to his trailer under out of the weather . All built out of cedar. Got the perlin boards on and it started raining. Just have the tin left to put on
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Bruno its good to see poplar not going to waste, I think people sometimes dont realize some of the uses it can have and often gets wasted. Its a good wood for wood carving and is as good as you can get for barn floors with horses, strong enough to put up with the abuse yet doesn't splinter. Keep up the good sawing everyone!
@redbeard (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=12539),
Took another look at your pic and a few of the buds on the shoots look like they are opposite each other. If they are, then that would rule in favor of big leaf maple instead of oak. Any of those stem shoots left to get a close look to see if they are opposite each other on the stem?
Kwill, our glaciated members are gonna have a hard time figuring the snow load capability of that shed. ;D
I was back to sawing my sandy job this morning.
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Thankfully they did get forks put on the skid-steer.
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Loading a couple of logs onto the "log truck" to bring to the sawmill.
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And he dumped them!! Yup, dumped is about all that I can say. Those are two 22' logs and part of what I will saw tomorrow.
Quote from: Magicman on April 23, 2019, 08:59:05 PMKwill, our glaciated members are gonna have a hard time figuring the snow load capability of that shed. ;D
Naw, just trying to figure out how he's gonna get the trailer over those 2x8's (or 2x10's)... :D
Kwill, are you going to pour a slab or lay some gravel for the trailer?
@Rob in NC (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=31551) on that leaner, for future reference, a bore cut and open face notch work very well to keep from getting fiber pull like that, also eliminates closing of the notch too soon and premature hinge breakage.
Quote from: ljohnsaw on April 23, 2019, 09:12:36 PM
Quote from: Magicman on April 23, 2019, 08:59:05 PMKwill, our glaciated members are gonna have a hard time figuring the snow load capability of that shed. ;D
Naw, just trying to figure out how he's gonna get the trailer over those 2x8's (or 2x10's)... :D
Kwill, are you going to pour a slab or lay some gravel for the trailer?
The 2x8 was forms to get things square. They are coming off
Quote from: Magicman on April 23, 2019, 08:59:05 PM
Kwill, our glaciated members are gonna have a hard time figuring the snow load capability
yeah. Some seem to think everything needs to be built like you live in new england.
I was giving the roof the hairy eyeball for a minute, until I saw you are in Missouri.
Quote from: Lawg Dawg on April 22, 2019, 09:59:08 PM
Sawed some 8x8×20' syp today
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Sawed about 1 SGU of W.O. 1 1/2" x 6" x 16'
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My help didn't show up this afternoon, so I rigged my youngest son up with a plastic worm and he went fishing
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After all this I came back to my barn this evening and took a picture of the ceiling
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ALL in A DAYS WORK! WATCHA SAWIN?!
Is your wood floor sitting on the ground? I was thinking of building a wood floor for my woodmizer.
This bad boy will be first up for tomorrow's sawing.
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It's horns are over 40" wide so I will have to do some chainsaw work after I brush the sand off. ::)
As of now I have six more 24"+ logs with one being in the 34-36" class, and 4 pecker logs to saw .
He probably has ~6-8 more trees to come down, so with rain tomorrow there is no way that I can finish this week.
No sawing for me today.....rain. :-\
MM
That's some sand :D
MM,
Maybe the rain will wash all the sand off your logs and no need for brushing...
think_not
Monterrey cyprus today .A supplier called me last night offering 30000 plus BF of English walnut like the bottom picture. My wife is not happy. > >:(
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Quote from: tule peak timber on April 25, 2019, 12:11:13 PM
Monterrey cyprus today .A supplier called me last night offering 30000 plus BF of English walnut like the bottom picture. My wife is not happy. > >:(
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That's Awesome Rob...I'd have to purchase that. Also Love that California Board and Batton!
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That's what I'm cutting these logs into Board and Batton
Nice rings !!
Had a fellow woodworker and doc bring me a walnut log. The tree was dying. He had it on the back of a flatbed truck and was so crooked, it nearly was dragging the ground 8 feet behind the truck. I cut it each time it took a major bend and got 4 chunks about 4 to 5 feet long.
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for fun I cut a thin slice.
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a nice variety of slabs and boards. a bit of live edge and rustic stock. I think we can see why the tree was damaged and dying.
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lemonade from a lemon. I assume these are carpenter ants, and they responded to permethrin horse stall spray rom TSC.
Yep Doc, we keep the Permetherin spray next to the mill for when we hit a nest. Looks like you got some good thick slab pieces there. I wonder how crooked the log was and whether you could have gotten 8ft pieces that could be table tops/river tables? I've saved some thin walnut that was a by product, not intentional, that is about 1/4" thick. They've cupped quite a bit, but I'm wondering if I could steam them and glue them and use them for veneer? I wonder if you can glue a steamed/water filled piece to a dry flat board or plywood?
I have been able to fix a few thin pieces by heat and or clamping just past the point of being flat. Much of it dries more from one side than the other. When I make coasters from less than dry stuff, I get some cupping but it gets better when turned over in the heater. Just like steam bending, I think moisture and heat can help. the 1/16th inch piece looks more like art as it is very distorted and heaped up. The log was about 18 feet long. 10 feet up on the flat bed of a one ton truck and the 8 feet off the back of the truck was only about 8 inches off the ground. Not sure if that gives you and accurate visual but I was proud of what we did get. The first log we sawed was the best and milled 7/8th inch and nice clear boards about 12 inches wide and 5 feet long. the rest were a struggle. 8) He was happy and will make stuff for wife and kids. Bob is a semi retired pulmonologist. I am sure if you made a lamination with a thin piece, it would be more stable. all good ideas @Brad_bb (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=6191)
Quote from: doc henderson on April 25, 2019, 06:14:51 PMI think we can see why the tree was damaged and dying.
The Carpenter Ants had nothing to do with the tree damaged/dying. They were nesting/living in the moist decaying wood.
Had a customer bring over some nice maple too slab out.
He has a Mobile Dimension mill which makes it quick and easy too slab having a nice flat surface too set the logs on my Hud-Son 60 bed. Nice not having too flip them.
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He was milling these logs for boards but figure was showing up so he saves them for 2-1/2" thick wide slabs.
This one I really liked had some nice cheese dip inclusions.
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18" x 16 ft black locust for fence rails at a local church cemetery
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Hopefully none of the residents complain. :D
A quick log entry out for delivery today.
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Nice to see it looking a bit green in the background there. Someone making an entrance arch?
The background green is irrigated- I pump 24-7 -365. I love the forest so I'm growing my own. The log arch is for a kids cowboy ranch (summer camp) that my Granddaughter attends . A great place to help kids grow up ! I love supporting them 8) 8) 8)
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Tight fit
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I found a hole in the middle of the log bought 5 inch deep no idea from what
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The last of the biggens
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Had to do a little triming
I am finally out of the sand pit, for now anyway. No more sawing for this customer until he finds a source for more logs.
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The last log was a ~34" X 11' that did deal me some misery. I misjudged the butt end and had to back out of the cut and do some Bibbying. I did get a 12"X12" plus nine 4"x6" post/timbers out of it.
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This is some of 7 days of sawing. Most of the logs were tree length which I had to buck into 11' logs for sawing. All bucking, brushing/cleaning, sawing, and waiting for the loader was charged at my hourly rate.
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Yes, I talked about the dirty/sandy logs. Here are 16 of the many brushes that we wore out cleaning logs, plus a new carton of 24. whiteflag_smiley Hardware Supply (https://www.myhardwaresupply.com/store/p/17828-3x19-S-Grp-Crb-St-Brsh/scraper.aspx#)
I left the job site pulling the sawmill at 7:00 last evening for my 4 hour drive back home. move_it
Nothing pic worthy, but finally got to saw some this week. Couple of 8X8 porch posts, 2X6's and 1X4's all out of spruce. I will admit to dumping the very first log of the season over the backstops. I load with the tractor and forks and thought I was out from under the log that I had gently placed on the bunks. Lifted the forks and flipped the log over the back. Luckily it was a small beetle killed log that was going to be cut for stickers and I was able to man handle it back up on the mill.
Nice job MM. Maybe next time he'll set you up on something other than sand!
WLC, I came within a hair of doing that last week. Just barely balanced on the back edge of the mill and I stopped and carefully backed out.
Last week I cut some white oak (burr oak) trailer decking for a client.
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The client owns and operates a small earthwork and grading company and was looking to replace the deck on his lowboy trailer. He ordered 2 1/2" x 8" planks to replace the 24" wide areas in his deck where the tracks or tires of equipment ride. I thought about suggesting 2 1/2 x 12" planks to replace this area but after lifting and carrying the 2 1/2" x 8" planks I'm glad I kept my mouth shut.
Below is a pic of his order ready to be picked up!
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Nice, heavy looking decking boards.
Impressive job MM.
MagicSandMan, I bet you are glad to be out of the pit and glad to have some well-earned jingle in your pocket for your efforts. Are they using a chainsaw to square up the end of the big posts before building with them?
No, 4 sides with a "Skil" saw and then finishing with a hand saw.
Quote from: Magicman on April 27, 2019, 10:42:56 AM
I am finally out of the sand pit, for now anyway. No more sawing for this customer until he finds a source for more logs.
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The last log was a ~34" X 11' that did deal me some misery. I misjudged the butt end and had to back out of the cut and do some Bibbying. I did get a 12"X12" plus nine 4"x6" post/timbers out of it.
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This is some of 7 days of sawing. Most of the logs were tree length which I had to buck into 11' logs for sawing. All bucking, brushing/cleaning, sawing, and waiting for the loader was charged at my hourly rate.
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Yes, I talked about the dirty/sandy logs. Here are 16 of the many brushes that we wore out cleaning logs, plus a new carton of 24. whiteflag_smiley Hardware Supply (https://www.myhardwaresupply.com/store/p/17828-3x19-S-Grp-Crb-St-Brsh/scraper.aspx#)
I left the job site pulling the sawmill at 7:00 last evening for my 4 hour drive back home. move_it
That was a big sawing job. Hope I can work half as hard as you if I make your age.
The customer just sent me a text saying "that he is in talks right now with some folks about buying some standing timber". He has about a dozen more condos that have to be ready in August for student housing. :o
Started on this short white pine this morning. Had a call for two 6x6's which I got. Also got ten 1x16's which were very nice. All of it was knot free and pretty.
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One of three monster 12" x 14" x 16' pine beams I cut today.
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Love that big timber, Jim. 8)
224 BF 8)
Quote from: Magicman on April 27, 2019, 10:17:48 PM
No, 4 sides with a "Skil" saw and then finishing with a hand saw.
I cut crib blocks out of 6x6s similar to that. I mark and cut them with the 7-1/4" circular saw (I.e Skil saw) then finish with a small chainsaw. The initial cut is square and straight that way and the chainsaw follows it the remaining distance. I concede your way yields a squarer cut.
Hired a sawyer to do some board & batten, offbearer, kubota skidsteer (svl95), and myself helping out.
Some really nice poplar, this was 36" at butt so we had to whittle a bit with the chainsaw, the top was 31" and just fit his mill. The reason I am posting is to show the growth rings, tree was 40 something years old, 100' tall and 33" DBH. This is what good hardwood can do, worth more than pine too. 1/10 trees in this stand are rainbow poplar. Hard to set those boards in the siding pile.
In terms of sawing..not really great experience, his head was misaligned something we kept suggesting and he did nothing about. Finally did some beams and it really showed and he had to figure it out but I've got 50 boards that are either trash or need planning. Also, he had a bad batch of woodmizer blades-5 broke at welds in 1 day, not my fault and he didn't discount that time. Oh well, next time we'll use a different sawyer.
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I wonder if the bands broke because the mill was misaligned?
I have only broken one blade and it was my fault .
Five bands broken in the weld sounds like a defective batch of bands.
Quote from: Dave Shepard on April 28, 2019, 02:28:50 PM
Five bands broken in the weld sounds like a defective batch of bands.
Woodmizer was going to replace all the ones broken at the weld; but he broke another the next day and it was a different batch but it did not break on a weld. I'm skeptical re both bands and alignment. Either way, I've tailgunned enough to know when one has an issue. Oh well the good news here is that our tailgunning experience is enough for us to know when the saw is off. :D
This is an instance where I would love to know the "rest of the story". I wonder what was misaligned that was giving him trouble? Since you got trash and unplanned boards, it's obvious that he had not established his target nor how to reach it. Maybe he owned a very nice sawmill but he had not become a sawyer yet.
Guess what kind of wood ? It has spots of looks like burnt motor oil yellow sap wood and smells odd . Elm is on the trailer it has a mind of it own .
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It is persimmon.
X2 on the persimmon.
Saturday turned into a busy day, I ended up doing a small excavation job and two sawmill jobs. After opening 2 cabin sites with the excavator for my neighbor. I hooked onto the mill and headed to spirit lake for a "2 log" job. When I arrived, there were about a dozen fir logs and a fluid cut list. The customer wanted some 2x10's, 2 1/2 slabs with 1 live edge, some 1x12's and a mantle. We ended up cutting 2 mantles so his wife would have a choice.
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After 3 hours this is what we were left with
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The second sawing job was cutting down 2-6x12x8' beams down to 4x10's that will be used to replace some rotten boards in a water wheel.
After church today I fired up the excavator and started moving the mountain to give us more parking. The dirt is going just around the corner and is making an area for the sawmill. Any of the usable trees that get in the way will end up on the sawmill.
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That is making good use of your sawmilling skills/time as well as getting-r-done with the excavator. Well done. :)
Monday morning walnut
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Quote from: tule peak timber on April 25, 2019, 12:11:13 PMA supplier called me last night offering 30000 plus BF of English walnut like the bottom picture. My wife is not happy.
Is that some of your "doghouse" Walnut? ???
Another stack of red oak blocks for hauling heavy equipment on trailers.
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Working on two more trailer decks also.
Jim Rogers
Quote from: Magicman on April 29, 2019, 02:35:36 PM
Quote from: tule peak timber on April 25, 2019, 12:11:13 PMA supplier called me last night offering 30000 plus BF of English walnut like the bottom picture. My wife is not happy.
Is that some of your "doghouse" Walnut? ???
Yes sir.....Started coming in this morning. I'm trying to throw her off the trail by cutting some alder this afternoon. Nice spalted stuff that I'm going to build doors with.
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Did you mention "doghouse ???
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A keen sniff will expose that ploy. I am betting that you.... running-doggy
After doing a few walnut, I got to mill a honey locust today. I only had 2 HL logs. The other one I will slab with the CSM. Pics never do the grain or color justice. 10.5x12 x10' cant. Not sure what I'll do with it yet. Heavy 4" thick stair treads? Braces? or a short beam? I can resize it when I get a cut list.
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Quote from: tule peak timber on April 29, 2019, 04:30:32 PM
Quote from: Magicman on April 29, 2019, 02:35:36 PM
Quote from: tule peak timber on April 25, 2019, 12:11:13 PMA supplier called me last night offering 30000 plus BF of English walnut like the bottom picture. My wife is not happy.
Is that some of your "doghouse" Walnut? ???
Yes sir.....Started coming in this morning. I'm trying to throw her off the trail by cutting some alder this afternoon. Nice spalted stuff that I'm going to build doors with.
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Did you mention "doghouse ???
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Tule Peak,
That looks like a "Three Dog Night", except I can't believe it's that cold outside- let alone with a fire blazin' inside.
I really enjoy your posts.
Steve
There are 5 mutts in the pic...me included :D
Another road trip last Friday. Repeat customer. Variety of species and milling. Fun job.
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Lance,
Was that the smiley_devil?
Brad bb, I like honeylocust wood grain too. I had an idea to make a bass guitar body out of it, but never got around to it. I think it would have been great! Real nice color and grain in that wood, and quite dense.
tom
A little over 600 BF of bug bit ponderosa--- still fight'in snow and mud over in my cut section--- I know it will dry up by fall.
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Been wondering where you were Dave so it's good to see you sawing something. You gotta project in mind?
Its headed north to the big city Lynn.
Its been tuff get'in started this year--- it dries up just enough to make some dust, and then puts down more snow. Last night we got 8" of snow--- and the temp went up to 55* today--- noth'in but mud now. My cut area is a mess--- about 3 weeks after you and Marty pulled out, it got dumped on with around 3 1/2 feet of snow---
I have some Box Elder logs come'in in at the end of the week--- never milled any--- we'll see how it does.
I hope that the Box Elder has some knots/limbs and shows some color. 8)
I've been away for a while. Was sick with vertigo for a couple of weeks, then mashed two fingers pretty bad, couldn't type or sawmill.
THEN the Doc decided it was time to go on an extended vacation. We traveled the Southwest US for five weeks! It was an awesome trip and her retirement celebration. We spent most of our time in NM, AZ, CO, Utah, and CA with a one nighter in Las Vegas. We got home Friday.
Today was my first day at the sawmill in two months. I have orders for WO trailer decking. The first log was an exercise in perseverance. Turned out to be full of metal. I still salvaged 8 2x8x10 after two blades and some digging and chainsaw work. The guy that brought these logs wants me to take another load from the same site. He can cut them for firewood.
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Ouch, that is a horrible way to get your sawing cranked back up. :-X
Congrats on her retirement trip, and welcome back. :)
It was a "constellation" of nails!
Good to hear from you Ted. I think the same guy brought me some red oak the other day as it had the same size nails in just about the same pattern.
Got a call at work today from a repeat customer that needed a few boards cut, but I didn't have any logs long enough. So after work I tipped over one of the Western Larch that was in the background of the excavator picture I posted the other day. Second cut and I found these
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Kinda neat because I hit them dead center and now have bookmatched 1x8 with lead shot in both.
Quote from: Crossroads on April 30, 2019, 11:45:36 PM
Got a call at work today from a repeat customer that needed a few boards cut, but I didn't have any logs long enough. So after work I tipped over one of the Western Larch that was in the background of the excavator picture I posted the other day. Second cut and I found these
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Kinda neat because I hit them dead center and now have bookmatched 1x8 with lead shot in both.
That brings back a memory. I was sawing a project for a guy years ago and had a lodgepole on the mill. The first cut I pulled the slab off and noticed this gray patch near the butt end. I went down and found what you did, peppered with lead. They must have used that tree for setting there target for the .22 or something years ago as it was literally full of lead. No damage to the blade at all, kept on sawing.
Nice recovery and .22 bullets are a treasure to find. I sawed some bookmatched Pecan slabs for a table last year, but this is my favorite;
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I found it when while making T&G. It's on the tongue and sadly it is now hidden in a groove.
This is the second time I've found lead, the first was a 9mm slug in an oak log.
I have hit lead a few times cutting lumber from my woods, mostly bird shot and an occasional round. This is to be expected on land that has been used for hunting and target practice as long as my ancestors have lived here.
fudd-smiley
Luckily lead is a soft metal, (stain glass window makers cut it with a knife), and not as likely to damage the blade.
I found a lot of buckshot in the second or third log of some cedars. I think they were chasing the squirrels or chipmunks. IIRC, they are in several of my 1x siding that I plan to showcase in my cabin somewhere.
I didn't saw all of my customer's logs today.
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OK, I wimped out on this one. 18' of pure opportunity. :o
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It was a bit on the large size.
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And it is surprisingly solid. He will quarter it and I will go back and saw it.
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My customer shown here on the left with his two helpers. I know, limbs ain't logs and I Bibbyed those knots off before I loaded that "log". I sawed a bit over 1Mbf which included the Pecan. smiley_devil It ended up being a good day even though the smiley_devil ruined 3 blades with nails.
Magicman, the new Wood-Mizer LX250 would saw that log. But if he quarters it and you come back I think the results will be better than slabbing it.
At ~18K pounds, whatcha gonna pick it up with?? :o
Pick it up indeed. A "Manual" mill with a log capacity of 4.5' is not really manual is it. You need some kind of equipment to do the work such as a good sized gantry not to mention getting the log to the mill. And portable is out of the question.
Quote from: Darrel on May 03, 2019, 10:38:52 PM
Pick it up indeed. A "Manual" mill with a log capacity of 4.5' is not really manual is it. You need some kind of equipment to do the work such as a good sized gantry not to mention getting the log to the mill. And portable is out of the question.
Swing blade mills. Manual, portable, and log capacity of 5-6 ft.
You don't pick up the log, you carry / wheel the mill to it and set up around it. Log weighs 18,000 lb, mill weighs maybe 800 lb. I know which is easier to move :D
Quarter sawing some old growth Douglas fir.
Quartered the big log on the Hudson 60 and finished making 1" and 2" boards on the Cooks AC 36
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The quarters are around 22" x 20"
The new Cooks AC 36 is really working out well.
Still learning but getting the operating down pretty good.
I have really put it through the tests.
It can drag back heavy stuff. It's like a truck backing up.
Quote from: Darrel on May 03, 2019, 10:38:52 PM
Pick it up indeed. A "Manual" mill with a log capacity of 4.5' is not really manual is it. You need some kind of equipment to do the work such as a good sized gantry not to mention getting the log to the mill. And portable is out of the question.
Agree with Ianab.
If there is room including level space nearby you can roll a big log easily into position using a chain, hook and your truck. I once cut one side off of a 6' diameter 12 foot beech log, then rolled it onto the flat, and then off the flat another 360 until it was out in a flat yard.
Then cut off each side to 4-1/2 ft, and then milled it into slabs. But yes a farmer with a Lull came over to pick off the slabs.
The above is "portable" as far as my operation went, but yes, usually somebody has to have a machine.
I can only imagine how much metal is potentially inside of that old gal. The customer will also need something more than his MS280 e/w a 16" bar/chain. That plus moving the quarters. :o
Lynn, even the quarters will weigh more than your mill can/should lift.
I know that he wants the log gone and wants the lumber but I kinda doubt that I will hear back from him. A 54" log needs a 30" bar which will require a 70cc minimum and preferably a 90cc chainsaw. There are very few (if any) such chainsaws floating around so we shall see.
If he can quarter it and move it to the bottom of the hill, I can saw it. ;D
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Cut some 5/4 Cherry and one small Maple for the CO-OP Extension. The students want to make some furniture. These are 6 inch wide Cherry and I left some live edge also. Used a brand new 4 degree WM blade. worked good.
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All ready for the morning,if it don't rain. 24 inch white pine. Tractor barley picked it up. I
will try to make a video showing the use of the manual log turner on this big beauty.
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Cut some 5/4 Cherry and one small Maple for the CO-OP Extension. The students want to make some furniture. These are 6 inch wide Cherry and I left some live edge also. Used a brand new 4 degree WM blade. worked good.
Nice looking sticks......
Here is a nice wack of Sitka Spruce logs down in Seldovia, Alaska waiting to be slabbed...Some legit 40" plus logs in those piles!
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Quote from: Magicman on May 04, 2019, 04:12:47 PM
I know that he wants the log gone and wants the lumber but I kinda doubt that I will hear back from him. A 54" log needs a 30" bar which will require a 70cc minimum and preferably a 90cc chainsaw. There are very few (if any) such chainsaws floating around so we shall see.
If he can quarter it and move it to the bottom of the hill, I can saw it. ;D
"Boom"
Hey AK New, great pics and we all love to hear how things are up in Alaska. I always like to put names and faces together, would you mind adding names to the pics with folks in them? Regards!
PS. or is the short beard pic you in the am, and the long beard you at the end of a long day? :D :D :D
Some guitar maker is going to get happy ! Nice logs...
Spent yesterday milling beams of various lengths and sizes, the biggest was 10x12x20' the goal was to get the fir beams cut and if we had time, start on the pile of red cedar. After 8 1/2 hours the customer asked if we could be done for the day and I said yes please I'm tired (worked 53 hrs at my day job this week) We came up one 20' log short of filling the order, but with this pile of cedar, I'll be back 😋
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Hey Doc,
I'm the short bearded guy. Pictured here with our newest addition to the family. The long bearded fellow is my buddy Pearly (worked on an oyster farm :)) who felled all of those trees.
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so are you 5 foot even with a beard, or 6 foot tall with a short beard? :D. Pearly looks like he may have some stories to tell. congrats on the new addition and nice to meet you! I recently attended the sawing project in GA and is so nice to put faces to names. Thanks
Crossroads, I can tell you 8 hours is plenty for one day with manual mill, actually 6 hours is good for me. Not sure about a hydraulic mill. After one day of milling, i need a day of rest. My buddy and i mill every other day. We work hard when we do, but that day of recovery doing other things is welcomed.
Quote from: Brad_bb on May 05, 2019, 03:02:56 PM
Crossroads, I can tell you 8 hours is plenty for one day with manual mill, actually 6 hours is good for me. Not sure about a hydraulic mill. After one day of milling, i need a day of rest. My buddy and i mill every other day. We work hard when we do, but that day of recovery doing other things is welcomed.
The hydraulics are hard on the offbearer :D if the miller can keep it moving. Now our last adventure he never made us sweat or ask for a break.
Is that some kind of a dare @nativewolf (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24089) ? :D
Quote from: Southside on May 05, 2019, 03:23:02 PM
Is that some kind of a dare @nativewolf (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24089) ? :D
If it would increase production by 20-30% than YES :D. I had a heckuva great offbearer with me, we did about 200 fence boards a day (ok, royal we) plus other lumber and he was the principal offbearer and directed the other guys. That was oak and 16' rough sawn green wo boards and slabbing will tire you out!
Typically I don't start making mental mistakes until about the 9 hour mark. As mentioned above with hydraulics, the off bearers get most of the "work load", but yesterday I was handling one end of the beams and the long side wood. My day job requires me to spend a lot of time on my feet and I had some boot problems Tuesday and Wednesday. I started rotating my boots a lunch and it helped, but the damage was done and I simply don't have time to wait for them to heal. I talk big about only running the mill and not pulling lumber, but it's just not in me to watch someone struggle and not help.....
This week, pine, lots of pine
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And SAWDUST
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Even squeaked in a little bike ride
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And started another table build
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Lang Dawg that is some mighty fine lumber. Banjo
DanG, LawgDawg. Between you and Deese, I feel like a complete slacker. I really like the table and I always think clear, tight growth ringed pine looks good.
Quote from: caveman on May 05, 2019, 10:36:28 PM
DanG, LawgDawg. Between you and Deese, I feel like a complete slacker. I really like the table and I always think clear, tight growth ringed pine looks good.
Whatcha waiting on? Did I mention I do this for a living? :D gotta hump, no choice
Yup I can look at these pics and feel good that somebody is out there sawing all these logs up and making all that beautiful furniture . All kidding aside you guys do good work.
Quote from: AK Newbie on May 05, 2019, 02:49:40 AM
Here is a nice wack of Sitka Spruce logs down in Seldovia, Alaska waiting to be slabbed...Some legit 40" plus logs in those piles!
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Be careful, those big Sitka spruce can can totally hide and heal over an 8" cannon ball. I've seen a 7" Wide band saw blade busted all to heck when it had an altrication with said cannon ball.
Had a free afternoon after a morning of turkey hunting and decided to get the mill fired up and run some poplar logs for board and batten siding...couldn't have asked for any better weather!
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That's a nice stack of pine! Good work
My job today was re-sawing reclaimed SYP timbers.
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The 18' sills and the others are floor joists.
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No surprise, the very first cut found a nail.
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Plus some mighty fine lumber.
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The last sill is loaded onto the mill. Yes it also had a nail. The final score was 5 nails and 3 blades.
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Plus this load of mostly 1" boards. This repeat customer apparently was satisfied because I got a $62 tip. :)
Looks like you found a nail!
Yes Brad, actually 5.
I should have mentioned that the diagonal lines from the top right to the bottom left on the sawn boards were not blade marks. They were within the lumber itself. :)
Also the pitch was really bad. I had the Lubemizer at either full intermittent or continuous to keep the blade clear. The mix was mostly cotton spindle lube/cleaner.
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The small logs (?) on the mill are a maple that fell across the creek yesterday right behind my mill so I cut a 66" and a 78" section and quartered them into quarter rounds for bench legs and the rest into firewood. Dragged the top to the pasture for the horse and mule and deer and none seemed to want the leaves after all. I bucked about 4' off the RO log for boards and short 8/4 E slabs for benches. I sawed the RO log and got a lot of blade marks on the boards yesterday and spent the day adjusting my mill today.
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Quarter round maple for benches. No picture of the marked up boards due to oversight.
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Bucked the firewood off this 9'9" RO and spent all afternoon figuring why it would not saw till finally found the bottom of my band was hitting a guard and knocking the set off the bottom teeth making the blade climb. Fixed that and sawed pretty little 1X6 & a 1X4 then sawed the 8/4 bench slabs off that 4/ piece. A whopping 53 bf day but learned a lot so really was a pretty productive day all said.
WV - is that cant hook bent? How did THAT happen?
too many chickens roostin on it. never hang it sideways in a coop. :D :D :D
I saw that bent cant hook too!
Glad to see the sawmill is up and running again!
I've been sawing almost daylight to dark everyday for a while now. Currently bouncing in between 2 different jobs/customers whenever extra help and support equipment is available. Today was the day for BIG syp logs. Nice ones. Bunches of them. Had to octogon them to make them fit in between the 28" blade guides. 9 more of these big logs to do tomorrow. Then piles of 14'-24" diameter logs to follow. Just a few pics...
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Octogoning those rascals. Oh, and I ran the B56's today and man...I don't think I'll ever do big syp jobs again without them.
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My customized cant hook has been discussed several times here on the FF. It broke the fall of a 1600+ bf poplar in the holler behind my house a few years ago. I left it laying on the trail on my way to cut a tree, saw another I liked better on the way and "slightly" misjudged the distance for the falling tree. The tops breaking on the way down also sent a big limb/top across my 4 wheeler and customized the front basket. Lesson learned = carefully calculate the maximum distance a tree can reach when it falls and at least double that estimate for where you stage your tools and equipment. Fortunately the bend is in line with the normal direction for use and if anything it may help grab a bite of the log being turned. Such customizing is another thing I do not recommend for the general FF public.
Man Howard. Any chance you have ever broken a crowbar? :D
Not yet but I have a bent one. :D
Broke mill....
Broke cant hook.....
Broke crowbar.....
Broke 4-wheeler.....
Hmmmmm.
Danny,
That's a low blow. >:( The crowbar is only bent and makes it easier to pull nails from around corners and the mill was running yesterday when I stopped it. ;)
If it makes you feel any better, I've broken a crowbar, and even if it doesn't, it's still broke.
Howard,
You recover nicely.
Quote from: WDH on May 08, 2019, 07:51:52 AM
Broke mill....
Broke cant hook.....
Broke crowbar.....
Broke 4-wheeler.....
Hmmmmm.
Danny:
I'm willing to wager a whole dollar he didn't do any of those modifications sitting in his lazy chair or on the sofa.
If you don't do nothing it's hard to break anything.
Concerning the 4 wheeler maybe he needs to get his eyeballs calibrated.
Gerald
WV, Pretty sure if I was your mill, or any piece of equipment you owned, I would be running at the end of the day too. Running away that is. :D
glass houses southside, glass houses!!! :D
Yeah SS - What was that saying "People who live in glass houses should wear clothes all the time" or something like that. :D
No sawing today, stuck in the finish room.
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No sawing here either.....rain, but I did pick up two sawing jobs today.
Sawmill maintenance Monday. Just a general going over.
We also loaded up with diesel, propane and gas along with a dump run today. Back at it tomorrow ;D
Quote from: doc henderson on May 08, 2019, 12:23:34 PM
glass houses southside, glass houses!!! :D
Man - you almost forget to get on an airplane to head back home from a sawing event
one time and you never live it down. :D
So this little moment in history revealed itself today. A customer brought me three short leaf pine logs to saw last fall. They were sawn and stickered to air dry. A couple weeks ago I got the boards through the kiln and today ran the lumber through the moulder to make flooring. This is an 8" board after it came out of the planer before it hit the moulder. I am happy to say the bullet survived the moulder and is still intact in the now flooring blank.
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Late Wednesday, I finished up an order of red oak planks for a trailer deck.
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This trailer had different widths between the center rails and outside rails which made it difficult to do all the same width pieces. Therefore each piece got its own color.
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This is the trailer it's going on:
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The pieces on this trailer were 3" thick.
And he chose to make the new deck 2" thick.
Jim Rogers
PS. picked up today, photo in Happy customer thread.
Solid mantles from spalted alder. For some reason this month we are doing quite a few mantles, normally a fall-winter rush. Each customer wants something different from a natural edge.
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Tule peak, what would you say is the average mantel size a customer looks for ?
MM, what's the trick to cutting those dirty logs and not changing a band after each log. I'm in a similar situation but with red clay. I use a designated band to open 4 dirty faces, then take it off and cut rest of log with a 7 turbo. Next log - repeat.Time consuming! I do scrape but no brush.
6-8 inches tall , 8 feet wide, 11 inches deep is a pretty good middle of the bell curve. The two we are cutting to dry today go around corners, over 10 feet, and both have custom machining for blind rabbiding and recessing. So both of these mantles are way not "average". Most of the mantles we sell are hollow and large. I also sell a thing I call a "melf"- part shelf , part mantle. A "melf" has artistic corbels , floats off the wall, is a small mantle-thick shelf.
I don't know that there is a secret other than removing the sand/dirt/clay from both the entrance and exit side of the log. I have a Debarker and continuously ran it, but even with a new Debarker blade, it wasn't guaranteed to cut through the thick Red Oak bark and removing all of the sand. I am quite sure that a pressure washer or even a hose with a good nozzle would have done an ample job, but there was no water source available.
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Mighty nasty. :-\
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Same log on the sawmill.
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Both sides cleaned/brushed and ready to make the first face opening.
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Sixteen "dead" brushes and a new box of 24.
I did not do any blade swapping and I generally had to change at noon. That sounds like a bunch of sawing, but it was not. Only 4 cuts per log. After the initial face opening, only the blade entrance had to be brushed. Care was taken with the log ends and if they were really bad, I chainsawed a ½" cookie off.
Your situation is different because it sounds like you are sawing lumber, not posts/beams.
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My saw chain took a beating so all of the buck lines were also brushed. I would plunge the bar/chain in and saw top to bottom sawing only half way through. Then move to the other side of the log and saw that side so that almost always the chain was exiting.
With all the sand, you would think they would have an operator that knew how the run the thing to keep some sand off the logs not push them in the sand.
He would save $$$ if he had someone with a brain.
Not just the blades going junk, But the mill will have sand all over and getting in everything.
I tip my hat to you Magicman.
A job I would never do.
The only thing that kept me motivated was the hourly rate. At the present time I have no idea what his future plans are except that he told me that he was looking for standing timber to buy.
He actually has his butt log in a jam with about 20 units sawed for and 50 more to go. Yes, if/when he calls back, I am ready to go.
Just my guess the sand will come to haunt you later in/on the mill. All the sand on the mass pads to start. I hope not. I do wish you luck.
I have given it a good hosing down each time it has come home and gave it a good work over today. Also don't think that I will ever get all of the DanG sand out of my Dang truck. :-X
Kind of like going to the beach, sand everywhere. :laugh:
MM, I do not feel like you need my advice, but an idea popped into my head. if he is having trouble sourcing trees/logs, can you source and saw them close to home and ship finished materials to site. i guess it depends on if he is having success with local (near his project) sources. i know you do not sell wood but might turn into a little more profit for you with less driving and for goodness sake's less sand.!!! 8)
Doc, the reasons for not doing that are the reasons that I only do portable sawing. Sourcing the logs and support equipment to handle both the logs and the timbers. Arranging for and scheduling transportation of the timbers, and then slab/waste disposal. Thanks but nope, I am content in my own little world.
There's all kinds of advantages to being a mobile sawing operation!
Waste disposal is a significant enigma of stationary sawing. At least for me right now.
Quote from: Crossroads on May 05, 2019, 03:58:48 PM
Typically I don't start making mental mistakes until about the 9 hour mark. As mentioned above with hydraulics, the off bearers get most of the "work load", but yesterday I was handling one end of the beams and the long side wood. My day job requires me to spend a lot of time on my feet and I had some boot problems Tuesday and Wednesday. I started rotating my boots a lunch and it helped, but the damage was done and I simply don't have time to wait for them to heal. I talk big about only running the mill and not pulling lumber, but it's just not in me to watch someone struggle and not help.....
Wouldn't rotating and wearing the left boot on the right side and the right boot on the left side make it worse :D
Sorry couldn't help myself smiley_lipsrsealed
Quote from: Magicman on May 14, 2019, 07:25:21 PM
Doc, the reasons for not doing that are the reasons that I only do portable sawing. Sourcing the logs and support equipment to handle both the logs and the timbers. Arranging for and scheduling transportation of the timbers, and then slab/waste disposal. Thanks but nope, I am content in my own little world.
So that's why I'm always broke...... :D
Quote from: SawyerTed on May 14, 2019, 07:53:57 PMThere's all kinds of advantages to being a mobile sawing operation!
I got a call today wanting sawing done that is 185 miles away. I have tried to find and pass it to another sawyer but I'm drawing a blank. At least it would be 50 miles closer than the "sand pit" job.
The sawing work is available, just gotta bite the bullet and answer the call.
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Quote from: Crossroads on May 05, 2019, 03:58:48 PM
Typically I don't start making mental mistakes until about the 9 hour mark. As mentioned above with hydraulics, the off bearers get most of the "work load", but yesterday I was handling one end of the beams and the long side wood. My day job requires me to spend a lot of time on my feet and I had some boot problems Tuesday and Wednesday. I started rotating my boots a lunch and it helped, but the damage was done and I simply don't have time to wait for them to heal. I talk big about only running the mill and not pulling lumber, but it's just not in me to watch someone struggle and not help.....
Wouldn't rotating and wearing the left boot on the right side and the right boot on the left side make it worse :D
Sorry couldn't help myself smiley_lipsrsealed
At this point I'd be willing to try just about anything. Interestingly enough, I've never had trouble with my feet, but this flat concrete is getting the best of me....
when I ran track coach Bowman joked he wanted us to order our cleats 2 sizes small, so we would run faster to get them off again. 8)
and I guess if you wind up with extra Left boots, you can turn one inside out and make a right one. :D :D :D
Quote from: Crossroads on May 15, 2019, 02:32:50 PMAt this point I'd be willing to try just about anything. Interestingly enough, I've never had trouble with my feet, but this flat concrete is getting the best of me....
Maybe counter-intuitive, how about spreading a little sawdust on the concrete to give you a padded walk way?
Quote from: ljohnsaw on May 15, 2019, 05:25:26 PM
Quote from: Crossroads on May 15, 2019, 02:32:50 PMAt this point I'd be willing to try just about anything. Interestingly enough, I've never had trouble with my feet, but this flat concrete is getting the best of me....
Maybe counter-intuitive, how about spreading a little sawdust on the concrete to give you a padded walk way?
Good idea, but the powers to be would never allow it. ☹️
Are you gellin'?? If not, give it a try. I never leave home without it. ;D
I was using some fancy pants memory foam, but they came out about 2 weeks ago in search of a solution. I'll try some gel though.
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Just trying out a new belt on the mill. A 13' Cherry log that was 20" diameter. Mostly cut into 5/4 but took 2" slab with the pith. One of my favorite species to mill, as it smells great as it is being cut.
Nice looking slabs!!!
Past 2 weeks been sawing pine and doing a little woodworking..I'm sawing 3 to 4k bf a week and sending out a custom woodwork job every week too. 8)
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All right ...you are doing it. Cranking. Just one question , does the young man in the photo have a work permit ?? :)
Quote from: tule peak timber on May 16, 2019, 09:49:03 PM
All right ...you are doing it. Cranking. Just one question , does the young man in the photo have a work permit ?? :)
Rob, you must be in California! :D
Yesterday I started a barn framing job. It has been a hustle to get it done. The customer has a building crew coming Tuesday. Still have 60 rafters to cut.
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I am off on a road trip tomorrow, 58 miles sawing mostly SYP. I didn't get pictures and am a bit apprehensive about this one. I won't be surprised if it is junk. ::)
That table is awesome LD!!!
It will be all good Lynn, even if it's not premo Wood, I have a feeling you'll make the best of it.
very nice job LD, tule in Ks kids that young are already driven tractors!!! :)
Nice looking table. The look of the"old" buildings adds alot to the look.
Thats a nice door LD. 8) I want a barn with chandeliers. :o :o :o
That Dawg has it going.
Quote from: tule peak timber on May 16, 2019, 09:49:03 PM
All right ...you are doing it. Cranking. Just one question , does the young man in the photo have a work permit ?? :)
TP,
Its okay. He's Amish, he just took his hat off for the picture. :D
Concrete apparently! First time for me. I was using my chainsaw mill to make the first slab cut in a Cherry crotch. I skimmed the top of the concrete flat apparently, but it kept on cutting. It may have slowed down a little bit, I didn't know I hit something at the time. I was out of adjustment on my chain so I didn't take another cut(needed to remove a link due to stretch to allow me to tighten the chain properly). The next day it rain hard and washed the dust away revealing the concrete chunk and I noticed it later when walking by. I took a chisel and hammer and broke the chunk and worked the pieces out. I removed a link and resharpened the chain, which seems to be ok.
Milling concrete1 - YouTube (https://youtu.be/jsdOrfX0c_4)
Quote from: WDH on May 17, 2019, 07:36:54 AM
That Dawg has it going.
Chasing that BONE! :D
Camphor wood today.We sent (donated) the smaller limbs and 200 pounds of claro walnut burl to TAV (turn around for vets) to support their program.
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Some nice white pine for a custom order
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Making some garden stakes to have on for when customers come in.
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Bruno - what do you have for a pointer and how do you like it?
I bought the lumberjack tools
30° head and made a jig to hold a Milwaukee hole shooter drill in then guide rails for the stock to line up.
Takes no time to point one.
I made 6' stakes 1.5 x 1.5
Bruno,
What size are your stakes? I make some 1"X 1" X 5' tomato stakes. I don't have a fancy pointer maker like you do so I cut them at a 45 degree angle. Yours look thicker than mine. I tried 6' stakes and people did not like them because they said they were too hard to drive up. I guess they don't have those fancy post drivers
All,
Scheduled for 0800 job start. Thunderclap at 0703 changed that and we delayed till 1100 after the storm blew over. Sure is nice to work a mile from home! Sawed about a dozen smallish 9' poplar logs into all 1X6 lumber for paneling. Then he dragged out a 5' catalpa chunk. I'd have sworn it was walnut. First catalpa I have cut. About 75 bf of 6/4 pieces edged from 6" to 16" wide. His mom plans on making a table out of it. Total for 3.4 hours on the mill was about 480 bf or about 142 bf/hr. No speed records but small wood and lumber. My helper/customer was first rate though.
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Pretty typical of the logs we cut today.
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Another load coming. Real nice tractor. This is the one we used to lift my mill head when i dropped it a couple weeks ago.
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Finished poplar stack. Includes about 140 from 2 weeks ago.
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First Catalpa on my mill. Sure looked like walnut.
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Really pretty boards from the catalpa.
We sawed 1 catalpa log in 12 years and made spectacular furniture from it . Really nice stuff !
Quote from: Crossroads on May 16, 2019, 11:39:15 PMIt will be all good Lynn, even if it's not premo Wood, I have a feeling you'll make the best of it.
And actually it was a good job after all.
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But I did not saw the two large logs on the top. They were Sweetgum and everyone knows that I hates Sweetgum. ;D
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My customer is ready to roll the first log onto the sawmill loader.
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1050 bf of an assortment of various widths of 1", plus 2X4, 6, & 8" framing lumber. We have some stormy weather forecast for this weekend so he weighted it down. The customer was happy because I got a $48 tip. :)
It was HOT today. smiley_sweat_drop
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My truck exterior thermometer before I cranked up to head home. :o
113 f where, holy cow !
It was probably 90°, so I have no idea why the truck exterior thermometer indicated 113°. The engine had not been running for over 8 hours so it wasn't that.
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Cut up a hedge log with some burl in it. Only 15x45 but still kinda cool.
YUM BACON!!!!
my truck did that on a BSA trip to camp alexander Colorado. the thermistor went bad and the wire clip was also damaged. suddenly was about 20 degrees hotter than we thought. replaced up in front of the radiator and fine since.
catalpa also smells great in a fire, like a guy 100 feet away smoking a pipe.
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Cut up a hedge log with some burl in it. Only 15x45 but still kinda cool.
Those are beautiful!!!!
I've been sawing and drying a little walnut, some kiln dried 4/4 boards 8' and 12' long, loaded and on the way to get planed, and also some 30ish" wide 9/4 live edge on the LT70 wide.
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That "Hedge" is crazy. smiley_dizzy
Very nice Robert. :o
Nice walnut 8)
Quote from: doc henderson on May 18, 2019, 12:34:34 AMcatalpa also smells great in a fire, like a guy 100 feet away smoking a pipe.
Doc,
Yeah it has a strong and distinct smell. As I remember the common name for it was Indian Tobacco. This sure had a pretty grain pattern. Real light weight wood.
A lot of pretty wood...
Had an opportunity (some may say liability :D) to get cedar phone poles. They have creasote on one end, but that works great for the new saw shed. A lot of copper grounding wire and staples, but cleaned up fairly easy and quick. Not much cedar around these parts, so beggers can't be choosers.
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Still arranging the yard for logs and such.
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We're very careful when cutting these using necessary PPE, masks and such, but they sure are straight.
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They're making great 6x6x17' posts for the new shed.
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A good find! The poles I've cut from around here are real blade killers from the embedded sand. Good building material though.
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Very nice and also a good illustration of the depth of preservative penetration on the butts. Folks whack utility poles into fence posts, etc, and wonder why they don't last. ???
Note: A slightly better description for the poles would be "utility" poles because all poles aren't "phone" poles. ;)
It's fairly well known that I very seldom pre-survey sawing jobs, and only then if it happens to be convenient. I am into my 17th year of sawing and I have driven to only one job that I did not saw and that was nothing to do with the logs, it was too wet.
So now what is this all about you ask? Well I pre-surveyed one today and it looks like I will have to buy a new sawmill. :o One that saws vertical. smiley_headscratch
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Of course I knew that they were still standing but the customer wanted me to look at them and give him some estimate of what he has. Those are 24"-28" butt trees that will easily yield 1Mbf per tree. He has his blueprints specifying #2 and/or rough sawn framing lumber, a builder agreeing to build it, and his lender has signed off on the blueprints. His next step is to fell and buck the trees to full fill his cut list and then for me so saw them. Once he has the logs staged, I believe that my old horizontal sawmill can handle the logs just fine. ;D
It would be quite the feat to pull a hot saw off of a fellerbuncher and replace it with a LT40. :D
MM,
That's looks awful flat to me compared to where I normally saw. I tell my customers to make their log stack on the uphill side of the sawing site. I typically bring along several inches of 1X6 or 1X8 boards and drive the low side of the mill up on them to help level it from side to side and dig or shim the landing gear as needed to obtain a moderately level mill.
I hear you. We have driven through WV several times and some of those "level spots" are scary. :o I don't know when this one will be ready to saw but I am thinking September which fits my schedule just fine. I have no intention of sawing in July/August.
Are they coming out cheaper than store bought framing or is it another factor?
I was sawin but won't post a pic, just in to patch and quit bleedin and cool off. A little of my pinkie is prolly still under that oak on the carriage. Yup red oak ::)
These trees are too large for today's market. The sawmills frown on 24" and won't take 26". Since there is no market for selling yes, because his only cost is my sawing. A 16' 2X6 for less than $5.00 is a bargain. That plus pride; "I built this home on my land with my own logs".
I had previously sent him some pictures of the Cabin, so in addition to framing lumber, we will also saw flooring and some wall paneling.
Funny thing, to me at least, is that I drove past two Wood-Mizer owners on my way to check this job out. ;D
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pulled out some pine for a order
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Yielded 13 1x12 and four 1x8 boards
Quote from: YellowHammer on May 18, 2019, 07:50:19 AM
I've been sawing and drying a little walnut, some kiln dried 4/4 boards 8' and 12' long, loaded and on the way to get planed, and also some 30ish" wide 9/4 live edge on the LT70 wide.
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So when does the new 36" planer come so you can dress these WIDE slabs for customers?? ???
That does seem to be a problem. :D Mine only goes to 21" wide.
The only thing better than owning a 35" planer is having a buddy with one, and nobody around here has one. So I'm sawing wood I can't finish. I guess I'll be trolling Craigslist and EBay.
There has been a 40" one on e-bay for a while, older one weighs something like 1 million lbs. :o
It would take over a dozen chickens to move that one!!! ::)
I think I might dim the lights at the county courthouse with a 36" planer :o.
Quote from: YellowHammer on May 20, 2019, 07:58:27 AM
That does seem to be a problem. :D Mine only goes to 21" wide.
The only thing better than owning a 35" planer is having a buddy with one, and nobody around here has one. So I'm sawing wood I can't finish. I guess I'll be trolling Craigslist and EBay.
You're going to have a heck of a time finding a buddy on EBay or Craigslist that you can convince to buy something that large. :D
Quote from: Magicman on May 19, 2019, 03:33:57 PM
Funny thing, to me at least, is that I drove past two Wood-Mizer owners on my way to check this job out. ;D
Yesterday I went to look at a job at my wife's cousin's house. I drove past one Woodmizer on the way. In fact that one is within a mile of her cousin's house. The owner of the sawmill seems to be a peculiar character he saws for some but not others.
Her cousin has about 2MBdft of poplar, red oak and white oak logs. After looking at those, he said he had some walnut logs " down the road". We rode 10 minutes to a log yard that had a Woodmizer under plastic. The guy was trying to saw full time. It didn't work out for him and he is now employed full time in a local manufacturing plant. My customer is moving his walnut logs back to his house for me to saw.
I didn't take a photo of today's job of 400 board feet of 1x6x8 white oak.
Table legs from Manzanita branches today. Pouring rain so mostly we worked inside on furniture. Not our normal weather here this spring !
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tule, what is your modus operandi r.e. cutting legs on mill i.e. the brace and extra ply board. :P
Doc, This is a quick way to reference a bunch of twisty looking legs for furniture or millwork.It is done with screws and glue in a couple of steps , the same way I cut thousands of cookies in short order. The ply and braces hold the branches in space where I want them to be referenced. Attached is a pic of the legs we cut today and a background shot of a winery I did last year with a large number of twisty branches used as corbels. Rob
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We also have done a few material preparations for master stair builders . Almost all of the material comes from my property-I'm selling weeds..... :D
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I can't help but to love Manzanita. The peeling stems remind me of our Crepe Myrtle, but more twisted.
Thanks Magicman, I've been designing more and more with it in odd applications.Stairs, signs, room dividers, doors......
I finished chainsaw milling these two crotches tonight. A cherry and a blackjack oak. Got some nice slabs. Maybe end tables? I milled them 3.25 thick.
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Nice legs Tule!
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Not sawing today but selling.....this is a beautiful sight! I love seeing lumber leaving the yard as I stand here with a little jingle in my pocket!
The truck is from a builder supply that is a repeat customer.
Congratulations on the sale! Being frugal , I would have kept the stickers though....... :D
The lumber was fresh cut from logs cut 3 or 4 months ago. I couldn't bring myself to dead stack it. Seems like I spend a day a month cutting stickers.
Quote from: SawyerTed on May 21, 2019, 11:21:02 AM
Seems like I spend a day a month cutting stickers.
If it goes down the driveway, from my sawmill yard, it goes paid for. Including stickers.
Jim Rogers
Jim stickers are paid for as part of the job here as well. I figure a percentage for dunnage in addition to stickers on every load that goes out.
Hi all, loooong time lurker, first time poster. I've recently come into possession of a wonderful piece of equipment (LT15) and have been spending my time learning the ropes and turning what is supposed to be my firewood pile into some nice looking(to me anyway) lumber. I Learn a lot from these forums and I appreciate the cool pics of what everyone is sawing. Here are a couple of my latest, ash, oak, spalted maple, some of these are really pushing the 15 to her max, but she does pretty good. Also had a wind storm come by and knock over some massive poplar which will be headed to the mill as soon as I can figure out how to get them down to the landing.
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Quote from: SawyerTed on May 21, 2019, 11:21:02 AM
Seems like I spend a day a month cutting stickers.
And then when you think you have enough, they disappear in no time at all. Like socks in the dryer.
I'm pretty sure the portals to a parallel world are at the back of the clothes dryer. Socks a particularly susceptible to spinning into and out of the parallel world. :D
Once in the late afternoon, we were playing scrabble around the table at my sister's house.
Something didn't feel right.
Sure enough, I reached halfway up my pant leg and pulled out a sock. :D :D :D
Well finally started cutting the cherry from 7 or so months ago after 4 operations on back burning nerves and being sick what seemed like every other day and on second log sawed the tip off a back stop can't saw alot a day 3 or 4 logs if I'm lucky but at least I'm doing something keep sawing
@Curlybirtch (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=9701) Nice Job ! Good looking & interesting samples. What will you be doing with your lumber?
Curlybirtch--welcome to the Forum, neighbor! Looks like it didn't take long for you to get Sawdust Fever. 8) 8) And the pics look great. All the best, Rob.
Quote from: Lko67 on May 22, 2019, 08:08:25 PMand on second log sawed the tip off a back stop
As they say - there are two kinds of sawyers out there. Those who admit they saw off a piece of their mill with the band, and those who lie about it. :D Good to hear you are improving. Been there, done that, just keep pushing ahead and look back to realize you are making progress.
I send loads out on stickers all the time...I figure it as cost of doing "GOOD" buisiness. Did the moldy, dead stacked pine board thing for too long..you will loose buisiness doing that...
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Nice looking load !
I almost never, ever sell green off the mill. Boards leaving here have been stickered for 1-10 years and most of the wood leaving here is KD. I should have mentioned that.
Lawg Dawg, keep up the good work !
Welcome welcome to the forum @Curlybirtch (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=9701) That's some mighty purdy wood you've been sawin on your LT15. Glad that you are having fun making sawdust. To me there's nothing more relaxing than a hard day at the mill. Keep on posting.
@nativewolf (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24089) Thanks, Im not sure, right now its stickered and stacked. I mostly saw for myself as I am a novice timber framer (my own buildings) and am just getting into some of the hard wood as I have done a fair bit of wood working in the past and know how expensive the good stuff can be. I may try my hand a selling the thicker live edge cuts but I'm not much of a salesman.
Stuck on sticker detail today.
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got a honey locust from a local tree guy Sean and his 10 y/o son Jed. he wants to make a table. had a crook/bow to it, just getting it squared up.
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We need pics of the wood !!!
Quote from: doc henderson on May 24, 2019, 03:01:40 PM
got a honey locust from a local tree guy Sean and his 10 y/o son Jed. he wants to make a table. had a crook/bow to it, just getting it squared up.
Centering the pith on that one looks to be a challenge. Is he making a live edge slab table, or doing a proper job? there should be enough wood there either way. I'd like to see what kind of lumber you pull out of this. I imagine that is a fairly sift wood? We don't have that here that I am aware of.
QuoteI imagine that is a fairly sift wood?
The honey locust we have around here is similar to red oak as far as hardness and weight are concerned.
A client bought a set of 6/4, live-edged, bookmatched planks and sent me a photo of the table he built.
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just got honey locust sawed before it started to rain again. Sean and Jed will be making a 3.5 foot wide by 20 foot with leaves table out of 1.5 inch locust with 3 x 3 legs. they even did the thumbs up!
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the board on the left of the truck is a 3/4 by 24 inch wide, by 9+ feet long, we took to even up the cant to make the table top boards 11.5 inches wide so his planer can do the work. all the other boards are 9+ feet. the ends were huge but with the curve we lost some volume, but left stuff for some rustic benches. Sean took pics of the grain and i will add that later. that is a full width pallet by 10 feet long for scale.
Well I'm still in Chainsaw Mill mode this week. Today I finished a 34" Catalpa, and finished the opening cut on a Black Walnut. My mom is likely going to get a 10 foot long table from the walnut....unless she sees and like the curly cherry from a couple weeks ago!
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@Brad_bb (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=6191) , are those really big matches or really little logs? the sticks with the red tips? :D :D :D looks great, your Mom will be thrilled.
Those are stickers. One way I've started making sure I have consistent thickness is laying them on horses all together and spraying two opposite faces. Then I run the other two faces through the planer. That way when laying them down I know which is the correct direction to lay them.
CSM'ing is tough work for sure. Trying to finish every thing I have that needs it so that I don't have to do it for awhile.
my new rig.. a HF sprayer that last year I put into a cheese puff container to take outside and use with anchorseal on the log ends. i moved it inside in the winter and it sat all winter in the shop with no lid on the container. It had a 1/4 inch thick skin on the top of the liquid. i plugged it in and it sprayed right off. i cleaned the container, and the sprayer. the problem was that I could not get the lid off the 5 gal bucket. called US coating, and they told me the lids did not have slits, so to take a hand saw and cut slits. the pull tube on the sprayer would not fit in the hole of the lid. so got the lid off and took the strainer off and put the tubes through the hole and replaced the strainer. then the problem was the height of the bucket so I found some 1 inch conduit clamps and screwed the sprayer to the bucket. i will wrap the small opening with a rag to slow evaporation from the top of the wax emulsion. if it is too hard, I just won't do it. this makes it easy and fun. I can carry the sprayer and bucket by the handle on the sprayer, it will stay outside all summer.
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still very muddy out by the mill, just like @Old Greenhorn (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103) we are thankful for the little and occ. big victories!!
Ah, everybody here is so DanG productive! I feel like a slouch. I have too many things I am doing at the same time, but I did fire up the mill for a few cuts this evening to flatten off some maple slab cast-offs to use as ties for a workbench top and I found a little spalting besides. Doesn't matter, these will be under the top. Just trying to plan my workday tomorrow (after I make coffee, Doc).
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I also did some digging on a stump and pointless yanking with the mule. Spent some time talking to a little doe that came in to keep me company. She didn't have much to say even though I tried to bribe her with a fresh maple branch-let. No go, couldn't get closer than 6 feet. Women!
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Tomorrow will bring whatever it does.
looks good OG. You are keeping up with most of us!!! here is a pic of some of the honey locust grain.
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Quote from: Old Greenhorn on May 24, 2019, 07:50:44 PMAh, everybody here is so DanG productive! I feel like a slouch. I have too many things I am doing at the same time...
It only looks that way. I go in spurts. The previous two weeks my helper was on vacation and I was a slug while he was gone. I'd planned to get all the chainsaw milling done while he was gone, but I didn't start until two days before he got back. I sawed the two crotches Monday. I started the Catalpa log on Wed and finished it today(Friday) and just started the Walnut. So that's basically 2 and 1/2 logs in a week. Yeah I did a few other little things...but still not that productive. Some acquaintances see some of my milling pics and other things I do and think I'm super ambitious. Maybe to them it is, but my opinion is that I'm basically lazy at heart. I can vegetate with the best of them. I get really frustrated sometimes at not accomplishing the things I set out to in a shorter time frame. Ok, I need to go take a nap now.
i agree, of course it is my hobby. some days I spend all day getting organized, doing honey do's or resting up from my day (night) job. and some days everything comes together. Started raining and now here i sit typing on the computer!
Stocking up the big ones
Waiting for the new lt40 wide in June 8)
Been milling pine 1x boards selling as fast as I can mill them with the old mill.
Making grade and garden stakes.Got an order for 50 stakes 8' long.
Picked up a new customer a concrete company.Going to supply 1x12 footing boards and 1x2½x4 footing cleats.
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Bruno, nice stack you have there. 1x material for form boards, seems crazy, going to have to stake the crud out of those footing forms or end up with a fancy footing in lieu of a straight one. I place a ton of concrete yearly and when I mill my own form boards its a true 2" nominal, if I have to buy from the box store its standard 1 1/2 with several additional stakes added to support the forms from deflection. None the less congrats on picking up a new client, all the best, sure your chomping at the bit for the new mill to get there.
I'm not getting much in the way of free time to mill the logs I have laying around since I've been working a lot of ot trying to get the CLT plant up and running. We're making progress though, today we got the finger joiner and flying saw running and made a whack of 60' 2x6's
Bruno, June is just around the corner. I know you will put up a pict. when you get it. Banjo
Autumn here in New Zealand so cool enough to enjoy sawing again.
We picked up some eucaliptus saligna that the owner didn't want to end up as fire wood.
They say it can be tricky to dry so I cut it into 100mm x 25mm (1 inch by 4 inches?) thinking it can be machined down for flooring and might dry ok in that size.
Just rough stacked here before I move out to the drying pile.
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I guess that I'm not a rookie anymore, hit my first nail yesterday milling a customers back yard maple tree. It took me by surprise when it whacked the nail and dove down into the log and stopped. So much for the brand new turbo 7.
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welcome to the forum Camsmith!
jb616, welcome to the club! The trick to learn is to stop real quick to prevent or minimize a major dive. Now you have to learn how to remove nails. Depending on the nail situation, I'll use a old school nail remover like this(we've nicknamed the Slapper Whacker):
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Sometimes though, if the nail is in there really well in hardwood, you need to drill around it with an 1/8" drill bit to loosen it up. And sometimes a cats paw will work:
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Also, it doesn't hurt to have a metal detector. I don't scan every log, just the ones I suspect or i've already hit a nail in. I use the Garrett Super Scanner, it looks like an airport security want. Works great! If you're scanning a log and find a nail, I pinpoint it by moving the detector in two directions. Then I use my axe to quickly chop a chip out to expose the head.
Nail diving....an unappreciated sport.....
The guy I worked for in HS building houses, Kenny Skeels, could drive a 16 penny nail in about 3 hits. he didn't baby his starter hit either. His right forearm was twice the size of his left. Of course we all use screws and pneumatic nail guns now. My dad was a pilot, and when I was about 4, I took some oak trim out of the neighbors burn barrel cause I thought the baseboard looked like a wing. I bet my dad let me try to drive finish nails through those pieces for an hour before he finally came out and pre drilled some holes. No one has the patience to teach those lessons it seems these days.
Here is the honey locust from Friday, now stacked and sticker and banded by Sean and his son Jed.
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Doc, my father was also a pilot (Naval Aviator) so I never really knew him. He loved carrier life and was good at it.
His father an immigrant from Hungry would take me into the basement at his house, teach to me build things, layup summer veges for the winter, and how to smoke. He had a little pipe built for me and as part of future manhood training -you should be able to pack and smoke properly. I was 5.
On my mothers side, I remember running across the snow covered fields of an Indiana farm to get my juice glass of wine and a wedge of cheese at 7 AM.... every morning. These were Italian immigrants that worked in the steel mills in Gary. I was 7
Last year I became a father, this kid is in for a ride.......... ::)
I have broken drill bits and needle nose pliers attempting to remove from a board. @Brad_bb (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=6191) @tule peak timber (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=25190)
Quote from: tule peak timber on May 26, 2019, 01:59:39 PM
Last year I became a father, this kid is in for a ride.......... ::)
amen brother. you are both in for a ride, something tells me you are up for the adventure. congrats! you have lived quite a life, and cont. to do so.
Trying to figure it out :)
Quote from: doc henderson on May 26, 2019, 02:04:01 PM
I have broken drill bits and needle nose pliers attempting to remove from a board.
I prefer the black Ace Hardware brand 1/8" drill bits. They don't seem to break as easily as the typical HSS Hansen bits. You still have to be careful not put too much side pressure or get the flute caught on the nail, you can still break them, but after doing this for awhile we don't break them that often. You do have to toss them when they start to get dull. When you do break one you just have to drill the other side of the nail, get the nail out, then get the broken drill bit out.
@Brad_bb (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=6191) I just got a coupon for my ace rewards, I will go get some. I have an expensive set for perfect drilling, but lots of odds and ends for loan or trouble projects. @tule peak timber (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=25190) I always used the phrase "8 hours bottle to throttle" meaning leave plenty of time before work with out alcohol. My favorite naval aviator/old scoutmaster said in the navy it was " never drink within 50 feet of an aircraft or smoke 8 hour prior to flight" kinda backwards on purpose. :D :D :D smiley_beertoast
Tule peak
At 6 years old my grandpa would give me a juice glass of beer on Saturday mornings to have with my peanut butter crackers .
Good memories I spent a lot of time with him.
Then there was the time a coworker and I wrinkled the wings on a cessna doing acrobatics over Lake Cachuma.My dad's favorite saying was, there are no old , bold pilots.
Quote from: Bruno of NH on May 26, 2019, 03:39:25 PM
Tule peak
At 6 years old my grandpa would give me a juice glass of beer on Saturday mornings to have with my peanut butter crackers .
Good memories I spent a lot of time with him.
I still insist on drinking out of a juice glass. Those memories run strong ....
It is all the near misses in life that train us to avoid the direct hits!
It is 14:51 here in Ks, how bout on the hour (in 9 minutes) we raise a "juice glass" to our dads and grandpa's. cheers!
smiley_beertoast
I re-ground a 1/4" cold chisel to a profile closer to a wood chisel. Flattened one side. 4 taps surrounding the nail, couple taps to remove some wood, exposes enough nail to get a grip. Holds up well and works fast. Can go deeper when the nail is stubborn. I touch up the edge once in a while, but it doesn't get much damage. Takes a little touch not to cut the nail off below grade accidentally. Sort of like cutting a small mortise around the nail. Works better for me than the drill bit thing and I've been using the same cold chisel for years now.
Quote from: doc henderson on May 26, 2019, 03:53:08 PM
It is 14:51 here in Ks, how bout on the hour (in 9 minutes) we raise a "juice glass" to our dads and grandpa's. cheers!
smiley_beertoast
Cheers !
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Just honing my planer knifes as the elm last night was sounding tough, and havin a sip. cheers to you papa.
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Quote from: doc henderson on May 26, 2019, 01:58:41 PM
Here is the honey locust from Friday, now stacked and sticker and banded by Sean and his son Jed.
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Doc - second offer for a job stacking lumber here at my place. I will even pay the @YellowHammer (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=11488) going rate of $0.15 / MBF for your services. :D
southside it is a chicken, or a dozen eggs, per board foot, but i can only take credit as a mentor, as Sean and his son did the stackin, stickerin and banding. thanks!
It may sound counter intuitive, but sometimes on those stubborn nails that have been in place for a while. If you give them a whack with the hammer, it will break the bond and pull easier.
We had a family reunion and I asked my nephew if he wanted to run the mill. He said that he did so I gave him a western juniper log to saw. Now he's talking about when he gets his mill.
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Darrel, Some pretty country in the background of your pics. The sticks aren't bad either !
we do a demo of the mill in action at our annual family reunion a well. i do not let others operate since their are so many people around. i might have to check the mod thread to see if there is a breath-a-lizer tube add on to blow in before people can saw. :D :D :D smiley_beertoast
@tule peak. That's Eastern Oregon.
Quote from: doc henderson on May 28, 2019, 05:17:03 PM
we do a demo of the mill in action at our annual family reunion a well. i do not let others operate since their are so many people around. i might have to check the mod thread to see if there is a breath-a-lizer tube add on to blow in before people can saw. :D :D :D smiley_beertoast
I think that the "breath-a-lizer tube" needs to be part of the ignition system and should be set at 0.02.
Gerald
The TimberKing and I traveled 63 miles to Iowa this past weekend to do a custom saw job. 6 logs total and one 42" wide forked walnut crotch that we had to whittle down a bit to fit between the roller guides. We started out the day having to move the entire log pile with my cant-hooks before I could get the mill into position. This was no surprise as I knew this beforehand because I did a site visit a few weeks prior.
Below is one of the ash slabs ready to come off the mill.
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Walnut slabs being cut.
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I used one Kasco 4° for the 6 logs but put on a new Kasco 4° for the crotch after the opening cut revealed a wave in my cut.
Sorry I didn't take time for walnut crotch photos but I should have. They were quite nice and revealed large areas of crotch figure in them. The customer and his 21 year old son handled almost all of the slabs by themselves. I only had to help them with a few of the heaviest slabs.
The client was happy and says he will definitely use my services again. He also asked for some of my business cards to hand out. This made for a successful 1/2 days work and potential future work for me.
Sun baked Wormy Ash (aka pallet wood). Before:
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After:
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I need to make a couple pallets so I pulled a couple Ash cants from the back building. Last year I milled between 80 or more Ash logs and 2 or 3 of them were wormy like this. 2 were punky, the rest were all perfectly good despite being dead on the stump, and laying on bunks in the yard for 6+ months, some a year. Instead of making the wormy ones firewood, I knew I could use them down the road for purpose like pallets. The wood is still plenty strong enough. These 4.5" wide top boards for a couple pallets. There are no worms left, just frass in their tunnels.
Darrel which part of Eastern Oregon?
Not nearly as far east as you, about 50 miles northeast of Klamath Falls.
I just finished a 40 piece order of trailer planks. Second trailer for the same customer.
The last log I was going to cut, I only needed two 1 1/2" x 6" x 10' planks out of it.
and wouldn't you know it wasn't an oak log. Ends were dark and I couldn't/didn't notice that it was maple.
I was pithed.
I cut them but the quality was very low and I knew that they wouldn't stand up to the trailer use.
So I replaced them with two red oak ones.
Anyone need to low grade 1 1/2x6x10' maple planks? just kidding.
I'll most likely make them into some stakes for the nursery company.
Jim Rogers
PS and when I started this maple log, I put on a brand new fresh out of the box 4° blade and second cut I sliced through 12 nails.
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was not happy at all, and while changing the blade it started raining.
I went home.
Quote from: Jim_Rogers on May 30, 2019, 03:07:01 PM
I just finished a 40 piece order of trailer planks. Second trailer for the same customer.
The last log I was going to cut, I only needed two 1 1/2" x 6" x 10' planks out of it.
and wouldn't you know it wasn't an oak log. Ends were dark and I couldn't/didn't notice that it was maple.
I was pithed.
I cut them but the quality was very low and I knew that they wouldn't stand up to the trailer use.
So I replaced them with two red oak ones.
Anyone need to low grade 1 1/2x6x10' maple planks? just kidding.
I'll most likely make them into some stakes for the nursery company.
Jim Rogers
PS and when I started this maple log, I put on a brand new fresh out of the box 4° blade and second cut I sliced through 12 nails.
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was not happy at all, and while changing the blade it started raining.
I went home.
Jim,
I'm not the Sawyer most of you guys are, but I've picked up a thing or two;
"Some days you're the (Sharp) sawblade, and some days you're the nail."
My first job as a kid of eleven was working for a horseman who was born in '02. His favorite saying was "You just need to learn when to throw your hands up and walk away, otherwise you'll make it worse."
Heart smiley_heart shaped sugar cookies. (Sugar Maple that is.) ;D
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I peeled the bark off a few, and shaved the edge a little, to try to make them more attractive.
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Cut enough from 1 log to make a nice stack on the pallet. 8)
Very cool, i had some ERC come out like Christmas trees, and today cut a ERC and the butt of one looked like a heart. i cut one for the owner, a fellow pediatrician, but did not take a picture. ERC is like those ink blot tests, might disclose something about your personality.
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Heart smiley_heart shaped sugar cookies. (Sugar Maple that is.) ;D
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I peeled the bark off a few, and shaved the edge a little, to try to make them more attractive.
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Cut enough from 1 log to make a nice stack on the pallet. 8)
Those pups will sell ! :)
Quote from: Resonator on May 30, 2019, 08:20:16 PM
Heart smiley_heart shaped sugar cookies. (Sugar Maple
here is what i made a few years back with maple cookies.
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and here is the ERC looking like a Christmas tree. I guess we are already missing winter! :D
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Your pith is off center, bad. I always suspected something :D.
WOW! Danny!!! a little grouchy? :D :D :D here is the heart shaped ERC, Dr. Losew sent me a pic.
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This must be what Danny's heart is shaped like! 8)
Kinda looks like my finger except that the right half would be missing...
Quote from: doc henderson on May 30, 2019, 08:24:49 PMand today cut a ERC and the butt of one looked like a heart
So if you turn it upside down the butt will look like a butt. ;D
Quote from: WDH on May 30, 2019, 08:47:10 PM
Kinda looks like my finger except that the right half would be missing...
Well you can forget about being asked to judge anything since you will prob never give a score higher than 9.5, at least if you give a score by holding up your hands! :) :) :)
Quote from: tule peak timber on May 30, 2019, 08:27:20 PMThose pups will sell !
Thanks! Hopefully they are good sellers, especially in June! smiley_love
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I just started on a big Chinese Chestnut log last week before taking my Son to Disney in Florida for the week, Just got back home and I hope to finish up this log tomorrow. Forward to about the 6 minute mark to see the sawing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZj5WbZNWdA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZj5WbZNWdA)
Tule, we thought their might be some aliens out in Cali!!! ;D :D :) :D ;D :D :)
great wood and great video 123!!!
Doc your Christmas tree cedar looks like a cow sonogram. ;D
Nathan, that is beautiful wood. You outdid yourself once again.
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I just about threw this log away.....but decide to try it :o
If you do not want it, I can haul it away for you!!! 8) I am only 50 minutes from you. nice. never hurts to peak inside.
see, logging and forestry are alive and well in Kansas. I think i can almost see the mountains 500 miles in the background of your photo!! past the trees and blue sky~! :D :D :D
Quote from: Southside on May 30, 2019, 11:36:09 PM
Doc your Christmas tree cedar looks like a cow sonogram. ;D
You are right, that is "udderly" amazing. at least we got you off chickens!!! 8) did you ever stop to think, maybe your cow sonograms look like Christmas trees? ink blot test!
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I just about threw this log away.....but decide to try it :o
I'm curious from those of you who have done a lot of this sort of thing: What are the success rates when drying slabs like this? I'm sure a lot depends on species, how it's dried, and luck but any sort of ballpark would help. I've got plenty of ugly logs and I'm torn between turning them into firewood or taking the time to saw and sticker them. I know most will be a PITA to saw and I'm worried about going to all that work only to end up with a bunch of cracked, split, and twisted slabs. Mostly bur oak, maple, and walnut.
Alan
With how popular it is right now, I think any Walnut would be worth the trouble of sawing. Remember you can always cut the slabs into smaller pieces for turning blocks, handles, shelves, etc. and cut around the defects.
Alan, No such thing as Walnut firewood. With slabs these days, the uglier the log the better. Seal the ends with Anchorseal, Stack and sticker it out of the sun for 6 months to a year, then kiln dry them. I've heard the solar Kilns are working pretty well for slabs, and they are relatively cheap to build. You can build more than one. Or you could DH Kiln dry them. They will do whatever they will do. A crack or void is an opportunity for a bowtie, epoxy fill, or whatever creative thing your head can dream up. After they are good and dry you need to have a way to flatten the slabs.
Quote from: Crossroads on May 26, 2019, 10:04:15 PM
It may sound counter intuitive, but sometimes on those stubborn nails that have been in place for a while. If you give them a whack with the hammer, it will break the bond and pull easier.
I've done that many times
Jim Rogers
In my experience, walnut like that will dry nice. Oak like that will crack and split and crack and split.
Not much cutting just a little scaling today.
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I'll cut it all out tomorow. ;D
How many feet on that tri-axle Peter?
Got this wack of Yellow Pine delivered today.
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Is sawing one log and paying with one log for me a good deal? I agreed to this for this load. Let me know if that is a good deal or not. He drove for over 35 minutes to deliver them. They are mostly 20 foot long.
hugs, Brandi
Will be sawing this White Oak on Sunday.
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hugs, Brandi
I only saw on shares if I need the the logs I'm sawing and when I do, it's almost always 50/50. If they bring the logs to me, I supply the fuel for the mill. If I bring the mill to the logs and I have to hall my lumber and the mill home (making 2 trips) they pay mileage and supply the fuel. I look at sawing on shares as doing them a special favor.
Quote from: Bindian on May 31, 2019, 11:25:54 PMIs sawing one log and paying with one log for me a good deal? I agreed to this for this load. Let me know if that is a good deal or not. He drove for over 35 minutes to deliver them. They are mostly 20 foot long.
Depends what the log is worth to you? If you would actually pay ~$50 for a log, AND would saw a similar log for ~$50, then it's a fair trade. Personally I wouldn't do it with pine as it's a bulk commodity here, and the local stuff needs to be at least borate treated to use for anything. So it has pretty much no value to me. But I'll sure as heck do it for more valuable woods that I can either use or sell. If you have a use / market for the that pine, then it can be a good deal.
Just make sure you aren't doing $50 of sawing for a $25 log.....Try and do $50 of work for a $75 log if you can ;)
Thanks guys. Worth it to me. I have long pine beams in my log house building future and he can get them for me. Right now, it is a favor to him.
hugs, Brandi
Quote from: Southside on May 31, 2019, 10:14:19 PM
How many feet on that tri-axle Peter?
Not sure. Offhand I'd say 5000'
I have done some 50/50 shares before, but I wanted those logs and was able to sell my share of the lumber at a profit, so it depends. Were those pine dead when he felled them? That would change the equation in my mind. Also if they were yard trees it would change things too.
Nice Walnut for a customer today. 14' long and 25" diameter. I cut a few 5/4, a 3" slab for a mantel and the rest at 8/4 for a table. Sorry about the sideways pic, I never get tired of looking at the grain.
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Finally got back to sawing the cherry I posted last year 9 logs to go of all the big ones are left :D
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finally got back to sawing the cherry I posted last year 9 logs to go all the big ones :D
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I got you covered. Nice sticker stack.
Poplar "logs" :D
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Had a new customer bring me some Poplar to saw into 1" boards for a cabin, wasn't much better than firewood, but told him I'd do what I could.
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He also had a half rotten Maple log, that turned out to have ferocious tiger stripes. He builds guitars for a hobby, and will use the wood for that someday. smiley_guitarist
Tornado logs..Thia whack from a neighbors yard.. All nice syp
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These from around my house
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Looks like about a two week job for somebody like MagicMan.
BUT, I don't have a wm super, or a ride-along seat Or ANY help, so It's gonna take a while..
I got the mill started today and sawed some southern redcedar. The customer wanted it all live edged and 1" or 2" thick. This took me a little over two hours including sawing off several branches, and cleaning the mill.
I am getting used to the Accuset2 but I would benefit from a tutorial from someone who is more proficient in its use. Sometimes after making a cut, raising the head and gigging back, the head does not return to where I anticipated that it would. Not a big deal but it takes a little time to get back on track. The pattern mode is the berries though.
Yesterday evening I made couple of saw donkeys. They served me well today and seem to be stout enough to hold quite a load.
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When I finished, I headed up to Sam's Club to buy a new battery for the mill. The one I charged all night last night started it but it did not spin the engine over with authority. This little saw job will almost pay for the battery. The wind was out of the south and the cedar sawdust was blowing right in my face. I did stop for a few minutes to go get a mask out of the shop after the first log.
Good Looking ERC,
I am trying to familiarize myself also with the Accu Set2, Lots to learn,
A big ponderosa pine had to come down and the owner hired me to slice up the second log. The top was gone many years ago and the first log was rotten and burned out. When a tree has fire on the inside, it has to come down.
I had the best tail gunner ever. A 17 year old kid, Justin, about 6' 4" and might have weighed 150 pounds.
First half of log on the mill and using loading arms and firewood to position for clamping.
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Second half of log on mill.
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Oh yes, that Ponderosa is a mouth full. 8)
No pictures today of poplar order I started. Had to realign my mill so maybe tomorrow. :-\ It's about 10k and some "niceuns"!!! smiley_blue_bounce
Got a little work done on this 10" section of white oak, 32" at the base. Got 3 cuts done with the chainsaw mill and the rain showed up. Try to knock the rest out tomorrow.
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Hooterspfld, What saw are you using for the CSM? No auxiliary oiler?
Also, I was talking to Goose at the Pig Roast last year, and he explained using those "Question- Mark" shaped conduit clamps to hold his ladder down for the first cut. He just screws them right into the tree after hooking them to a rung. I bought some, but I haven't tried it yet because I want to pick up a MS661 or bigger to do my milling. Don't want to smoke my trusty MS461.
Nice Post.....
Steve
We used to use screws and shims before the Lucas.
Bullet! :o
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Hey Steve,
I run a 661 with a 36" bar when milling. I do intend to build an auxiliary oiler, but hadn't gotten around to it before this tree came down. For now, I just make sure to run slow and steady with a sharp chain and I haven't had any problems. I've got this oak and a 2nd one close to the house that didn't come back after winter. Looks like oak wilt and some sort of black fungus got them. As far as clamps, I just screw the later to the tree using some plumbers strapping, not sure what the real term is. Definitely wouldn't want to use anything smaller than the 661, would really feel more comfortable with an 880, but can't really justify that expense.
-Adam
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I also use the u-shaped pipe clamps around the rung and screwed directly to the log. Works great and just have to make sure first cut is deeper than screws. I also milled for a couple of years with the exact same setup 660 with 36" bar and did not need aux oiler. Have not chainsaw milled since getting ezjr but may have to break it out for some bigger logs at a local spot.
I finally found a nice cedar log at one of my haunts. I have been milling for a number of years but never got my hands on one of these. They were about 15 minutes away from being rolled into the burn pile. Tough decision is how many cookies to cut off the fat end before live edge slabbing the rest.
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depends on what you have planned for the lumber. the lobulations will split some of the wood so depends on what length and width you want. study the bark inclusions and get the most out of what you got.
Quote from: Downstream on June 04, 2019, 09:56:43 PMTough decision is how many cookies to cut off the fat end before live edge slabbing the rest.
I would not decrease the log's yield by shortening it too much. You are going to get a few cookies from the limb stubs which may be less prone to split. Anyway, good find and enjoy the sawing. Deciding what you want the logs to be is just as important as the actual sawing.
Perfect for cookies! The way that I charge for cookies is to calculate the square feet in the circular shape of the cookies and then multiple that by the thickness. Essentially this calculates board feet. For example:
Say you have a cedar cookie that is 20" in diameter and 3" thick. Take the 20", square it, and multiply that by .005454. Same as figuring basal area in a tree. This gives the square feet in the circle. Multiply that by 3 and you have a measure of bf in the cookie.
20 x 20 = 400. 400 x .005454 = 2.2. 2.2 x 3 = 6.6. So 6.6 bf equivalent in that cookie. If I am selling 4/4 cedar at $3.75/ bf, then that cookie would be worth $25. But the cookie is 3" thick, not 1" thick, so if the thicker cedar price was higher, say it is $5.00, then the cookie would be worth $33.
This is the way that I can take a high value wood like walnut and cut cookies and make as much as if I cut that same amount of wood into lumber.
Also, cutting lumber you have a good amount of waste that you can't sell, cutting cookies and slabs you have very little.
Good comments on losing some slabs to inclusions. I will need to look the logs over again from that perspective. My business is primarily making furniture and accessories so I rarely sell lumber or larger cookies since I can make a lot more money selling the bench or table, plus it is what I love to do. I sell smaller cookies 10-12in for wedding pieces but 20" and bigger usually end up in an end or coffee table. I usually slice large cookies at about 3" thick for table tops. I will ponder this one for a little while longer since when I take the first slab I can't undo that cut. I will post pictures after done.
Sawing 8x8's and 2x6's for my son in law's pole barn. With my 6' extension I can cut 22' with no fuss.
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Quote from: Darrel on June 04, 2019, 10:50:44 PM
Also, cutting lumber you have a good amount of waste that you can't sell, cutting cookies and slabs you have very little.
I pleased a customer this morning with a car full of cookies----al of them waste limb trim.$
I have an 8 foot long 2 and a half foot wide monterey cypress slab (2 inches thick) that has been drying outside for one year here in California near Monterey of course. I'm trying to make a long desk for two of my kids and this is my first slab project. I used a planar to flatten the slab and it worked fairly well although it is not perfectly flat, but it is fairly flat. I then sanded with 60 grit and then 120 grit to smoothen.
My issue is that that there are some thin cracks (less than a 1/16 of an inch). One crack is about 2 feet long and the rest are 4 to 6 inches long. There are some think checks as well at the end of the wood. The wood is very light colored. I'm looking for suggestions about what to do about the cracks.
thanks in advance for replying
Quote from: ronaldwf on June 09, 2019, 02:39:26 AMMy issue is that that there are some thin cracks (less than a 1/16 of an inch). One crack is about 2 feet long and the rest are 4 to 6 inches long. There are some think checks as well at the end of the wood.
My suggestion would be to break out the masking tape and epoxy. Triple tape any crack you can see on the back side, and the ends, then pour epoxy resin over the cracks, letting it soak in. Might needs a couple of pours if all sinks into the crack.
This is a slab of Macrocarpa that's now our dining table. Knot holes and any checks are filled with West System epoxy, and it has various holiday coins and trinkets embedded in the bigger knot holes.
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BTW, I live in New Zealand, but Monterey Cypress is common here, and I've worked with it quite a lot.
Do you recommend using tinted black epoxy or just clear epoxy.
As a total newbie, what generally confuses me is that there seem to be a lot of ways to "finish" the wood. But I'm not really sure what goes on first and what are the pros and cons of various coverings.
After that do you use a clear shellac, amber shellac, or an oil, or miniwax product, or a polyurethane or or something else. And what order do these things go on, and how many layers of each
thanks again, love your table
ronald
I read that some folks like to add sawdust to the epoxy and I guess with the intention that the color will be similar while others like a black streak (although for light colored cypress I would think that a dark line would seem unnatural)
Any tips for preventing cracking on my other 9 slabs. They are just drying in the air stickered with a tarp thrown over the top.
Ronald
there is a ton of stuff on you tube and pinterest. it is to personal taste, but prob. best to start out slow until you get the hang of it. the epoxy can be planed and sanded. do not us a planer if you put rocks in it. it will nick your blades. i have put urethane finish over the top as epoxy is somewhat of a plastic as well. if the crack goes out the end of the board it would be best to stabilize it so the movement does not pop the epoxy out like ice from a ice tray. like a bow-tie. again lots of ideas online. If one in 10 is cracking out the end, could be the board or a crack started early. if they are all doing it, may need better end sealing of the log. meaning sooner. better product, more of it ect.
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clear epoxy with real turquoise.
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epoxy with lamp black pigment and turquoise inlay. Made by friend Jimmy
Just did a custom job Friday morning. He brought in 4 red oak logs and just wanted them sawn 4/4 live edge. He scheduled for two hours and I did it in one. When I shut the mill off he looked at me and said
Dang (family version :D) you are fast.
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And 1/4 of the time was taken up just getting them off the trailer.
Quote from: doc henderson on June 04, 2019, 10:01:00 PM
the lobulations .
Is that a converted medical term? I'd never heard it related to wood but i like it!
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Opened up an elm tree(not sure what kind) and found this inside! These were flitches from the top before I got to slabbing. Got some 2 1/2"x 30"x13' slabs with this stuff in them.
Maybe more "lobulations" !! 8)
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Quote from: doc henderson on June 04, 2019, 10:01:00 PM
the lobulations .
Is that a converted medical term? I'd never heard it related to wood but i like it!
I like it. Maybe put it in the FF Dictionary :P
Haven't posted in a while, but been busy. This HUGE rainbow poplar is kinda mind-blowing material.
Slabs are 42-48" wide! Single board bar tops, tables, or islands :o
Have another one, almost 20" larger ! :o Oh, my aching back! :-\ :'(
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Cha Ching! $$
Quote from: ronaldwf on June 09, 2019, 01:16:19 PMAs a total newbie, what generally confuses me is that there seem to be a lot of ways to "finish" the wood. But I'm not really sure what goes on first and what are the pros and cons of various coverings.
For small cracks I just use clear epoxy. Because the crack is narrow and deep, it ends up looking black anyway. For the bigger holes I inserted a wood plug, and epoxied around it with darkened resin. Leaving a 1/2" depression on the top. The wood plug just saves on epoxy, if you can 3/4 fill the hole with wood, you only use 1/4 the resin, and because it's tinted, you can't tell what's inside. Then it had some coins and shells placed in clear epoxy over top. Sand back the excess and finish sanding the top. Then I use several coats of epoxy, with a light sand between coats. There are other methods that probably look better, but this is an everyday table with kids, so I wanted durable, and the epoxy helps harden the surface a bit, plus waterproof and easy clean.
Still putzing with the garden trees. This weekend I can home with some small bits of Chinaberry, some Wild cherry (mostly sapwood from a ~12" log), and a few more deodar cedar boards,
And interesting mix, even if a lot of it is random short pieces.
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Stacked & stickered. Hoping to dry them slow in my shop to help with the checking
Pa, that's some beautiful mineral in that poplar!! Wish I had some with mineral in it. It don't sell good commercially but I'm sure I could find a home for it locally!! ;)
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Went to Woodmizer Northeast in Hannibal, NY last Friday for the training day. This is a LT40 Wide, Diesel. Quarter sawing demo.
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Quote from: Jeff on June 10, 2019, 12:11:50 PM
Quote from: doc henderson on June 04, 2019, 10:01:00 PM
the lobulations .
Is that a converted medical term? I'd never heard it related to wood but i like it!
I like it. Maybe put it in the FF Dictionary :P
it is a "coveted" medical term like lobes of the lung, but i have heard it used r.e. bark inclusions near the roots, so the wood bulges out, and there is a cleavage of bark going in. i guess i could resort to playboy terminology :D :D :D , but i will stick with the medicinal terms, thank you!!! @Jeff (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=1) @Magicman (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=10011) . @busenitzcww (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=43952) , i see that a lot in Elm, and if you have ever seen the wood with the bark off, there are often lots of little (I have to watch my terminology) "teets", :) :) :) on the outside of the wood, and sort of in the same pattern and i assume they are related. pics to follow
elm planned un-finished.
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the above is smooth, next is sapwood from an elm tree
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the next is the other side of the sapwood showing the traditional elm color but the "teets" show through.
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@Rodman (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=37853) , those look great and nicely stacked. you may want to slow it more, with some shade cloth or a sheet over it, but take it off each day. if they split, you may have to soak new ones in denatured alcohol to displace water, and i have also dried them in a box. cedar is more forgiving than others. and if you want rustic, a few splits may just fit the bill. good luck.
I believe what you are seeing in the elm are stem sprouts from buds in the bark. These are called epicormic sprouts.
Thanks Danny.
Yeah I've seen those mini burls on the sides of elm trees, but this trunk didn't seem to have those??.
Reminds me of what you would see under maple bark as an indication of birds-eye in the lumber. Never knew what actually caused it other than you were more likely to find it where Maple and Hemlock grew together. Same epicormic sprouts?
PA_Walnut, that is some sick color. Will that color remain after it's dry and you put a finish on? Or will it oxidize and just turn brown?
The What show through?🤭
A neighbor wanted to build a picnic table so I went out to my lot and sawed 3 RO logs to get her order plus some stock off the side. The first thing I had to do was address a yellow jacket nest inside the frame about midway of the mill that had been built since I parked it there several weeks ago. I guess there were a couple dozen very angry yellow jackets flying around. I could not see the nest but sprayed it good with hornet spray till they quit coming out. When finished I called my neighbor took her order to her. She only lives half a mile up the road. Was 76 bf and we laid it out to be sure we had all the pieces. It will be a really heavy table if she uses it all as planned. The top will be 32" wide and 8' long and I had her 4 very pretty mostly quartersawn boards which should be a really nice top. I got home and blew the sawdust out of the mill and covered it for the night at dusk and parked the trailer with the rest of the lumber in the dark.
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I sawed 3 stock logs about this sized. Re-bucked to 8'6" and had a 4'-6' short left over to cut for bench legs and stock. The logs have been down over a year and a half so the sapwood is very punky but the hearts are sound.
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Kind of hard to see the remaining stock in the dark. I'll stack and sticker it in the morning.
So from earlier in the thread, did anyone identify what causes birds eye ? Rob
Quote from: tule peak timber on June 12, 2019, 09:03:12 AM
So from earlier in the thread, did anyone identify what causes birds eye ? Rob
Unless there are new studies, everything I've ever read states the exact cause of birdseye is not known.
https://www.nrs.fs.fed.us/pubs/rp/rp_nc317.pdf
Thanks.I'm working with some pine right now (Canary Island) that is loaded with birds eye and there is no outward indication looking at the bark.Weird....
Still sawing 8x8's for SIL's pole barn, good news though, he only needs them 22' now and we can do that without the extra monkeying around. ;D
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This knotty log was 26" on the big end and at 22' long was all my mill wanted and more than my tractor wanted, my FEL is rated at 3200 lbs and would only lift it a foot off the ground, had to use ramps to get it high enough to load on the mill.
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A couple logs had bonus materials.
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In addition to 14' and 16' 2x6's, we cut a good bit of various width 2x's 22 feet long, not sure what he's doing with these, cut list has been a little fuzzy.
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Only 2 more to go, should be easy though, these logs are clear, straight and moderately sized.
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Quote from: PA_Walnut on June 10, 2019, 05:00:06 PM
Haven't posted in a while, but been busy. This HUGE rainbow poplar is kinda mind-blowing material.
Slabs are 42-48" wide! Single board bar tops, tables, or islands :o
Have another one, almost 20" larger ! :o Oh, my aching back! :-\ :'(
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Did you hear me say WOW!!!! :o :o That is some mighty fine looking wood!!!!!
Good job you did. Barney67 8)
I'm getting ready to build a cabin. Today I sliced some flooring planks from western juniper.
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Pretty juniper !
That will make a nice floor!
I wish I had some of that for a cabin floor. Mighty nice looking. No juniper around here.
Super cherry. 22" wide boards. Sawed clear all way to the heart. Nice figure and perfect structure.
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I loaded up and left about 6:00 am for a 42.5 mile commute. The client had gotten my info from a flea market visit last year from a friend and neighbor. He turned out to be a retired shop teacher. He met me at the designated rendezvous point and led me up several winding county roads to the site. He suggested setting up a couple hundred yards away and he would bring the logs to me with his neighbors big New Holland tractor. I looked at the site and said it was fine. I pulled in and jacked the lower side wheel up on 3 - 1X6's and we were ready to go. The job consisted of about 15-16 8' hemlock logs for 2X4's. He was agreeable to a a few 2X6's when the flitch would not make 2 - 2X4s and I salvaged about 80 bf of 4/4 side lumber. There was one big red oak that yielded 450 bf of live edge 6/4 and 8/4 slabs up to 20+ inches wide. They fed me lunch and had 5 different neighbors stop by and all but one old man helped. They were a very friendly bunch and really did keep the lumber moving and the neatest slab pile I have seen in years. The lumber was being stacked on a big dump trailer. At the end of the day we were a hot and tired bunch but the customer said he did not remember when he had had enjoyed himself as much. That really makes it worthwhile plus the look on the lady's face when I scraped the sawdust off and wet a wide 6/4 LE slab she had earmarked for counters in her house. I was finished and home with the mill unloaded and unloading equipment by 7:00 pm.
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About 15 Hemlock logs 8' long and 12-20 inches. 3 RO logs from 8-12 long a the butt flare on the big one was about 30" down to 20-22 on the SE.
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All downhill. Just chocked one end and rolled till pointed at the loading arms and rails on the mill and gravity did the rest. Non-loading side of the mill raised 3".
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Loaded on a heavy duty dump trailer. 19 2X4's wide. Days total including the 4/4 side lumber in the far right about 1630 bf. 6 operating hours on the mill. One tank of gas. I think 4 blades including the one where I hit the clamp. One neighbor responded to that as "Wow, 30 seconds to change a blade. That's fast." I had never thought people would recognize the design features like that.
That's really good production there WV
WV, I love days like that!
Good job, Howard. I miss the ease of changing blades on the lt-28 compared to the 50. I feel like I have knocked most of the sharp off of the blades before I get them mounted on the 50.
Quote from: caveman on June 15, 2019, 10:25:36 PMI feel like I have knocked most of the sharp off of the blades before I get them mounted on the 50.
Tru'dat!! :D I appreciate the protective sleeve that WM puts on the carbide blades. I leave it on until I get it on the weeks and tightened a crank or two, then remove it.8)
Opened up a nice maple log
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Wow! Is that bigleaf maple?
redbeard, in the words of the great one (Jackie Gleason), "How sweet it is!"
JACKIE GLEASON - HOW SWEET IT IS - YouTube (https://youtu.be/Vw0TaZhvKes)
Wow, that's some busy maple!
Haven't been able to fire up the mill in a few weeks due to long hours at the day job. Today however, I milled up 2 Western Larch (tamarack) to make some shelves in the shop, so I can get everything off the floor. Then I can start preparing for concrete.
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After the concrete is in, I can start building the apartment.
Looks good @Crossroads (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=33396)
Old spalted half rotten Beech log to get the hang of my new CSM Set- up. Single Live Edge to try to get some Book Matched pieces. I got rained out, and only got one so far....
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OCH,
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Danny,
Is "!" Good?
Oh yes!
Customer needed cookies and some oval ones as well.
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Monday...Somewhere in Northern Illinois....A future dining table begins....
A Future Dining Table begins... - YouTube (https://youtu.be/R2OWesPTUtQ)
This last weeks episode of Friday Fun day, was called silk purse from a sows ear :)
As it was found in the bush
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Old blue dropping it off
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This job was for two 4x8 and one 2x8
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Went up the next day
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@quadracutter222 (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=41095) Very tight rings there! NICE
What type of crane is on your truck?
Brad, I like your sawdust knee pads ;D.
Thanks, it was actually quite soft on the knees. Two weeks earlier I had CSM'd a large Catalpa there. So that dust plus the walnut= nice soft pillow.
Good music selection. I am pretty much convinced I am too old and too fat to do much of that plus I don't have a neat fork lift like that. If you do much of that I'd sure be thinking about a wide mill. Thanks for posting. be careful and stay safe out there.
Wow, that looks like a ton of work Brad, nice looking slabs as a reward though
Brad,
I want to be respectful to your knowledge and experience, as I haven't even finished the first log I've started slabbing yet- so please take this the right way. As innovative as you are, how come you haven't rigged up a winch to help you push (it will pull) the CSM through the log? Watching you wrestle (maybe we should say "Bulldog") that thing through the cut almost gave my >61 year old heart Palpatations!
I rigged up the winch before I started cutting with mine, and after watching you- I'm glad I did.
Steve
My sawing today was a fun couple of hours work. Eight ERC logs.
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That couple of hours included setup and much bull shooting 'cause bulls sometime need shooting. Guess that I was still shooting 'cause I was back at home before I realized that forgot to take a picture of the lumber whack. :-\
@olcowhand (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=37942) , I think this is the 6th or 7th log I've chainsaw milled. One was this size but the rest were bigger. I'm not pushing hard. You can't or you bog the saw down when you're engaging such a long cut surface. You have to temper your pushing to keep your RPMs up. With that said, you do get fatigued with the steady pressure. Actually I just bough the winch from Granberg. I was looking at how to mount it on my mill because I have an older version, not the version they designed it for. I've figured out what I'm going to do though. I need to order two of those extruded aluminum rails and mount them to the front and rear of my mill. That would allow mounting of the winch as designed. I'm going to test the winch mind you. I'm not sure if it will be worth the trouble. It's an extra thing to attach to the log, and I'm guessing you have to move it at least once as you move down the log as you're removing slabs? On this particular log, once I got down to a point where the remaining log was about 24" wide or so, I took it and put it on the band saw and cut the remaining two slabs. I flipped it round side up, measured and went to cut the waste slab off and Zing Zing! I cut through two huge nails. Better a band than the chainsaw chain. I dug them out, put a new band on, and made the final cut. Whenever I get to test the winch, I'll post pics or a video and tell how it went. It will probably be at least a few months though. I don't have anymore logs that I need to use the CSM on here at home. I do have a 42" Ash log at another farm up on bunks waiting for me slab it. Not sure when I'm going to do it.
Quote from: Brad_bb on June 19, 2019, 12:21:05 AM
Monday...Somewhere in Northern Illinois....A future dining table begins....
A Future Dining Table begins... - YouTube (https://youtu.be/R2OWesPTUtQ)
Love that great old forklift.
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on June 15, 2019, 09:14:37 PM
I loaded up and left about 6:00 am for a 42.5 mile commute. The client had gotten my info from a flea market visit last year from a friend and neighbor. He turned out to be a retired shop teacher. He met me at the designated rendezvous point and led me up several winding county roads to the site. He suggested setting up a couple hundred yards away and he would bring the logs to me with his neighbors big New Holland tractor. I looked at the site and said it was fine. I pulled in and jacked the lower side wheel up on 3 - 1X6's and we were ready to go. The job consisted of about 15-16 8' hemlock logs for 2X4's. He was agreeable to a a few 2X6's when the flitch would not make 2 - 2X4s and I salvaged about 80 bf of 4/4 side lumber. There was one big red oak that yielded 450 bf of live edge 6/4 and 8/4 slabs up to 20+ inches wide. They fed me lunch and had 5 different neighbors stop by and all but one old man helped. They were a very friendly bunch and really did keep the lumber moving and the neatest slab pile I have seen in years. The lumber was being stacked on a big dump trailer. At the end of the day we were a hot and tired bunch but the customer said he did not remember when he had had enjoyed himself as much. That really makes it worthwhile plus the look on the lady's face when I scraped the sawdust off and wet a wide 6/4 LE slab she had earmarked for counters in her house. I was finished and home with the mill unloaded and unloading equipment by 7:00 pm.
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About 15 Hemlock logs 8' long and 12-20 inches. 3 RO logs from 8-12 long a the butt flare on the big one was about 30" down to 20-22 on the SE.
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All downhill. Just chocked one end and rolled till pointed at the loading arms and rails on the mill and gravity did the rest. Non-loading side of the mill raised 3".
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Loaded on a heavy duty dump trailer. 19 2X4's wide. Days total including the 4/4 side lumber in the far right about 1630 bf. 6 operating hours on the mill. One tank of gas. I think 4 blades including the one where I hit the clamp. One neighbor responded to that as "Wow, 30 seconds to change a blade. That's fast." I had never thought people would recognize the design features like that.
That is a good days work.
Thanks Rich. We all had a good time.
When we loaded up we found one of the set screws on he shaft for the blade guide adjustment had vibrated out. We found the screw and jam nut. When I got home I replaced the set screw and a couple others.The one in the shaft are 1-1/4" while the ones in the rear are 3/4" but same diameter and same thread so I just order the longer ones. This gives me more to hold and work with and thread the jam not on. I finally got everything back on and both rollers alligned to the WM specs. Today I decided to run a test log through before I go to one of my backlog jobs waiting for favorable weather. I grabbed an 8' maple about 14-15 inches SE and loaded it on the mill. There was a big split down the middle possibly from a poor bucking job. (We won't discuss who bucked it BTW). I cut off a slab and one 4/4 board, flipped the cant and set it to 10" and started cutting the slab off when about 1/3 of the way down it dived then rose and dove again. I went back and got another brand new 4 degree DH and tried it. No problem so evidently I had hit a rock or mud and dulled that first blade. I rotated the cant and cut 4/4 boards 9" wide. I probably lost at least 1/4 of the log due to the huge heart check/split. I ended up with 7-8" wide boards. The color and splits reminded me a lot of hickory but I am a lot more confident my mill and repairs are correct and ready to travel again.
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8' maple log from tree that uprooted in an ice storm last November.
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Nasty split in the end of the log. As we used to say in the land of the camel jockeys "Mafi quais" (Not good).
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A lot of waste but 7 pretty good looking 1X8's and the end of the job.
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Next week we will saw most of this trailer of cedar. Most of it 20' and about 16" on small end.
Also some pine to be cut, pretty darn heavy at 20'.
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In northern VA we don't get much pine like this nice Lob Pine so I cut a trailer for fun. Wish I could have afforded to ship 5 trailers but shipping is a bit much 100 miles from my farm.
Nice looking cedar sticks !
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Any guess on the species of these slabs? ;D
I do not know but wonder about red maple. and closer bark pics.
Maple eh Doc? :D
I looks like maple I cut yesterday but I have some basswood that also looks like it as does hickory. I'd say one of those 3.
Quote from: doc henderson on June 20, 2019, 03:17:54 PM
I do not know but wonder about red maple. and closer bark pics.
Doesn't look like the red maple I cut ???
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I see a branch with defect near this, so maple with some damage to the heart wood. I have some maple that cut up like that. :o ::) :D. I started with I do not know!! 8)
The wood says Hickory or Gum to me, the bark more Hickory ish.
Nothing like that grows on Oregon's high desert.
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I'm actually not 100% sure myself but I think it's a hard elm.... rock or red? It's pretty heavy and hard. Cut off this crotch as there was a bad bend in the tree the way it laid out. Thinking I might use them as table legs possibly?
Yes, it is elm. If the top of the leaf surface is very sand-papery rough, it is slippery elm also called red elm. If the top of the leaf is smooth, it is american elm.
A private golf course in the middle of Toronto. they are pulling out the logs as I wait. I like an Hourly rate 8)
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Is that Ash? I've sawed Ash from a golf course. Beware balls in crotches! I sawed through one.
Brad, I'm gonna refrain from sayin' anything about your post, but a lotta things come to mind . . .
Quote from: Brad_bb on June 21, 2019, 08:00:25 PM
Is that Ash? I've sawed Ash from a golf course. Beware balls in crotches! I sawed through one.
But isn't that where you would expect to find them? I know that is where I keep mine.
Quote from: btulloh on June 21, 2019, 08:24:53 PM
Brad, I'm gonna refrain from sayin' anything about your post, but a lotta things come to mind . . .
Glad I wasn't the only one who winced!
Quote from: Brad_bb on June 19, 2019, 12:21:05 AM
Monday...Somewhere in Northern Illinois....A future dining table begins....
A Future Dining Table begins... - YouTube (https://youtu.be/R2OWesPTUtQ)
Brad,
That's hardcore sawing there. Nice log and nice looking product coming off that chainsaw mill.
Quote from: Magicman on June 19, 2019, 04:46:47 PM
My sawing today was a fun couple of hours work. Eight ERC logs.
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That couple of hours included setup and much bull shooting 'cause bulls sometime need shooting. Guess that I was still shooting 'cause I was back at home before I realized that forgot to take a picture of the lumber whack. :-\
I always enjoy sawing ERC, never know what's going to be on the inside.
I hated that I forgot to take a picture 'cause this was some unusually pretty stuff. It's going to a woodworker in the Dallas, TX area.
Here, I found a picture of one of them:
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Slabbing Black Oak with Whidbey Island Woodworks and Custom Milling! My son flies for the Navy and is stationed at Whidbey Island Naval Air Station in Wa. Each time my wife and I fly down for a visit I get to visit with Jeff and Kelly aka "Redbeard". This time Jeff grabbed a gnarly Black Oak log and slabbed it on his big Hudson slabber. It was a beautiful log. He also demonstrated his Slide Hammer Slab Separator which he helped design with a friend. Jeff has created an incredible business selling large slabs of every type of wood on the island in addition to doing custom milling. The workflow stations he has created are well designed and something I hope to add to my milling endeavors. Thanks Jeff and Kelly for an awesome time, I look forward to the next visit!
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Big gnarly black oak log...
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Slide Hammer Slab Separator at work!
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Work flow...
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Cedar beams and fence posts. We had incredible taper on this one, sawed 12 12" wide boards and quite a pile of batten and other things. Lots of mouse holes in these big old cedar, a bit disappointing
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We have 3000 bdft to saw but yield is so so and our sawyers blade was diving so much he stopped to take the mill home to adjust, not a great day. Yesterday we quartered/halfed etc a bunch of larger tops and branches. Got about 300 posts plus some locust and I consider that a decent day. Posts get sold to organic farms.
A question for all @Magicman (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=10011) and other cedar sawyers. I've got a sawyer that seems to know what his is doing. However, his blade keeps diving on this cedar. So much that we stopped sawing so he could take the mill to Marty. Is this a common issue? We cut this large cants in half and then start pulling boards and darned if his blade isn't diving when he is cutting a cant apart (12x6 into two 6x6" for example). It's diving cutting 1" boards off the cants too.
Had one of those days. A repeat customer 44 miles away has been pushing me to come saw and today was first prediction for a whole day with little chance of rain so I called and he said come on up. I told him I'd be there about 7:00 am then he called last night about 9:00 pm and said hold off till 8:00 am as he had air up a tire on his loader and get his helper. He asked if I could get a helper and I told him not that late in the day. I arrived on time and he pulled in right behind me about 7:50 or so with his 18-19 y/o grandson who was a decent helper. His loader would not start and they had to leave it hooked to his truck with undersized jumper cables nearly an hour before it started. He is a real good guy, a veteran who had had a broken back and walks humped over so he gets special treatment and consideration. He had several big white pine logs and showed up with his trailer and a small hemlock and some near rotten pine we cut for stickers and 4x4s to stack on. When he moved the second log we found a baseball sized hornet nest on the underside. I splashed a cup of gas on it. I sawed 3.8 hours on the mill having to do some serious whittling to get the logs down to size. It was mostly 3/4" sheeting with a few 4X4s out of the small scrappy stuff and a few 2X4s at the end. My feed system failed and I had to tighten my chain which had sagged a good 6". Turns out the sprocket on the weldment was chewed up and would not run on the chain so I finished the last 8" wide cant, several very wide cants and a 4" cant for 2X4's by manual feed. It was very hot and I nearly overdid it. Final results was about 500 bf/sq ft (I count my 3/4 cuts same as my 4/4 and always advise my customers accordingly - this one knew and agreed up front so no hassle). I got home and unhooked took the feed system apart and will order the shaft and associated bearings from WM in the morning. The bearings seem to be working fine but too cheap not to replace while I am in there IMHO. I have other commitments all next week so it will be later than that. My customer and I are both doing hay tomorrow anyway.
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Loader charging, my truck still hooked up waiting to go there, and a butt log an inch or so bigger than my max specs for my mill. I did learn about overhanging the no-loader side which was a real good thing to learn!
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More logs in the weeds waiting.
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Second log is well protected, well they were. I used environmentally friendly gasoline with up to 10% ethanol so it should be fine.
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Damaged part - weldment shaft with sprocket and one of the bearings still attached. The chewed up sprocket runs on the chain.
Some days anyone can be the "bug on the windshield" and I am lenient when customers have those days. Things always seem to eventually even out for both the customer and me.
I agree to go ahead and do a complete rebuild while you have that power feed apart. Never ever over-tension the chain or you will surely blow the bearings out.
Quote from: nativewolf on June 26, 2019, 07:59:54 PMA question for all ....... and other cedar sawyers
My first question is whether it was clear ERC logs or whether it was a knotty seasoned logs? On a properly tuned sawmill, sharp blades should not dive but seasoned knots will "knot wave" with a dull/dulling blade. It would not seem so but ERC contains silica and is very abrasive to saw blades.
I am guessing that the blade was hot when it was diving. 4°, 7°, or 10° should not matter with ERC.
Diving was worse around knots but this was green ERC, just cut last week and these are big logs, some 30" at the large end. Several cants could have been 20' and 12" square. He changed blades, had some tension issues, took home to adjust...didn't work and finally he just stopped as it was getting frustrating cutting such big cedar into wavy boards. There were occasionally hard knots in the cants, that I could see causing an issue but it was often just in middle of board or in a large green knot. Sigh.
Just thought I'd ask since you saw so much cedar. He's got to teach a few classes and can't return until the 22nd so it is a real bummer. I was counting on quite a bit more getting done than actually happened in 3 days of work. He changed blades many many times so I can't think that was the issue, turbo 7 is his blade of choice.
I'll be curious to hear what Marty and his team do to the mill.
I will too because green/fresh logs should not wave. Drive belt loose/slipping.
Your sawyers mill won't see Marty till next week.
He's on vacation till Thursday then delivering some guys new mill to NH :D
Quote from: Bruno of NH on June 26, 2019, 09:35:40 PM
Your sawyers mill won't see Marty till next week.
He's on vacation till Thursday then delivering some guys new mill to NH :D
Yeah...so you're the cause of my delay this week 8) Congrats
Quote from: Magicman on June 26, 2019, 09:09:51 PM
I will too because green/fresh logs should not wave. Drive belt loose/slipping.
We'll find out next week it looks like. Someone is getting a mill delivered first , congrats to Bruno.
Cedar is about the easiest wood there is to saw, aside from the taper and bark that can clog up the chute. He has something going on with the mill or the set on the bands.
Been busy, got a lot of catch up reading to do I see.
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Beer o'clock today, still a whack of this log to go, and the best part of him is still to come. Put a straight edge on 'em.... I'm carrying 1/16" deflection over 5 foot wide slabs. Not too bad for a guy who only cuts lumber and stays away from this live edge gig.... I dunno what im doing right, and i'm a bit concerned that when I have to roll the slabber bar I'll never get it dialled in this good again. Worry about that when we get to it I guess.
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Wacked up a walnut log today. Actually two from the same tree. 30" butt. Got a couple 2" boards as well. Bottom rows are 20" and then we went to 15" wide. Hopefully we can get some weight on them and get them to stay flat. Pretty clear lumber to boot. My wife played tailgunner and stacked/stickered it. Fun change of pace as we've been slabbing a lot lately.
That is what I call doing it right, Sir.
Yup, very nice walnut!
Well having a BD for my MIL and her twin sister. combined they are 150 years old. My wife wants a few upgrades to our home and of course has offered to help! :o . We plan on being at the pig roast so let me introduce my wife Georgia.
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sanding some ERC to put up one the ceiling of our front porch. sanding away in the AC in the shop.
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a few of the 16 half inch thick, by 8" x 11 feet long for panels on the porch ceiling. now with spar urethan rolled on by paint roller.
To Busenitzcww, Is that an electric motor on your mill? If it is, What is the HP and how do you like it.
Hi Georgia, and welcome. smiley_wavy
Doc,
Is Georgia visually impaired? She looks too attractive to be married to an old coot like you. :D Tell her we all say hi.
Quote from: muggs on June 29, 2019, 06:53:49 PM
To Busenitzcww, Is that an electric motor on your mill? If it is, What is the HP and how do you like it.
Yup, it's a 3phs 10hp. I've only had it around 2 months but so far I've really been impressed. I've maxed the cut width out several times and it seems to do alright. Gotta slow down feed speed anyways or the cut starts getting wavy. Kinda thought about putting a 15hp on it but we'll see. I also like how quiet it is compared to an engine. I still wear earplugs but at least you don't have to shout at your help! Lol
@busenitzcww (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=43952) @farmfromkansas (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=36643) @Tom the Sawyer (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=9572) , nice to see a few from Ks on the forum.
Been raining maple...which I do NOT like to saw when it's 100° and 100%, but gotta get it when you can.
Fans, fans and some more fans. :o
Large, wide curly soft with excellent figure.
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45" wide Ambrosia with excellent markings and color throughout!
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that's nice!
Awesome PA. That will make someone loosen their "purse strings". :)
Maybe it's hot, but at least you are sawing. I am "booked" solid until the end of August and that's my story and I'm sticking with it. Some customers aren't too happy to wait that long for their sawing but I just tell them that I am booked up. :-X
"Booked" but not booked sawing. Booked Traveling. move_it
I thought Ambrosia maple just meant it's spalted? That looks more like red maple? Can somebody explain exactly what that is? I've never had any maple to speak of except one red maple cant I got from a guy that I re-sawed.
Ambrosia wood is from a tree infected with ambrosia beetles. The coloring around the beetle holes is a reaction with the ambrosia fungus causing the streaks. Most often found in soft maple grown in swampy areas.
Spalted is a stage of decay. Leave a healthy maple on the ground, shaded and moist and you will get spalting. There are recipes on the net for woodworkers to spalt their own lumber in the wood shop. The trick is to catch the wood in the stage after it starts to rot, but before it gets punky and to far gone.
I once wrapped a small block of green maple in a plastic bag with beer, oak leaves, and horse manure. after a few weeks I cleaned it off and turned it on a lathe. It had spalted ok. The black "pencil" outline of the spalting showing pretty good.
BTW- Ambrosia is almost always soft maple. Spalting can appear in most any type of wood to some degree. Whiter woods tend to show the color changes better.
Independence day live edge pine. In the 90's here today.
I'm taking tyvek labels and putting the sizes on them then tacking on the ends.
I like the turbo 7° for pine boards and framing lumber but the finish is to rough for my slabs.
Folks always say mine are smoother than other folks make.
Placed an order for some 4° bands and one Ripper 37 in 7° like I used on the old mill to try.
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Had the in-laws over for the 4th, on the 3rd.... anyways they wanted to see the mill in action so I threw a walnut log on. Found this inside..... kinda like the bigger figure you'd see in redwood? Only drawback is it was a 7' log, but I'll still take it. :)
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I threw a walnut log on. Found this inside.....
That is one nice piece of lumber.
Normally, ambrosia beetles, which are very common, attack weak, dying, or just dead trees so that they can overcome the tree's defenses. For some reason, they have discovered the formula for attacking living, healthy red maples. Because the streaks are associated with the ambrosia beetle, the resulting lumber is called ambrosia maple. Many times the figure shows up on the cut end of a log so that you know that there will be some ambrosia streaks in the lumber.
Here is a red maple log on the left showing the ambrosia streaks. This log is fresh cut, so no spalting.
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We used to cut loads of lumber specified "WHND" Worm Holes No Defect. Where the buyer was looking for ambrosia. They would even go as far as drilling holes in the streaks if no hole was present.
Normally if we were cutting a load of soft maple and a wormy log got mixed in, the resulting ambrosia lumber went into the pallet stock pile. (could not save it for WHND, as we never knew when a buyer would order a load of WHND.) It is considered a defect in hardwood grading.
My business is based on cutting defective wood.The pics on this thread are breathtaking......... 8)
Some of my defective wood sells the best and brings in the most ching.
3 years ago I had some old growth white pine tightest rings I have ever seen 40" to 50".
Milled it to 8/4 not a knot in it. Couldn't give it away.
Had to figure what will sell.
Thanks to all for explaining the Ambrosia maple. I look for it and have a pretty consistent source for the most crazy of it.
As mentioned, most big production mills don't want it. I do.
Some with SPECTACULAR curl.
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Some is SUPER intense!
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Some is BLISTERED and wormy.
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AS WDH said, you can see it in the log, usually.
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Almost as fun to saw as curly/fiddleback logs! ;D 8)
Furniture and cabinet guys should be jumping all over that beautiful wood !
Thanks Tule. Summer sales are slow for me. Need to revise my marketing plan. ;D :D
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Thanks Tule. Summer sales are slow for me. Need to revise my marketing plan. ;D :D
Check freight rates to Tule Peak, CA.
Wednesday, I cut a 6x8x16 out of the middle of a 20" diameter white pine log:
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This is a post that will hold up some solar panels on a free standing timber frame.
On my way to the center of the log, I made a bunch of 1" siding boards for my other customer's timber frame shed project:
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Today, I'll be edging this pile to standard widths.
Jim Rogers
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You can turn them too. A- maple. ;D
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Thanks Tule. Summer sales are slow for me. Need to revise my marketing plan. ;D :D
Check freight rates to Tule Peak, CA.
Road Trip!
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Check freight rates to Tule Peak, CA.
If your sending a truck from PA to CA, have him stop in WI. I've got some wood I need to sell too. :D
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Check freight rates to Tule Peak, CA.
If your sending a truck from PA to CA, have him stop in WI. I've got some wood I need to sell too. :D
@mike_belben (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=33722) I guess I'm stimulating the economy all around...seems like these gentlemen have a business proposition for you :D
Finished my first customer job. 1340 bf of pine and hemlock all sheeting. Took 14 hours of saw time and 3 weeks to complete due to health but I got it done and customer was happy. He said it didn't matter how long it took.
Excellent job!! We have all had those jobs, matter of fact I filled an order today that too too long to get done so I discounted it, it's the happy customer in the end that matters.
Quote from: Lko67 on July 06, 2019, 08:17:02 PM
Finished my first customer job. 1340 bf of pine and hemlock all sheeting. Took 14 hours of saw time and 3 weeks to complete due to health but I got it done and customer was happy. He said it didn't matter how long it took.
Way to go!
Lumber to california is pretty much a double whammy of hell no.
Leaving every sawing customer happy is a sure fire way to build up a customer base. If you are making $$$ while doing so it is a sure fire way of developing a sawing business.
All I ever get is Ambrosia sycamore, and basswood.
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Last summer I had a crooked walnut log. Had a couple of guys wanting bowl blanks so I cut it up for them and kept a few blanks for myself. It was filled with ambrosia and the bowls looked like Peter's, only walnut.
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Lumber to california is pretty much a double whammy of hell no.
Unless its old barn wood years agao I was in a bay area lumber yard with a load of lumber and a guy pulled in with a load of old barn wood thy told me his load was worth 5x my load I told him at home we just burn the old barns well he made a mess in his pants and was crying when I left :o
On my 4 day weekend the woods finally dried up enough that I could get the logs out of the woods that I cut awhile back! I borrowed a friend's skid steer and grapple since dad had the tractor occupied. That skid steer is a tank! The biggest log was this 24" small end, 11' log and I could lift it about 4' high which was needed to get it out of the woods. I give a big kudos to you all who work in the south with this heat all the time. It was 90-95° and humid heck. I cut all the maple by myself then dad helped me load it in the kiln, about 600 bf including the LE slabs, about 9 hours of busting my butt including some maintenance on the mill before I started.
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Here's all of the logs, 4 red Maple @ 10'-6" and 2 Beech @ 11'-6"
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Then on the 6th I sawed the maple up and got it in the kiln because I am waiting on it to be able to finish the bedroom suite that I posted about in General Woodworking. This stuff is beautiful!
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Pictures can't capture the character is this stuff, it looks like flames.
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good lookin stuff DWyatt. keep working in the heat and at your age, you should acclimate. are you getting good air movement. the stack is close to the wall. you have great looking material there.
Quote from: doc henderson on July 08, 2019, 09:37:45 AM
good lookin stuff DWyatt. keep working in the heat and at your age, you should acclimate. are you getting good air movement. the stack is close to the wall. you have great looking material there.
I used to be real good at working in the heat, the office job hinders that though. I only get evenings and weekends to work outside. Yes, the stack is close to the wall, about 8" off the wall. with the 2 fans on the nyle and 2 extra fans there is enough air movement. This will be the last load run through this kiln, Dad and I are building a new one that will load from the side so we can use the tractor to load. Gramps built this kiln before I was born and it has dried 100s of loads, but it is getting tired and with the nyle unit it is plenty tight.
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A mesquite log that has been laying around here for at lease 7 years
welcome MIT. should be great for special projects. that curve will work great for benches ect.
Thanks, but this is going to be straightened out for edging on my kitchen cabinet project!
what are the dimensions? (in the pic, I was guessing slabs) should be good looking cabinets.
These slabs are 7'4" long by 12 wide by 1-1/8 thick.
I think they will be some really unique and beautiful cabinets.
Tough cutting though, the log has been down in the dirt and really dulls a blade fast.
I am brand new to milling and have a tendency to push my blades way to far before I swap out for a sharp one.
First off: Welcome and Happy birthday MikeInTexas.
Back to normal business - I got out and sawed up a scrappy, sweepy maple log into 4/4 stock as a test of my recent repairs to my power feed. All seems to be working normally so I will return to Bolt (Little Jimmy Dickens hometown) 44 miles away and finish my pine order there tomorrow.
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Not the world's prettiest log is it?
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A whopping 41 bf including a wedgy (I wonder if WM ever thought about adding a flashing light showing a toeboard is up :D) 1X10 and a 1/2"X 6" X 8' trim cut - actually I am sure I will find a use for that one.
Nice!
Ambrosia maple. This is the second 10' log in the tree. The butt log is really nice.
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Sawed this log into 9/4 live edge slabs. This one had the old girl maxed out. Outboard blade guide was kissing the edge of the log. Could not have been 1 millimeter wider.
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Really hot and humid, so gray stain is a real issue. Quit for the day and applied a concert of fans to provide some companionship and ventilation through the humid night.
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Danny,
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Doug Fir 1-2 5/8x12x16, 2-2 5/8x10x16, 1-2x8x16. For a dock approach. Nothing dramatic, just testing the photo sharing process.
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Haven't sawed it yet. Started raining on me yesterday when I got it loaded. The top half is still in the woods.
Nice Lee, is that a 20'?
Stacking 8x8's and 4x6's for the next timber frame project. Pine and hemlock. Got some Wane on some of them, but he always shows up for my projects, I like the character it adds. Generally timbers are extra long and I get most of it off, if its bad they turn into verticals or more lumber eventually. My Little helper thinks the sawdust pile is a nice cool spot to lay on the hot days.
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Wane is always welcome at my projects as long as he doesn't cost me too much.
Quote from: Magicman on July 09, 2019, 01:44:07 PM
Nice Lee, is that a 20'?
Yes sir, it is. S
awed out 8- 2x8 x 20ft, 2 - 2x8 x 16 ft, 2 - 2x6 x 20 ft, 1 - 2x4 x 20 ft, and 1 - 2x4 x 10 ft.
Loaded up yesterday and left for Bolt WV 4 miles away about 0630 and finished about 2000 tonight. We sawed pine with a few maple logs from a large maple tree on site. It was hot and I am a worn out puppy dog. Most were sawed into 3/4" X 8" X 8' with anything that would not make an 8" cant we sawed into 3" battens. One big 14' butt log we sawed into dimensional framing 2"X4"/1.5"/3.5" and 2"X6"/1.5" X 5.5" and we got about 420 bf from that one log. The maple we sawed into 5/4 and got nearly 400 bf out of 3 maple logs.
The repairs to the power feed held up well with 7.1 operating hours today alone with a 242 bf/hr average for 1719 bf for the day plus 800 bf I sawed on the same job 26 June before my power feed went out. No wonder I am worn out.
When I was done I was too tired to take pictures. We had 400-500 bf stacks of assorted lumber scattered all over the area. It was a repeat customer and we had a very good time.
That sounded like a very successful sawing day, congrats!!
Yes it was. It was so hot my helper, my customer's son, scarfed down a hamburger for lunch too quickly then got sick on me. Towards the end of the day we finally got some shade and a cool breeze but the morning and middle of the day were rough. I am too old for this kind of work. My helper did pull up pictures on his phone of where he had redone his house (walls and ceiling) with the wood we cut last time and he was real happy with it. That is the best pay IMHO for this kind of work. Cash is good too but probably second to customer appreciation.
I am/was thankful that I was not sawing here yesterday. The thermometer hit 99°, so I succeeded in doing absolutely nothing.
I have developed a new scientific formula: Age (75) + hot (85°) or - cold (35°) = Misery. :-X
75 + 85 = 160 75 - 35 = 40 So any number above 160 or below 40 exceeds my misery index and indicates no sawing.
so at age 100 you will only work if it is 60? 100 + 60 = 160 and 100 - 60 = 40. I guess at that age you have earned the right to only work when you want!!! 8) 8) 8) :D :D :D :) :) :). something tells me you will just change you formula.
Yes, it is a formula that will be closely regulated and annually adjusted by the Index Board of which I am the Chairman. ;D
It's been miserable hot and humid here too. I was wondering if there would be a way to add on an A/C to my mill in place of the debarker. :D
Things got off to a good start then the rain set in again and my new helper dont like rain
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This is Mosquitoe
@Southside (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24297) can you put a big fan on the debarker motor. As @Magicman (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=10011) might say, looks like @goose63 (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=23477) has debarker on da wood. i think they make an inverter to convert dc to ac! :D will that help you out? then just get a small unit from WM to blow on you face! :)
Lynn,
Are you sure you didn't get that from the ServSafe food managers course? They say keep hot foods at 160 degrees or more and cold foods at temps of 40 or lower. Sounds pretty close to your numbers.
Doc,
IRT 100 y/o's we did just go by and visited our 100 year old neighbor in the nursing home. He looked much better than the last time we saw him. Until October when he had his blood clots he was driving, baling hay and keeping up with everything going on in he community. H is probably the last surviving WWII veteran in our county. His mind is still clear and he can tell you about driving a truck load of medical supplies across the Burma Road when they first opened it.
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on July 09, 2019, 11:40:33 PM
Loaded up yesterday and left for Bolt WV 4 miles away about 0630 and finished about 2000 tonight. We sawed pine with a few maple logs from a large maple tree on site. It was hot and I am a worn out puppy dog. Most were sawed into 3/4" X 8" X 8' with anything that would not make an 8" cant we sawed into 3" battens. One big 14' butt log we sawed into dimensional framing 2"X4"/1.5"/3.5" and 2"X6"/1.5" X 5.5" and we got about 420 bf from that one log. The maple we sawed into 5/4 and got nearly 400 bf out of 3 maple logs.
The repairs to the power feed held up well with 7.1 operating hours today alone with a 242 bf/hr average for 1719 bf for the day plus 800 bf I sawed on the same job 26 June before my power feed went out. No wonder I am worn out.
When I was done I was too tired to take pictures. We had 400-500 bf stacks of assorted lumber scattered all over the area. It was a repeat customer and we had a very good time.
That's a long day. you could teach some young'ens how to put in a good day. I have always felt best when I go to bed tired. I had a Uncle who worked hard and ran equipment up to his 80's.
Quote from: doc henderson on July 10, 2019, 12:14:03 PM
As @Magicman (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=10011) might say, looks like @goose63 (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=23477) has debarker on da wood.
Oh that's bad! Such bad jokes should get you a night in the woodshed!
@Brad_bb (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=6191) only if my wife starts reading the forum. ;)
Rich,
I see I was so tired when I typed my note I wrote 4 miles to Bolt. It is actually 44 miles. Yes, it is hard to get young folks to work like that. I had a 30 y/o nephew "helping" me get hay on a visit a couple years ago and he gave out and went and got back in the truck with the A/C while I worked alone to finish. My helper was good yesterday but he did eat too fast so he could get back to me while I was sawing. He was nearly done before I noticed his meal was even there or I'd have stopped a few minutes for him to eat. Between the heat and humidity and hard work it did him in. I got hay last week and had a couple of brothers about 14 & 16 to help load and stack and got their older sister to drive the truck in the field. They all did real well and were all happy when payday came but I bet nobody had to rock them to bed that night.
No matter how old or how good of shape you are in you need to be careful in this kind of heat.
Finally got started milling some of the walnut I've had laying around for quite a while. I've been sidetracked remodeling my house for the last year (and it's still not done).
Started with a pile of 8-9 ft. smallish logs. I've got about half of the small log pile done but what I've got cut is probably not much more that 10% of the total I've got....gonna take me a while.
On top of that I've got a bunch of ash that needs taking down before it starts dying out. There were 3 downed trees that had fallen in the last year so I cut 5 logs out of them just to see what they're like. I've not sawed any ash before. The one on the mill sawed up pretty good, and the ash tends to be pretty straight....something I'm not used to.
I'm thinking I might use the dozer to take down most of the ash rather that chainsaw it. There's a row of hedge along the outside of the grove of trees that needs pushing out to get good access to the ash and I'd like the stumps out anyway.
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D6c,
If you do use a bulldozer to take down the ash trees you might consider using a cable and pulling them instead of pushing them over unless you are very certain they are still alive and sturdy. I have had them get brittle and snap in the middle and when they do they can fall back on you
Overcup Oak. Thanks @WDH (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370) for the tree ID.
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Looking good, Lance!
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on July 10, 2019, 08:04:44 PM
D6c,
If you do use a bulldozer to take down the ash trees you might consider using a cable and pulling them instead of pushing them over unless you are very certain they are still alive and sturdy. I have had them get brittle and snap in the middle and when they do they can fall back on you
They're still in good shape... we're just beginning to see the effects of EAB.
I've got a good brush canopy on the dozer but would still be leary of standing dead trees.... excavator would be a better tool for them.
Speaking from personal experience anything that does not have a forestry cab on it is sketchy. A regular excavator cab is just a light cover to keep the rain off, it does not give you any FOPS protection, I know, I own a 26 ton Kobelco. In contrast my Fellerbuncher has a FOPS / ROPS rated cab at something like 52,000 lbs. Even with that in place a previous owner dropped something onto her that bent the plating which covers the engine bay. You can't be too cautious around those EAB damaged ash. They don't look like they are dying until they have been under attack for a couple of years and are already compromised.
Milling cedar on the new harbor freight mill.
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Looks like you have pulled a sly one on us with the new sawmill. 8)
Kwill,
I've often wondered how well those Mills work.... What say you?
Steve
Didn't really saw it yet but on my way back from the dentist today I stopped by to talk with a guy about a cherry tree he reported down in his back yard about 25 miles from my home. One of those typical "Would you be interested in sawing on shares" and I had told him if he'd bring it here I could accommodate and he was considering that. I promised to help by stopping by and discussing where to buck the tree into log lengths the next time was passing his area and I promised to bring him some anchorseal to help reduce checking. I got there a little early and the "customer" was not there but I talked briefly to his next door neighbor in his back yard. I spotted 2 uprooted trees and walked down to check them out and found about the prettiest wild/black cherry I have ever seen. One was a double maybe 16" on each section at the stump but the other was over 22" at the stump. The first log on it would be a full 14' and the second another pretty 10' log with good wood still available for another 20-30 ft. Someone had started cutting the tops and limbs into firewood lengths but had not yet reached any that would make good saw lumber. I was expecting a 12-14 inch diameter tree with maybe a couple of 10' logs and only took a quart of anchoreseal. I marked the spot below which I would not cut for firewood but save for sawing. The double has a couple of sharp curves aching to become live edge primitive benches. The customer came back and I agreed to come back and buck the logs then bring the mill and cut an assortment of boards and LE slabs. The customer showed me a table, bed and night table he had built so he is what I consider an accomplished woodworker but he does not have a chainsaw big enough to cut this tree or MHE to move it. I will take my chainsaw and maybe even my ATV over to saw and move logs to a landing then come saw them. Right now I have visions of 18" finished black cherry boards dancing in my dreams. I did not think to take my camera but will get pictures on my next trip. I'd love to take JD750 with FEL or even my log arch but that would mean borrowing a bigger trailer and more trips and getting more invested in this project than just a little time, fuel and equipment expenses which are relatively minimal.
Quote from: Magicman on July 11, 2019, 04:55:25 PM
Looks like you have pulled a sly one on us with the new sawmill. 8)
Yes sir a deal came along I could not pass up. It's nice to have a mill that works correctly and I'm not fighting.
Quote from: olcowhand on July 11, 2019, 05:11:02 PM
Kwill,
I've often wondered how well those Mills work.... What say you?
Steve
I've only sawed 2 logs with it but I gotta say for a lower priced mill it works nice. I mean it's no woodmizer but it cuts nice boards and for the steal of a price I got on it I couldn't pass it up. I have it temporarily setting on Jeff's favorite boat trailer but I will be building a new trailer and extending the track so I can cut 20ft boards no problem.
Good for you. 8) 8) All band mill cut the same. It just how fast you want to cut is all. Faster means more money. have fun,
Coming the new mill kwill
I went over and spent the middle of the day bucking and staging the cherry logs I mentioned previously. They were too big for the clients saw. I used my ATV to drag all but 3 of the logs to a landing. I can get the mill right next to them. The big log, 24"+ X 13', I pulled part way with my truck and a long 1/4" cable but attempted a second pull with a different cable and broke about 6' off the end at the log. I will move the last 3 logs later when it is cooler and I am not so tired - may be the day I come to saw them.
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Here are all but 3 of the logs - from 4' - 8'.
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Here is the big cable killing log - about 10' below the stack and 90 degree to it. The stump in the background is from the other logs. About 30 minutes after I cut the last log off it it just suddenly stood back up with it's clay root. It has already been cut nearly all the way through and I will like finish and cut some 4' boards off it.
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The other 2 logs off the big tree still to be moved into place. A 10' X 22" and a 5'X 22" one. No time set to saw them. I need to get a place ready here as I am cutting these on shares.
If you have not already, you best anchorseal them pronto. Cherry is one of the worst about cracking and splitting.
Danny,
That was one of the reasons I cut them myself so I could anchorseal them promptly and thoroughly. I had brought a quart of it yesterday to leave witht he customer then I saw the size of the uprooted trees and knew it would take a lot more. I just about used all that was left in my 5 gallon bucket except the quart left over. I also find cherry and ash are about the worst about checking so at the same time I unload my chainsaw I break out the anchorseal. There were 3 stems and I'd anchorseal the resulting logs off each stem before I started the next one.
One of the stems looked like it had some ring/wind shake. I have experienced that in hemlock but do not remember seeing it in cherry before. We will see what we get out of those logs.
Howard,
I got some red maple logs today and one of them had that shake. First time that I have seen that in maple. You can see it on the third log from the left with a lot of heartwood.
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This log was 17' long and when I got home I cut it into two 8' 6" logs and that shake was present there too.
Piece of crooked green ash, was going to become firewood. Turned into two inch slabs. Morning sunlight and a heavy dew made it look really good. Too pretty to burn.
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John and I sawed up a few small pieces of American Holly this morning from a small tree that was in the backyard of my folks' place in NC. I cut the tree down on Thursday and we sawed it this morning and applied anchorseal to the ends. I assume that as humid as it is here we should run fans on it for several days to have any chance of retaining the white color - any other suggestions?
The holly that we did not saw I considered cutting into short lengths, sealing the ends and putting in a paper bag with some sawdust with the idea that it may be good to turn on a lathe. Should I peel the bark first?
Thanks,
Kyle
If the beetles can get to it, they love the bark.
The short holly boards are sticker stacked and a fan is blowing through them. I will cut the others into short sticks and peel the bark tomorrow. We sawed a few live oak logs today that have been around too long but we did get some quartersawn boards that will also need to go on stickers tomorrow. Life's unanticipated challenges have gotten in the way of sawing lately and tomorrow some logs that used to be pretty good will go on the burn pile.
I added an additional blade lube tank a week or so ago that got a test run today. I will post pics in sawmill modifications. It seemed to work well.
Not much sawmill activity around here the last few months with all the hours I'm working at the day job. Even been loosing milling jobs that I just couldn't get to. I finally got a weekend off and was able to take a milling job. Made some 2x10,2x6,4x6,6x6, and 6x10's. Unfortunately, wasn't able to finish today, but will be headed back tomorrow after church.
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Looking at his profile, I wonder if Magic Man is sawing any birthday cake today? ???
HAPPY BIRTHDAY LYNN! smiley_beertoast
Does that mean MM is finally get'in old?--- Happy birthday Lynn.
I see where some folks have a sawmill dog--- or even a sawmill cat--- up here on the ranch I get to have a sawmill horse. I milled a double burl doug fir log and about 350 BF of blue stain ponderosa this afternoon and my rope horse was under foot all day long.
I was hope'in the burl had a bit more flare to it than it did, but I'll build a couple hall tables from it and make a few bucks.
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I cut my first 6x6 post this weekend. I milled it to 7x7 and will whittle down after drying. It is a little over 16.5 feet. I love cutting these over 2x6s or 2x4s. What's wrong with me?
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Before that I cut these 10 foot 2x4s. 60 of them.
hugs, Brandi
Getting it done!
Quote from: bags on July 14, 2019, 08:51:36 PM
Does that mean MM is finally get'in old?--- Happy birthday Lynn.
I see where some folks have a sawmill dog--- or even a sawmill cat--- up here on the ranch I get to have a sawmill horse. I milled a double burl doug fir log and about 350 BF of blue stain ponderosa this afternoon and my rope horse was under foot all day long.
I was hope'in the burl had a bit more flare to it than it did, but I'll build a couple hall tables from it and make a few bucks.
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That's a first on the Sawmill Pony. Still nice boards.
Happy late birthday Lynn, I hope you had a great one!
Well, we have the sawmill dogs, sawmill mount, and now the sawmill cows.
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Happy late Birthday Lynn!
hugs, Brandi
HAPPY belated BIRTHDAY! Lynn, hope you had a great day. It was also one of my daughters' birthday too.
Getting settled in with the new mill.
Folks are calling in with orders retail sales have been slow for me this year.
I will saw orders as long as I have logs that will work.
Today a small shed kit order and some 2x4x8 for camp repair.
Smiley likes the new mill sleeps by my station
Lots more mess piles up with the lt40
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Yesterday, I cut up a large 23" diameter x 14' ewp log. I needed some 5x5s for a timber frame shed.
And I also got an 8x8 and a fohc 6x8 out of the middle, for another timber frame project:
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the customer is on his way over to pick these up today.
Jim Rogers
Jim,
Good looking wood there.
Today, I had to make some 5x5x8' timbers from the pieces I cut off that big log.
The 5" thick slabs were 14' long so I cut off 6' to sell as a bench/bar top, coffee table top or other project:
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Just listed it on marketplace. I hope it sells soon.
Jim Rogers
Quote from: WDH on July 12, 2019, 08:45:07 PM
Howard,
I got some red maple logs today and one of them had that shake. First time that I have seen that in maple. You can see it on the third log from the left with a lot of heartwood.
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Hmmm. Oh well. The end shown in the original pic was the end of the red maple 17' log. I cut the 17' log into two 8'6" logs. After about a week, they now look like this. I picked this log because of the black in the heartwood hoping for some black streak in the lumber. Oh well :).
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@WDH (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370) that is the coolest example I have ever seen. Sorry for the loss of wood..hope it was not expensive. But..gosh if it were black locust I'd just finish splitting and pound them into the fence line.
If you were to look up shake in the dictionary... that should be the picture you would see as an example. :) Banjo
Danny,
You need to go to the FF dictionary and look up Shake or Ring Shake and post that picture. (Sorry, I posted this before I read Banjo's comment - at least great minds think alike).
I think we need a new category called "Earthquake" for that one.
Dang,Danny. I think Elvis sang a song about those logs of yours. Too bad. I spent last Sunday evening burning a pile of what used to be thumper sized oak logs that I let sit around too long. They are probably still burning. Pop used to say, "Life is a big ole %$%$ sandwich and every day you take another bite", when things would go awry.
Today class we will see how in the early days before bandsaw mills, a hammer and froe was used to split riven lumber... :D
Excellent idea, but I wouldn't use a hammer with a froe. I'm sure you were using that term loosely.
It's still use-able. From each section you can cut a flat sawn 4x8 brace, or your could RRQS boards that are 1/2 heartwood. You could quarter saw some 2x. I can't really tell how big a diameter those are...
I want some of what Brad's smoking. :D
And in our FF dictionary next to the word "Optimist" we will post a picture of Brad. ;)
Actually, I am confident he is right, he usually is. But I also bet very few of us would try to salvage anything from them when we see a log like that.
Brad is right, he has vertical grain there, now to perfect the Reverse Pentagon Quarter Sawing Method. :D
I wish all of my firewood for the OWB came pre-split like that :D
They really are set up nice for riving. The center would make some good mauls too.
It is going to be an adventure for sure. If I leave them long enough, they may just split themselves and be laying there in pieces. I need to cogitate on this for a bit :-\.
Quote from: Jim_Rogers on July 17, 2019, 04:34:41 PM
Today, I had to make some 5x5x8' timbers from the pieces I cut off that big log.
The 5" thick slabs were 14' long so I cut off 6' to sell as a bench/bar top, coffee table top or other project:
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Just listed it on marketplace. I hope it sells soon.
Jim Rogers
Sorry, but I'm going to leap frog back to Jim's Post.....
Jim, do you advertise those slabs as green wood? I've got a ton of slabs that I've been getting from my wind- ravaged woods and a CSM, but I've been stashing them in the barn to let them air dry some. Are folks buying slabs off the mill?
I'll hang up and listen to your answer......
Steve
I sell lots of green slabs
I advertise them as green with understanding they need to be dried before use.
I sell zero green ones. Never really tried.
Selling green slabs will be changing in the next year.
I can't spend anymore this year.
I will have a kiln next year.
Selling green leaves to much money on the table
Thanks Bruno,
As a percentage of either Spalted, Live Edge/ Specialty Slabs- or regular "Rough Sawn", what do you think you're leaving on the Table by selling green?
Steve
Quote from: olcowhand on July 19, 2019, 06:47:30 PM
Quote from: Jim_Rogers on July 17, 2019, 04:34:41 PM
Today, I had to make some 5x5x8' timbers from the pieces I cut off that big log.
The 5" thick slabs were 14' long so I cut off 6' to sell as a bench/bar top, coffee table top or other project:
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Just listed it on marketplace. I hope it sells soon.
Jim Rogers
Sorry, but I'm going to leap frog back to Jim's Post.....
Jim, do you advertise those slabs as green wood? I've got a ton of slabs that I've been getting from my wind- ravaged woods and a CSM, but I've been stashing them in the barn to let them air dry some. Are folks buying slabs off the mill?
I'll hang up and listen to your answer......
Steve
Steve:
here is a copy of my facebook marketplace listing for some thinner pieces:
2 1/2" thick 21" wide x 6' natural edge rustic white pine slab for projects, fresh cut green wood, could be sappy, need to dry out some, no shipping, pick up only; good for bar top, benches, signs, table top or other outdoor projects. message for sales appointment Monday to Saturday 8am to 5pm Price is per piece
If they take them like this then it's up to them to dry it so that they can use it inside. I warn them that they need to dry out a lot.
And I do sell them like this.
Jim Rogers
PS new customer coming over tomorrow to buy one.
Red oak for blocking, I'm trying to make some wedges for the paving company, as I have done before.
Third cut zing one nail.
Not the best way to start a hot day.
Jim Rogers
Steve
Some folks are cheap and will buy green slabs no matter what you tell them about drying them.
There is always the person out there that knows more than I :D
Some folks want dry only and you can get much more for the product.You just need to sit on it longer.
I want to be the real deal some day like others on the FF.
It involves lots of work and an investment in equipment and inventory.
In New Hampshire we can sell green lumber , pine boards , hemlock and spruce.
I do that now to pay the bills.
I picking all my clear pine boards to air dry then hopefully kiln dry them to sell for more.
I can sell a 1x12x10 clear green for $17. But dried $27 and still beat the lumber stores by $10 .
Bruno, sounds like you're planing a DH kiln? I've heard Yellowhammer say he dries slabs in the solar kiln. Solar kiln is less cost. Solar takes longer, but if you build more than one....
I'm going to build both
I'd like an I Dry but it needs to be in a building.
Some fun in the hot sun, well actually I'm under my umbrella:
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and there are more on the other side of this log.
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Jim Rogers
I sell green slabs out of necessity. (I need the money now! :D) I tell all the customers up front that it is green, and will have to dry. Whatever wood I cut gets stacked and stickered so as it sits unsold, it is air drying.
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I recently bought a moisture meter to check my slabs and lumber, to show the customers how dry it is, and how much it has to dry yet.
Wow, Resonator- that seems quite dry (8.2%) for Air Dried. Isn't that close to what most would consider to be "Inside use" or equal to Kiln Dried?
Quote from: WDH on July 19, 2019, 04:46:56 PM
It is going to be an adventure for sure. If I leave them long enough, they may just split themselves and be laying there in pieces. I need to cogitate on this for a bit :-\.
A log turning itself into bow staves would be impressive. Wish I had a log do that when I was hobby building a few longbows would have save a lot of sledgehammer swinging :D
QuoteWow, Resonator- that seems quite dry (8.2%) for Air Dried. Isn't that close to what most would consider to be "Inside use" or equal to Kiln Dried?
That was some of my 4/4 Black Cherry boards after a year and half of air drying, and I was pleased to see that is low enough for inside use. The slabs of course will take longer to dry by how thick they are, and what type of wood. (My 9/4 Black Ash slabs may take forever.) :D
Resonator,
That would be great if your meter is accurate. Unfortunately, that reading for any air-dried lumber in your location is suspect. There have been many studies of EMC for various locations around the country and that reading in July is consistent with locations in New Mexico and parts of Arizona. At this time of year in Wisconsin, your EMC (and fully air-dried lumber) should be 13-14%.
Here is a reference:
https://research.cnr.ncsu.edu/blogs/wpe/files/2016/08/Equilibrium-Moisture-Content-of-Exterior-Wood-in-the-US.pdf
OK Tom, I'll take my July moisture readings with a grain of salt. ;)
Are you using a species correction table? Temperature correction?
Quote from: Jim_Rogers on July 20, 2019, 10:21:23 AM
Some fun in the hot sun, well actually I'm under my umbrella:
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and there are more on the other side of this log.
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Jim Rogers
Jim, I'd have cut that one for firewood.
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I'm done cutting hedge/Osage orange for a while..... :-[
That's some pretty stuff, makes me jealous. I have 5 saplings from the tree at Monticello - can't remember the name of the tree, supposed to be the oldest or biggest one or something like that - on my place, bought them last year and they are about 3' tall now and 3 years old. One day they will become a real tree!!
Sawed the last few small juniper logs into 4/4 x width today. Won’t saw again till the first of September, maybe not even then because I’ll be focusing on septic system Instalation. But first, Vera and I have some grandkids in Japan that we must go see. Their parents are really nice and will let us stay with them.
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Hard Maple. Had a new customer bring in a couple 12' 6" Hard maple logs for me to saw, loaded on an old wagon running gear. He left the logs and wagon with me, which I then reloaded with his boards off the mill. Had to do some heavy lifting to turn them, (I told him I prefer shorter logs). Though it did make some nice 4/4 lumber, some boards perfectly clear and up to 11" wide.
Now that is some white maple.
I've gotten the slab and footing poured for the apartment in the shop. I was going to run a row of cinder block to match the stem wall, but decided that it would be faster to cut a beam. So, on Saturday I cut my first over length beam at 24'. It wasn't all that hard, but it really isn't something I want to make a habit of.
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And here is the final resting place
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smiley_thumbsup nice job.
@Crossroads (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=33396) , what is it that you're building there? An apartment in your shop? Why?
Yes, I'm building an apartment. We decided we didn't want to spend another winter in the 5th wheel, and since I'm working 60-70 hours a week plus an hour drive each way, I just didn't have time to start building the house. We decided it would be more comfortable to build a 550 sq. Ft apartment to live in while we build the house. Hopefully I can get started on the house next year. I may also make another attempt at being self employed at the same time.
@Brab_bb
Living in a barn isn't that bad, 1200 sf of living space (2 bed 2 bath) and 1100 sf of wood shop. It's an old picture before I had things cleaned up. It is a great way to start off.
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And another more recent of my morning view.
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When my folks built their house, the floor plan was 28x40. same as the barn on the farm. We got the walls up and roof on and I says to Dad . "Building a House or a Barn".
Lived in my basement with the house framed in Windows and doors in.
Moved in December 20 no insulation up stairs just a wood stove. Sleeped upstairs
Some times you do what you got to do :)
@Bruno of NH (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=26349) I agree on the decline in demand for live edged. Or perhaps another way to put it is over abundance of supply. Lots of wide sawmills out there now, lots of lucas, peterson, etc slabers. It doesn't take long to overwhelm local demand if 5 or 6 guys are churning out live edged slabs like crazy.
That said, I think quality & quantity both win. If you are low cost provider and churn quantity products at fair local prices or high quality and deliver a great products (dry, flat, interesting grain/wood) a sawyer should be fine. That middle ground is likely to become less profitable or just go away. Especially if we have a recession (seems overdue).
I'm glad I got the wide mill even if slabs slow down.
I knew they would everyone is selling them now.
I can saw anything with profit with the new mill.
The old one not so much.
Quote from: nativewolf on July 24, 2019, 11:09:07 AMEspecially if we have a recession (seems overdue).
Not to change the subject but I don't think you can apply as much traditional analysis to the economy these days. New homes are being built around here, saw three more just the other day, two new corporate HQ's being built, new DC to the north of here about 45 minutes, and that has not been the case for a long time. Remember we are in primary season now so the gloom and doomers are on the news every other day, but I think things are getting stronger and busier. Can't speak to the live edge slab market as I don't sell to that market at all, but being an instant gratification society I think the prospect of having to wait a couple years for a slab to dry has dampened the demand somewhat. Personally I saw it as a fad / trend.
X2 on what Southside said.
Things are nuts around me. Single family, multifamily, retail, commercial. Demand is high around here.
Quote from: btulloh on July 24, 2019, 02:44:30 PMX2 on what Southside said. Things are nuts around me.
Aren't things always nuts before it goes to hell? Otherwise it wouldn't be a surprise, which it always seems to be. It isn't until after it's happened that it's obvious it would happen.
Alan
That is also true.
Yes, I would say @alan gage (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=36602) is spot on. While VA is hot right now it seems too hot. Recessions are just a natural part of any economic cycle and it has been 8 years since we've had one. Granted the end of the Bush administration was the absolute low point of economic times so Obamas first term was lucky to barely ekk out any growth and the second term was ferocious and so has the first couple of years of Trump. That's a long long growth spurt considering everything going on in the world. Personally I think some of it is just corporate America feasting on virtually 0 interest rates. Growth now but at what cost? the budget deficit has been ballooning at unprecedented rates- I mean it is grotesque. Oh well, I am no economic seer but to me, this smells like a right good recession coming on and if so, watch out. Not many weapons the Fed can play when interest rates are almost 0.
I think Southside's main point is that generalities don't reflect the local trend.
Economics occur at the local and regional level. Then someone averages everything up and it gets reported by our wise and esteemed media. Enter there at your own risk.
There are always signs ahead of upturns or downturns. Usually you don't find them on tv until it's well underway.
Whatcha sawin'?
Quote from: btulloh on July 24, 2019, 03:42:58 PM
I think Southside's main point is that generalities don't reflect the local trend.
Economics occur at the local and regional level. Then someone averages everything up and it gets reported by our wise and esteemed media. Enter there at your own risk.
There are always signs ahead of upturns or downturns. Usually you don't find them in tv until it's well underway.
Whatcha sawin'?
Ha, I am wanting to be sawing :). I want to saw the 60 cedar poles sitting in my yard, the 20 locust poles, and 100 other logs. Guess I need a mill. If I was trucking inclined or more mechanically inclined like some here I might head to British Columbia with MM and buy one of the mills there that have gone bust. Instead I will have to make do with something small and simple.
@nativewolf (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24089) Black Locust? Want to sell some as posts?
Down here Facebook Marketplace is full of people selling green or undried lumber cheap. That is a market that I do not play in.
My observation and opinion of the recovery is that we did not see any real growth until about three years ago. The experts can cite all the data they want and claim the recession was over in 2010, and maybe for businesses that borrow from the Fed and loan out $ along with Wall St it was, but for Main St it sure was not. The bleeding slowed down, but life support was sure wide spread for a long time.
Now I am seeing the average guy - works for the Fire Dept, DOT, etc - walking around with a little $$ in his pocket and looking to spend it, that shows growth. I am getting a fair bit of orders from Petersburg, a city that has seen blight since what - the '80s? I mean we are talking about a community that was hit with a F4 tornado in 1993 and still has some of the damaged buildings in the same condition they were that night!! Now folks are buying places that were run down, re-modeling them, and living in them, that to me is real economic growth and has only begun over the past couple of years, so I think we have a ways to go as I also believe we fell a lot further than will ever be fully admitted to, so the recovery will be longer in the process. Of course all this could change should the administration change, but assuming we stay the course then I think we have a ways to go with opportunity. That being said, I survived 2008, not because I was smart or anything, but rather I was such a small fish I was not worth the bite, so the lessons learned stick with me to this day and I operate with them in mind.
@DWyatt (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=39164) , I wasn't knocking it. Just trying to understand the situation. Whether it was a vacation property, or he just loved sawing so much that he was too tired to go in the house, so needed a bed right there at the mill?.....Sometimes when you're building, you have to do what you have to do to get things done.
Your spot on Brad, it's definitely situational. I was told yesterday that the overtime was going to slow down. Then I put in 13 1/2 hrs today 🙈
Quote from: Crossroads on July 23, 2019, 03:11:36 PM
Yes, I'm building an apartment. We decided we didn't want to spend another winter in the 5th wheel, and since I'm working 60-70 hours a week plus an hour drive each way, I just didn't have time to start building the house. We decided it would be more comfortable to build a 550 sq. Ft apartment to live in while we build the house. Hopefully I can get started on the house next year. I may also make another attempt at being self employed at the same time.
It's a lot of hours but hopefully you can sock some away, good luck on the apartment going smoothly!
Same self employment plan?
cypress market red hot, too much water in the swamps and not enough logs around.
I drove over to a customer's site 28 miles away yesterday and today. Yesterday I finished pulling/staging 4 logs with my truck and a cable and today I went over and milled till we about wore out me and my customer. All black cherry. Much of it turned out to have shake which will degrade our return. We spent far too much time trying to load and saw a double stump which turned out to be pretty much a bust. I still have 6 logs to finish day after tomorrow as he is not available tomorrow. I left the mill overnight and will be time for a 600 hour service when I get home with it then another job scheduled Monday and a good chance at another on Friday/Saturday. We will see. We did not complete a detailed tally and everything is rough stacked so be merciful with the mess and shortage of stickers used and such. I'd guess about 1200 bf of everything from 3/4 to 12/4 including some 9/4 X 18" X 12'+ which were about all these two old men could handle. This is a saw on shares job and may well end up being another hard lesson learned but we will see. Also I am trying to load multiple pictures at one go and am getting the sequence jumbled so bear with me.
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Biggest log of the day and first we cut after a big limb made into stickers.
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Most of the finished lumber. Lots of 5', 6' and 8' stuff. The long stuff on the right was the big log shown above.
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Log pile at the start of the minus the big guy and the demon double stump. Also some ash crib locks I brought for temporary dunnage.
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This was evil incarnate! Had to use the MM super hook and the mill to move it 20' to the mill then too short to fit across the loading arms and the claw could not turn it because off center and too short. I finally split it with my chain saw and found mold in the center. We might have gotten 10-12 bf of 3" square table legs for our effort and killed much of the morning. Holy water would have been in order. The customer is bent over a big limb that actually made real nice stickers.
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A few 5' LE 8/4 slabs, some 3" bench legs and a couple of 2X4s. The small stack at the back are earmarked for curved primitive benches.
Quote from: nativewolf on July 26, 2019, 06:41:06 AM
Quote from: Crossroads on July 23, 2019, 03:11:36 PM
Yes, I'm building an apartment. We decided we didn't want to spend another winter in the 5th wheel, and since I'm working 60-70 hours a week plus an hour drive each way, I just didn't have time to start building the house. We decided it would be more comfortable to build a 550 sq. Ft apartment to live in while we build the house. Hopefully I can get started on the house next year. I may also make another attempt at being self employed at the same time.
It's a lot of hours but hopefully you can sock some away, good luck on the apartment going smoothly!
Same self employment plan?
Thank you for the encouragement, I feel like things are going to start moving along. As for the self employment plan, it will be based around the sawmill, but will also include the dump truck, excavator and tool belt. Basically I'll throw some spaghetti at the wall and see what sticks.
friend called and said drop what your doing we gotta meet in the big city early in morning. I usually have alot of questions but he is a barn salvager and said the right words best old growth beams he ever seen and they were for the taking.
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this 12" x 18" beam was a beauty hard too find a 30' free of center.(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22539/rps20190726_193128_724.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1564194616)
more 12" x 18" x 30' old growth beams.(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22539/rps20190726_193232_245.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1564194697)
hardware cleaning wasn't that bad.
growth rings so close together us old guys can hardly see um!!! 8) 8) 8) :o :D
@redbeard (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=12539)
@redbeard (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=12539) That's awesome! DF? What will you do with them?
Re claimed old growth Douglas fir is a good market for flooring, windows, doors, trim, thick glue up tables.
These beams are very strong and very good for there use as a long beam also.
Nice salvage!
I cut some of that stuff, A little pitchy.
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Had to cut off 1/4" on 4 faces to get the good out of them.
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I went back over and finished sawing the 6 upper logs shown in the third picture above. Several were 5' pieces that each yielded about 4 - 8/4 live edge planks for benches or such.Everything sawed very quickly and my "customer" (This is an on-share basis) next door neighbor came over and enjoyed watching and we talked a little and he will likely come visit sometime. Total job was about 1150 bf and I will go over this week and pick up my share. I told him everything under 1" went in his stack as I have no demand or use for it and he knew that. Most of the LE pieces he does not need so I'll get most of them. I am confident we will have an easily agreeable split as it is much more wood than he needs for stock and i will be easy to work with.
I am 2 hours overdue for my 50 (600) hour service so I will complete that this afternoon. I bought oil and filter Friday and I stopped at a big flea market on the way home where my middle gd and her other aunt were set up. I found another Kohler filter for my mill and a couple more odds and ends including another ultralight rod and reel like I use and a night light to replace one that died on my boat shed so that worked well. I visited with several friends an prior customers there including the owner collecting his 50 cent entrance fee when I pulled in. He saw the mill and jokingly said he did not have his trees down yet. Maybe this will be a good reminder. I tentatively scheduled a fishing trip with my gd when I saw her so we will see how our schedules and weather meshes this week. I have another small RO quartersawing job tomorrow and a likely job on Friday/Saturday so we will see.
I did see my grand totals for sawing with the mill are 602 hours and a little over 94,250 bf with a sawing average of about 157 bf/hr including sawing alone or for customers and including my starting projects. I also see the mill is using a little less than one gallon of fuel per hour of use.
I got up and drove over to a customer about 30 miles away and sawed about 900 bf of RO. Mostly 4/4 and lots were 12" wide. A little 6/4 and one short log I quartersawed although the yield was not great due to a knot with some rot. Total yield about 900 bf. We got caught in one quick shower and it was thundering in the background when I rolled out.
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We trimmed one log to 6', a couple 8', one nearly 10' and the one in back was 12'. Was rushing to beat the rain and forgot to get a picture of the stacks of finished lumber.
Put the wide head to good use today.
Milled a good size ash log and got some nice 31" to 32" 2" thick live edge.
Used a Kasco 4° band
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I had a prospective customer call me wanting 20 8'X2"X4" poplar boards to build a shed a couple days ago so I went and cut a small tree up in my pasture and bucked and dragged these 2 small logs down. Based on the SE diameter I used the 2/3 rule to square up a beam and figured they'd make about a 9" beam or 81 square inches and since a 2X4 is 8 square inches I estimated I should get 10 or more out of each so only bucked these 2 logs.
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I sawed them this morning and got 25 - 2X4's including 2 with significant wane on them like the one at the bottom front (Not something I would try to sell but I could use them myself to make sawhorses or such. In this case I gave them to the customer who will use them for shelf braces or such.) and 2 - 2X6's. I called the customer and he happened to be in town 5 miles away and came and picked them up about 30 minutes later on his way home. He got his 20 2X4's, bought the 2 -2x6's and took the 2 freebie 2X4 with the bark on and we were both very happy with the transaction. Actually I was lucky as I did not have a deposit or prior experience with this customer but everything was on the up and up in this case. I still have 3 finished 2X4's out of the 2 logs for stock.
@WV Sawmiller (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=28064) what is the 2/3 rule?
Quote from: doc henderson on July 31, 2019, 04:44:03 PM
@WV Sawmiller (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=28064) what is the 2/3 rule?
Doc,
Say you want a 8"x8" timber, a good rule would be to start with a 12" diameter log. 8/12 = 2/3. I've always used it as the 1.5 rule, I.E. 8" multiplied by 1.5 = 12". Same principle, different path to the same destination.
Levi
Quote from: doc henderson on July 31, 2019, 04:44:03 PM
@WV Sawmiller (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=28064) what is the 2/3 rule?
I think he is just using the inverse of the rule I use. If I want an 8x8 out of a log, I add 50% to the 8" and that tells me I need a 12" log. The reverse is, take a 12" log and apply 2/3 to it. That is 8" - you can get an 8x8 beam out of it.
Edit: beat me to it!
Doc,
As a rough estimate a round log will square up approximately 2/3 of its SE diameter so a 15"SE diameter log should square up a beam approximately 10". it must be true as I know I read it here on the FF somewhere. Actually I think you will find it is a reasonably good rough estimate. In this case it worked fine. You can still expect to possibly get some extra side lumber.
Ljohnsaw,
yes. It may be called other things but same principle.
all good. I have been eyeballing it and do ok, but this I will remember. thanks gents!
good to know both so you can start with the log and know what cant to expect, or know the cant you need and pick the log based on diameter. cedar is fun, and it seems some logs have a bit of a square shape anyway.
Doc,
As you well know few logs are actually round and as you mention cedar is very guilty but in the case of an oblong type log if you use the average diameter you still get close. You may not get a 9X9 square beam but may get a decent 8X10 cant with essentially the same square inches involved.
It seems to work out pretty well as an estimate if you take the total square inches for your cut list for the same length and have cants that long that will square up using this rule for the same amount of square inches you will need. Obviously you have to have cants wide enough to exceed the maximum lumber widths involved but I digress.
Quote from: doc henderson on July 31, 2019, 04:55:02 PMcedar is fun,
Do you have a lot where you are? Is it Red or W??
tons, but in field and pastures. not all is good for boards. ERC. farmers shear it and put it in piles to burn. in the open lots of limbs and not always big trunks. Lots of bark inclusions and "lobulations". I found a log in a burn pile at a home site. I cut the end off and the char only went in 1/8th inch, even though the limbs were burnt off. may try that some time when there is a pile that I want to mill, but do not want to limb a thousand tiny limbs off. the best are growing in hedge row and limbs are sparse. I Ks we do not have big forest areas but rows along fields as wind breaks and to trap moisture as snow flies, and along rivers and creeks. there are companies here that do nothing but clear cedar trees from pasture as it takes space and moisture from the grass for cattle. I cut and saw a lot. I do rustic and prob. have 70 logs sitting and waiting for a project.
Doc,
I am shocked. :o I watch Gunsmoke religiously and now you are telling me the state of Kansas does not look like what we see there? ??? :D :D :D
it does, but the erc trees are trying to take over. The highways are pretty darn strait unless they had to go around a town. in a plane you see all the water ways in the form of trees. If you ever pass through, stop by and I will see if my wife will fetch you a drink. maybe put on a Ms. Kitty dress!!! :D :D :D ;)
Quote from: doc henderson on July 31, 2019, 10:11:17 PMThe highways are pretty darn strait
Not really, there is that bend in the road right there at Colby. :D
yes but there is a starbucks now at the filling station!!! enough caffeine and gas/diesel to make it to Denver!!! There are a bunch of roadside fans that make it kinda breezy out west. they are white and really tall and with 3 blades. :). and at the restaurant, all the "Ice" you want!
I told you they might have a curve to miss a city! :D
I remember driving across Kansas going to my Brother's wedding when I was a kid. I-70 I think and my Dad wondered out loud if he should drill a hole in the floor boards and put in an eye bolt so that he could just tie the steering wheel to it and take a nap. That road was SO straight and flat, you could see tomorrow on the horizon. Nothing but wheat fields and oil wells, wheat fields and oil wells, wheat fields and oil wells... :D :D ;D
No big fans in those days either. Too bad, because it was hot, but dry. ;D
Fuel was always cheaper on the other side of the road at the small place by the west bound on ramp. Plus they have a Sonic in town!!!
OG - if you want to see flat, drive across North Dakota, it makes Kansas look like Colorado.
Quote from: Southside on July 31, 2019, 10:46:39 PM
OG - if you want to see flat, drive across North Dakota, it makes Kansas look like Colorado.
I have not yet had the pleasure. I do know there are parts of Colorado that look like Kansas except they have mountains on the horizon. I am thinking of the drive from Denver down to the Springs. Boy, it's been a while though.
Actually, western ks. looks just like eastern Colorado. if you are ever driving west on I70 and a bunch of people have parked cars on an over pass and are standing outside looking east... check, there might be a tornado behind you. It can be sunny in front and storming behind. This happened out near Goodland a few years back going to boyscout camp! 8)
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on July 31, 2019, 10:51:06 PMI am thinking of the drive from Denver down to the Springs
Sadly that looks a lot more like the Long Island Express Way these days....
Also, my brother used to work for Koss building highways. some of the curves are placed every so often by engineers to reduce fatigue and people falling asleep.
Quote from: doc henderson on July 31, 2019, 10:53:08 PM
Actually, western ks. looks just like eastern Colorado. if you are ever driving west on I70 and a bunch of people have parked cars on an over pass and are standing outside looking east... check, there might be a tornado behind you. It can be sunny in front and storming behind. This happened out near Goodland a few years back going to boyscout camp! 8)
Yes, I HAVE had the pleasure of seeing that. Sometimes they are just looking to see what tomorrow's weather will be. ;D :D
BTW, Doc, this is a switch, usually at this hour your are working a night shift and I am home with a beer. This week I am covering the 3-12 shift for a vacationing supervisor while you are relaxing (I hope) in your trailer or hotel room. I am just watching the clock.
Quote from: doc henderson on July 31, 2019, 10:56:43 PM
Also, my brother used to work for Koss building highways. some of the curves are placed every so often by engineers to reduce fatigue and people falling asleep.
Well that pretty much spoils the eye bolt idea. >:( >:( >:( >:(
yes sitting in the trailer getting ready to hit the hay. but someone keeps posting so I have to reply! :D :D :D. We have stopped by Jeff's a few times. Went north and drove across the bridge, and today went to the logging museum. in am going to the Memorial at Coleman. Jeff has arranged for the vice pres. (of the memorial) to show us around. having a great time, and forgot about the beer. Now that you mention it, I think I will have one. sorry you are working!!! :) :) :)
Quote from: Southside on July 31, 2019, 10:54:59 PM
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on July 31, 2019, 10:51:06 PMI am thinking of the drive from Denver down to the Springs
Sadly that looks a lot more like the Long Island Express Way these days....
OH, that is a nasty thing to say. ;D When I was a littler kid (back in the last century) and eastern Long Island was all rural (potato, tomato, cauliflower, and sod farms) my family had a summer home out there. It was condemned by the state and taken through eminent domain to build the Long Island Distressway. I think that was around nineteen and sixty three or so. It was a nice area before that happened.
Yesterday, I traveled over to my friend Mike's sawmill.
He has a WM lt40HDDiesel 46 hp Lambordini engine.
He wants me to cut up a large pile of walnut for him and his brother to get the lumber.
They are going to send it out to be kiln dried.
To make room for the walnut to get to the mill we had to mill up a few pieces of cherry and a large oak log.
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Cutting one of the butt logs of the cherry we saw some wire fencing on the surface of the log:
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We dug a bit and then got the chain saw out and cut the log off, but still managed to hit one nail.
Mike moved the small logs around so we could load the biggest one to quarter saw the red oak.
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During the break down of this large 7' long red oak log, I noticed that the red light was on for his battery.
We found that the fan belt for the engine was broken and falling out.
After several phone calls to dealers and parts stores we couldn't find a belt locally. He ordered two from WM.
We took a piece of string and got a length and went to Napa and got a belt that we thought would work. Nope too short.
Got another one 2" longer and it worked but there was not further adjustment to make it tighter. And it was slipping a bit.
So we called it a day.
Sorry no lumber pictures.
But there was one nice sign on the wall:
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I especially liked rule number 2.
Jim Rogers
Not really sawing but this is my share of the cherry I sawed last week. About 565 bf and I left about 581 bf with the customer. I will see how this sawing on shares deal works out. I have a spreadsheet I use to tally my sawing so I made 2 more columns and showed a running tally of each persons share every time I designated all or part of a particular stack. We were down to a stack of 4/4 boards 5' long so I could have tossed another one or two into my pile for a near exact split but I was happy and he was too. The first thing I did was push all the 3/4 boards into his pile as I had told him I had no use or market for that kind of thin stuff when I was sawing it. We got a few 2X4s and some 3X3 for table legs and such and he decided he could use all that so I sent that to his pile. He advised he could use a couple of the 6' and 3 of the 5' 8/4 LE slabs so I added that to his pile and I got the bulk of them. I will use them for primitive mortise and tenon benches. If I find a decent market for them they should move for around$200 each. I got all the 8' LE 8/4 slabs and we split the 9/4, one LE 13 & 10 ft slabs. Anyway at the end I was satisfied and he seemed happy so now I just need to stack and sticker my share and find a market for it. I did insist on a couple of booked matched curve pieces but offered to let the customer pick which pair he wanted.
I don't know if I will make it a practice to saw on shares but I'm satisfied this one was fair for both of us.
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Assorted cuts
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2" LE slabs - probably most will be come benches.
Friends expect you to saw for free so shares aint bad.
Maybe that's why I don't have many friends, just customers. :D
Or maybe it has something to do with your obsession with chickens. :D
Actually there is "Millie" a hen that RUNS to the sawmill shed when we operate and hangs around the whole time. She actually stays out of the way of things and basically looks for good bugs. It's become quite the joke.
Not sawing, but we are in Japan spending time with grandsons Ryder and Raiden.
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Quote from: WV Sawmiller on July 30, 2019, 05:45:21 PM
I got up and drove over to a customer about 30 miles away and sawed about 900 bf of RO. Mostly 4/4 and lots were 12" wide. A little 6/4 and one short log I quartersawed although the yield was not great due to a knot with some rot. Total yield about 900 bf. We got caught in one quick shower and it was thundering in the background when I rolled out.
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We trimmed one log to 6', a couple 8', one nearly 10' and the one in back was 12'. Was rushing to beat the rain and forgot to get a picture of the stacks of finished lumber.
Howard,You are a busy man. I have been at camp putting the roof on the building I cut with my Logosol mill before I bought the woodmizer. Also house chores. Get back to milling soon. A fellow texted me this morning with a small order. Keep up the good work!
Rich
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on August 01, 2019, 04:35:11 PM
Not really sawing but this is my share of the cherry I sawed last week. About 565 bf and I left about 581 bf with the customer. I will see how this sawing on shares deal works out. I have a spreadsheet I use to tally my sawing so I made 2 more columns and showed a running tally of each persons share every time I designated all or part of a particular stack. We were down to a stack of 4/4 boards 5' long so I could have tossed another one or two into my pile for a near exact split but I was happy and he was too. The first thing I did was push all the 3/4 boards into his pile as I had told him I had no use or market for that kind of thin stuff when I was sawing it. We got a few 2X4s and some 3X3 for table legs and such and he decided he could use all that so I sent that to his pile. He advised he could use a couple of the 6' and 3 of the 5' 8/4 LE slabs so I added that to his pile and I got the bulk of them. I will use them for primitive mortise and tenon benches. If I find a decent market for them they should move for around$200 each. I got all the 8' LE 8/4 slabs and we split the 9/4, one LE 13 & 10 ft slabs. Anyway at the end I was satisfied and he seemed happy so now I just need to stack and sticker my share and find a market for it. I did insist on a couple of booked matched curve pieces but offered to let the customer pick which pair he wanted.
I don't know if I will make it a practice to saw on shares but I'm satisfied this one was fair for both of us.
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Assorted cuts
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2" LE slabs - probably most will be come benches.
Seems like a good deal. I think you should get 65% of the wood if you have to travel. I'd do 50% if they brought the logs to the mill. I guess each job is a little different if the customer supplies good help or not, etc. Looks like you ended up with some nice cherry.
Rich,
You are probably right on the split and this job was even worse because I bucked and pulled the logs to a landing which normally would certainly be the customer's responsibility. I took my ATV over and pulled most logs with it one day and went back another and used my truck to pull the last 4 biggest logs. I could not get the biggest one into position so I moved the mill instead. They looked like pretty logs but some had a lot of shake in them. The short LE slabs will probably turn out to be the most valuable. One 10' log I cut into 9/4 one LE had a big heart check on one end but the check was a 90 degrees out on the other end so you can imagine what is going on inside each of those planks.
I am sure I could have negotiated a higher split but the customer/owner was nice the logs really looked good at the beginning. Probably a 50/50 would have been more fair if he'd brought them to me to saw here like I first suggested before I saw the uprooted trees but he did not even have a saw big enough to handle the bigger cuts. He was already hard at work cutting the tops and limbs into firewood when I first saw the trees and If I'd waited long I was afraid he'd cut up or at least ruin the rest. This may not be a big money deal but I had fun and will ultimately recover my costs and make a little something.
I will say stacking about a ton of those big pieces on a shelf 6' above ground about kicked my butt.
I have had this log for a year
Yellow birch 8' long 39" on the butt
Made some nice 2" live edge
I'm glad I have the wide head mill.
Used a 4° Kasco from Jerry
One picture of some 16" × 8' pine boards
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@Bruno of NH (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=26349) , Looks like there's curl in the sapwood. If it's 39" at the widest point, how did you mill it? I thought the wide mills only had close to 36" between the guides?
Brad
The widest slab was 34" wide
The lt40 wide is only 34" between the guides
It was tight
The sap wood has like a flame look more than a curl.
I have never seen anything like it.
The xl 150 will cut 35"1/2
A xl 250 would be nice but I would need a small wheel loader to move the logs.
Bruno
got started on a pile of cedar nothing big but it made some boards and I got a break from mowing and mowing and mowing 8)
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Finished a mobile job in Coeur d'Alene on Saturday, it was only 4.5 hours, but with the heat, I was okay with that. I have the day off work tomorrow to go to my wife's company party. Since it doesn't start until 11:00 am I should have some time to cut a couple beams and some 2x12's for stair raisers for the apartment.
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Got my new mill today...... :D
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Extremely portable. Perfect mill for back country use.
Congratulations. Does it come in a wide model?
do not forget safety equipment, and a logrite cant hook! :)
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on August 05, 2019, 12:14:58 PM
Congratulations. Does it come in a wide model?
NO!!!!
looks to handle 1.5 inch logs!
Do you typically saw without removing the fenders? Nice mill.
is that DBH or butt end or small end at 1.5, are you sawing poplar or maple? ;)
At least that model doesn't need the new EPA fuel tank. :D
Diesel is exempt. However it is a Tier 1.035 x 10 to the minus 3 engine which means that the fuel has to be passed through a column of palladium black in line with the injectors which is good for about 3 hours of run time and the replacement cartridge is $6795 from Woodmizer, three for $18000 with free shipping if you buy them in bulk. They are over $8000 on amazon prime or ebay. But the little boards sell like hotcakes and are not that hard to KD which triples their value. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Does WM include these blades in their Resharp program?
E-Tex,
My 9 year old daughter got one like that at the 2018 Pig Roast, and she got it up and running right away, without all the foofaraw you're seeing here. She's now the President and CEO of a Custom Live Edge Popsicle stick manufacturing firm (and I'm retiring from my lucrative Automotive job to be her Janitor and Social Coordinator...). Do you want me to IM her email address so she can show you how to run it?
Steve
Quote from: olcowhand on August 05, 2019, 07:00:28 PM
E-Tex,
My 9 year old daughter got one like that at the 2018 Pig Roast, and she got it up and running right away, without all the foofaraw you're seeing here. She's now the President and CEO of a Custom Live Edge Popsicle stick manufacturing firm (and I'm retiring from my lucrative Automotive job to be her Janitor and Social Coordinator...). Do you want me to IM her email address so she can show you how to run it?
Steve
absolutely yes. I need all the help I can get!!!
"Custom Live-Edge Popsicle Sticks"....... could certainly be a new trend!
Quote from: caveman on August 05, 2019, 04:10:56 PM
Do you typically saw without removing the fenders? Nice mill.
I can promise that the only reason that the fender is still on is because they haven't found a pry bar to remove it after they put the log loader down. Ask me how I know ::) :D
Red oak blocks 8x8x2' and some 6x6x2' as well.
Also some wedges again for the paving company.
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Jim Rogers
Custom popsicle sticks could flitch fetch $300 I recon...buy more stock options in your janitorial role.
Since they made us leverage "open work space" we can no longer keep our favorite mills on our desks...#MissCubeLife
my cousin knew a guy with a little Austrian pine log. cut into furriing strips and 2 x 4s. lots of lube volume and concentrated.
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developing a cant
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did i mention lots of lube!
Neighbor gifted me some wood. Nice black cherry that the local sawmill passed on..
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straight grained wood is nice for some stuff, but that wood has some character. welcome to the forum
Quote from: doc henderson on August 10, 2019, 06:56:59 PM
straight grained wood is nice for some stuff, but that wood has some character. welcome to the forum
Thanks for the welcome Doc. Very much character indeed.
Yup, just like this place, plenty of "character" :D
Quote from: Southside on August 10, 2019, 08:51:02 PM
Yup, just like this place, plenty of "character" :D
Yep. Working with curved stuff shows skills.
Quote from: APope on August 10, 2019, 05:48:08 PM
Neighbor gifted me some wood. Nice black cherry that the local sawmill passed on..
I can see why a commercial mill didn't want to mess with a banana shaped log like that. They often just get left in the forest or busted up for firewood. Hence your friendly neighbour gifting it to you.
But for a small operation, it's no big problem to saw, and you get to charge extra for the "character". :) ;D
Look after that neighbour, they are the sort you want to live next to.
I cut these live edge walnut slabs this week, some 27" wide, and then it started raining. When the rain finished, I noticed how nice the wood looked so I snapped a photo or two.
I also snapped a photo of some of the other stuff I've been sawing, but its already kiln dried, and ready to sell.
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impressive!!! you are a machine!
I hate you envy you :). I have to scratch and squall for walnut. Those slabs are fantastic.
Today more cedar , went ok till first blade broke for no reason I can figure out just finished a cut was turning log and snap . then on the 2nd cut on the new blade i caught a stub when moving down for next cut threw the blade sheared off 4 teeth but got it straight enough for several more logs . Changed to another blade cut down to my last log and hit a nail pulled it and cleaned up teeth and
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finished log , cut some stickers , stacked and cleaned up . All and all a good day .
@doc henderson (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=41041) I appreciate it, for a small Mom and a Pop type operation, we crank out a decent amount of high quality wood. It's tough sometimes, long days, but it's fun.
@WDH (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370) those were some pretty special logs, with not a single knot in them, and I kind of promised the sticking crew I would not cut any more live edge slabs that big, 11 feet long, heavy as lead, especially since there isn't any place near here, including me, who has a planer big enough to eat them when they are dry. But I just couldn't resist.
Walnut log prices are dropping a little, so I'm getting some sweet ones sawn up in preparation for the big Christmas season.
@WDH (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370) , @YellowHammer (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=11488)
I've heard that Walnut doesn't grow as well or as big down south there as it does here in the midwest? Is that true? We've got nice walnut up here behind the corruption curtain. I hear they keep selling it to china though.
Yellowhammer, you didn't even have be on youtube throwing a bucket of water on your walnut!
Quote from: YellowHammer on August 11, 2019, 10:30:22 PM
@doc henderson (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=41041) I appreciate it, for a small Mom and a Pop type operation, we crank out a decent amount of high quality wood. It's tough sometimes, long days, but it's fun.
@WDH (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370) those were some pretty special logs, with not a single knot in them, and I kind of promised the sticking crew I would not cut any more live edge slabs that big, 11 feet long, heavy as lead, especially since there isn't any place near here, including me, who has a planer big enough to eat them when they are dry. But I just couldn't resist.
Walnut log prices are dropping a little, so I'm getting some sweet ones sawn up in preparation for the big Christmas season.
YellowHammer,
My Beech and Maple slabs "pale" in comparison to that Walnut! That will make some Customers very happy.
It does grow well down here on the right sites. The soils in the deep South are more weathered and acidic than those in the Midwest. On the moist deep soils in the coves in the Mountains and upper Piedmont there is some nice walnut, but the vast majority of Southern soils are not as suited as those in the Midwest with a higher pH. So it is not abundant and is only found naturally in more limited areas. In the Midwest where conditions are ideal, it can be a more dominant component of the species mix.
Of course it has been planted by people around habitations, and we see more of this tame stuff planted on less ideal sites than the wild stuff on the right sites, and the tame stuff comes with all the issues that you have when you are dealing with people and where they live. As a timber tree in the mix of hardwoods being logged down here, it is like finding hen's teeth.
Quote from: Brad_bb on August 11, 2019, 11:14:29 PM
Yellowhammer, you didn't even have be on youtube throwing a bucket of water on your walnut!
Yep, I hadn't expected the pop up showers and don't like my wood getting rained on, but it sure made the wood look nice.
We have some beautiful walnut here, being at the end of the Appalacian mountain range, but almost all of the logs are sold as veneer grade logs and exported overseas before I can get a shot at them. So good, clean walnut is very hard to get, so when I see logs like these, I snatch them up, and bid against them along with the other high grade log buyers.
YH,
I cut some cherry on shares a couple weeks back and it got rained on the night before I went and picked up my cut and it sure had made the red color pop on it.
Quote from: Lawg Dawg on April 09, 2019, 07:09:44 AM
Been sawing that SYP, leaving here by the trailer loads! 8)
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Lawg Dawg, I see you cut a lot of SYP. I have a new mill and new to milling. Just bought a TK1400 with the 24hp diesel. Would you mind sharing what you think runs best as far as blades and drip fluid? I have all SYP that I will be cutting for myself. Some of it was down from last summer and will be practice, saw shed, she shed, utility shed, live siding, etc. but after I clear that out it will be fresh SYP. Planning to cut a few at a time and process as I go. Eventually I will have a good amount of poplar if you have any experience with that? Trying to find one set up so I don't have a bunch of different blades to confuse my situation. There seems to be a wide range of recipes for the drips fluid. The cotton spindle stuff seems to be the most environmentally friendly besides Dawn and Pinsol. See several drip diesel... not a fan of that idea.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
2x6x16' oak for cow pen fence boards, second order from this guy, I`m thinking he must have some mean cows...the three boards visible with bark on them are the "freebies" the rest are pretty clean
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230 mile road trip.....again.
I'm checked in at the Hampton Inn and will see what tomorrow brings. My betting money is on more dirty log$. ::)
Had a mobile job this weekend for a logger I've milled for before. He had an order of western red cedar for 2 6x12 beams 22' long and 2 1x10 22' long, but the log was 23' with trim. It was a slow process, but 3 hours later that log was all sawn. Next was a 16' that was 43" on the butt. It went to 12 4x8's with the side wood going to 1x6. Then was a 12' log that went to 24 2x3's and 1x6. The last log was was 10' that we got 30 1x12 and some 1x6 out of. Sorry, I totally spaced taking any pictures 🙈
Quote from: Crossroads on August 13, 2019, 12:46:28 AM
Sorry, I totally spaced taking any pictures 🙈
fiddle-smiley
:)hugs, Brandi
Yes, sand and more sand.
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First the dozer cleared and leveled a spot for the sawmill,
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Then the skidder started bringing logs. :o
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Yup, gotta do what you gotta do.
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Don't slid them in the sand. :-X
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And it was Big Boy Hot today. smiley_sun smiley_sweat_drop
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If I look hot it's because I was. And then I got careless. It doesn't matter that you wear chaps bucking all of the logs to length, but it does matter when you see one more limb to trim off after you have removed them. :-\
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She said that it was 5 cm long but it looked more like 2" to me.
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I make a quick drive to the "Doc-in-the-Box.
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And got me 6 brand new stitches.
More dirty logs tomorrow.
Lynn - oh my!!! I am glad it was not worse than that.... This heat is miserable and yes it is easy to make mistakes like that due to it. Any chance to pull a water hose over to you and set up a mister type thing to help keep a little more comfortable?
Ouch.
I bet that won't keep you down long.
Hoooooo Boy, it might've been big boy hot - but filling your boot with the red stuff had to raise your temperature a bit too!
Glad to see that you got it taken care of quickly.
Stay cool Magic
Ouch! I hope it heals fast...
DanG!, that's nasty, sure glad it wasn't worse than that, just a flesh wound.
Quote from: Magicman on August 13, 2019, 10:46:24 PM
Yes, sand and more sand.
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First the dozer cleared and leveled a spot for the sawmill,
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Then the skidder started bringing logs. :o
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Yup, gotta do what you gotta do.
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Don't slid them in the sand. :-X
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And it was Big Boy Hot today. smiley_sun smiley_sweat_drop
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If I look hot it's because I was. And then I got careless. It doesn't matter that you wear chaps bucking all of the logs to length, but it does matter when you see one more limb to trim off after you have removed them. :-\
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She said that it was 5 cm long but it looked more like 2" to me.
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I make a quick drive to the "Doc-in-the-Box.
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And got me 6 brand new stitches.
More dirty logs tomorrow.
....Not gonna get many of us punching the "Like" button with posts like this, Lynn!
Take care in the heat and heal up soon.
Steve
Wow.
I dont know how you do it.
Did you not read this thread? dadgum you, Charlie!
http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=98807.0 (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=98807.0)
Magicman, you ain't 'spoked to be doin' dat stuff! Glad that you're able to deal with more sand tomorrow!
that is funny, 5 cm is about 2 inches, glad you got your sense of humor. you trimmed the wrong "limb"!!! glad you were ok. I am sure pat knows how to sew. you should of spent a little more time on your trip! best regards sir.
Good luck to you hope you can keep the sand out of the cut.
I would be more concerned with the 103 than the sand. I get hot stupid.
Thanks guys, forecast to be a bit cooler today.
Chain brake was on and the saw "kicked back", still no excuse for carelessness.
Quote from: Andries on August 13, 2019, 11:40:27 PMHoooooo Boy, it might've been big boy hot - but filling your boot with the red stuff had to raise your temperature a bit too!
Funny you should say that. I didn't have a water hose so I washed my boot out in the hotel bath tub and dried it with the hair drier. Had to do some serious cleaning it up so they wouldn't think that there had been a chainsaw massacre. :o
Monday, I got too hot and saw the bear. Heat index was 109. It is dangerously hot here in Georgia. Yesterday I had some things to do in town so I took it pretty easy. As you know MM, when you get that hot, bad things can happen like what happened to you. Every time that I need to saw something quick with the chainsaw and do not use the chaps, that little voice in my right ear says, "UMMM, you better not."
Looks like you will make a little less profit on this job :).
Morning work till you can't breathe heat index 115 today, and your clothes are drenched in sweat, shower, change clothes, eat, nap, start again at 3 till dusk, remove clothes that are sopping wet from sweat, pray for wind, and it rains again so it will be steaming again in the morning. Oh the joys of living in the south, the only good thing I know from dripping sweat all over is that it drowns the chiggers.
MM you could have just told us the bear got your leg and you fought it off to protect PatD and none of us would have been the wiser for it. :D
Take care of yourself MM, don't be afraid to take a break and sit in the truck with the AC on when its that hot. Missed you at the Pig Roast this year, (though it was kind of like you were there!) ;) ;D
Quote from: Woodpecker52 on August 14, 2019, 12:10:10 PM
Morning work till you can't breathe heat index 115 today, and your clothes are drenched in sweat, shower, change clothes, eat, nap, start again at 3 till dusk, remove clothes that are sopping wet from sweat, pray for wind, and it rains again so it will be steaming again in the morning. Oh the joys of living in the south, the only good thing I know from dripping sweat all over is that it drowns the chiggers.
I had never experienced anything like what you're talking about until I landed in Japan. The heat index was 112° and the air was so wet in Tokyo that you could see it like fog. Everything you touched felt sticky. Right now there's a typhoon to the south sending clouds, rain, wind and cooling. Daughter and family make it all worth while, but you all can have this wet heat.
Hope you had a better day today than yesterday, that's a good size bite out of your shin.
Ouch!
You might still have sea legs going on with all the sailing you did out west.
Take care be safe!
MM please watch yourself in the heat.
Also everyone else
We are getting another dose of the heat and humidity coming in on Saturday night till next Tuesday.
The leg looks to be in good shape for the shape that it is in. I believe that it will be OK.
It was brutally hot again today. I did eat a few snacks and a banana and kept swigging on the water bottle the entire day. More tomorrow. I wish that I could work early and late, but that won't work with the tailgunner. :-\
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Dirt, what dirt, I don't see any dirt. ::)
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The forwarder dumping another load of "logs" for the "skidder" to haul to the sawmill.
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The skidder got a few of them up the hill and ready to be bucked.
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A whack of Pecker Poles ready for me to buck. :-X
The customer bought 10 more acres of timbered land last week, so maybe he will have enough logs to supply his need. I am sure that I will be here for a couple more weeks.
Lynn You are definitely tougher than me. I have and order laying on the ground by the mill. That I haven't touched in 2 weeks ... and got a call from a customer Sat. evening ....went and looked at them Sunday and told him I will get to them when it cools off a bit. I cut and order for a commercial customer a few days ago and thats all i plan to do untill September. Right now we are renovating a rental that got trashed....at least the ac is now working. Got about 2 or 3 more days in there. We got 3 of them and if they wern't so close to the house I would sell them all. Banjo
MM,
Glad to see you are back in your sandbox. Don't you have an umbrella on your seat?
Just what is a pecker pole?
In the heat of the summer, I change clothes 4 times a day with two-three wash off baths in between. Atopic Dermatitis likes wet shirts. I don't like either.
hugs, Brandi
Need to lay a few logs on the ground to dumps logs onto to keep them out of the dirt. :(
But do all that digging at my place I would have rocks to put logs onto. :o What dirt?
I see some not-sweetgum.
Quote from: Bindian on August 14, 2019, 11:21:20 PMDon't you have an umbrella on your seat? Just what is a pecker pole?
Yup, I'm under an umbrella when I am sawing but all of the other time (majority) I am not.
To me pecker poles are long skinny logs/trees that won't make lumber, but we do it anyway. Thankfully all of these will be 4"X 6" timbers.
WDH, so far all Oak.
Here is a typical example of what I call a pecker pole.
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This thing was barely 12" at ground level. I bucked it into four 11' "logs" that made 4"X 6" timbers.
My today was a strange deal. Hot Yes, but it got more interesting at 3:00. The dirt moving crew couldn't/wouldn't/didn't do what the builder wanted done so he sent the whole crew home. Well my tail gunner was riding with one because he has no driver's license so he when home too.
No, I didn't charge for the two hours that I missed because I was glad to quit. smiley_sweat_drop smiley_sun
I will only work until noon tomorrow, shut it down, and make the 4½ hour drive home. I'll be back and ready to saw Monday morning. It's sorta iffy whether I'll get all of his downed trees done next week. ???
Quote from: Magicman on August 15, 2019, 08:21:44 PM
Here is a typical example of what I call a pecker pole.
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This thing was barely 12" at ground level. I bucked it into four 11' "logs" that made 4"X 6" timbers.
My today was a strange deal. Hot Yes, but it got more interesting at 3:00. The dirt moving crew couldn't/wouldn't/didn't do what the builder wanted done so he sent the whole crew home. Well my tail gunner was riding with one because he has no driver's license so he when home too.
No, I didn't charge for the two hours that I missed because I was glad to quit. smiley_sweat_drop smiley_sun
I will only work until noon tomorrow, shut it down, and make the 4½ hour drive home. I'll be back and ready to saw Monday morning. It's sorta iffy whether I'll get all of his downed trees done next week. ???
Looks like pecker poles could be telephone poles also. How was the wound today in the heat?
hugs, Brandi
Son and I sawed 2x10x12 Hemlock yesterday along with a few 2x8 and 2x6s
Weighed a random one
Weighed 92 pounds no wonder my tail man gets tired.
Only have to lift the first one in a tier then can slide them but still heavy work.
calculate that 4 tiers weighs around 1800, makes the front tires on the Kubota squat a little.
I only saw half days now.
That heavy stuff will work the tail off of a tailgunner Pete.
I am doing sorta OK Brandi. No bother with the wound, but this heat is brutal.
I am marking and bucking this morning, but I have not seen my tailgunner yet. This may be a short day.
Quote from: Magicman on August 16, 2019, 09:18:14 AM
That heavy stuff will work the tail off of a tailgunner Pete.
I am doing sorta OK Brandi. No bother with the wound, but this heat is brutal.
I am marking and bucking this morning, but I have not seen my tailgunner yet. This may be a short day.
Have a good day Lynn and stay hydrated.
So far what I have sawn, was without a tail gunner. Once I get sawing, I move my 29 foot gooseneck in beside the loader arms and stack and sticker the boards. Then when finished sawing, I just fork them onto the customer's trailer. The 7x7x16 foot beams, I chain under the grapple and move them to the trailer.
I welded a receiver tube to my grapple so I can move the gooseneck without swapping between the grapple and loader bucket to move the trailer.
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Makes it easy fetching logs or moving the trailer now.
hugs, Brandi
No, they would not make utility poles (telephone) because they are much too small plus they are Sweetgum. Under crowded growing conditions they are all "reaching for the sky" and grow tall and skinny with very small diameters. Not good for anything much other than pulp. If they are larger diameter they will make RR Ties. In my instance I am making one timber per log with a centered pith and they are remaining stable.
MM - are you seeing much face checking on the gum timbers you sawed earlier?
Quote from: Magicman on August 16, 2019, 10:36:31 AM
No, they would not make utility poles (telephone) because they are much too small plus they are Sweetgum. Under crowded growing conditions they are all "reaching for the sky" and grow tall and skinny with very small diameters. Not good for anything much other than pulp. If they are larger diameter they will make RR Ties. In my instance I am making one timber per log with a centered pith and they are remaining stable.
Oh...........sweetgum. The most twisted grain I have ever seen or tried to split. So if you center the pith, they tend to stay straightish? I got lots of them, but they are big shade trees.
hugs, Brandi
Quote from: Southside on August 16, 2019, 10:47:21 AM
MM - are you seeing much face checking on the gum timbers you sawed earlier?
Absolutely, let's just say that the timbers have much "character". ;D
I could have taken a picture today but will do so next week. The Oaks are badly checked and I believe that the Sweetgum is worse. Checked but remaining straight.
I didn't saw any Sweetgum this week, but there are probably ~8 trees marked and ready for bucking next week.
Two customers dropped off a mixed-bag of logs. Red Oak, White Oak, Water Oak, and ERC. Hope to mill one afternoon this week!
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have 6 mobile trips lined up for September, including a 2-3 day trip to Louisiana.....taking the truck camper (my favorite saw trips!). I love the part-time gig!
I made my 230 mile return trip, am settled in at the hotel, and am ready for the sand pit again this week. Hopefully it will not be so brutally HOT. :-\
Quote from: Bindian on August 16, 2019, 09:58:21 AM
Quote from: Magicman on August 16, 2019, 09:18:14 AM
That heavy stuff will work the tail off of a tailgunner Pete.
I am doing sorta OK Brandi. No bother with the wound, but this heat is brutal.
I am marking and bucking this morning, but I have not seen my tailgunner yet. This may be a short day.
Have a good day Lynn and stay hydrated.
So far what I have sawn, was without a tail gunner. Once I get sawing, I move my 29 foot gooseneck in beside the loader arms and stack and sticker the boards. Then when finished sawing, I just fork them onto the customer's trailer. The 7x7x16 foot beams, I chain under the grapple and move them to the trailer.
I welded a receiver tube to my grapple so I can move the gooseneck without swapping between the grapple and loader bucket to move the trailer.
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Makes it easy fetching logs or moving the trailer now.
hugs, Brandi
I like that hitch!
Quote from: Crossroads on August 18, 2019, 11:29:07 PM
I like that hitch!
Thanks Crossroads@ I have had one on my loader bucket for 12 years. Now I can don't have to leave the tractor seat as often. Saving steps. It's all about saying steps.
hugs, Brandi
A little custom sawing this weekend. Joists and timbers, with a little side lumber.
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My customer's building project here is huge. The initial plan was for 70 housing units. Some are occupied and there are 20+ in various stages of construction. Different builders contract to build 1-2, etc, at the time from the ground up with my customer providing all of the building materials. This means that there is a certain amount of competition for the timbers that I am sawing. It's kinda first come first serve, but I am constantly being questioned about when certain dimension timbers will be available. I am simply sawing trees/logs as they have been brought up.
Well today one builder was wanting 4"X 6" timbers. Sadly another crew had taken them all so he was wanting to know "when"? I told him that the only way that I would put him ahead would be if he could whip me in an arm wrestle. Well the match was set and the two contestants squared off.
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I think that he cheated because no way could he put me down that easily. Anyway I then challenged him to the best two out of three.
Now I know that something underhanded was going on because he called in reinforcements:
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His wife !!! Well a deal is a deal and even though I still feel that I was taken unfair advantage of, he got his timbers.
Dang that is odd🤔, that they beat you that is.. they maybe had the wind at there back? Or the sun was in your eyes?
Way to make work fun again....
Thanks for sending Smiles Magicman.
:) :) :)
That was nice of you to let them win, I bet he never would have tried had he known you were just back from Alaska wrestling bears and have the scars to prove it. :D
Actually that guy is a "Cage Fighter". He told me up front that he doesn't loose and would never just let anyone beat him no matter what !! :o
You are just too easy.
Last week I tried to get a timber out of a log that had a big rot hole in the end.
When I sawed it open it had a big ant nest in the middle of it.
I did manage to get some pieces from it for a customer by cutting off the ant nest end.
Today, I listed the ant end slab for sale to make a glow table top.
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it is 1 3/8" thick x 24" wide and 5' long.
here is a link to the video showing how to make a glow table:
Glow in the dark Epoxy Resin End Table DIY - YouTube (https://youtu.be/6qNfdq3NLvM)
Jim Rogers
Quote from: Magicman on August 20, 2019, 07:53:17 AM
Actually that guy is a "Cage Fighter". He told me up front that he doesn't loose and would never just let anyone beat him no matter what !! :o
Lynn,
Awesome way to let the customer think he is in control! Next time, challenge him to a snowball fight. :snowball:
hugs, Brandi
Today was hot & dusty but we still made production.
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I am liking this Timberline Chainsaw Sharpener. :)
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This has gotta be cruel. Sawing a Sweetgum log and it ain't even dead yet. :o
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But this ain't Sweetgum. :o Some of you will recognize it. :-X
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The "forwarder" bringing more tree length logs.
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And then the "skidder" bringing up a pecker pole that made five 11' logs.
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These showed up today. So far I am not gaining on the log whack.
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So I just went to the Mexican joint and treated myself to broiled flounder and shrimp. ;D
I thought I saw a smiley_devil. I did, I did saw a smiley_devil.
And I sawed dat smiley_devil dat you saw. Made a 4"X 6" out of it. ;D
The Turbo 7° blades continue to produce no matter what I stick them in. smiley_thumbsup
After working as hard as you do in this heat, you need some good vittles.
Looks like a southern red oak in the whack. I am glad you are getting satisfaction with your turbos. How thick of a band are you running? After an alignment, belt tensioning, brand new .045 turbo band run smack into the idle side cover that I installed incorrectly and then another brand new turbo 7 on the first cut, I get this- Consternation.
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Magicman, I thought you were going to be booked up until this infernal summer was over. You have a good gig going. I am guessing that you got a new appreciation for humid air once you returned from Alaska.
Quote from: Magicman on August 20, 2019, 07:36:27 PM
Today was hot & dusty but we still made production.
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I am liking this Timberline Chainsaw Sharpener. :)
I like your little sharpening jig MM. I think you had another photo of it up a while back but it didn't catch my eye because I don't work out of a truck...mostly... But I recently started doing some cutting elsewhere and trying to sharpen the saw on a plastic tailgate is like trying to give a street cat a bath. I have a stump vice, never used it, now I believe I just might. I don't use a timberline, to each his own, I use a Husky roller guide. Either way, this should work just fine. Now if I just knew where to find some sort of plank or board or something...... ;D :D 8) :)
Sawing in a sand pit. I bring rocks up into the bog one at a time too. ;D
I just bought a Timberline sharpener. I hope that I can get it to work on ruff cut boards, but I tend to not cut bark that hard.
Yup, OG, being able to clamp the stump vice to a 2X8 was the chainsaw bar holding solution for me.
Stump vice is handy, Hows the leg holding up Magicman? Well, I hope.
The last few days have been pretty busy. Thursday I did some work on the apartment, trenched and ran the water line and power line from the well to the shop.
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Next we made a trip to Oregon so I could walk my step daughter down the isle.
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Then on Monday I had a milling job. This was probably the most prepared job site I've shown up at. The guy had the logs decked nicely and used a cat to level of a place for the mill. Then the homeowner turned out to be a top notch tail gunner. I never had to wait for a log to be loaded or a board pulled. He even raked the sawdust smooth after ever log. We ended up cutting 2800 feet of 1x12x10,12&20' along with about 500bdft of 1x3's
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That's the kinda job that we all like to see. :)
You clean up nicely too. :D
Well 2 weeks ago I traded my LT35HD in for a LT40wide with the 38HP on it and man what a difference in machines. I cut a lot on the 35 and made some money with it but the 40 wide is a big step up for sure. Cut some hackberry, black walnut, and Dutch
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elm last weekend with it
Very nice Deere, and congrats on the new Sawmill.
No problem with the leg Peter. Stitches come out Friday. Guess I'll get Dr Marty to remove them. ;D
MM...I bought 2 boxes of the 7 degree turbos and wow are them nice. I still am trying to get my speed dialed in on different species of wood because I am getting harmonics in the blade which gives a guy the washboard look on some of my cuts. I am not used to traveling that fast thru the cut and I think when I slow up is when I get the harmonics in the blade. But some cuts it will have the washboard look for a foot then smooth then it comes back so I guess I will just have to do some tweaking to get it dialed in.
Work with it, blade tension may be affecting it.
I'm running 2800-3000 and that's what they recommend so it will just take me a little time to get things dialed in.
Check the clearance of the blade screw above the top of the band. It's supposed to be 1/16". Make sure your band is under it whenever reloading a sharp one.
Quote from: terrifictimbersllc on August 21, 2019, 05:18:53 PM
Check the clearance of the blade screw above the top of the band. It's supposed to be 1/16". Make sure your band is under it whenever reloading a sharp one.
I will do that tonight when I get home, thanks for the tip.
I had my turbo 7°s sharpened and I like them better and getting more footage from them.
Nothing exciting nor otherwise from me tonight. Got rained out about 4:00PM and had to leave the sawmill uncovered plus 2 Logrites are spending the night with the sawmill. I had to get the truck up the hill pronto or I would also be spending the night with the sawmill. :o It should dry out and be firm by morning.
I counted about 75 more 11' logs to cant out so I will be back next week. That plus there are more trees that will be grubbed out as they continue to clear the additional acres.
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Big old pine log on the LT 40. Cutting a small order of boards for a customer.
Thank you Lynn!
I love my turbo 7's and thought I was getting another box of them Friday as I passed through Portland. I stopped at WM to talk about some issues with my mill and they comped me 6 new blades. Instead of breaking up a box, I bought the rest. I was all excited to finish off the last few 7° blades I had with me so I could open the new box of turbo 7's. To much disappointment, I ended up with another box of regular 7° blades. Now I have 45 4° and 45 7° with only about 12 turbo 7's. I guess it's going to take awhile to phase everything out and end up with just the turbo ☹️ But it's hard to complain about 6 free blades 😁
Some highlights from my most recent job, and first mobile job. Boy the learning that went down ;)
Logs and first beam. Logs were larger than ordered thru scaler which made things interesting.
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Guy I was working for, squaring a log that was too big for the bandmill
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Starting to pile up the beams
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Big cant ready to go
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Very, very handy way to separate two big cants to load one off. tap wedge in, slip T-bar tip in and lever up.
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Testing max capacity of throat depth, 12". Had to add wedges to the dogs to move the cant towards me 1" so cover would not drag
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Widest Fir cut so far
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Something very satisfying about flipping a cant up, trimming to 20 1/4, then cutting 18 1/8 and 12
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Second load
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Got in the dog house leaving slab/waste pile too high
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The rest of the job, starting tomorrow am. The mission to get max yeild of 2x10,12,14,16, random length
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Gotta have some fun too ;)
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I am sawing a big old nail.
Quote from: Crossroads on August 21, 2019, 11:30:47 PMI ended up with another box of regular 7° blades.
You should be able return that box of 7° blades whenever you go back to Portland.
Very nice "first road trip" job quadracutter222. 8)
Ouch richhiway. :-X
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I am sawing a big old nail.
Did the blade rise on its own or did you raise the head to save out the last bit of the beam?
Usually when I hit metal my blade tends to dive. I have hit my blade guard and knocked the set off the top teeth and my blade rose in that case.
It just went up on it's own.
I've had it go both ways. More often down but sometimes up. I think it is easier for it to go down because the guide rollers push down on the blade and limit how much it can travel up.
I was up sawing a nice job yesterday, 1 hr to set up and 30 mins to tear down. 3 hours of sawing. All nice red oak. No quartersawn which is to bad as there was at least 1 nice size log for it. Mainly 10\4 and 8/8 slabs, edged on one side, makes nice book matched table tops.
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Quad..... impressive load of beams.
Stephen1.... that's an awesome setup.....don't loose your balance!. Creative.
You really elevated yourself on that job!
Milling more ash slabs sold 4 right off the mill
My sales are down only selling 1/4 of what I'm used to.
Have some of the best products I have ever had.
Shutting the mill down next week going to firewood till it picks back up.
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I've been sawing 4 or 5 days a week since the first of August.
We took July off and have been making up for it since.
I'm approaching 20,000 board feet for the month. Here are a few photos of cedar, walnut and quarter sawn oak. The dead stacks were properly stacked and stickered within a couple hours.
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20,000 bf is a whack of stickering :).
Drove home this evening, have tomorrow off, and will drive back to my "sand pit" job Sunday evening and be ready to saw Monday morning. They were grubbing trees when I left this afternoon.
Funny thing happened this afternoon. I previously told about the project managers for different buildings competing for timbers. Well yesterday one needed six 4"X 8". I bucked them yesterday evening and sawed them this morning. Another project manager scooped them up early this afternoon so guess who probably was badly ticked off when he discovered "his" timbers gone. He will probably have something to say Monday morning, but I only saw. Whoever gets them is left up to them.
I am just hoping that I can finish next week and get back to my normal 1-2 day jobs. This "supposed to be part time job" is getting to be full time. :-X PatD plans to spend at least a couple of days with me next week which will be good. :)
Make sure you don't end up in the cage with that big dude. Give him the timbers he wants! But I'm sure he's a good guy at heart.
Squabbling like a bunch of crows over a dead possum in the road ;D.
Actually the big cage guy is the one that got them. :D
Quote from: Magicman on August 24, 2019, 07:58:14 AM
Actually the big cage guy is the one that got them. :D
That's perfect. Keep him on your good side so you have a tag-team partner when the other guys come for you.
Alan
At least they aren't " hijacking" timbers and then returning a few days later to ask for a resaw size on them. Ugh!
I'd rather fish in the rain but wound up sawing in the rain today. Three hours this morning and two and a half this afternoon. We took a three hour break for the rain to move through.
We did just under 200 board feet an hour sawing pine 1x and 2x. It was slightly slower this afternoon because the customer saved the pecker poles for last. He also changed his tune mid-day from "a little wane is okay" to "edge all the boards square".
It was a good hourly job with six helpers around the mill! I rarely had to touch a log, cant or board.
I am back in the "sandbox" for another week. The forecast is showing 50% chance of thunderstorms tomorrow so we will see how it goes. There are certainly enough logs to keep me busy.
PatD is coming Tuesday and staying until Friday AM which is good. smiley_love
Quote from: Magicman on August 25, 2019, 09:24:26 PMThe forecast is showing 50% chance of thunderstorms tomorrow
That will wash the sand off the logs ;)
Yup and wet them so that the next layer will really stick. My leaf blower is doing quite well. ;D
Storm front moving through so no sawing for me this morning and possibly today. It looks good for the remainder of the week.
Unless they grub more trees I will finish this sawing session this week. I hope so because I have other sawing customers that are getting anxious.
More Beech Live Edge Slabs with CSM. Maybe some candidates for River Style.......
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Quote from: Magicman on August 27, 2019, 07:50:36 AMStorm front moving through so no sawing for me this morning and possibly today.
The storm was a non-event and I was sawing by 8:00. I finished everything that he had brought up so they will be grubbing trees in the morning. He is now talking about sawing some trees/logs that are ~100 miles away. Guess that I will find out this week.
A 100 miles closer to home? Or from your home?
The property is about 100 miles closer to home but I do not know yet whether I will saw the logs there or if he will haul them here. The lodging conditions are almost nonexistent there. Maybe I will find out this week.
Quote from: Magicman on August 27, 2019, 08:52:12 PMThe lodging conditions are almost nonexistent there.
Tell him to "build it and you will come" :D
Have Sawmill, Will Travel.
Couple of clips I shot yesterday.
NOT a pretty log, but I didn't have any Deodar Cedar, I do now. :)
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Ugly log but pretty wood.
My cut list will be 4"X 6" today.
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But first the trackhoe will have to drag this one to the top of the hill.
The skidder showed up and drug the tree up the hill.
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And positioned it nicely.
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Sand? What sand?
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All that I see is that it needs measuring.
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And maybe the buck line needs a bit of brushing. ::)
Lynn,
Looks challenging. :D
My thoughts/concerns on this project you are doing are about the quality of the housing if these guys are slapping up green beams as fast as you can produce them. No reflection on you as you are producing what the client wants but I wonder about the construction quality issues. I guess time will tell and I have certainly lived in worse places I bet.
8/4 by 28"-32" wide Pine slabs. Customer making a large table for herself. She sold 5 slabs on facebook while I was milling!
Turbo 7°'s cut wide, smooth, flat, and fast!!!!
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a little warm today!!!
Quote from: Magicman on August 28, 2019, 10:39:56 AM
The skidder showed up and drug the tree up the hill.
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OK MM, all due respect, but 'DRUG" (or dragged) IMPLIES that the log would be above the surface. This appears to have been 'submarined' up the hill
Depends upon how far South that you are to use "Colloquial" English. ::)
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I was glad to get that tree bucked into 11' logs. smiley_sweat_drop
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So glad that after showering I enjoyed a Catfish plate with Turnip Greens and Cole Slaw. food6
Quote from: Magicman on August 23, 2019, 10:22:01 PMFunny thing happened this afternoon. I previously told about the project managers for different buildings competing for timbers. Well yesterday one needed six 4"X 8". I bucked them yesterday evening and sawed them this morning. Another project manager scooped them up early this afternoon so guess who probably was badly ticked off when he discovered "his" timbers gone. He will probably have something to say Monday morning, but I only saw. Whoever gets them is left up to them.
Well it got even funnier. I found out today that after the Big Guy got the timbers and hauled them to "his" building the Mexican crew "stole" them and used them on "their" building Saturday. I kinda wondered Monday and Tuesday what had happened and then today the Big Guy was needing 4"X 8" timbers. ::) :D
I finally sawed a little this afternoon. It was not without challenges. A guy stopped by yesterday evening wanting several dark, rustic, one inch thick, one live edged pieces at least 10" wide. I did not have anything that appealed to him already sawn. He is going to use it outside so I suggested that I pull a live oak log out of the pond and saw it. We have had a considerable amount of rain lately and my attempt to retrieve a suitable log without getting wet were fraught with failure.
First I drove the tractor into the pond as far as I deemed reasonably responsible without coming close to any logs. Then, I took an anchor off of my offshore boat and began dredging the bottom with it hoping to snag one and pull it close enough to pick with the tractor's forks- no dice. At last, I got into the canoe and attempted to get a rope on a log but they were too deep so I bailed out and felt around with my bare feet until I located a suitable log that felt like a live oak on top of a pile several feet below the surface. A rope was cinched around one end and it was dragged up and to the shore where a chain was then wrapped around it and extracted from the pond.
I was a little apprehensive about how well it would cut since lately, unlike most who are using them, I have had a real difficult time getting our turbo 7's to produce flat longleaf pine boards. The oak, even though it was felled almost two years ago, sawed like it was dropped today. The wood sawn today was much flatter than the last longleaf I butchered with the same new blade last week but still not perfectly flat (I guess it is time to go back to 4° bands). The wood had incredible grain and thankfully the customer was ecstatic. Most were 14- 16" with one live edge. The pictures do not accurately show how vivid the figure was.
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So does this mean next year at Jakes we are going to have a class on tree identification using one's feet? :o
We'll start by taking our dendro walk barefooted. We can leave our boots on his porch so they will stay dry. I am really good at identifying green briar and black berry bushes barefooted and I suspect I could get black locust and Hercules club as well.
Once when trying to help a friend get a truck unstuck from a pond back during the high school days I stepped on what felt like a log with rough bark...and then it squirmed from out beneath my foot. A little while later we saw a small gator swimming around the stuck truck.
Cut around 700 board feet of cherry and maple 5/4, 8/8 and 12/4 live edge today. One section was just too big for me to cut. It was 34" plus wide. My customer is going to have it slabbed by another sawyer with a 60" CSM.
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There are not many that can ID a log with ones feet, underwater, and blindfolded. It takes years and years of experience. So far, though, when I ask someone if they can ID a tree by the bark I have never had anyone take off their shoes and feel the stem with their feet. Not yet, anyway :D.
I guess for a dogwood you would have to at least take your earbuds and or hearing protection off. ... to ID it by its' bark! :D
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on August 28, 2019, 11:08:45 AMMy thoughts/concerns on this project you are doing are about the quality of the housing if these guys are slapping up green beams as fast as you can produce them. No reflection on you as you are producing what the client wants but I wonder about the construction quality issues.
It's not nearly as haphazard as it may seem. I started sawing for this project in February, 2018, and there are some very rigid inspections that must be satisfied before the units can be occupied. I am sure insurance as well as the city inspectors and lending institution.
All of the timbers that I have sawn have been used for porch posts, (4"X 8", 8"X 8", 6"X 12", and 12"X 12") as well as the 4"X 6" that serves as the framing for the screened back porches. I do see much surface cracking/checking but I have not seen any crooked posts.
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Falling another Red Oak this morning,
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And the "skidder" bringing the de-limbed log to me for bucking and sawing.
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A different skidder bringing more logs.
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Today's whack measured and marked for bucking.
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The de-limbing causes some damage. This one probably would have been an 8X8. but now it will only be a 4X6.
I'll saw his last logs and finish this job up Saturday. My next sawing for him with be sawing trees/logs/timbers that are on property only about 100 miles from home.
For now it will be sawing from home and catching up on the 1-2 day jobs. :)
Quote from: WDH on August 29, 2019, 08:10:10 PM
There are not many that can ID a log with ones feet, underwater, and blindfolded. It takes years and years of experience. So far, though, when I ask someone if they can ID a tree by the bark I have never had anyone take off their shoes and feel the stem with their feet. Not yet, anyway :D.
Danny, I remembered about where I put them a year and a half ago and they sunk like stones. Most of the pine is stashed in the middle of the pond. The bark of a live oak feels quite a bit different than that of longleaf pine. Rather than putting dry socks on wet feet, I went ahead and sawed and stacked the wood barefooted. I found some really enthusiastic fire ants that were looking for higher ground and evidently the gratification they receive when they execute such a well timed attack.
When my forestry kids think they are pretty good at identifying trees by looking at the leaves, I challenge them to do it with their eyes closed - it will improve the way many of them key them out and cut out some careless mistakes. It is amazing what they can smell, taste or feel and often they end up with the right answer.
If this storm keeps coming, there will likely be a lot of blow downs to saw. The ground is already saturated- I had to import dirt to bury an armadillo this week.
It looks like Mississippi is going to have to plant some more trees after Magicman gets finished with this job.
What does a big old snapping turtle feel like bare footed? :D
Quote from: Southside on August 29, 2019, 09:50:06 PM
What does a big old snapping turtle feel like bare footed? :D
That one's "Bite" is worse than its "Bark"......
Quote from: caveman on August 29, 2019, 09:45:32 PM
Quote from: WDH on August 29, 2019, 08:10:10 PM
There are not many that can ID a log with ones feet, underwater, and blindfolded. It takes years and years of experience. So far, though, when I ask someone if they can ID a tree by the bark I have never had anyone take off their shoes and feel the stem with their feet. Not yet, anyway :D.
Danny, I remembered about where I put them a year and a half ago and they sunk like stones. Most of the pine is stashed in the middle of the pond. The bark of a live oak feels quite a bit different than that of longleaf pine. Rather than putting dry socks on wet feet, I went ahead and sawed and stacked the wood barefooted. I found some really enthusiastic fire ants that were looking for higher ground and evidently the gratification they receive when they execute such a well timed attack.
When my forestry kids think they are pretty good at identifying trees by looking at the leaves, I challenge them to do it with their eyes closed - it will improve the way many of them key them out and cut out some careless mistakes. It is amazing what they can smell, taste or feel and often they end up with the right answer.
If this storm keeps coming, there will likely be a lot of blow downs to saw. The ground is already saturated- I had to import dirt to bury an armadillo this week.
It looks like Mississippi is going to have to plant some more trees after Magicman gets finished with this job.
Burying all that good eating? Actually I'd think the gators would take care of it if you dropped in the river.
Quote from: caveman on August 29, 2019, 09:45:32 PM
It looks like Mississippi is going to have to plant some more trees after Magicman gets finished with this job.
Two major Environmental Deforestation issues currently, the fires in the Amazon and MM in Mississippi :D.
Some nice 18" wide 5/4 pine, local guy wants to stockpile a bunch to see if he can make it dry flat, I told him dry stickers and weight...Question, What would you guys charge for this? Local box store has "select" pine (more knots than these) for about 4.75 bd ft for 12" wide. I`m thinking 1/2 that would be fair..... Too high? too low?
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Milled some 9/4 and 5/4 RO live-edge for a local Country Club that lost a "Special" tree. They plan to make benches for the golf course and plaques for members.
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alan, you prob. know I am a hobbyist, but you cannot buy a 18"wide 5/4 board at a big box store so do not sell yourself short. your log or his? at least make sure you get something for your time and equipment. cheers
thanks, my logs..when you do the math at 2.30 bd ft I say thats a pretty darn nice piece of wood for 47.00....
700 board feet of spalted maple This morning. For the month of August the tally shows a little more than 21,000 board feet sawn.
Four mantels and the rest is 5/4.
The middle photo is of my first broken blade!
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Some 8x8x4ft blocking for a local building mover. Sure glad I don't work for him, them suckers is heavy!!!
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The TimberKing and I traveled to a custom saw job near Glenwood Iowa today. I had an excellent client with decent logs. He had the logs all lined up and positioned perfectly. He even had all the bark removed, and had plenty of good help.
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We produced over 1400 bf of walnut and white oak lumber, and we were done by 2:30 pm. We also only used 2 blades for the whole shebang ( Turbo 7's). Client also had a neighbor who brought two logs for me to saw. His material is in the trailer below. Too bad one of his logs had ring shake real bad so a lot of material was lost from that log. The neighbor requested some 3" thick live edge slabs and was not disappointed in what he recieved.
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We even found a spectacular Curly Walnut log in the pile. It was simply amazing in character. Below is a sample of the first few boards off of it.
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The client who is a retired cabinet maker was happy with his product. I got a nice tip, and I'm guessing he will be calling me again in the future.
Tomorrow we travel to Minden Iowa and get to saw Walnut again! :) :)
I wish my regular job was this enjoyable.
Good looking stuff Doug. 8)
I am out of the "sand box" for now and brought the sawmill home. The customer said that he had property/logs only ~100 miles from home for his next sawing which will be nice.
I totaled up what I had sawn so far for him:
12X12's = 88
6X12's = 88
8X8's = 176
4X8's = 264
4X6's = 660
I long ago lost count of how many wire brushes we destroyed and how many times I sharpened chainsaw chains. That plus how many sawmill blades I used. I bucked all of the logs at 11'.
All of my time including marking, bucking, brushing, & sawing was charged at my normal hourly rate.
DPatton that's the way you want a job set up, Good job sawing. smiley_thumbsup
Good to be out of the sand I bet Magicman. For me to do that job I would have 2x my hr rate
of $125.00 an hr plus the rest. Is the next job in the sand too?
Thankfully I will be out of the sand box. ;D
Fortunately for me, all of my sawing is done a quarter mile from home, because that's where the mill is bolted to the slab. :)
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Jimmy wanted 2 6x8 x8 beams he needs them to load his half scale steam tracktor with
The B.I.L Kirk is happy with his free lumber well not free he helps me with a lot of stuff
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And the guys at the lake are happy with the pine fire wood
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And this is my edger line not stright but it works for me
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Single blade edger and a table saw at the end of that table
You've been sorta busy there Ken.
Looks like my first job out of the "sand box" will be SYP Tuesday. The forecast says 96°. smiley_sun
Today's saw job was quite different than yesterday's. Today's customer was wanting mostly live edge slabs instead of all edged boards. Lesson learned today on my part ::)... always let the customer know to keep the logs as clean as possible. Today's logs had been moved around several times on bare dirt. The bark was packed with dirt and sand. Ruined a blade on my very first pass this morning and dulled several others due to the dirt. Live and learn I guess. Here's a few photos from today's site.
Walnut and ash live edge slabs, boards, and mantel pieces.
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Below the TimberKing is almost ready to head home.
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Another shot of the lumber piles. Another lesson learned ::) ::) is how many helpers the client needs based on his cutlist. Yes, I did help lift all of the bigger slabs off the mill and dead stack.
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Today I went through 4 blades (Turbo 7's and Kasco 4's). :D :D Unfortunately neither blade will stay sharp in sand and dirt clogged bark.
On my way home this afternoon I stopped in Nebraska City and did a quick one log job for a young man who has been after me for a few weeks. I had given him a little bit of a high estimate with mileage and ample time for sawing because you just never know. It was more than he could afford as the guy is young and not made of money, but he has been so anxious to get this one log sawn I told him we would work it out. It had been a profitable weekend and the more I talked with him the more I started to like him and his enthusiasm for the wood. I cut him a sweet deal for one hour work. Pulled his log into position with my pickup, setup, saw, and tear down with no travel time. He had just enuf cash to cover my one hour, and was a very happy camper when I left.
goose63 What do you charge for sawing the cab off the truck?
Tuesday evening I'm heading to a job in Louisiana (160 miles away) for a couple days of sawing Wed/Thurs.
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Maybe fishin' a shady bank would be better than sawin'. Hot!
Quote from: donbj on September 01, 2019, 09:49:17 PM
goose63 What do you charge for sawing the cab off the truck?
Depends if I kike the guy its free if not its big $$$$$$$$$$$ :laugh:
First Non-log milling.....had to get creative with the clamping. The board spans two bunks which is clamped with the mill. The burl is held down with two scraps and 6" GRK timber screws.....triple checked to be lower than my lowest slab cut.
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Sometimes you have to try something different just to keep things interesting. I tried something different for a change and while I found it was pretty interesting it was also certainly a challenge. These are the biggest logs I have ever tried to saw up. The 5 logs were right at 2000 bdft and of course way too big to saw as is, heck I couldn't even move them with my tractor. It took 3 saws, 3 gallons of saw gas, and 6 chains but I managed to get it done in about 6 hours. I used a friends 046 with a 24" bar man I like that saw, I used my 036 quite a bit too since I had extra chains for it but just one for the 24" bar.
I may have to get a 046 saw one of these days that thing just ripped thru the logs. I still have to saw them but at least they are in manageable pieces hoping for some nice quarter sawn lumber.
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Wow quadracutter, those are some "nasty" burl slabs. I can send you a self addressed "to-go" box. ;D
Lotsa fun work SW. :)
Yeah, I was finally out of the sand box and back to regular sawing this morning.
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Fifteen 12' SYP logs scattered about.
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But no problem 'cause John showed up. ;D
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The bark peeled off of all of the logs nicely.
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Our Fall flock of Lovebugs are here. :-\
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85 ea. factory dimension 2X4's got away before I could get a picture but I did get a shot of the 115 ea. 1X6's as they were leaving. I finished at 1:30 PM and ruined two blades with 3 nails.
Good days work.
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I picked up to nice loads of pine. Time to get sawing.
Sawed a few pine sticks last Thursday and Friday. Ended up with 3500 BF of 8 ft 1x of various widths ranging from 6" to 12" with most at about 8". Rickie and his boys are top notch tailers.
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A little foggy to start off Thursday morning but it burned off quickly.
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Good job in a very nice setting Lee. Looks like you have also continued to trim. smiley_thumbsup
Wonder why that sawmill looks familiar?? :) Since I long ago removed my board dragback, that table looks strange. ::)
Made my first attempt at quarter sawing a red oak it was 32" on the but end and 29" on the front. Here is a couple of pic with it on the mill and cut in half and 1 quarter on the mill only got that half of it sawed Monday. Hot here in E. Texas 100 plus so will be Sat a.m. before I finish.
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Quote from: Magicman on September 04, 2019, 07:27:41 AM
Good job in a very nice setting Lee. Looks like you have also continued to trim. smiley_thumbsup
Wonder why that sawmill looks familiar?? :) Since I long ago removed my board dragback, that table looks strange. ::)
Lynn,
I might as well have left the table off. We never used the drag back. The guys were pulling the boards off the other end as I jigged back for the next cut. The mill site is two neighbors up the road from from me, may 1/4 mile. Philip is the owner and the guys tailing were Rickie and two of his sons, but mostly Rickie. The only time they ever stopped was when they were waiting on me. Hard working guys I have know since we moved up here, and good friends to boot. This job was a freebie. The boards will be used to reside a 100' x 30' sheep barn.
Yup, since I only saw portable and always have customer's, etc. tailgunning, I want everyone and everything done in front of me so that I can see for safety reasons.
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This was a salvage tree that was growing over an apartment complex and had lost a big branch in a storm here a few weeks back and the owners decided it needed to got before any more came down on the roof. It was 53" at the flare but then tapered down to about 40"x45" It was 17' long long and weighed 10,780 lbs. I cut it to 8'6" and wrestled it on the mill there was a lot of black/mineral streaked wood but I only hit a small piece of wire way on the outside, so I'm not sure what was gong on? Ended up with a 24". Fun project but a lot of work messing with something that big! It had been struck with lightning at least 3 times and I got some interesting slabs out of that side.
You da man. I couldn't imagine turning that brute with the limbs sticking out or even after it was flat side down.
WOW!!! Like to see the big ones.
Busen.... That's impressive! 👍
I am sawing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!
Betcha Linda says that you are sawing in your sleep. smiley_sleeping
SYP, live-edge milling in Louisiana (4/4 and some 8/4). Customer will use for live-edge siding on different buildings on the property.
What I thought was going to be a 1.5 day job, we were able to knock out in one long day.
Thank you @YellowHammer (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=11488) , @Magicman (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=10011) , @WDH (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370) for giving me question/answer assistance for this job.
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Quote from: petefrom bearswamp on September 05, 2019, 10:54:03 AM
I am sawing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!
Well then pete get a can full of worms and go fishing :)
E-Tex,
Excellent job,
Wonderful view.
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Started on those two trailer loads of pine. And fixed the mill after I broke it. Check my other thread.
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I can almost remember a time I would have been eager to tackle that one! I can certainly remember the reasons I would not now! Thumbs up!
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Quote from: Magicman on September 04, 2019, 07:27:41 AM
Good job in a very nice setting Lee. Looks like you have also continued to trim. smiley_thumbsup
Wonder why that sawmill looks familiar?? :) Since I long ago removed my board dragback, that table looks strange. ::)
Lynn,
I might as well have left the table off. We never used the drag back. The guys were pulling the boards off the other end as I jigged back for the next cut. The mill site is two neighbors up the road from from me, may 1/4 mile. Philip is the owner and the guys tailing were Rickie and two of his sons, but mostly Rickie. The only time they ever stopped was when they were waiting on me. Hard working guys I have know since we moved up here, and good friends to boot. This job was a freebie. The boards will be used to reside a 100' x 30' sheep barn.
Nothing will make or break a day of sawing more than the tailers. Good tail gunners will keep you at the controls and the saw head making dust. Bad ones make for some expensive lumber.
Since I am/was sorta "under the weather" today with the tooth situation I decided to make a couple of pre-surveys on a couple of upcoming sawing jobs. Something that I don't normally do, but these two sounded "not normal".
The first was a visit to a Very Valuable Walnut log that the customer had felled yesterday but has not actually seen himself.
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Well at least it has character. :o
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Plus metal. ::)
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And the trunk will make a 4' and a 7' "log". I sent him these pictures but have not heard back from him yet.
Next on the journey was a huge Red Oak log.
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Yup, it's a full grown boy.
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With a 43" butt!!
After much head scratching, measuring, and marking, we decided to lop 2' off of the butt end and make four 8½' logs. That way we will dodge the butt flairs as well as the knotty stuff on the top end. It will all be 1X6 for flooring.
It was a day well spent plus PatD and I had a very enjoyable time together.
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Quote from: petefrom bearswamp on September 05, 2019, 10:54:03 AM
I am sawing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!
Well then pete get a can full of worms and go fishing :)
So Goose, you're telling Pete to go drown worms? Is this kind of talk even allowed on this forum? :D
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Journeyed 20 miles over to our local/regional airport to do a sawing demo for our regional USDA folks. Turnout was not great but real nice folks and they fed us lunch and I got to visit with new friends. They had an 8' & a 10' poplar log (8' one next to mill hiding behind the center log) and a 10' RO log that was about 16" SED.
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I set up in an organized fashion. Good level ground, partly cloudy with 5-10 mph breeze and about 75 degrees F so nice day for it.
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I brought along a primitive bench, a couple tomato stakes, a thin 2" lath/project board, a small crate and my samples of 1 bf (a 1"X12"X12", 2"X4"X16", 2"X6"X12", 1"X4"X36", 1"X6"X24"), etc.
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I even set up a tarp for the sawdust collection to make cleanup easier and more complete
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Sawed some stickers then 4/4 lumber. The RO was mostly 1X10. One of the USDA employees was going to use some or all to wall in a porch or some such project his wife wanted done. Total yield about 216 bf.
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My next door neighbor was making chains saw art and sawed a bear cub on a stump and a pumpkin while we watched. I see him at flea market demos fairly regularly and he is real good at it.
I returned home and I think I will just leave the mill hooked up and take it to a local flea market tomorrow as an advertising gimic. I'll take out the tools I don't need and add a couple more benches and some odds and ends and hope the mill is an eye catcher and conversation starter. We will see if that works out. Kind of like old Popcorn Sutton (I think that was his name) on the Moonshiners show who told his proteges "You can't sell it if they don't know you've got it".
Cut most of this order for 150 white oak 4/4x6x8 and 75 5/4x6x8 on Friday. I finished the last of it this morning and quit before it got too hot.
The customer will send a check and a truck truck in the morning.
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Ted,
5/4 X 68? Seems unusually short to cut for an order. Was he making a fence or something? I gather it was random/assorted width since you did not specify. Do you charge extra for cutting short lengths like that?
Typo :laugh:
5/4 x 6 x 8'. While I don't ask many times, this customer is building fence. I fixed the typo. :D
Working on some oak this weekend that I've down had for almost a year now, sawed through a half dozen water oaks and then what I thought was a small red oak.
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Now I've never sawn red oak before, but I wasn't expecting this.
This should be the butt log from the same tree. What am I sawin?
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Money wood, you are sawing money wood. ;D
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Ran the mill after dinner tonight and got a stack of 1X10X10 a 3X6 I need for a project and a few trim boards for the sawmill shed. Not bad for a swayback pine log.
Barney, you are right. Your log is a red oak and a fantastic one at that.
Thanks Danny! smiley_thumbsup
What causes this pattern?
Quote from: SawyerTed on September 09, 2019, 08:56:13 PM
Typo :laugh:
5/4 x 6 x 8'. While I don't ask many times, this customer is building fence. I fixed the typo. :D
Fence? Then it should not be stickered. You want the oak as green as you can get it. Just my personal exp and from selling a few thousand fence boards. Green, wet, good. Dry..bad.
The customer is a contractor and very good repeat customer. He gets it how he wants it. He wants it stickered and banded. I don't argue, he pays very well. Besides fence boards he orders various other lumber nearly every month.
Red oak for trailer decking:
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Jim Rogers
Barney, I am not sure what causes that pattern. I have not come across that one yet.
Nice wood Jim.
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Osage orange ;D won't stick around long. It'd been dead 10 years but I think it was still worth it.
does it smell like bacon?!!! looks good enough to eat.
So beautiful!
Quote from: WDH on September 10, 2019, 08:42:23 PM
Barney, I am not sure what causes that pattern. I have not come across that one yet.
Reminds me of this aspen I sawed years ago
She's got some fine figure! in Sawmills and Milling (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=8144.0)
And some of it was made into this.
Bragging on Brian. in General Board (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=13171.0)
Quote from: Jeff on September 11, 2019, 01:24:59 PMReminds me of this aspen I sawed years ago
Jeff, that is some really cool stuff! Win! 8)
Well,those threads about Brian kept me drooling busy for a while.
Got out and pulled a maple and a locust log that had fallen across my pasture fence to my log pile. Then I went up and cut an 8' log off a recently cut poplar. It was about 13" SED. The man who does my Lichtenburg burning/engraving gave me a couple of bamboo poles at the flea market last week. I use them to check my catfish lines and had lost my last one. When I tried to pay him he said just bring him a live edge poplar board about so wide and half inch thick for a project he has in mind. I don't normally leave my poplar live edge so had to go cut him one. I cut it through and through at 4/4 and cut the one half inch near but not in the pith. I left one 4/4 and the 2/4 live edge for him and edged out 5 more 1X10s, 2-1X8's, and a couple of 1X6's. Boy is green poplar a joy to saw.
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Pretty little (Tulip) poplar log
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LE pieces on the loading arms payment for my bamboo fishing push poles. We love to trade things here in WV. :D He's happy and I am too so was a very good trade.
One of these days I hope to get one (or more) of these logs on my mill. I hear lots of goo things. Not sure what I would do with the wood, but it sounds like fun to mill.
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on September 14, 2019, 08:34:46 PM
Boy is green poplar a joy to saw.
It's also very wet and heavy when green.
Yes but proper stickering, air flow, weight on top and time will fix that. Poplar will certainly mildew if you you don't get enough air flow.
The wide live edge has picked back up again last week.
Not like it was 2 years ago but 4 or 5 wide ones a week.
Was out of wide pine so I sawed up a 10 ' pine log and got some nice 20" to 30" wide 2" thick live edge
2 of the widest are sold
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Congrats but I am wondering what's going on with the ribbon blade pattern. I realize that you are sawing wide, but feed rate too fast/slow, drive belt possibly not quite tight enough, wrong blade? smiley_headscratch
Two favorite things... Bacon.. and Osage. Nice busenitzcww.
MM
I have had that right from the beginning .
Turbo 7
I have been asking about it
Sawed up the remaining oak log with the crazy pattern this past weekend.
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Barney,
I think that oak is sick, maybe measles or such, and needs to be in quarantine far away in some place like WV. I think I have a spot where it will be safe if you'd like to bring it up or just hold it for me. :D
I grew up in Century Fla and we used play you guys in Football an eternity ago. I still remember a couple of brothers, the McTeers, if I am right, who were tough to catch or stop. I think one was name Houston and I forget the other. I don't know if they have any grandkids playing for Baker today. Stay safe.
Just yesterday, I finished a 30 red oak plank order for trailer decking.
Today, we moved some large diameter pine logs to the mill bunks.
Some idiot chopping going on with some of them.
I had to trim off many large branch numbs:
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And certainly not the straightest one of the bunch.
Jim Rogers
The next log has been sitting 10 months has nice beetle stain and aged color .
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Quote from: WV Sawmiller on September 17, 2019, 03:01:29 PM
Barney,
I think that oak is sick, maybe measles or such, and needs to be in quarantine far away in some place like WV. I think I have a spot where it will be safe if you'd like to bring it up or just hold it for me. :D
I grew up in Century Fla and we used play you guys in Football an eternity ago. I still remember a couple of brothers, the McTeers, if I am right, who were tough to catch or stop. I think one was name Houston and I forget the other. I don't know if they have any grandkids playing for Baker today. Stay safe.
I need to check with my son in law if he did any land clearing over a toxic waste dump last year. smiley_skull
George and Houston McTear, went to school with their younger brother, I think most of them moved out of the area. Haven't followed much lately but Baker is on a 30+ regular season game win streak and they beat Northview 14-12 last Friday.
I'm not looking forward to tomorrow's sawing job. 66 mile road trip but the real deal is that the forecast is for 98°. smiley_sweat_drop smiley_sun
Quote from: Magicman on September 17, 2019, 01:15:17 PM
Congrats but I am wondering what's going on with the ribbon blade pattern. I realize that you are sawing wide, but feed rate too fast/slow, drive belt possibly not quite tight enough, wrong blade? smiley_headscratch
Other than blade tension, likely drive belt tension. The drive belt may be running smoothly while not cutting, but is it still running smoothly while cutting or is it flapping around while cutting? If the belt is flapping around while cutting, this is feeding back to the speed of the blade speeding up and slowing down at the rate the belt is flapping about causing a ripple effect on the surface being cut. The faster the feed rate, the more likely this is to happen. Watch that belt, if it's flapping about while cutting, it needs to be tightened up a bit, smooth running belt, smooth cutting.
Hot today yes, but we still sawed.
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18 White Oak, Red Oak, and SYP.
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Oh Yes, there were a couple of Rock Oaks.
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And I must not forget the Cow Pie Oak.
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1226 bf of mostly 1X6's with a few 1X8's and 2X8".
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And my ~300 lb tailgunner/customer's butt log was dragging. OK mine too 'cause that 98° sunshine was brutal. Back tomorrow.
MM,
I feel for you. Was that 66 miles one way or round trip? Did you leave the mill set up or bring it home with you? Be careful and stay safe.
Along the lines of the old frying pan saying - Out of the sandbox into the gravel pit... :D
MM you must help roll those logs from way back as the 98 degree day goes on?
@Southside (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24297) :D
How right you are!!
Not as hot today and actually we were stopped at 3:00 this afternoon by a "pop up" storm.
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I didn't scale today's sawing but it probably was ~700 bf plus 15 live edged 9/4 X 12' to 16' ranging from 12" to 25" wide. One shown here by my tailgunner on the left and customer on the right.
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I left this bad boy on the sawmill for tomorrow morning. I will also finish that job tomorrow.
Lynn,
That is going to make it hard to steal the mill too. I like to leave a cant or log on the mill when I leave it on site overnight. This also answers my earlier question if you left the mill overnight.
I did not saw today but I did go pick up a walnut section today and have it on the mill to saw tomorrow. It was just long enough to fit across the center set of rails. I may try fudging a little to get the piece over a little to get the widest possible slabs off it. It is just over 30" long and about 25"-26" SED with some flare on the the other end.
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This piece was stacked by a loader on the stump of a bigger tree. I was able to back right up to it and walk it right off into my truck then strap it down to keep it from rolling out in front of a new Jaguar.
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Sasquatch driving baby John with the piece. Was hard to load as could only get one fork under as too short. Once I got the weight in the bucket we were golden.
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On the mill and with a little help from the movable clamp I was able to get the log across both rails. I have a 3X6 ash piece beside the side supports to keep the piece from fall off the operator side.
Hopefully I will get this sawed tomorrow.
Yup, I took that picture after it was loaded but actually I had opened two faces before the rain came and we stopped. The sawmill is ¾ mile from the road with a herd of ~50 cows watching it. ;D
I cut a small order for some 4x4 and 6x6 pine posts, a light enough load where I dont feel bad having a little fun and using the 57 to deliver them.
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Quote from: Bruno of NH on September 17, 2019, 01:47:36 PM
MM
I have had that right from the beginning .
Turbo 7
I have been asking about it
Faster Faster , start running after that mill or get a seat. I find i have to saw faster than I think. Try it, speed up and slow down as your sawing in the log and see what the difference is when you flip the board over. Also mainly in pine.
my understanding is the sawdust is rolling over or under the blade. I had it really bad on the 10's and normal 7's. turbo 7"s are better and 7 Carbides are the best. I just find the expense of running the carbides to much for all the urban logs I saw. Some of my regulars customers, furniture builders, will pay the extra for the Carbides. I can saw almost all day on 1 blade, saves them money of blade changing. I charge by the hour.
I'm gonna need help
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20 Ft long 26 inch wide I thought 16 feet was long enough I will call woodland monday and order more track and get some new Kasco 7s
And the flying pick up was back today
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Those old dug fer timbers saw hard
I got out and sawed on my walnut section for about an hour plus the extra time I spent turning and bracing it and finally gave it up after hitting the obligatory 20 penny nails someone used to tack up a yard sale sign years ago. I think I got 6 mediocre 8/4 LE slabs about 30" long and 22" wide for a whopping 55 bf. I stopped and was going to go saw some stock maple after lunch but got a call to go get my mower out of the shop so I just put everything up and did a little cleanup around the barn before tomorrow's lumber customer comes over.
I put this log on the mill right before quitting time.
Made 2 cuts
It's a big white pine but 46" 7'long.
I have had it 2 years
It will take some trimming.
I will post more pictures tomorrow.
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@WV Sawmiller (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=28064) the person that put the yard sale sign up must have not known that it takes at least 4 or maybe 6 nails to hold up a sign. Banjo
I finished sawing my latest road trip yesterday. 4370 bf in three day so it was a good job.
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An overloaded trailer with mostly 16' 1X6 White Oak with 8' 1X8 & 10 Cherry on top.
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SYP framing lumber.
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More 9/4 two live edge White Oak.
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And example of some of the amazing White Oak slabs. Bookmatched 18"X 6' slabs full of Carpenter Ants. thumbs-up
those ants really know how to dress up a board. will add interest as is, or filled with epoxy.
WV sawmiller, that would just make me more determined to finish it! Find each nail and pull it. Don't let it bead you!
Goose 63, I like your trailer. 3 axles should handle just about anything. How long is the trailer? I'm jealous. I hope to get a new trailer next year to haul a skid steer and I want to then put an arch on it. I've missed out on a number of logs I wanted because I couldn't haul them.
Brad the trailer is 16 feet the FF tool box says that log on there is close to 4 ton that arch did a great job loading the log
The big but log I posted about putting on the mill last night
46" on the but
Some live edge and 31" wide 2" thick planks
I have had this log for 2 years still solid as a rock
When the logs sit the white pine ages and the grain pops
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Brad,
You did not see the rest of the checks and season cracks in the piece which helped with my decision. I may keep it around for dunnage. :D
I did not saw any today but I did sell a couple hundred dollars worth of assorted lumber (Mostly spruce 8' X 4/4 ) to a guy who just drove past and saw my mill in the lot in front of my house and left a note on my fence as we were gone. He sounds like he may be back. That is the first time I know having the mill on display got me a sale although I know it is good practice. I need to park it there closer to the road and post a sign on it "Sawing and Lumber for Sale."
Today's challenge was to load and saw this 31" diameter by 6' long eastern white pine butt log.
I used my cable to pull it up to the mill log loader.
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on the way I had to pull out the exposed hardware:
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Once loaded I found some more:
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Been sawing a order for the US Army Corps of Engineers 12 by 12' s Oak and Hickory . They showed up yesterday for the first load and I have a bad case of Truck Envy.
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"I have a bad case of Truck Envy. "
I have a case of log envy to get them 12x12's
Tan bark oak. 263 board feet. 4/4 random width mostly live edge. 10'-12' long. This is beautiful wood. Looks very much like red oak. I had a very happy customer too. He gave me a nice tip too.
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Yesterday I sawed a small whack of ERC.
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He discarded ~6-8 of the smallest which will become fence posts.
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The shadow was strong but this is 1632bf that I sawed. Some very nice stuff that will become board and batten siding for a building. I was back at home by 3:00. ;D
Today's challenge is to trim all the branch numbs off this snake log and get it onto the mill and make some 1x12s. Such fun.
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This is the customer's last log, and then his custom sawing job will be done.
Moving on.
Jim Rogers
Hé Jim, the first knotty pine log would make nice live edge, providing extra sharp blades
A repeat customer brought me two 6x12x 7ft beams that he took out of his 200 year old home to cut into 1x12`s. I`m guessing they are some kind of pine but the one with the crazy grain was "interesting" to cut. The buildup on the blade happened almost instantly even with my water/purple degreaser on heavy. I cut the first one no problem but couldn`t get thru the second cut on this one, the blade dove. I backed out to make a slower run and the blade almost immediately rose. I put one a new 4 degree and got thru the last cuts but noticed blade starting to wander on the last one.
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Southern Yellow heart pine. What did they smell like?
Definately a lot stronger smell than any of the pine I`ve cut in these parts....really surprised at the amount of sap on the blade after all these years
Pretty typical down here. If you got a little split left over, put a match to it. Pretty volatile stuff. I use it to start every fire I make. As you noticed, the pitch remains pretty much forever.
@Jim_Roger one of those logs would go to my sawmill,the other for firewood for my OWB.
I have had an order from my local florist for some cookies for an upcoming wedding she is orchestrating/decorating. I have held off not wanting to cut them too early for fear they would crack. I talked with the lady again today and went out and cut the order. I used about 4' off a 12" stock log to cut 29 - 6/4 cookies. My max mill height is 32" and I lose several inches to clamp in my movable hydraulic clamp so I had to use 2 logs in this case. I have tried jigs and cutting multiple pieces and such in the past but IMHO simply clamping a single log directly in the clamp is the fastest and easiest ways to securely clamp a log upright. I got my wife to toggle the clamp lever while I held the log upright.
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Stock poplar log. Wood chip marks 3' to be cut off. This yielded about 22 or so 6/4 cookies so I cut another short log section to finish the order of 25. I sawed up the rest to the rails and threw them in for good measure (Also I had no other use for them). Total sawing time was less than 10 minutes. Most of the time is set up.
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Completed order ready for delivery. Customer was well pleased with them. Apparently a pair of cookies will be placed beside each pew on the aisle with a flower arrangement on top. We discussed cracking and the customer discussed shellacking them after the event to preserve for future use and I told her she could try that and it may slow the drying enough to prevent cracking.
those look great WV. i have found stacking them up like they came from the log, slows subsequent drying and splitting.
like they are in the back of your truck. i use a 2x6 on the back side and put a few screws into the bottom of the log to keep it from moving.
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you clearly need no advice.
Doc,
With the clamping system on my mill I don't do anything but stand the log up (It just rests on the little lip there) and clamp it tight. I've tried putting the 2X on the back and putting a board across the rails underneath and such but nothing was as steady as just a single log clamped directly in the mill. No screws or such needed. When I tried other systems, especially doing multiples, pieces came loose, I destroyed cookies, blades broke, I said bad words, and havoc reigned supreme. This works best for me. Once clamped it only takes seconds to cut each piece as I'm only raising the head a smidge and backing up a foot then hitting my simple set to lower to the next set point, cutting, grabbing the cut cookie and setting it aside and repeating. I can clamp a 3' long upright and probably have it cut into 1-2 inch cookies in about a minute. It does help to have a helper activate the clamp while I hold the log upright. That is the slowest and most difficult part of the process. I guess I could tie a string to the toggle handle and activate it myself but sure as I did I'd clamp my finger or other body parts in by mistake then not be able to free myself.
I cut off a small cookie off the top to square up the log and start the mark on my setworks and at the end of the process there is a 3-4 inch cookie left in the clamp to remove and discard.
At the florist's office I made 2 stacks upright just for stability. If any cookies crack it should only be the top cookie and I threw in 4 extras I think.
my clamp is not directly across from my hooks, or log stops so I need the back stop. i only use the screws for real odd or round small pieces. i just did a chunk of locust that was hollowed out, for frames or nature scenes.
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Doc,
I have sawed a few of those hollow pieces. I always refer to them as donuts. They actually dry better with less chance of cracking because the pressure seems to push to the hollow center instead of splitting like a solid cookie does.
I got out this afternoon and made another red oak lichtenburg engraved 4' LE primitive bench to replace a couple we put on consignment at a VA visitors center. One thing about the consignment, even if they don't sell quickly they provide free storage and I can go make some more. My wife put 45-50 photos of assorted sizes and items out for sale. We will see if they sell.
I felt like I was running a Wal Mart or Lowes store when I got back from delivering my cookies. A neighbor customer had come while we were gone and loaded up a load of slabs and came out of the pasture while we were unloading groceries. He stopped and paid me. I never even had to open a gate. I could get used to this self service no touch sales concept. Not a lot of money and I had told him before to come get them any time and just keep the gates closed to the horse and mule don't get out. He's an old farm hand and used to that. Not something I would offer to many people but I feel comfortable with this guy coming when he wants.
yes they should have a little room to shrink. I do not like the self serve line at WM. they still watch you and i just tell them I do not want to work there, and they help me out. i do not want to cheat them or me and I am not always sure that i do it right. we do the same with our neighbors. i think they believe my shop is a lowes, they usually stop here first to see if i have what they need. splitting and cutting some already seasoned logs, and burning some saw dust from the mill and wood scraps from the splitter. 20 degrees cooler and it will be just right for some cider and smores. fall is almost here in ks. much cooler at night. clouds pretty cool as the sun went down this eve.
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Doc,
I refuse to use the self check out. At Lowes it is even worse - they expect you to load a whole pallet of plywood by yourself and as often as not every single cart in the store is either out in the parking lot or in use as a store display somewhere. I used to tell them I will pay for my order and drive around back and they can load my truck/trailer with a forklift. I returned a roll of fence one time and they told me "Go drop it over there." I did then they came over and said "Oh, this is lawn and garden and you need to take it over there." I told them "No, this is your roll of wire and you can take it anywhere you want." I already had my return credit and I did not work for them either.
I've not been sawing much the last few weeks, I've been committed to getting the apartment livable before winter sets in. With work and limited time, it's been a challenge, but I'm gaining ground. I have 4 milling jobs on hold that I hope to get to before the snow flies, but I'm afraid they will have to wait until spring.
Doc, my mistake, I thought that the cloud picture was your slab and dust pile being burned.
hahaha. @CCCLLC (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=38093) I have been known to get carried away at times. that was just another Kansas evening. diesel fuel imparts a more bluish hue. 8) :D :D :D
Here is the pile of 1 1/2" boards from the 6' log and the metal I dug out of it to show him:
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And the pile of numbs I trimmed off the last snake log:
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I was cutting some 1x12s until I got rained out by a short shower Thursday afternoon.
Jim Rogers
Quote from: CCCLLC on September 28, 2019, 11:03:49 AM
Doc, my mistake, I thought that the cloud picture was your slab and dust pile being burned.
Actually that picture looked just like the inside of Jakes mill house when Doc touched off one of his "special" candles. :D
Pretty sure this is how it started
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Martha Milton knows how to light things up. . . and got lessons on how to use a drip torch from Jake.
Good thing she wasn't doing her fire bug act in the mill shed. 😨
How do you get rid of your wood waste @Jim_Rogers (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=95) ? Do you burn all your slabwood in a wood stove along with those thumbs? How are you getting rid of your dust and bark?
I forgot to mention,my Father would just about kick me in the seat of my pants if I left numbs on a log.He expected me to be well inside the bark. But he use to load trucks with a pevey. Much easier to roll a log without a 2 inch knot sticking out of the side of it.And a smooth log will not dig up the ground either and it's easier to haul out too.Same way with stumps,cut them low.
I never forgot the time that my older brother came and cut down some trees for firewood. These was good size trees,2 feet across at the stump easy. My Father had a fit about his stumps. He was afraid that someone would see them and think that he did not know how to cut wood. :o I almost thought he was going to recut the stumps.
To quote Mr. YellowHammer from the General tips for portable sawyers thread:
QuoteI tell customers it ain't a log until it will roll, and I only saw logs. Everything else gets returned or trimmed.
We lived in western ks for 8 years in Hays. it was interesting to ride along with an old farmer. not much to say unless they saw a field with the limestone fence posts not plumb and leaning. then it would never end hearing about how they would have never left it like that!!! @thecfarm (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=436)
Quote from: Resonator on September 29, 2019, 12:01:29 PM
To quote Mr. YellowHammer from the General tips for portable sawyers thread:
QuoteI tell customers it ain't a log until it will roll, and I only saw logs. Everything else gets returned or trimmed.
Yep, absolutely correct. I had a new guy deliver some cedar logs last week, but full of half trimmed 6 inch or so spike nub branches. I said exactly what I said in the quote above and told him I only buy logs and these aren't logs, these are just a mess. He got his back up and asked what he was supposed to do about it. I told him to bring a chainsaw and trim them or take them home. I'm a sawmill and I only saw logs. Logs roll, these don't, I don't want them until they will.
The simplicity of the statement gets the point across pretty quickly.
I missed that quote YellowHammer. I like that!!
Doc,how true that is. ;D
I also was the chain guy before we got the 3 point winch and bigger tractor. I knew how he wanted the logs hooked up. And they better be the way he would do it,or he would tell ya. But he was right. ;D
A couple days late, this weekend I had the mill out. It was my birthday weekend so I got to do whatever I wanted and Dad and I made lumber from sticks :)
500 bf of 6/4 Beech that will be used for my work bench in the shop and a stack of 8/4 White oak slabs. It took almost as long to slab the White oak as it did to cut all 500 bf of Beech. It was ugly and too big and too short for the normal backstops but we got it done. Should be some beautiful material once dry! All in all, it was a great start to the birthday weekend.
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Then last night we emptied the red maple that was in the kiln. Just a sample of one of the 6/4 x 22" wide x 10' long boards. These things need to be a table.
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Nothing really useful but it's the first time I've had something to post to this thread after reading it for so long
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Actually, Denim Pine will bring a premium these days.
Just smelling SYP sap is a good enough reason to click your heels together. 8)
Got some nice blue in it.
Raining today. No sawing but it was a good day to burn slabs.
Del some lumber, I don't del but he was a mile away.
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Truck envy!
A neighbor came by yesterday and just about wiped out my slab pile cutting it into 8-10 inch lengths. You can put a lot of wood on a pick up truck that way. He has a small wood and coal stove that uses the short lengths. He wanted another load and I joked with him I was going to have to cut some more wood so he'd have enough slabs for another load. Less than an hour latter a guy I met at a local flea market trip a few weeks back stopped and placed an order and left a deposit for 250 10'X 3" X 4/4 battens and several dozen 5/4 X 10' X 8" boards. All poplar and he knows it will be fresh cut. I got up this morning and cut down about a 28X30 inch poplar tree and started cutting 10' logs from the top to the bottom and pulled 5 down with my ATV. By the end of the day I had 101 of his battens and some rejects for projects or 8' battens for other customers. I may start keeping a stock pile of them as it looks to be a potential market. Just like I save my 1X4's and periodically someone will come buy them all to put under a metal barn roof. I cut the tree, hung a saw during bucking and returned with another saw a few minutes later to free it. In the 5-10 minutes I was gone an old doe and near grown fawn had already found downed tree and were munching on fresh leaves. During sawing, without even having an audience to blame it on. I forgot and still sawed into a side support. I don't remember ever doing that without someone watching. When I finished for the day I went back up and bucked the rest of the tree to log length. The old doe was back with 2 near grown fawns and they were very reluctant to leave. They evidently don't know archery season has been open 2 weeks around here. I will need the tractor to get the butt logs and that is still going to be a stretch. I also finished cutting the excess length off the legs of 2 LE white oak Mortise and Tenon benches I had been working on.
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First 3-10' tops. Not a lot of yield but okay for 1X3 battens
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Two more off another fork
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End of the day -101 battens on my order. (Okay go ahead and call the sticker police. I figured inadequate temporary stickering was better than flat stacking and possible mildew.)
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Rejects and project wood to use around my place. I'll get a few 8'X1"X6's to add to my stock for future sale/use and probably some 3-4 ft long battens or 1X3s for other use.
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Getting ready to cut the legs to 17" height on a couple of white oak benches. One pass and same height and angle for all - works great.
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Two benches ready for sanding and tung oil finish. One is 3' long other is about 30" and shortest one I ever built. There may be a better market for these smaller ones.
Total lumber yield for the day about 309 bf, at a whopping 110 bf/hr. Okay for small trashy logs and making battens and working by myself doing all the sawing, bucking and logging tasks alone. Yield will pick up tomorrow as I get to the bigger logs and start cutting some 5/4 X 8" X 10' stuff.
Went up and dragged down two more of the bigger poplar logs. I moved one big crotch piece about 3' long and it started rolling then started flipping end over end and finally stopped in a holler above my house. I was afraid it would keep rolling and punch a hole in the fence and end in a yard. I still have the 12' butt log up there to get down. It is real hairy getting a tractor up there and trying not to let it get away on the steep slopes.
I cut the first two logs into more 3" battens and cut the last one into 5/4 X 8" X 10'. I got 21 out of the log and only need 38 so the remaining log will finish the order. I also have 187 of 250 battens. Looks like the one tree will do the whole order. Today was 412 bf out of the 3 logs and bf/hr up to about 150 per hour vs 110/hr yesterday so the bigger logs and 5/4 lumber speeded things up.
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First 2 were battens. Had to trim around the splits. Back log was mostly 5/4 lumber
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Over half the board and 2/3's of the battens complete. The one remaining should finish the order if it doesn't finish me getting it down. There is actually a nice 9' log hovering over the brink that is too short but will be good for stock.
EDIT/Add-on: I got up and a heavy mist and sprinkling rain so I decided I better rush up and get my last butt log before the ground got too wet to get baby John (JD750) up the slope. I started to cut the log to 10' and even cut a couple of small stumps out of the way killing my freshly sharpened chain in the process. Finally decided to leave it full length (13') and hooked a long 1/4" cable to it, pulled a while till it got hung on a stump then hooked up a snatch block to re-position it. Got it near in place then the 1/4" chain holding the snatch block to the tree broke. I found my snatch block 50 yards down hill so the cable was plenty tight when the chain broke. I was barely able to get the tractor in place to hook a short cable on the log and finally headed down hill to the mill. A time or two I had to try to roll the log over to free it and due to its size and sweep I am seriously considering adding a 78" megahook LogRite to my tool list. Sure would have been nice today.
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Even with the sweep there should be over 300 bf of lumber here and probably enough to finish the order.
Did you leave any dirt on the hill?? :D
Doesn't look like it does it? Did I ever mention "I love my debarker". :D
What happened to that peavey? :o Or are you trying to distract the sticker police? :D
If someone can bend a peavey like that,I ain't about to call the police on him. :D
CFarm,
Put yours in the path of a 1600+ bf poplar and see if it doesn't bend too. :D Fortunately the bend is in line with the direction of use and I have not noticed any degraded performance.
I got out this afternoon and cut up my muddy log managing to get hung up twice due to excess width not removed in advance. That did not speed up my completion. I did complete the 5/4 X 8" boards and got a few more 3" battens. The order was for 10' but I left these 12' and if the customer is not happy with that I'll trim off the excess with a handy chainsaw. I still need to cut about 50 more battens to finish the order. I may have almost that in a stock log near the mill. Worst case I'll go cut another small poplar tree. I have one picked out to come down next in the path cleared by removing this big poplar.
EDIT/Add-on: When I tried cutting this log with the same blade I used yesterday I encountered some serious compression issues with a big hump from blade rising within the first foot. I put on a new/re-sharp 4 degree DH and that immediately fixed the problem.
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5/4 in foreground is complete. Battens in rear are 80% complete.
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Sampson checking out my slab pile which needs to be removed. Actually this pile is already sold. I need to either move the lumber or the mill to get a truck to it. Maybe I can prevent double handling it this time.
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on October 12, 2019, 10:20:25 PM
Put yours in the path of a 1600+ bf poplar and see if it doesn't bend too. :D
If I had done that, my Daddy would have told me that I could tear up an anvil ;D.
Danny,
We never had an anvil but my dad used to say I could break a crowbar. :D
I believe your Dad was correct.
Dad's usually are but it can take 30 years to figure that out.
Quote from: btulloh on October 13, 2019, 11:09:49 AM
Dad's usually are but it can take 30 years to figure that out.
iI am pretty sure we don`t have to wait 30 years, we can probably call this one now, :)
How many times has that wheeler rolled over? Yea - I think it's a safe call. :D
This is some crazy look grain in this burnt stump . (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/51223/71FF990C-F5FC-474D-9697-F21EF66E1E09.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1570999542)
looks like mulberry or hedge.
Quote from: Southside on October 13, 2019, 02:19:03 PMHow many times has that wheeler rolled over? Yea - I think it's a safe call. :D
Flipped end over end twice, rolled more times than I can remember. (For a fat old man I am pretty good about kicking free but last time it did roll over me - that smarted more than a little!) In every case I righted it, cranked it back up and rode it home. That is the second complete plastic body on it. it is a workhorse! Kawasaki 650 Prairie model.
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Cut 2 small, sweepy 10' logs off a stock poplar top and got 30 more 1"X3"X10' battens. I think I need 16 more. A repeat customer called and came and bought an assortment of lumber for his son and sidetracked me. Just before dark I got out and cut another poplar about 16"-18" at the stump. Of course it was leaning opposite where wanted to fall and I could wedge it enough to re-direct it so I got a snatch block and my 200'X 1/4" cable (Best $20 flea market find I even made!) and hooked the snatch block to a 10" maple, grabbed baby John, hooked up, took the slack out, one more nudge and it shifted and landed perfectly. I bucked a couple of upper 10' logs and used my beat up ATV to drag one to the mill so I am ready to finish the customer's order in the morning.
It's Chittum wood sorry if spelling is off . It grows in limestone rocks on the foot of the mountain around here North Alabama .This was a stump that was burnt hate to see thing go to waste .
Chittum wood. More commonly known as bumelia. Not a very common small tree. There is one in my backyard that @caveman (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=12883) immediately identified when he came by for a visit. Of course we had to do a walkabout and look at trees. He is the only person (among many that have seen it) that knew what it was. That impressed me, but then again, he is an impressive dude ;D.
Working my way through my stack of walnut. My only regret is that I couldn't get there in time to beat the excavators to it. The result is a lot of logs that look like this:
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Still better than none at all!
Okay, I sawed this one last log and completed my 942 bf order for 8" X 5/4 X 10' boards and 3" X 4/4 X 10' battens. I went ahead and called the customer and he should pick it up tomorrow. He thought he was going to use his pick up till I described the size and weight and he decided to borrow his buddy's double axle car hauler type trailer.
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Next decided to saw the below pictured locust curve for 8/4 LE benches.
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Two future benches (Maybe 3 if I change my mind and pull that other one out of the slab pile. BTW - dry black locust is very hard wood! :D
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Next I grabbed a very ugly poplar top and sawed it and got these 6 really pretty 7' 2X4's.
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Which after lunch promptly grew up into 2 nice 4' sawhorses (Okay - I did have to borrow 2-3' 2X4's laying around for 2 of the legs on the second bench. Still lots better than going on the firewood pile. The stretchers were reject 3" battens with wane on part of them. Work fine for this.
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All total one hour on the mill and 100 bf sawed.
WV, you have been productive.
I use marginal 2x4's to make our saw donkeys in a similar style to yours. The 2x's would not be good enough to sell but cut at 42" for the I-beam parts and 20" on 10° angles for the legs seem to work well and allow them to nest (stack). These are a good height to offload right off of the mill and work as a bench in a pinch.
The locust benches will be nice.
Cavey,
I never heard one called a Saw Donkey but short piece's of 2X4 work good for sawhorses and stacking pallets and I guess they could be used for table legs and such. I only have 20" forks on my FEL bucket so I use a lot of 2' wide pallets with 3 - 2X6's and the 2X4's vertical underneath. I guess I could use 1X material instead of 2X6s but I haven't tried that yet.
I found the design for these sawhorse on the internet somewhere and they work good only the plan called for all 2X4 and I find the stretchers don't need to be that thick and scrap 4/4 works fine. The width is easy to adjust. The legs are supposed to be 34" as are these but the short stretcher is supposed to be 21" and I find that is a little too long - probably because I am using full thickness 2X4 instead of dimensional 2X4's.
If we had the time and storage space we could all likely salvage a lot more short pieces of lumber out of our scrap piles.
This pine log was every bit of all my little John Deere wanted to pick up...and only just barely high enough to clear the bunks of the mill! It scaled out around 1100#. Heaviest log i've had on the mill yet.
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It yielded 18 2"x4"x10's and 10 or so 1" boards. Didn't get pics of the lumber but will add them when i do.
mike
first time posting pics but i think i got it right.
I got some good size balsam fir logs some 16" on the small end very little taper.
Started sawing them up for boards to sell just to have some thing different than pine.
I sold a lift of 10' long mixed width hemlock boards to a farm 2 towns over and delivered them this morning.
It will be a good connection.
Smiley didn't know what to think when see seen the alpacas :D she looked at me funny.
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Sawed out a butt log from some customer's tree this morning.
He wanted 5/4 pieces to the middle then two 9/4 slabs as wide as possible.
I don't think he understands the weight of these pieces.
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and the 5/4 pieces:
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I hope he can move them.
Jim Rogers
Oh, btw, I like wide!
And oh, btw, can you cut them thick too?
How long will they take to dry?
Maybe I can cut them in half so they're not so heavy.
::) ::) ::)
"Hurry up and cut them because I need to have those cabinets that I am gonna build with it ready by next month."
Saturday was dedicated to sawing wide slabs. The TimberKing and I traveled to Bellevue Nebraska to do custom sawing for a local tree removal service. They had a variety of logs with plenty of help and support equipment to get logs to the mill, and for offloading slabs. I'm glad I spent Friday changing blade belts, and fine tuning the blade roller guide adjustment for peak performance as we really worked the saw hard in wide cuts all day.
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Sycamore being turned into slabs.
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Cherry slab coming of the mill
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Stacking pine slabs
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Red oak with some crowd pleasing grain and color
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and a really nice, large Walnut slab coming of the mill
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One of numerous stacks of slabs
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Some of the slabs were quite heavy as the client had me saw 2", 2 1/2", 3", and even some 4" slabs. The back and feet definitely needed ibuprofen by the end of the day.
Looks like a good day.
@DPatton (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=33417) did you have any metal strikes in those slabs? Banjo
Quote from: Banjo picker on October 20, 2019, 05:04:21 PM
@DPatton (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=33417) did you have any metal strikes in those slabs? Banjo
Funny you should ask as I do have a damaged blade fee of $25.00. I actually questioned the client about potential metal from urban trees. He assured me that everything we were sawing came from an area where it was unlikely they would have foreign metal in them. We cut roughly 20 logs without finding any metal in any of them. So now for the funny part. I was so distraught by not hitting any tramp metal in any of the logs I felt obligated to zing the top of a log stop with what should have been my last blade of the day. :D
FF member Mike Dillon came over today with some good size white pine logs to slab on the lt40 wide one log we used a 4° band and the second a 747 .055 which cut much better . Banded and loaded his slabs up for transit back to his shop and mill.
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I remember Mr. Dillion and his Son at the Northern Project. Nice work.
Today Mike brought his chainsaw mill and I pulled a big pine butt crotch out of my stash.
Mike and my helper Pone (pony boy) started milling it up they will finish it in the morning.
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I like chainsaw mills when it is a young person using them!
Hey Bruno, how did you secure the ladder to the log?
Here pictures of one of my favourite customers.
He owns an Axe Throwing buisness and uses 14x14" poplar/aspen mounted in a metal frame.
He brings the logs in from the shores of lake Huron, about 3-4 hrs away. I saw 5.5x5.5 and 14" timbers. It's a great gig when when all we do is push everything onto the loader. some of these logs are so large his big Kubota can only push them across the ground.
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Buggutz
Pipe strapping over the rungs screwed to the top off the log.Shims added where needed.
Yesterday, I finished up an order of 8x8x2' red oak blocks for the paving company's processing plant.
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Today, I started back on eastern white pine timbers for a timber frame car port that will have solar panels on the roof to power the electric car.
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Jim Rogers
Wow Jim, you are just like a Timex. smiley_thumbsup
Today I was tackling a big 10ft clear Ash butt log. Plan is to RRQS it. It does have an offset pith, which is no matter with RRQS. I'll just get wider boards on one side. I started by chainsawing off as much of the swell at the butt as I could to get it down to 28", which is almost the max width of the mill. Then I made it into a cant, leveling the pith in each direction. Here you can see the off center pith.
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About to have a 4 sided cant.
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Now to gun barrel it by cutting the 45°'s. It's tricky on the manual mill. Lots of wedges, and careful balancing. A C-clamp to make sure the steel wedge doesn't slip. Johnny was on the other side with wedged between the log and backstops. Leveling the pith on these cuts too.
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Now she's gun barreled. Ran out of time today. I had to build a frame for an ammonia fuming tent and do some cleanup and get the burn barrel going.
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Thanks Brad, nice clean clear photos. I think I am beginning to get a grip on this process. I hope you have more coming I want to see how this goes.
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I sawed up a new porch for my screen room at camp. White pine. Hemlock legs. A 3x6x8 to attach it to the building. The step is temporary and now I have to saw up some 4x4's to put a roof over it,net year.
Quote from: richhiway on October 23, 2019, 10:14:27 PM
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I sawed up a new porch for my screen room at camp. White pine. Hemlock legs. A 3x6x8 to attach it to the building. The step is temporary and now I have to saw up some 4x4's to put a roof over it,net year.
That looks like a nice place to be. But if your temporary is anything like my temporary than you might be using that step for a while. :)
Alan
Cut some more pine 2x4's this week.
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They will be used for building work benches and lumber racks for the garage so i can have access to dry lumber for my projects this winter.
Also cut some small ERC logs, sapwood was mostly gone but the heartwood was solid for the most part, except for a few ant farms.
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I cut these 1/2" thick and use them to build cedar crates that i have sold to a couple local businesses for displays and resale. I make 3 different sizes.
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I love to mill cedar!
mtoo Nice apple boxes !!
Quote from: Oliver05262 on October 24, 2019, 10:53:28 PM
mtoo Nice apple boxes !!
Thanks...people are liking them...i don't care whether they put apples in them or fill them with...??? as long as they buy them!
If you put apples in them will you still get Cedar Apple Rust as a result? Sorry, could not help myself. ;D
Cut up some pine siding to finish the gable walls on this 12x18 shed kit I`m building, should be dropping it in place and standing things up next week....as long as the over width cops dont spot me.
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Yesterday's challenge was to cut a 6x9x18' pine timber, with a bevel.
the timber is a purlin for a car port that will have solar panels on the roof to make electricity for the owners electric car.
here is the profile:
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here is one of the three I have to do, the second one didn't come out as good as this one.
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Jim Rogers
I've been milling blue pine slabs, beams and posts the last few days. I am building a large lean to and finishing the slabs to sell for bar tops etc. I've had my EZ JR for 9 months now and am quickly outgrowing it as I routinely have logs over 30" and currently have a black walnut trunk that is 48" x 12ft which I will probably have to take to someone with a chainsaw setup. I've been contemplating selling my JR and getting the full size model or an LX150 as I am growing tired of trimming down every tree with a chainsaw.
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If you believe that sawing is something you will continue to do a lot of in the future, a hydraulic mill will be a game changer for you.
Quote from: WDH on October 26, 2019, 08:05:32 AM
If you believe that sawing is something you will continue to do a lot of in the future, a hydraulic mill will be a game changer for you.
I know the problem is most hydraulic mills don't cut wide enough and the ones that do are $$$$. I need a minimum 35" cut width between guides as my pile of 36-42" logs continues to grow.
Cut some tap hole,spalted and ambrosire maple today.
Used a 747 turbo in .055 Cut fast and flat.
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Looking good. I am glad to see the 747's working for you Jim. 8)
Sawed a couple of 8/4 slabs before the rain came
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Cj, is that red oak, or a fruit tree or? thumbs-up
It's red oak, it was headed to the neighbors burn pile
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Cut a order of various thickness and width pine boards today. It was a beautiful warm day here in Upstate NY.
I quartersawed some real nice 40" or so red oak logs today. It made some wide boards, so I could only fit three per layer on the pallet.
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YH..... Super nice!!!
Oh yeah........
smiley_clappingvery nice. Mic drop quality there I'd say.
I am making cookies and charcuterie boards out of Elm . I really like the double pith in some
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The ole' "Double-Pith Cookie"
those are nice!
almost as good as the double stuffed Fudgeo!
Are those going in the vacuum kiln?
YH
That's some up town oak smiley_thumbsup
After 2 years at a friends farm, I finally got my mill home. First project for myself was some 8/4 walnut slabs. I cut them with Kasco 7/8" 4°. Bands cut fine till I backed the band into the cant and popped it off >:(. I hope I learnt that lesson! (Probably not) I want to say thanks to all of you for your collective participation on this forum. I have learned a lot in the last two years from all the members and their combined knowledge. But obviously I still have a lot of learning to do! It is time I stop lurking and start participating.
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The project for this weekend will be some Pignut Hickory. I will be trying the WM .045 Turbo 747's bands for the first time. Should be a good challenge for me and the bands.
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Nice looking walnut! Congrats on the mill.
You're jumping right into the deep end of the pool with that hickory smiley_devil. I'll be curious to see how the 747's work on that. The kasko 4 degree work pretty well on hickory smiley_devil If you don't like the way the 747,s work.
Welcome to the forum!
Quote from: Grass Farmer on October 30, 2019, 05:23:27 PM
After 2 years at a friends farm, I finally got my mill home. First project for myself was some 8/4 walnut slabs. I cut them with Kasco 7/8" 4°. Bands cut fine till I backed the band into the cant and popped it off >:(. I hope I learnt that lesson! (Probably not) I want to say thanks to all of you for your collective participation on this forum.
I would say that was your friends fault. Not having your mill for two years got you outta practice! ;D ;D ;D Personally I think it should be mandatory to knock a band off while returning the saw head every 100 hrs or so, although it's never happened to me ;).
Quote from: WDH on October 30, 2019, 10:17:38 AM
Are those going in the vacuum kiln?
I will be loading them in the Kiln on saturday morning. I have a bunch of logs I have scrounged all summer. I will be staying at home to saw all of November and before I shut down for the winter.
Thanks guys! I'll let you know how the devils sister saws up for me.
Grass Farmer,good to see you posting.
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YH
That's some up town oak smiley_thumbsup
Thanks, I appreciate it.
The odd thing is that I was going to stop quartersawing red oak, I mean who buys that? So I let my stockpile go to nothing because I was going to phase it out, concentrate on QSWO, and then people started complaining that I was running out and they wanted it. They couldn't get it anywhere else and if I stopped, they were hung out to dry. So now I'm back to stocking QS red oak.
So....does anybody else sell QSRO and what do folks use it for?
I get very little call for it.
I've sawn it for flooring and woodworking several dozen times.
The quarter sawn red oak was very popular in the Victorian homes in the area I live in.
I lived in one of them before I built my home.
The developer I worked for owned it.l renovated it for my rent.lt had a library with all qsrdok paneling and cabinets in it.
A 3 story grand staircase all qsrdok .
It all had some hand rubbed oil finish on it.
It was beautiful.
It was a sad day when the house sold.
The carriage house was just as nice as the main house.
It sold for 1 mill.
After a summer of doing other projects I got out there Saturday and fired up the mill for a pair of eastern hemlock logs that have been languishing on my log deck for months. I cut them into 6 x 6 beams to use as cribbing under a truck camper along with some side lumber (mostly 2x6s and 2x4s).
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Nice sunny day in the upper 50s, probably the last one for the year.
Pine flooring blanks - these will go through the kiln and then the moulder to become actual flooring. One of my best selling products.
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great looking flooring boards!
On Wednesday, I finished sawing that gun barreled Ash in my previous post. All the wood is totally clear except the two pith 2x4's. I got 15 2x8.5 boards, of which 11 were true quarter sawn, 4 were rift sawn, and one was flat sawn. I also got 5 2x4's, 2 2x6's, and 4 5/4 boards you see on top. 2 of the 2x4's contain the pith- they'll likely be ok for lumber pallet stringers. I am going to have additional T&G made from the 2x8.5's. I need more than this though. Later in the winter I'll be at the site I was organizing Ash logs on, and will have plenty to cut. I just had one last Ash log here at home, and decided is was nice enough to quarter saw.
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Today I planed a number beams while Johnny K sanded the live edge on ones like these, then I planed them flat.
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Milled my first butternut today on shares for FF member Mike Dillon
I really like the WM 747 airliners they cut great on my mill. All 2" stock
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Not sawing but I did cut an ash tree down today. The top has been falling out and I cut it for firewood then cut the tree which was wedged between a beech and a poplar. It was growing in the run off from the big holler above. The tree fell and I cut the top for firewood till I I was afraid the 20' sawlog (12"+ SED) would fall back in the creek. I went and got the tractor and barely made it up the steep slope after our recent rainy weather, hooked to the log and still managed to bump it back in the creek and could not pull it up the 6' cut. arg-smiley(I am sure the rest of you never have days like that!) I'll come back later with a cable and snatch block and drag it down the runoff. I was going to do that later this afternoon but was moving dirt I got from the road department the last time they cleaned our ditches and wore a hole in a hydraulic hose on the FEL so will hold fire till I replace that. I have several more a mile up the road a neighbor offered me and I will likely go get them later this week. The tree trimmers cut them last summer but they look good with reasonable access. I might even just take the mill up and saw them there if I decide to keep them longer than I can load with my undersized tractor and FEL on my 5X8 trailer. I'll cut the tops up for firewood for the lady so they will still make out well.
I had boys around we didn't cut much we got some other good projects done. We did cut a hollow Mulberry trunk ive had waiting years to be done. It was all gnarly and bug eaten but I plan on using it as in indoor decoration after a little solubor and dry time(it will be years yet, but its under a roof now). We got it leveled and split pretty close to center, then I had the boys pick a log off of the pile some green ash it was, got it squared up before light ran out. It was more about them running the tractors, setting the log, helping level, clamp and turn. I got to have boys help with out asking it was a good afternoon. These days are hard to come by. :)
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Had a crazy busy weekend with all day Saturday running the mill with Dad! Cut up this pile of logs, it was cottonwood, Red Oak, and Red Elm. All of which came from the woods around my house.
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I didn't take any pictures until I was cutting the Elm which I did last. That Elm was standing dead and gave some absolutely beautiful lumber and some even nicer slabs. Thought of @WV Sawmiller (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=28064) and the benches he makes while I was slabbing this Elm to 6/4.
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Here's the final stacks of lumber and the sheet where I figured everything up. 1024 bf total. About an average of 150 bf/hr including set up and tear down of the mill. It was a great day spent with Dad. Now just to get all this lumber sticked ::)
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Dwatt,
That curvy elm looks more like Brad's timber framing than my benches. BTW - I find 6/4 a little to thin to hold the tenons on the legs tight enough. If I were using them I'd shim up about half inch or so. Pretty wood. I am sure it will be put to good use.
I really like Elm, I use them as cutting boards and they look beautiful and hold up well to the knife
Milled some Norwegian maple and white oak crotch today.The first time with both woods. 747 band
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Saved this from the firewood plie I think it's red maple but I have never seen one this big.
The butt is 5' this is the 2nd cut log.
It has nice color and figure
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Man, I can't believe nobody added to this thread for nearly a week. I've got several customers on a short lead as soon as they and I can coordinate our schedules or they get their logs ready. One guy says he has a bunch of assorted logs and a skid steer with a nice grapple. I told him take that nice grapple and make one nice single stack and tell me when it is ready to come saw. Another has a bunch of logs from an old dismantled barn and he confirmed most have no nails and you can see most of the rest. I told him when he gets those pulled call me back and it will be $25/band for every nail he missed. Another was ready but had to go help one of his kids move (Been there, done that so I know how that happens). I decided I better fire up the mill just to make sure everything was working fine. It wasn't. I could not get the side supports down below about 3" till finally found a 3"X3"X5" piece of the last bench leg I cut off stuck in the claw spring. All worked fine after that.
I got 3 "free" ash logs from a neighbor a mile away. I hauled several of the tops up and sawed them up for her for firewood till one log hung and I broke my tractor (Not sure if it is a drive shaft or a linkage of some kind in the transmission - there was a snap and now it won't engage and move forward or backwards). I do know pick up and return will cost me $150 plus the repairs. You got to love those free logs! Actually the ash tops were laying on a nice 16' walnut I wanted. Been down long enough the sapwood is gone but heart looks good. I will go back for it when John is fixed and time and weather permit.
10' ash logs make nice 5' tomato stakes when cut in half at an angle. They will sit a while but periodically someone will call and want 15-20 dozen at a time. A little time consuming as I have not taken the time to set up and make and process them very efficiently but still yields about $2/bf for poor grade logs.
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2 piddling ash logs. One with a lot of sweep
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Cut into 1" square stickers, put about 45 at a time on sawhorses.
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Saw in half at an angle to put a point on each side
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Bundle 12 to a pack, tie with a salvaged hay string and sell for $10/dz. 22 dozen from the 2 logs with a few 2' and 3' stickers. One bundle of 4' stakes which will also sell. This is not the most efficient way to make them but low tech and no extra equipment required.
Not so much "what" but "where"....
It did turn out to be some very nice maple.
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"Man, I can't believe nobody added to this thread for nearly a week" probably chasing deer! the Rut is on! fudd-smiley
Yes, I have seen several scrapes on our place and watched a nice young buck yesterday as he apparently was checking his scrapes instead of coming over to my blind and feeder for our archery appointment. The good thing is he was in easy rifle shot if he keeps that up 2 weeks from now. I delayed my bow hunting and missed the first 6 weeks of bow season here because of hot weather and Epizootic Hemorrhagic Disease here which killed a lot of deer last summer. the good thing is that the cold weather killed the bugs carrying it and the survivors look to be in real good shape.
N.A.D.A. its 15 below wind chill :snowball:
2 weeks ago I got around to milling some pignut hickory for a friend. In total we got about 500bf in about 4 hours. Used the WM Turbo 747 045 for the first time. I was able to cut faster than with the Kasco 4° I used for the first two logs.
They also seemed to stay sharper longer on my mill....until I raised the backstops up into the blade after the last cut :'(. My mill has the handle for the travel next to the handle to raise and backstops. I wasn't thinking and went to pull the head back and raised the backstops up instead. Before that I was honestly impressed with how fast I could cut that hickory. I don't know if it will dry flat, but it came off the mill pretty flat.
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Hope that tractor is something easy. Maybe it was an axle?
Quote from: jb616 on November 12, 2019, 11:24:01 AM
"Man, I can't believe nobody added to this thread for nearly a week" probably chasing deer! the Rut is on! fudd-smiley
We have been sawing and selling here at Hobby Hardwood. I milled about 4 thousand bdft of 4/4 walnut this week, among other stuff, trying to beat the cold that showed up today.
It was some pretty nice walnut, most was from veneer grade logs, with some decent boards.
Here's the results of a few hours of sawing, a couple stacks of boards.
On Saturday, we had a pretty busy day, lots of customers on every rack.
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Quote from: YellowHammer on November 12, 2019, 05:52:17 PM
On Saturday, we had a pretty busy day, lots of customers on every rack.
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Now that looks like a destination if I'm in your neck of the woods on a Saturday.
Quote from: Grass Farmer on November 12, 2019, 12:52:55 PM
I don't know if it will dry flat
:D :D :D
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Didn't saw today....with the rain and cold that we had, but i sawed a nice cherry log yesterday. Had to trim the crotch a little to fit my mill. Ended up 19" wide 7' long.
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Had some very nice figure!
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Got five 2 1/2" slabs and a couple lesser ones.
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I plan to make some coffee tables in the future.
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I pictured this Walnut "Log" back in September. Whatcha Sawin' 2019 ??? in Sawmills and Milling (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=105481.msg1678941#msg1678941)
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Well, it got delivered today. Not enough to travel for but it still needed sawing.
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Some short blocks.....
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And some really short blocks. Here I used my trailer and log loading ramps to keep it from falling through the sawmill bed and to stretch across the side supports.
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The customer got a nice load of mostly 9/4 slabs.
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One stick looked like this and this is not a crotch. It was midway between limbs. Crazy stuff looked like marble.
Anyway, I buttoned the sawmill up when I finished sawing until after my knee surgery recovery.
MM, yup, you never give up on Walnut. Even if it looks rotten, there's still some good wood there. You shouldn't necessarily throw away hollow logs either. They make great table bases for glass top tables. Google "hollow log table base" and click images. Lots of ideas there like this one:
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I have a cherry log that is similar only wider and more spectacular. I even like the epoxy pours in a hollow log and then back lit by led's. Wishing you a speedy recovery. I'm sure I'll have to get mine done in a couple years.
That's some beautiful stuff :)
Ditto on BOTH above posts !
Thought about posting in the cold weather thread but actually it warmed up a little above freezing this afternoon so I decided to go saw a log to get out a customer order for 4-8' long 4X4 posts. We discussed cutting them a little oversized since they are green so agreed on 4.5X4.5. We will see how much they actually shrink but they turned out well. Was the butt log. I sawed the side lumber up into 2X4, 4/4 and even trimmed out about a dozen 3/8" Lathe/project strips for making crates and such. It really sawed real nice which is the norm with tulip poplar.
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Decent log, typical flare for butt log
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4 nice posts and about 33 bf of side lumber including the 3/8"X 2" strips on the side. Not a lot of waste that way. A couple of trim pieces about 1/2" thick which are always handy for various projects around the place.
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on November 15, 2019, 03:37:16 PM4 nice posts and about 33 bf of side lumber including the 3/8"X 2" strips on the side.
Just curious, what did you do with the pith? Was it split between the 4x4s? Wondering how the tulip poplar behaves.
In this case I sawed my posts FOH and sawed the pith into 4/4 boards and a couple of 2X4s. I could probably have sawed a 4.5" cant out of the middle and centered the pith in one and got one on each side FOH but I'd still have had to gotten my 4th post out of the side so in this case I took off a board or two on each side till I got about a 10" face then set my Simple set to drop 4-5/8" and got my posts that way avoiding the pith. I left about a 4" pith that way and just sawed into stock - 2x4s and 4/4 boards.
If they didn't turn into a banana coming off the mill they should be fine is my experience with Tulip.
I've had a couple of good days sawing. Yesterday was 2x6 and 2x8 white oak for dump truck sideboards. Today was Walnut and cherry. Nothing special except three beautiful cherry logs. Some of the cherry was 10" wide 12' long with very little sapwood.
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Cut some nice wide pine slabs. One of them will be for my wife. She needs a table for her Nascar autographed cars.
Sawed a buggy blue pine log for a neighbor on Friday. And a hairy woodpecker came down to help. Wouldn't even get off the log when I rolled it. When the saw head got too close, he flew up and over the saw as it went by and landed on the back side.
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And as you can see, the blade took a dive because I hit a rock in spite of the fact that the bark was loose and just fell off the log.
Woodpeckers have to make a living too.
Thanks for the woodpecker post. I'd love to have seen him hopping over the blade as it was sawing. I guess he wanted to be a mill mascot or something. i was grinding deer on the front porch and a redbellied woodpecker lit 2 posts away from me and started singing. We have been having big piliated woodpeckers in the yard and on my logs and slab pile lately.
Make sure you give him the slabs for free.
I have a couple of woodpeckers at my yard also, they really like the pine with the grubs
Sorry, nothing to share off the sawmill. Still been working a lot of hours and getting work done on the apartment. The good news is that I have the apartment done enough to move in. The 5th wheel froze solid a couple weeks ago, so I had to push the issue and get moved in. I still have some sheet rock to hang, but we're insulated and warm 😁
Here's the latest progress video
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White oak beams. Lots of white oak beams. The customer rides his tractor and there's only one helper. But I quoted the job at an hourly rate. It's his nickel....
This is part of the first whack. We had already cut 5 logs. There are three more whacks. I'll be back for a couple more days.
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Very nice logs!
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Milled up some cedar siding for my sawmill shed
I like the green.
I like the yellow.
I like the pink.
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Been sawing slabs and lumber from one of our walnut trees felled last week. We got six 2" x 26" x 6' slabs. Plus over 600 board feet of 5/4 lumber. All the lumber is clear, no sapwood and 8 to 13" wide!
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@Kwill (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=32883) how big is your winch on the arch? And does it suit you? Banjo
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Quote from: Banjo picker on November 22, 2019, 09:51:08 AM
@Kwill (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=32883) how big is your winch on the arch? And does it suit you? Banjo
2500 lb works good
Quote from: Kwill on November 20, 2019, 09:56:09 PM
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I hope those C clamps are just temporary.
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Cut some nice spalted Maple today. The weather was beautiful in upsate NY today. Rain and snow tonight.
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It was a big old Maple. Made some nice slabs.
Nice walnut slabs!
I got out of the woods after letting one nice doe go and had a call from a guy who found me through my website. He is from Texas and visiting relatives about 45 miles from here and said he had a 16' black walnut log about 28-30 inches in diameter. He confirmed I had a chainsaw big enough to cut it and I said I did. Said he'd bring it right down so I moved the mill from the pasture to the lot in front of my house for easier access. When he got here he had 3 logs. The 16' log was over 30" SED and had a nasty 3 way crotch on top. I had told him my tractor was in the shop (So is my 4 wheeler - seems like every I touch lately breaks. I am getting scared to go pee.) When he and his BIL got here turned out I had to use a snatch block and long cable and pull the logs off with my truck. Had to saw through about a 30-32 crotch to cut 4' off the log to get the others off. Finally got to the big one and he ripped his rail on his trailer off driving out from under it. We had an 11'8" log so he decided not to buck it shorter. I moved the mill again to where the log was then bibbyed some off it (but not enough) and we used my Magic Hook to load it on the arms which impressed the heck out of my customers. The loading arms and claw and clamp all worked fine to lift and turn it.The customer said the log weighed 4500 lbs on the scale on their boom truck before I cut the crotch off. I had to gunbarrel it down to get to about 22" and sawed it into 6/4 boards.(Note to self self - 6/4 X 12' X 22" green boards are heavy.) I got 1- trim cut about 1/2" thick and he already had plans for that as soon as he saw it. He makes little wooden crosses about 4" long and 2" wide and showed me one he made of cedar. He figured he'd get a bunch out an 11'8" X 22" board. When I got done we had 453 bf and had run out of daylight. He left the other logs with me with cutting instructions and will plan on picking the up in 2 days. I doubt the rest combined will be as big as this one log. His BIL wife (His wife's sister) was coming home from WVU Hospital after getting a knee replacement tomorrow (Seems to be a lot of that going around doesn't it ;)) so he could not get back then. No pictures but I will get some tomorrow or Thursday when I finish the rest. We had a good time and hopefully the weather holds out for sawing tomorrow. Then I will have to figure out charges for my chainsaw work and such. It will be fair to all concerned and so far they seem very happy with their wood.
Cut a nice cherry log today for a friend of mine. 22" x 10'. Heaviest log to date that i've had on the mill! A bit of a challenge to get up there but we got it...first time i've used my ramps. Yielded ~240 bd ft of random width and thickness of lumber. He will stack and sticker it at his house and use it for furniture making. It was a good day!
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John and I cleaned up the yard a little yesterday. About two years ago, after Hurricane Irma, I popped a bunch of dead and partially blown over cedar trees up. They were piled to deal with later. Later came yesterday. We cut them into small logs to saw into 4" and 6" boards, a few were set aside for small live edged slabs and the really small stuff with good heartwood was put on an old trailer to use for bench legs, bed posts and the like.
Anyway, we decided to go ahead an slab all of the cedar that was big enough. We were surprised to get as much clear wood as we did. Some was punky (pecky), but all in all, a pretty fair amount of good quality slabs was the result. They were sorted and stacked by size and quality.
John and his family are heading to his wife's family's farm in Alabama for the rest of the week. He will hopefully find us some good, big cedar trees to cut after hunting season while there. Cedar slabs have treated us well and if they are big and of good quality they sell quickly.
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The near slabs are 12' and the ones stacked are 8-10'.
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White pine for shed siding and a little log for stickers.
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I've been buying logs, sawing and selling lots of decent syp and cypress lately.
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Drizzly start to the day. I trimmed limbs and this big crotch which was SED of yesterdays big walnut butt log. That is a 24" bar on the saw.
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About 4 limbs/tops coming out here. A bear to trim and work with. Sampson checking it out.
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I cut the short limb off and made cookies. Cut at the crotch with about 5' left over.
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Pulled this cooked top with my truck as too heavy for my wife's ATV (back up to mine which, along with my tractor is/was in the hospital when this was loaded)
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I trimmed crotch to fit between my blade guide. There is a big crack in the other end preventing me from laying the "leg" perfectly flat which is my preferred technique. I trimmed about 6" off one limb then laid this over about 75-80 degrees to saw parallel to the crack.
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My tractor guru called while I was sawing and brought me my tractor. I could have kissed him. I used it to load the last log and this nasty crotch which still took some work to get placed. I had trimmed it to about 18" narrow way and was still 34-36 inched tall but easy to trim. I finished sawing in the dark so I really can't say how this wood looks yet. I did not get to tally the total as so late but looks like 300-400 bf on my trailer. I'll check tomorrow before customer comes to get it in the early afternoon so good time to chase a wily whitetail in the morning.
Nice job. What ended up being wrong with the tractor?
The invoice says "Rear Differential Ring Gear Bolts Sheared". Was $12 worth of bolts (He described them as about a grade 10 bolt), $62.70 worth of other assorted parts ($42 of which was 5 gallons of hydraulic fluid they changed) and $720 worth of labor ($150 of this was pick up and return on their rollback).
I thought it would be a lot longer repair and a lot more expensive. I am very satisfied with the response and cost under the circumstances. He picked it up about 2 weeks ago.
Here is a picture of yesterday's wood. The board on top on the left was from a big split in the wood. I was able to pretty much contain it in 2 boards.
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The customer wanted a couple of 4X4s for table legs (I'd have gone for 3X3's but his wood and his choice). At the front in the middle is about 10-11 cookies about 10-11 inches in diameter and 6/4 thick. Lots of sap wood and lots of the typical walnut green tint showing up.
Tomorrow morning's project.
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"Little" headlog... About 2200 BF. There's about another 7000BF in two billets from this tree. Poor little guy had to go to make room to fall his grandfather. (I'm guessing not less than 12000 BF in the bigger one).
Its serious hardwood, dense and hard... I went over the weighbridge and that piece is 6¼ ton...
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on November 27, 2019, 10:00:41 PM
The invoice says "Rear Differential Ring Gear Bolts Sheared". Was $12 worth of bolts (He described them as about a grade 10 bolt), $62.70 worth of other assorted parts ($42 of which was 5 gallons of hydraulic fluid they changed) and $720 worth of labor ($150 of this was pick up and return on their rollback).
I thought it would be a lot longer repair and a lot more expensive. I am very satisfied with the response and cost under the circumstances. He picked it up about 2 weeks ago.
That does seem fair. Luckily you broke the bolts and not the very expensive gears.
As I said I was well pleased. Everything seems to have been well greased and aligned and he even centered and spot welded the blade I had on it as we had discussed and I requested. There is never a good time to have a piece of equipment down but having a good repair guy you trust is like money in the bank IMHO.
Once when I was in the USMC and just returned from a deployment and money was real tight in a new duty station (Beaufort SC) my old truck was barely running and I took it to a local General Tire dealer with a mechanic just knowing, since I am no mechanic, I needed a new carb, fuel pump, injectors, etc. I left it with him with strict instructions not to repair till he called with an estimate. That afternoon he called and said my truck was ready and I got excited and reminded him nobody called for approval to make any repairs. He told me it was only $3 as it was only a loose carb and they tightened it. They checked other things but that was it. From then on they did all my mechanic work, I got tires and referred others to him. He could have taken advantage of me but he did not.
Here is the Custom Walnut log I sawed for a customer on Friday.
In 8 years of custom sawing buisness it is only the first high value log being sawn into lumber, no Live edge. I did lots of reading and studying on the FF before I put it on the mill
I missed the pictures of the actuall 10/4 lumber I pulled off. 18" wide. I also pulled a whack 6/4 lumber/. It was interesting sawing all the sapwood off. Even as people dropped in to buy some wood, they were all amazed at no "live Edge"
I replied that the craze is dying and people are coming to thier senses, the straight edge 10/4 tables he will make will be in style for ever.
he did want to dry it yet, not in his budget this year. He is going to air dry it in his garage and bring it back next fall for me to dry.
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Well done. In all honesty I would rather not saw somebody else's high value log like that. The one I sawed Tuesday was as big or bigger than that with most of the lumber 22-23 inches wide. I find it very nerve wracking thinking I could screw up a piece of wood like that that I know I could never replace. I don't mind sawing my own as then it is on me but somebody else's ...
I agree with you Howard
That's one of the reason I saw my own logs mostly.
If someone doesn't like it they don't have to buy it.
If I own the logs
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Well done. In all honesty I would rather not saw somebody else's high value log like that. The one I sawed Tuesday was as big or bigger than that with most of the lumber 22-23 inches wide. I find it very nerve wracking thinking I could screw up a piece of wood like that that I know I could never replace. I don't mind sawing my own as then it is on me but somebody else's ...
He liked my sawing so much he brought me a big bottle of 12 year old Glen Fiddich!
Mine left me a $70 tip on a $290 order. :D I was happy and obviously he was too.
Song title, - Ponderosa by the headlamp light.
Artist ....almost late for meatloaf.
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Ok I know, bad, but the song just popped into my head as I quit this evening. :D
Sawed cypress beams till midnight last night. This morning I grabbed a few chainsaws and took a little trip to cut some ERC trees down. Got'em home late this afternoon and decided to fight with the biggest, ugliest one. Needed to get short 1x's from side lumber and squeeze out a few 2x6x14's from the center. The log won today's fight. Took me 10 forevers to get it positioned for the 1st face opening, then I noticed barbed wire perfectly in the way. Went home without cutting a single board today. Got a frozen steak strapped over my black eye. Chainsawing it down into 6' & 8' sections in about 6 hours.
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Well I had a multi-stem crotch with about 5 stems coming out of it from a big Ash tree we took down last spring. The butt log was 48"DBH. This crotch from above the butt log was pretty heavy and no one wanted to take it when I was giving away Ash firewood logs a couple months ago. I was intending to cut it up into firewood chunks, but then I started cutting 2.5" cookies. The heartwood color was beautiful contrasted with the white wood. So I just kept cutting cookies til there was nothing left. I'm thinking a table top like Tule Timber Peak's Walnut cookie table. That Style, but these cookies are a lot bigger. A bunch of them are oval and 3-3.5 feet across the long side. I got 15 cookies I think. I guess I'm going to have to get busy building my slab flattening helical planer mill.
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worked on a few cookies for a wedding for and eagle scout in our troop from a few years ago. near dusk so added the laser and tried to get a few pics to show its utility. mine points down just in front of the blade. I know as I approach the log, I get a warning within 1/2 inch of blade contact. as I pull back to drop down for the next cut, I can see the line drop down off the top of the log. I can tell when the blade is about to exit the log on the far side so I know when I can push the auto up button to then pull back for the next cut. this really helps on long logs, and when light is getting thin. in fact when it gets dark, the laser really pops.
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this is what I see as I approach the log. this one is upright for cutting cookies and tipped away at a 45° angle so the cookies are oval and more interesting with a beveled edge. (open to interpretation).
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the laser shoots down in front of the blade. you can see it on the frame and ground. as well on the bolts in front of the roller guides.
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not a great shot and not what I see. just a single line that indicates the location of the blade in the cut, so if the blade is flipping the cookies as I exit the cut, I can speed up a bit to keep them stacked and cut several at a time and not have to pick them up off the ground or mill frame. fun. got 54 done this eve.
Quote from: doc henderson on December 04, 2019, 09:41:39 PM
this is what I see as I approach the log. this one is upright for cutting cookies and tipped away at a 45° angle so the cookies are oval and more interesting with a beveled edge. (open to interpretation).
A laser on a manual mill would greatly help in centering the pith.
This is what I'm milling; tamarack 2x6s:
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Looks like some real nice lumber, SPDM. How do the knots on tamarack treat you when sawing? Hard like spruce?
This is the last load of framing and 1x6 floor sheathing, yellow poplar and red oak, for a small house. The engineer should be by Wed to grade and we can start framing 8).
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Quote from: wisconsitom on December 07, 2019, 01:17:59 PM
Looks like some real nice lumber, SPDM. How do the knots on tamarack treat you when sawing? Hard like spruce?
Very wavy if I don't slow down pushing through the cut. Still like cutting it as it has a distinctive colour and smell to it.
Hi guys, good to see you...still sawing
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Even got another nice little article wrote about me and my sawmill endeavors since last time I was here.
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That's pretty cool lawg dawg, a little recognition makes a guy feel good about his efforts.....
Congrats on the publication. It has happened to me twice, and the (free) public exposure is always welcomed:
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We had a article done on The C Farm. The way she wrote it made us sound like very important people and we loved what we was doing. ;D
What do you folks make of the green coloring in this maple? Will it stay or fade away?
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does it feel wet in those area. time will tell, but I bet it will lighten some as it dries. Walnut looks almost ugly sometimes when it is right off the mill, green brown black ect. dries beautiful
It is an enzymatic oxidation stain and is permanent. Happens as the log naturally ages. Fresh maple logs will not have the time and conditions (higher temp, high humidity, and no/low air flow) for the reaction to occur. I get maple like that all the time and the stain adds a lot of nice contrast and color. Many of my customers like it.
I have had this piece of maple for a year and half.
Put it up on the mill this afternoon it's spalted and curly.
Made 3 cuts before the tree company stoped with a load.
I had to stop
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Bruno,
That is one ugly mama! I can't wait to see what the wood looks like.
WV
It's nice
I will have pictures tomorrow
I'll be back to see the pictures.
Beauty and the beast. Not saying which is which.
The ugly maple log after we cut some slabs off the top
I like my Woodmizer
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Pictures of the ugly maple log
I got (23) 2"thick x 4'long slabs
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I hauled in a few loads of white pine. The LT40 is going to be busy.
Customer dropped off this spalted maple log while I was away.
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I called him back and advised him it was too far gone and would not make usable slabs.
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So I sliced it up and it was as I knew it would be ( big ole mess of rot n Bugs)
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What a mess!! :-X
:D :D :D
Saw that picture and the caption and my reaction was "How long did you leave for?" :D
A bit of Gorilla glue and it'll be just like new.
Come on guys - it's art!
Epoxy fixes every thing :D
I don't get to saw as much as I would like but when I do, I like to saw really heavy stuff!!
8x8x10'
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I believe that one of the causes of sawdust being left on the cant is not sawing fast enough. For whatever reason, I couldn't run the saw head fast enough on these oak logs. Still leaving sawdust behind. Maybe I'm used to only sawing old dry logs
Great saw day today. Great crew.
SYP - full cut 2x
Oaks - 1" barn siding
747, .055 blade
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ETex, Looks like you were busy and productive yesterday. We could have used your wide mill last weekend when we were sawing a live oak log that was an inch or so too wide to easily get two live edges.
A couple of years ago, we sawed several bald cypress logs into boards for a couple to do the inside and porch siding and ceiling in their house. We also sawed a large, live edged cypress mantle for them. They have never mounted the mantle and the boss (wife) did not want live edge for the mantle and preferred to have cedar heartwood. They provided the logs.
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We sawed this 12"x 5.5" x 117" out of the butt log and then used the circular saw to shorten it to 94". We got quite a bit of side lumber and a few slabs off of it while whittling away to the mantle. We were told to keep the other three logs and he gave us back the cypress mantle that we sawed a few years ago. He asked John what he owed us- $0.00. We should come out okay on this one. We do have to pull one 60d spike from one log though.
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I'm still getting orders
I took one Saturday (300) 1x8x8 white pine
Loading and delivering 2 cords of firewood this morning.
Customer stopping at 9:00 for 3 more red maple slabs.
Snow tomorrow and wind chill on Thursday -8° to -15°
No sawing for me that day.
Congrats on the continuing work flow. 8)
I posted this in my build thread, but I'm really proud of my little home-built saw. We cut this 23" cedar yesterday and fought like crazy to make it work since there's 23" between the guides. Fun exercise, but I'll be staying on the smaller side from now on. No need for a bigger mill... yet.
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Hoopty, its easy. Just put an extension on the adjustable side and run the next longer band. Will just need to make whatever your using for your tensioner a little longer.
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Hoopty, its easy. Just put an extension on the adjustable side and run the next longer band. Will just need to make whatever your using for your tensioner a little longer.
Ehhhh, yeah, I'm with you. The question is do I
really wanna be messing with logs that big, with the equipment I have? So far, that answer is no.
And again, yet. haha
I have done plenty of logs my equipment can't handle. makes big lumber :)
The answer is yes, why not :)
Every porch should have a sawmill.
And every sawmill should have a porch
Had a woodworker bring me a huge "Sinker" Walnut Stump / Root-ball. It was about 6ft long and 4ft wide. Had to whittle it down with a chainsaw to fit within my 34" wide cut. Then slabbed it......mostly 3.5"
The pics don't do it much justice, but the slabs were beautiful. WEEEEETTTTTTTT too!
A lot of it was too wet and rotted but once we got into the center, it was nice stuff.
It was a challenge clamping.
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Yahoo... nice walnut, one of a kind... 8)
Ya know, if sawing were like hunting then after 90 days drying that would be a "Non typical walnut" which scored 287 on the "Yellowhammer and WDH" club scale. :D
I'm back sawing the yellow/orange stuff. I'm sawing and Johnny is draw knifing the bark off. It's very green so not bad, unlike the last batch that had dried in the sun for a year. Just started in on the new batch of logs we cut in late October. I need to cut 20 braces by New Years.
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That Walnut stump was a rare sawing opportunity Lance. I've been there and there is no way to describe the feeling you get when you get that peek inside of something like that. smiley_curtain_peek
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Your customer should be very happy! 8)
Headed my way after the first of the year, 37000 lbs net. Merry Christmas !
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Wow :o
What are your plans for it? what kind of wood? how will you move it? uuuuuuuuge.
That is a monster Tule, but I'm sure not your first. What about the black marks showing on the end? Just go for it and sacrifice some bands?
This is a black oak that will be delivered in three truck loads from N. California.Not sure , or worried about the black stains at this point. I bought back my slabbing mill from the same gent that also bought my LT-70 wide to cut this stick but I don't think it will fit ??
Got out of the slab business a year ago when I saw too many folks getting in and destroying the market. I have a use for the slabbing mill later in 2020 so I might as well start bringing logs in again.
When it gets here we will par-buckle off the trailer and slice into table tops .This requires bunking under the trailer frame and a bit of thought as to where the log lands for milling. It took two 900 series cats to load at the other end and I'm one cat short at this end :D
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Wow. That's a big stick. Looking forward to seeing it opened up.
Holy cow! In a regular sized tree those iron stains would be from nails. These are probably railroad spikes.
Alan
May hafta dig a hole, back the trailer into it, and roll the log off on level ground. ;D
The blue could be from the bar/chain while falling/bucking which would be easy to determine.
You are crazy!
So I sawed yesterday and today cutting cherry, ashe and cedar.
The photo below is a load of Cherry.
After the previous posts, I feel like the old men on the bench in front of the courthouse in Andy Griffith - just whittling sticks.
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It's been said go big or go home.
Apparantly he doesn't want to go home.
I'll be watching for pictures as I'm curious.
A 4" thick slab in the center may require his cat.
GAB
Who are you making tables for? Shrek? :D
I'm still getting calls for "stupid' big tables and doors that I'm making out of a dwindling stock pile. Walnut sells the best but anything huge has a market, at least for now.Don't know how much longer the slab market will last--my best guess was wrong last year. Time to shine my crystal ball.....
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I'm still getting calls for "stupid' big tables and doors that I'm making out of a dwindling stock pile. Walnut sells the best but anything huge has a market, at least for now.Don't know how much longer the slab market will last--my best guess was wrong last year. Time to shine my crystal ball.....
And I always thought that crystall balls had to be calibrated.
GAB
Well,,,sign me up. I've been wrong before ! :D :D :D
Amazing log! This is my first post. Just purchased an hm126, hoping to play with it in retirement.
Welcome to the site . Lots of logs ,,dogs ,, and knowledge here.
WOW and another WOW!!!! How many feet across is that? I cut some big pine on my land,4 feet across,and those made the ground shook when they would hit the ground. That really must of did some shaking!!!
Welcome Herc102. Finish filling your Profile with your location, etc. so that we will know/remember. :)
Quote from: thecfarm on December 21, 2019, 09:29:16 PM
WOW and another WOW!!!! How many feet across is that? I cut some big pine on my land,4 feet across,and those made the ground shook when they would hit the ground. That really must of did some shaking!!!
Bought it ---haven't seen it . My wife tells me I'm writing checks my body can't cash......
Wow!
Monster and Heavy too boot!
I thought the slab craze fell out this summer.
I was wrong once September hit sales picked up.
3 to 5 a week .
Some weeks 10 + mostly hardwood.
I still plan for a slow down.
Quote from: tule peak timber on December 21, 2019, 09:35:18 PM
Bought it ---haven't seen it . My wife tells me I'm writing checks my body can't cash......
A man has to be adventurous.
whiteflag_smiley whiteflag_smiley whiteflag_smileyWow, incredible
I feel like I'm cutting toothpicks after seeing that log !
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can you pull up "danger zone" music on your phone, maybe get a laugh out of her!
She is not in a good mood this morning....
Got a call yesterday from a log supplier with some giant redwoods looking to make some Christmas $$. Can't say no to him as "they aren't making anymore" of the big logs in my lifetime.
As I said she is not in a good mood right now :oSome pics of the last sticks I bought from him.....
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How did you get everything to grow sideways like that? :D
Asking POQUO here.
How does redwood saw?
Is the dust a problem?
I built 2 homes with redwood lap siding was very nice stuff.
Looked great.
On the computer they are right side up when I post them to the forum they rotate , I don't know how to rotate them back . I'm not very good with electronics .
Quote from: Bruno of NH on December 22, 2019, 11:05:35 AM
How does redwood saw?
Is the dust a problem?
I built 2 homes with redwood lap siding was very nice stuff.
Looked great.
We do all sorts of weird projects with redwood and the logs saw and dry easily.The dust is a documented hazard but no way near as bad as say silk oak or paroda or white fir.
Poquo, The easiest way to keep the photos correct is to always hold your phone horizontal and with the 'home' button to the right. You have an option to rotate the pictures on the posting screen just above the:
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Thanks MM
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Worked great !
Muzzleloader season ended yesterday, bow season still open and a few more antlerless days 26-31 December but today we had a pretty nice warm cloudy day so I decided to clean up a little stock and odd pieces in the yard in preparation for my next project - a school bus stop which could easily be modified to become a deer blind or outhouse as needed. More to follow in the new year ahead. Added one hour on the mill, sawed 150 bf of 4X4, 2X4, 4/4, 3/8" X 2" slats for crates/projects/battens as needed, and a couple of walnut limbs and such for big cookies. 5 logs or pieces and 150 bf yield.
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Started with a little 8' poplar top with some sweep
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4X4 posts, a 2X4, 1x4's, 1x6's & a 1X10 and some trim cuts which are always handy and 2" slats made by edging 2X pieces in 1/2" drops (handy little pieces to have around the shop). Not much waste off that log.
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A 4' poplar upper section salvaged. Made 7 2X4's so good return.
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An ugly walnut crotch from my Thanksgiving customer. Mostly designer firewood but you have to cut them to find out. IMHO - the juice wasn't worth the squeeze.
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A big knot cut off the butt log
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Only 2- 5/4 cookies but worth the effort.
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A limb stub I cut off the walnut butt log - No YH, the log would not roll so I told him it wasn't a log when it went on the mill.
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I did get 4-5 of these cookies so it was worth the salvage efforts too. As I said - you have to cut them to find out if worth it or not sometimes.
I looked at my history and see I need 2,042 bf to hit my 100K mark. If we get decent weather this week I may try to do that before years end.
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on December 23, 2019, 06:07:57 PM
- a school bus stop which could easily be modified to become a deer blind or outhouse as needed. .
hopefully not all at the same time! :o :o :o :D :D :D
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on December 23, 2019, 06:07:57 PM
in preparation for my next project - a school bus stop which could easily be modified to become a deer blind or outhouse as needed.
Wow, there is SO much in that little line! I would suggest you put 'shooting holes' on all sides and seats from the get-go and decide later. :D :D :D :D
Since our bus routes are pretty rural I figure the kids can get in a little extra deer hunting while waiting for the bus. :D If they have city kid relatives along and they shoot a big buck and get so excited they have to go, they won't have to go far. We will even stock them with corncobs for hiney wipe and place them in the right order - 3 red ones then a white one. (They have to be used in the right order):D :D
Actually it is the same basic 4'X4' shell and if/where you add windows can turn it into a deer blind and if someone needs an outhouse at a camp or such (I sold an order of lumber a couple years ago for a 1-holer and had to sit down with the guy and pretty much design it to make sure he had the right amount of lumber so there is a market occasionally) I just box in the seat and put in a hole and ring/lid. A door will be an option for the bus stop, I'll have to practice my 1/4 moon cut-outs and install a 4" vent pipe for outhouses. So far it looks like I can buy treated 2X6's cheaper and easier than cutting locust or white oak for the floor framing (About $30) and metal roofing looks to be between $25-$30 depending what they want. Window options and door hardware are TBD.
Board and Batten, lap siding or LE lap siding are all options with B&B the basic model.
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on December 23, 2019, 08:51:44 PM
Since our bus routes are pretty rural I figure the kids can get in a little extra deer hunting while waiting for the bus. :D If they have city kid relatives along and they shoot a big buck and get so excited they have to go, they won't have to go far. We will even stock them with corncobs for hiney wipe and place them in the right order - 3 red ones then a white one. (They have to be used in the right order):D :D
Has anybody ever commented on how thoughtful and considerate your are in your design criteria? Comforting, educational, and sporting all at the same time. Wait until this hits Amazon!
I will be sending in my application to appear on Shark Tank any day now. In the mean time I am also working on a Murphy option where the unsightly toilet can be folded up out of sight against the wall like a Murphy bed. My problem right now is getting the hole in the toilet to line up with the window at the right height so the user can still shoot his (her?) bow out of it. ;D
Leave it low, throne to prone.
We set up a gang rip over the weekend for sheathing boards over at Rick's, had the Lucas and his Belsaw going.
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We got attic floor joists and most of the easy roof framing done today. The framing is tulip poplar and red oak. As we were carrying in some of the red oak 2x12x16's today my partner commented that they outweighed him, I think he's right, glad they're done.
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My old neighbor stopped by about 8:15 this morning to get the rest of my slabwood. He cuts it up to about 8-10 inch lengths so when he gets a truck load, he gets a full truckload. I made a couple more sawhorses and leave them next to the slab pile to help him and his younger brother saw up the slabs. I usually go out and socialize with them a little and laugh at them bickering at each other. I charge him $10/pick up load. Not much but I used to have to move it to a burn pile and burn it. At least now it gets used, I get help getting rid of it and a pittance to boot. He paid for today's load and the next one I get cut. He often does that. Then I cut up a poplar top I had sawed into a 4' and a 7' length, a knotty 10' long poplar top into 4' 2X4's the 7 & 10 into 4/4 boards and a 4' maple into LE slabs for benches.
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4 & 7 ft poplar. Got 3 good 2X4's and 2 with excess wane I tossed then retrieved to make future sawhorses. 1X8 Boards out of the 7' piece then a 10' not shown into 1X8 4/4 board. Just a salvage operation but handy pieces.
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An ugly 4' maple piece due to the big check in the pith but still yielded 3 LE slabs for benches and 8-2.5"X2.5" X 4' leg pieces.
113 bf total for .7 hours on the mill.
Had to quit about 1:00 pm to go shower and change and go to a Christmas Eve get together/meal. Now just waiting for Sandy Claws.
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Yes, only someone with a 2' plastic Christmas tree and a Grinch stocking would get out and saw lumber on Christmas Day but it was a sunny 60 degrees (Feels cooler) and we won't have our Christmas doin's till Saturday when our daughter and family get here from Charlotte NC so I decided to work on getting my stock together for my combo bus stop/deer blind/outhouse project. I wanted to make some live edge siding. I have never made live edge siding but had a 9' ash log blocking traffic so decided to try it.
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Cut by tree trimmers last summer they cut a wide notch.
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I loaded it on the mill and sawed parallel to the bark till I squared up one side opening a face about 8" from the squared side (I did not try to center the pith for this project) and sawed 3/4" thick.
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After half a dozen cuts I was down to my side supports so I lowered them and centered the log on the movable clamp (Hard to see here) as a pivot and spun the cant around to keep the square edge against the side, checked my cheat sheet for my mark then opened another 8-9 inch face and then resumed cutting to the rails. On the last cut I had to lower the clamp all the way and just let the weight of the cant and flitches I had not removed hold it in place. It was pucker time cutting that last cut 3/4" from the deck but the square dog truly is 5/8" high and I just missed it (Whew!).
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Wasn't it CustomSawyer who said never lift both ends of a board? I lifted the end toe roller and pushed the sawed flitches to the end and slid them off on John's forks never lifting them.
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I then edged my first cut into 2- 9' 2X4's. 15 live edge siding boards that will each cover from about 8-10 inches with another 2" of overlap and 2- 2X4's. About 125 bf (If you count every piece under 1" as an inch like I do) and enough to cover my project. This was a real fun way to spend Christmas!
Congrats on a successful saw. I also see that "level" is a very relative term in WV. ;D
@Magicman (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=10011) ,
I had to look that new word up. Level is not a term frequently used around here. :D My property rises over 450' on 40+ acres. I tell folks I have 40 acres but if I could lay it flat I'd have 80. I do stage the logs up hill of the mill then just roll and turn them toward the mill and let gravity take care of the loading.
Man, you guys is slacking. Nobody else posted any sawing here since Christmas Eve. Must be the end of hunting season or something (Ours ends tomorrow for deer).
Anyway I started piddling on my new project and realized I was short on 2X4s so after getting my wife's ATV tire fixed (again) and before I have to run get 2 new hydraulic hoses for my little FEL I ran out and cut a 6 & 7 ft log off a stock poplar log up in the edge of the woods and dragged it down and cut it into 2X4. I think I got one more little 1X4 and a 3/8" X 2" X 6' craft strip so there was not much going in the waste pile. Total yield 125 bf and .9 more hours on the mill.
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Awful muddy around here right now but beautiful weather partly cloudy with scattered sun and about 60-65 degrees. 28 good clear 2X4s, one short one, a 1X4 and a thin strip for crates or battens on my school bus/outhouse/deer blind project..
Had time to play with mill yesterday cut up one nice red oak log and one ugly oak crotch it had been down a couple of years turned out most every slab was split , broke a blade when it tried to crawl off mill stopped in cut next time it moved , took darn near an hour to back out blade , at (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/44421/sunlog_a~0.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1577739042)<b(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/44421/sun_log~0.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1577739073)(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/44421/sun_log_2~2.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1577739125)(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/44421/sunlog_3~1.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1577739158)least it did not break .
I have found that oak crotches split after sawing. Unlike some other woods like walnut.
On to 2020!
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