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Having second thoughts
« on: January 22, 2023, 06:53:53 PM »
I had pretty much decided to sell my norwood and buy a lt40 woodmizer.  Paid my deposit and ordered one. Friday I got an email from norwood saying they were having a sale on the total hydraulic package for my hd36. Honda powered pump and valves,  log rests, 2 plane clamp, chain turner, loading arms, and hydraulic toe boards for $10,900. The norwood cuts straight and fairly fast now that I've spent a couple years learning and modifying things that needed it. Being a one man operation it would probably serve my needs well. So now I'm wondering if I should continue with this one, or sell it and spend $$$$$ for a different color orange. I know woodmizer has better customer support,  but there isn't anything on my hd36 that I can't fix or get parts for locally.  
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Re: Having second thoughts
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2023, 07:00:45 PM »
You know the mill, it serves what you need it to do, pretty sure I recall you saying it's paid for. So for $11K you effectively get the functionality of the 40.  

You can add a lot of support equipment with the difference in cost and increase your efficiency and profit margins as a result. 

There will always be the opportunity to spend more money on a bigger mill down the road. 

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Re: Having second thoughts
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2023, 07:05:10 PM »
I'd be in the same boat.  Spend the money for the upgrades, and you'll be sawing with an improved and debugged machine that you are used to.

If you are happy with the Norwood, then you'll be even more happy with the upgrades, I think.  Plus you won't be waiting around for a year.   
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Re: Having second thoughts
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2023, 07:38:43 PM »
  but there isn't anything on my hd36 that I can't fix or get parts for locally.  
That would mean a lot to me.  ;)
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Re: Having second thoughts
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2023, 08:01:18 PM »
Keeping the norwood ,adding hydraulics, and better support equipment is probably going to put me farther ahead.  That extra money might be better spent on things like fixing my old edger, building a kiln, etc..
My hd36 will cut as much as I can handle in a day working by myself. 
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Re: Having second thoughts
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2023, 08:21:22 PM »
Your reasoning is solid and you will certainly get no argument from me.  :P
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Re: Having second thoughts
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2023, 09:23:42 PM »
You all know my answer. It would be alot more work and a lot less money.

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Re: Having second thoughts
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2023, 10:04:59 PM »
Ask mood what his answer is.. I bet it has something to do with a big round spinning plate? Well worth the extra work.

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Re: Having second thoughts
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2023, 05:28:05 AM »
 
 A Honda powered pump for the hydraulics is really reliable.  Steve  
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Re: Having second thoughts
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2023, 05:23:53 PM »
 
 Also a chain turner is way faster than a claw turner and you can do more things with it.  Steve
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Re: Having second thoughts
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2023, 05:37:28 PM »
Just my $0.02.  Which is worth less because Ive never run a bandsaw.  So maybe $0.01. 

Id get the hydraulic setup for the mill you have.  Youre already comfortable with it.  And theres going to be some loss of time/production between selling, buying and learning a new mill.  vs maybe 10-12 hrs setting up the hydraulics on a mill you know how to run well.  

A friend of mine just assembled a new Norwood with hydraulics.   I forgot the model. Its a bigger one.  His second Norwood mill.  He showed me the setup over the weekend.  Hasnt cut any wood yet but ran all the hydraulics and it was a slick setup.  Toe boards, back stops? (Im not familiar w/ bandsaws), dog and a chain turner.    No loading arms.  It was a nice setup.  Although it would be nice with electric start for the hydraulic pump.  The saw has elec start, 31 cut Capacity, and a manual (push) carriage. 
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Re: Having second thoughts
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2023, 11:21:47 AM »
Ordered the hydraulic package for my hd36 today.  Should be a game changer for me.
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Re: Having second thoughts
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2023, 11:28:24 AM »
Good for you 
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Re: Having second thoughts
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2023, 06:28:06 PM »
Ordered the hydraulic package for my hd36 today.  Should be a game changer for me.
Patrick, I'm interested in what you learn with the upgrades.  
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Re: Having second thoughts
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2023, 08:53:59 PM »
Good decision Patrick.
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Re: Having second thoughts
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2023, 08:28:56 PM »
Ordered the hydraulic package for my hd36 today.  Should be a game changer for me.
And on a lot of forums they say "we're here to help you spend your money"😄
I (also) think you made the sensible choice! You'll have half a brand new mill when you're done. 


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