Hubris got the best of me thinking I could rebuild an automatic transmission, reality taught me a harsh lesson. So after more hours and dollars than I care to mention went down the drain, I did what I should have done to begin with.
Ole Hee Haul is now sporting a ZF5, 5 speed manual tranny. Found a seller on CL downstate with the trans, pedal assembly, shifter and all. After yet more hours and dollars than I care to remember, the Ole Boy rides again.
As I bonus, the 5.71 1st gear combined with 4.10 axles means Hee should be able to tow a loaded freight car in 4 wheel low. The overdrive 5th should pay for itself in 10-20 years.....
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Forgot to mention, popped a rib out crawling underneath Hee Haul a couple days ago, so the final stages of the install were extra challenging.
Ooh... that rib can't feel none too good!
Hope you heal up as good as Hee Haul.
is that a f250 with the ifs front axle? has it cracked yet? the one on my 97 cracked a couple times. then i fixed it. thru it in the junk pile and put a dana 60 in its place. it will bolt in
Quote from: snowstorm on December 19, 2014, 06:30:09 PM
is that a f250 with the ifs front axle? has it cracked yet? the one on my 97 cracked a couple times. then i fixed it. thru it in the junk pile and put a dana 60 in its place. it will bolt in
Solid axle on leaf springs. I thought a previous owner had swapped it in, but I've been told you could order them that way.
If that truck has a solid dana 60 under it then somebody swapped it there. In the year range all the F250's and single rear wheel F350's had a dana 44 or dana 50 twin traction beam leaf spring independent front axle.
The ZF5 is a good box but make sure reverse is fully engaged before releasing the clutch or overtime it will wear out and pop out of gear.....
Quote from: chevytaHOE5674 on December 19, 2014, 09:14:37 PM
If that truck has a solid dana 60 under it then somebody swapped it there. In the year range all the F250's and single rear wheel F350's had a dana 44 or dana 50 twin traction beam leaf spring independent front axle.
The ZF5 is a good box but make sure reverse is fully engaged before releasing the clutch or overtime it will wear out and pop out of gear.....
I honestly don't know what it is, besides that it's a really heavy axle on leaf springs. I'll try to get a picture and maybe someone can clue me in.
Round tubes or rectangular? A picture would be easy to tell.
I've always liked that body style Ford. Now that you have the 5 speed manual, a Cummins would make it a near perfect truck. 8)
Quote from: chevytaHOE5674 on December 19, 2014, 09:55:10 PM
Round tubes or rectangular? A picture would be easy to tell.
Rectangular. The axle tubes look like they're part of the same casting as the pumpkin, as well as the ends with hold the kingkpins.
If its rectangular its most likely a ifs(Independent front suspension) dana 50, I have a '92 7.3idi zf5, that I drive everyday and most of an '87 6.9idi m5od parts truck both with ifs dana 50's
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Better pic.
'92 f-250 4x4 7.3idi, zf5, ifs Dana 50, 10.25" Sterling rear end, 3.55 gear ratio,
Luk 12" soild flywheel and 12" clutch, Hydra Bed HB200 haybed
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i swapped the ifs 50 for a dana 60. the 60 came out of a 93 f350 cc so it had hub extentions. i took those off. almost everything will exchange. i did have to use the brake rotors from the 93
I just sold my 89 f350 single rear wheel 4x4. It had the 460 big block zf5 5 speed trans. Power house could pull anything but got around 10-11 mpg. It had the dana 60 solid front axle on leaf springs. I bought it from the original owner but the salty north had done its time on the body and the rear frame. Could still drive it but i would be scared to hook a trailer up to it. If it wasnt for the frame i would have kept it.
I would really like to find a '91-'97 SRW F-350 in really good shape and transplant a 12V Cummin in it with a ZF5 of course. ;D
the ifs dana 50 will usually crack on the drivers side from the front looking to the rear next to the u bolts. if it had a diesel motor and a snowplow there was a real good chance it was going to break
I have a 96 f250 7.3 plow and over 400k and mine is not cracked (yet) :D or did they fix them by this time
My '87 has an ifs dana 50 and approx. 600k on it. No cracks.
Quote from: coxy on December 21, 2014, 05:22:39 PM
I have a 96 f250 7.3 plow and over 400k and mine is not cracked (yet) :D or did they fix them by this time
my 97 did it when it was 2 yrs old. at the time i asked the ford dealer about it. he had 9 trucks waiting to be fixed. the fix was replace the housing. the parts are no longer available. if you find one buy it. if you have to replace the center u joint cut it out with a torch then install the new one
Sorry to highjack Delaware Jack's thread. But Snowstorm you do know the axle shafts do slide out of the housing after the hub is removed, no need for the torch and a lot less clean up. ???
Here's a pic of the front axle. What is it?
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Truck is running great, and the mileage is significantly better. Rear driveshaft will need to be balanced, otherwise all is Honky-Doory!
Quote from: Delawhere Jack on December 22, 2014, 04:13:06 PM
Here's a pic of the front axle. What is it?
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Truck is running great, and the mileage is significantly better. Rear driveshaft will need to be balanced, otherwise all is Honky-Doory!
dana 50 ifs. usually they break between the u bolts drivers side. your truck looks pretty good. up here with the salt it wouldnt
Quote from: JB Griffin on December 22, 2014, 11:06:41 AM
Sorry to highjack Delaware Jack's thread. But Snowstorm you do know the axle shafts do slide out of the housing after the hub is removed, no need for the torch and a lot less clean up. ???
and you have done this?? i am referring to the center u joint not the axle joints. i have done the same thing on axle joints. cut it apart put the new one in. that way you dont have to pull the wheel bearings. on the newer trucks with the sealed wheel bearing it saves a lot of time
Thanks Snowstorm, now I know what to search for if it breaks. ::) But it might just end up in a field with a bag of oats to distract it........
JB, no problem, any info I can find on Hee Haul is welcome. There are some forums on old trucks, but they often aren't much help.
Snowstorm, I had to go look to see if I was thinkin about the right joint and I was and mine is out as I type and has been since I bought the truck. You might be right on cuttin it out as it is the long axle, but mine might be split right next to the u-joint as it has a boot right there but might be just a bumper to keep the axle from beating all over the place when the joint fails. No I have never changed one but will have to shortly, and I have never seen a Dana 50 IFS crack, maybe a northern thing with all the salt they use on the roads.
Delaware your right "those" forums turn into a match in a heartbeat at times.
I mean no disrespect to anyone at all, just stating what I have seen and know.
Quote from: JB Griffin on December 22, 2014, 08:42:36 PM
I mean no disrespect to anyone at all, just stating what I have seen and know.
Road salt is murder on vehicles....... You're not insulting anyone mentioning that, it's just a fact of life.
Its either a dana44hd or dana 50 TTB, most 250's had the 44hd. Measure the diameter of the locking hub if its ~3" its a 44hd if its 4" its a 50.
As for the u-joints all of them are serviceable without cutting anything. On the passenger side the short shaft that goes into the differential is held in with a C-clip inside the carrier, therefor to replace that joint you have to pull the 3rd member out the back of the axle housing. Many guys will then eliminate the C-clip and place a cut down valve spring inside the slip joint, the tension from that will hold the axle inside the differential.
Quote from: snowstorm on December 22, 2014, 07:08:10 AM
Quote from: coxy on December 21, 2014, 05:22:39 PM
I have a 96 f250 7.3 plow and over 400k and mine is not cracked (yet) :D or did they fix them by this time
my 97 did it when it was 2 yrs old. at the time i asked the ford dealer about it. he had 9 trucks waiting to be fixed. the fix was replace the housing. the parts are no longer available. if you find one buy it. if you have to replace the center u joint cut it out with a torch then install the new one
that's what I did then ground the caps a little so they slid in nice :) if you don't cut that u joint you have to pull the front end out and get the keeper of the end of the axel hot wrenches are the best :D