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Title: How to get experience
Post by: ManjiSann on August 31, 2019, 07:50:52 AM
I hope this is in the correct place as I live in the city.

I bought a chainsaw a few months ago and have helped a few friends remove some trees from their yard and absolutely loved it! Would like to try and find more opportunities to run the saw and make a wee bit of money on the side (not looking to start a business.)

Been doing a ton of reading and watching some videos and what I've basically learned is that I know very little about a very large and potentially dangerous subject. I consider myself a pretty intelligent person, able to understand physics and such but I also don't want my confidence (read that ignorance) to get me or someone else injured or damage property. 

So my question is, what would be the best way to gain knowledge and experience? I have a full time job and a family to support, this would be a hobby or side gig at best so hiring on to a tree cutting company probably isn't an option. I'd be willing to help someone who is experienced out for free or very little pay (if I'm going to be using my equipment I do need to cover costs) in my free time but have no idea of anyone local to me that could mentor me. 

Thanks for any advice, 

Brandon 
Title: Re: How to get experience
Post by: Pine Ridge on August 31, 2019, 10:04:19 PM
You could check with loggers, tree service, and firewood cutters that are near you, tell them your situation and that your wanting to learn. We all had to start somewhere, keep looking and i'm sure you will find someone that will give you a chance to gain experience. Above all, be safe !!!!!
Title: Re: How to get experience
Post by: Southside on August 31, 2019, 11:05:27 PM
You are getting toward ranch country there, maybe there is an older rancher who has the knowledge but the means are getting long in the tooth who would be willing to make you a deal?  
Title: Re: How to get experience
Post by: thecfarm on September 01, 2019, 07:55:12 AM
Hard to learn without trees to apply what you learned. ;D Well I mean many trees. Yes,you can take what you have been shown or saw and use that on one tree and that one tree it worked great on. But than 8-10 trees later,that one did not fall where it was suppose. Than you have try to figure out what you did wrong.
Title: Re: How to get experience
Post by: ManjiSann on September 01, 2019, 01:26:29 PM
Thanks for the replies everyone, all great ideas!

I don't know any ranchers, loggers, etc so I was trying to figure out how I'd go about finding such people. 

I was chatting with a fellow at church and just happened to mention chainsaws and what I've been doing and wishing I could find someone to mentor me. This gentleman used to have a landscaping business and right next to him was an arborist. He gave me his number and said to call him tell him he referred me and what my situation was and he'd likely be able to use my help and teach me stuff.  ;D  

Funny how life works out!

Brandon 
Title: Re: How to get experience
Post by: Jeff on September 01, 2019, 04:20:30 PM
That sounds like a great possiblity for you!
Title: Re: How to get experience
Post by: Old Greenhorn on September 01, 2019, 05:51:30 PM
In the northeast we have Game of Logger classes which would be right up your alley and just what you need. I don't believe you will find them around your parts. I know a lot of experienced cutters don't put a lot of stock in these classes, but they can really get you up and running safely if you don't have a mentor to get you through. Look around for some chainsaw classes, they may be available somewhere in you area. Understanding the principals and physics is very important in this game.
Title: Re: How to get experience
Post by: Pine Ridge on September 01, 2019, 07:19:13 PM
X2 on the game of logging !!!!
Title: Re: How to get experience
Post by: ManjiSann on September 02, 2019, 12:59:39 PM
I called and left the fellow a message explaining who I am and what I'm trying to do. 

I'm not putting a lot of hope into him calling back as I'd imagine with liability and him trying to run a business my circumstances aren't ideal for him, but who knows he may need help some time and I'd be able to lend some muscle and a positive attitude  ;D

So with that being said, if there's any forum members who are interested in mentoring someone drop me a line. Currently I'm off Wednesdays and am willing to travel a bit. I'm not looking for a job, just to be taught by someone who knows what they're doing and at the very least can teach me what not to do and why you don't do it and always like helping people out.

Until then, I'll keep lurking and reading  :P

Thanks,

Brandon 
Title: Re: How to get experience
Post by: WV Sawmiller on September 02, 2019, 02:09:12 PM
   Welcome and good luck. I'd think working with another tree service would be even better than the GOL (Which appears to be great training for loggers) IMHO because of the hazards associated with so many tree service jobs. Learning to delimb and take a tree down from the top in pieces small enough to control without damaging structures, fences and utility lines is a real art. I also think one of the first things you are going to need is a very good liability insurance policy. Scraping the bark off or even hanging a tree in another in the forest is a whole lot less traumatic than landing one on a family's house roof or knocking out the power for a city block. :D
Title: Re: How to get experience
Post by: Pine Ridge on September 03, 2019, 07:30:42 AM
Being GOL certified would be good to have on your resume when applying for any job involving chainsaws.
Title: Re: How to get experience
Post by: ppine on December 13, 2020, 02:05:34 PM
You can start by knocking on doors after a wind storm and cleaning up wind thrown trees.  Most are good as fire wood.  Some have ornamental potential like black walnut or cherry.  You can charge to remove the trees, then sell the wood. 

Start by running your saw on fallen trees.  Don't fall any until you learn some more.