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Re: Dating a lane mill
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2021, 08:57:14 PM »
Here are some progress photos of the lane. I sawed one log last week with rusty pitted and chipped bits. It cut, but very inconsistent, which I expected. I just wanted to see sawdust. I put in all new bits this weekend but did not fire the mill in this rainy cold weather. Can anyone tell me what the cast iron bracket with the nub sticking up in the last photo is? 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Dating a lane mill
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2021, 09:17:36 PM »
Very interesting 👍

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Re: Dating a lane mill
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2021, 09:42:05 PM »
That bracket is a hinge pin for a receder bar. The old ones like mine have 2 hardwood bars split in the middle and pulled in with a foot treadle to contact a n iron wheel that turns because the carriage is moving. It lifts the setworks pawl and sends the bunks back for another log. Sometimes you can turn a cant with it and even come forward towards the saw. Most old mills had this feature. They went to steel bars and rubber tired wheels. You mill must have been converted to hyd. Do you see any EM casting marks?              I see you have the old time spreader wheel also. Be careful with that. If a piece, big of small falls between that and the saw, duck fast because it will fly in your face. A knife style splitter is safer but the same thing can still happen. Looks like a style 3 saw, wish you where closer as I should have bits for that. The only way to date it is if they stamped the date in the pully end of the mandrel.

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« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2021, 10:03:52 PM »
Thank you moodnacreek. Wish you were closer too. Not many of these circular Mills running around here that I know of. A friend of mine stumbled upon a saw shop that has been closed for 20years. I took all of the no.3 bits and shanks. There are a ton of B shanks and bits. also a ton of no2 1/2 bits and shanks. I will look for a plate that will receive either of those bits and shanks. What is a more common saw? No.3, No2 1/2, or B?

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Re: Dating a lane mill
« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2021, 07:21:50 AM »
Were all doomed! I came here to see if you were going steady yet and I was thinking the same thing about the dog. 

Shout out to moodnacreek for restoring our reputation and dignity and come to think of that, I dont remember a question being asked here about a sawmill that went unanswered. 

Best members on the planet and bless em for their sense of humor. 

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Re: Dating a lane mill
« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2021, 07:42:23 AM »
Yup - late to the party but my first thought was "Now dating your mill is taking things too far..."  Of course in this day and age identifying as a Sawyer could be a gender, so who knows... :D
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« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2021, 08:29:44 AM »
Osterman, The B and F saws are the popular ones today. Next would be the 2 1/2 and the 3 is not dead yet. Up to the '90's you could get 33, 3 1/2 , 4 1/2 and the D. The last 3 where big gullet saws used mostly on the west coast. As the small mills died out the ones that remained would be large band mills. When I started there where 6 or 7 saw makers [circle mill saws] now there are 2.   Are there any numbers on the little ram the lifts the pawl on your setworks, I am looking for one of these.   Doug

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« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2021, 04:51:37 PM »
Doug. These may be more helpful.
 

 

 

 

 

 

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« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2021, 06:52:37 PM »
O, I think I sent you on a wild goose chase. The Lane's I have seen that had hyd. dogs also had hyd. set shaft , that is a hyd. motor chained to the set shaft. In order to recede the pawl must be raised before the motor starts and they did this with a tiny hyd. cylinder mounted on the set lever. This unit would take the place of the foot operated bar I described that used the cast bracket you asked about [ there are 2 of these]  Looks like you did a good job setting up. Hope you can get a roof over it. There must be something I am not seeing, need to study your photos again.

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« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2021, 06:59:20 PM »
O, I see 1 sm  on your arch with all the pin holes, so if you have a 36" opening that mill is a no. 1 lane. If it has a 30" opening it is a 'tractor' mill beefed up with no. 1 parts and will have em on the slide bases that have the racks bolted to them. Did I tell you I like Lane mills? Doug

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« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2021, 08:14:14 PM »
This does have hyd recede, but you have to manually rotate the set handle to raise the pawl before receding. The head blocks do open up to 36

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« Reply #32 on: June 01, 2021, 10:04:53 PM »
Ah, so you need the same thing I am asking about. This is how [I think] it works: a small hyd, cylinder that looks like a small air cylinder is teed into the motor hose that receds the headblocks. There is nothing stopping them from coming forward. This little cylinder goes first because it is so small and then the motor starts. It must have a spring inside so as soon as you let up the pawl drops back. A friend in the north country has one but the decal is worn off. I have called LWI [??] in vermont and they have no idea about this but the part is out there and is a must have item.            So your sawmill is basically a No. 1, a modern one perhaps from the 70's with that steel husk. This is a good thing and after some tuning up and this cylinder and a log turner it should fly. Stay in touch, Doug

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« Reply #33 on: June 03, 2021, 05:26:53 PM »
Doug, there is a lane mill for sale on fb marketplace in marshfield ma. It looks very similar to mine, and also has what looks to be the Hawkins hyd. Upgrade like mine. Hard to be sure, but it looks like he has the hyd ram that you are looking for a part number for. Might be able to contact him via fb and ask for some info.

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« Reply #34 on: June 03, 2021, 09:33:24 PM »
Doug, there is a lane mill for sale on fb marketplace in marshfield ma. It looks very similar to mine, and also has what looks to be the Hawkins hyd. Upgrade like mine. Hard to be sure, but it looks like he has the hyd ram that you are looking for a part number for. Might be able to contact him via fb and ask for some info.
Oh boy, I got 100 irons in the fire, I will try to find that and Thank You, Doug.

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« Reply #35 on: June 04, 2021, 01:09:23 PM »
O, just got off the phone with the guy. I think we are making a deal. My wife may leave any time now!

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« Reply #36 on: June 04, 2021, 06:05:35 PM »
Ha, I knew you would be interested. Looks like a very clean setup. And the price is very reasonable. Let me know how you make out.


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