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A close call yesterday
« on: June 03, 2021, 06:50:55 AM »
I'm moving all of my equipment home from the big mill I have cut for almost 16 years. My last load that I was hauling home was the mill itself. Knowing that the tires were dry rotted, I went ahead and put new ones on it. They only had to make it 55 miles to the house. You guessed it. Right side tire blew. Bad part is that due to the amount of sawdust corrosion, the tabs that are welded on the frame and bolts to the axle  broke loose. Axle went all the way back to the next two jacks, which put it at a bad angle. Sawmill jumped over in the ditch and almost turned over. Got it all back home but it sure did test the nerves. Y'all with the older mills might want to check those welds.











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Re: A close call yesterday
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2021, 07:00:25 AM »
Dang, Jake.  That will make the pucker worms start crawling.  I am glad you and the mill are okay.  I look forward to seeing how you work the other LT-70 into your setup.  How far did you make it before things went awry?
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Re: A close call yesterday
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2021, 07:01:24 AM »
That mill is destined for the Hall of Fame.
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Re: A close call yesterday
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2021, 07:03:17 AM »
Glad to hear that it all turned out OK in the end. Way too close for comfort. 
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Re: A close call yesterday
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2021, 07:09:30 AM »
I made a little over 30 miles before the tire blew. This is the mill that has over 14,000 hours on it and it has cut over 30 million BF. The mill was cleaned up under every day but the sawdust would sit on top of those places and just keep rusting them out. I guess it is paying me back for all the abuse I have put it through.
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Re: A close call yesterday
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2021, 07:13:06 AM »
Wowser Jake, the way I read it a "new" tire gave up?  I was wondering if the weld gave way first and the resulting damage got the tire and whatever else.  smiley_headscratch

No matter, I'm glad that it wasn't any worse and the old gal can live to see sawdust again with your new sawing profile.  smiley_thumbsup
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Re: A close call yesterday
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2021, 07:17:37 AM »
Tire went first. Everything else followed. All I can figure is maybe a bad tire or it had a slow leak where it didn't seat good on the rim.
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Re: A close call yesterday
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2021, 07:22:11 AM »
Sorry to hear this
Hope you can get it back cutting.
It will be nice just working from your home operation I bet.
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Re: A close call yesterday
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2021, 07:25:40 AM »
Yup, the rim could have been compromised by the sawdust too.  Just goes to show again that no good intention goes unpunished.
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Re: A close call yesterday
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2021, 07:41:11 AM »
How did you end up getting it home?
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Re: A close call yesterday
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2021, 07:58:38 AM »
At least it stayed shiny side up! Its better have your trailer in the ditch but right side up after a blowout, than try to over correct and roll it.
Under bark there's boards and beams, somewhere in between.
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Re: A close call yesterday
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2021, 08:39:02 AM »
No kidding - close call, that came very near to ending a mills life.
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Re: A close call yesterday
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2021, 08:59:51 AM »
Scary....

Glad that you made it home Jake!
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Re: A close call yesterday
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2021, 09:40:54 AM »
I decided to replace my single axle RV trailer tires as one had issues. The other side when I pulled the wheel had a large sidewall bubble not easily seen w/o crawling underneath the trailer. I bought trailer specific tires on Walmart.com on shipped to stored deal which allowed me far more choices than at a store plus I got them mtd & balanced as part of the deal. Hard to buy a made in USA tire these days.
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Re: A close call yesterday
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2021, 09:46:08 AM »
Really sorry to hear and see this!   Glad it was the ditch side that this occurred on.  Glad y'all are safe and others not involved.  

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Re: A close call yesterday
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2021, 09:58:50 AM »
Actually I just remembered that when my 70 went back to Indy in the fall of' 19 they put on new, heavier, tires and wheels, updated the trailer weight rating and all. So for anyone with a 70 it's something to check into. 
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Re: A close call yesterday
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2021, 10:05:46 AM »
i am real glad to see you didnt roll the bed into a twist drill. thatd be a heartache. 


losing a trailer axle is among my two worst destructive testing experiences, and ive run a lot of tests. 






















fortunately this one was detected and i only lost the 1mph turnaround crawl back to the house gamble.  yup, shoulda had it towed before it came off, live and learn.  hard to get ahead when youre money is always behind.  i didnt know what it was on the interstate the day before.. praise the Lord he gave me a bailout on that one. 






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Re: A close call yesterday
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2021, 05:26:29 PM »
   Sorry to hear about it but glad you are okay. Is it still under warranty? :D (Probably not :()
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« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2021, 05:33:57 PM »
Mills are repairable or get replaced,

Glad your OK and no one was hurt

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Re: A close call yesterday
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2021, 06:04:30 PM »
Tire went first. Everything else followed. All I can figure is maybe a bad tire or it had a slow leak where it didn't seat good on the rim.
Have a look at that rim carefully with a light or with some compressed air and check to see if the rim was leaking. Might not have been the tire.
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Re: A close call yesterday
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2021, 06:16:03 PM »
Holy Toledo Batman!  Glad nobody was hurt and the mill was basically unscathed!  

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Re: A close call yesterday
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2021, 08:19:03 PM »
I got to looking at the other tire. They put them on there with a tube in them as they couldn't seat the bead. I bet some of the rust inside wore a hole in the tube and it all went down hill from there.
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« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2021, 09:11:23 PM »
I decided to replace my single axle RV trailer tires as one had issues. The other side when I pulled the wheel had a large sidewall bubble not easily seen w/o crawling underneath the trailer. I bought trailer specific tires on Walmart.com on shipped to stored deal which allowed me far more choices than at a store plus I got them mtd & balanced as part of the deal. Hard to buy a made in USA tire these days.
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« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2021, 09:19:16 PM »
Go with LT tires rather than ST tires.  
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Re: A close call yesterday
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2021, 09:43:23 PM »
About a decade ago I put on my first set of G rated trailer tires, and I will NEVER go back to anything else.  Yup they are spendy, yup they are heavy, yup the guy mounting them complains - (make them balance them - the logic of not balancing trailer tires makes no sense). I had some that gave me an honest 100,000 miles of loaded use and never showed a sign of getting ready to fail.  Been there, done that with trailer tires blowing out, thus the move.     
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« Reply #25 on: June 04, 2021, 01:17:35 AM »
Glad you survived !  Someone up there likes you.....
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« Reply #26 on: June 04, 2021, 02:44:07 AM »
Wow, that's certainly a dicey experience no one likes to experience. Glad you could patch her up and get home safe.
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Re: A close call yesterday
« Reply #27 on: June 04, 2021, 06:23:29 AM »
     That was a really dicey situation.  I'm glad it all worked out with no more damage than you have.  It could have been a lot worse.
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« Reply #28 on: June 04, 2021, 05:29:31 PM »
Go with LT tires rather than ST tires.  
I agree completely but there are no 15" tires capable of handling the weight of my camper according to my tire store manager. I really tried to find them.
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« Reply #29 on: June 04, 2021, 05:31:38 PM »
Were there any Goats around when this happened? :D
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Re: A close call yesterday
« Reply #30 on: June 06, 2021, 12:36:18 AM »
Dang, that looks familiar! I had the same thing happen on my lt30 a few years ago doing about 70 down I5, but it destroyed the rim too. Glad you kept it all shiny side up. 
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« Reply #31 on: June 06, 2021, 10:53:33 AM »
I saw where someone asked how I got it home. Well I had a storage building with a bunch of stuff in it where the mill used to sit. I had hired a rollback to go and bring it home. He called and said he was on his way about 10 minutes before the tire blew. So I called him and told him to abort the shed mission as I had a more important use for him and the shed could wait. When he got there we were trying to winch it on the rollback and everything we did made it want to tip over. A friend happened to drive by with his work truck, he's a mobile mechanic. We got him in the ditch beside the mill and used his crane on the work truck to lift on the top of the mast and keep everything upright. The tire blew a little after 3 P.M. and the mill was in my yard by 5.






5 minutes after the rollback leaves another truck I had hired pulled in the yard with  my loaders. He would have come up the same road so I had backup all the way around and just didn't know it.



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Re: A close call yesterday
« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2021, 03:19:23 PM »


Are you sure this wasn't you and Danny in a "Hold my beer I'm going to try something moment" ?

Just kidding, I'm glad you weren't hurt!!
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« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2021, 08:37:32 PM »
Don't get me involved in this mess.  I am innocent. 
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« Reply #34 on: June 08, 2021, 09:09:48 PM »
Glad you made it out ok. Kinda strange how the newest thing on the mill failed first. It is amazing nothing else broke loose after so many hours. 
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