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Started by HemlockKing, June 13, 2021, 11:09:16 AM

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HemlockKing

Anybody owned one of these tractors? Anything to say about them? Looking at one, was curious 
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Patrick NC

My father had 2 on the farm when I was growing up. 1 gas, 1 diesel. Gasser stayed on the manure spreader as the diesel could be a little hard to start when it was cold. It was fine if you kept the block heater plugged in, but if the cord came unplugged on a day it was below 0° F it was a struggle. Good 60 hp utility tractors. The diesel stayed on the 9' haybine in the summer. It was pretty easy on fuel. Won't set any speed records on the road, but not slow either. English built tractors. Dorchester factory. 
Norwood HD36, Husky 372xp xtorq, 550xp mk2 , 460 rancher, Kubota l2501, Case 1845 skid steer,

Gary_C

I've got a 574 gas with loader that has been a workhorse on the farm for years while milking. Started and run every day winter and summer. We always had the big snow bucket on the loader and it got abused in feed, manure, snow and even dirt work. Never used the pto much as it did not have the power for any pto work we had. It's a little tired right now waiting for an engine overhaul.  Mine had the C-200 cid 4-cyl engine but the 674 may have a 6 cylinder engine. Good utility tractors.
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Patrick NC

The 674 also has the c200. It's rated at 58 hp
Norwood HD36, Husky 372xp xtorq, 550xp mk2 , 460 rancher, Kubota l2501, Case 1845 skid steer,

olcowhand

I have a '77 574 Diesel that still works pretty hard around here. It doesn't have a Block heater, but it will start even on moderately cold days with a little sniff of Starting Fluid. I really like that tractor; has a FEL on it and can do most of the work I'm doing...
I think there's a pic of it from the rear in my Gallery.
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HemlockKing

The one I’m looking at has a front end loader with a massive front bucket, the bucket could use some work like a new edge. This is diesel and i would certainly be using the block heater through the winter. This tractor has power steering and I’m
Happy about that, it’s rather large and has a cab too so I will half to do some pruning higher up on my trails lol . This tractor would be used for general homesteading and minor forestry work(I want to get a winch for it), unfortunately I couldn’t afford the 4x4 I tractor I wanted. Anything 4x4 I could afford only was 25hp.
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Gary_C

I used my 574 for some woods work many years ago and it worked well but took a beating from the brush pushing at the landing. It has an underslung muffler and the muffler, radiator and one hose got damaged. Woods work is hard on any tractor loader without the protection packages. I had to build a front protector to shield the radiator from further damage.
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stavebuyer

A 2wd tractor with chains and loaded tires will pull a lot of logs.  

mike_belben

if you can put the wood on a trailer its pretty amazing how much even 
a small tractor can bring out on a decent trail.
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Patrick NC

Quote from: HemlockKing on June 14, 2021, 05:49:53 AM
The one I'm looking at has a front end loader with a massive front bucket, the bucket could use some work like a new edge. This is diesel and i would certainly be using the block heater through the winter. This tractor has power steering and I'm
Happy about that, it's rather large and has a cab too so I will half to do some pruning higher up on my trails lol . This tractor would be used for general homesteading and minor forestry work(I want to get a winch for it), unfortunately I couldn't afford the 4x4 I tractor I wanted. Anything 4x4 I could afford only was 25hp.
A 25hp 4x4 tractor like my Kubota L2501 will surprise you how much it will do. Mine will lift about 1200# to full height with the front loader and does a good job with a 5' rotary cutter. 
Norwood HD36, Husky 372xp xtorq, 550xp mk2 , 460 rancher, Kubota l2501, Case 1845 skid steer,

HemlockKing

I decided to buy it, put a deposit down, should be here this weekend. I'll upload a a couple picture when it is
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HemlockKing

Quote from: mike_belben on June 14, 2021, 11:42:06 AM
if you can put the wood on a trailer its pretty amazing how much ever a small tractor can bring out on a decent trail.
I was thinking a little trailer rigged up with a cable winch lift for tight area one log extractions. But maybe I don't got enough power in my ATVs. The king quad had a really super low 1st gear. On flat ground no problem I figure 
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zippski

We had a newish (at the time, say late 70's early 80's) IHC 674 with a loader on the farm when I was a young guy. We absolutely worked it to death.  It was a good utility tractor with a tight turning radius and decent handling with the bucket full. The transmissions work pretty well shuttling back and forth although obviously not as good as a new modern power shuttle.

It absolutely will need loaded rears and a good ballast weight on the 3PH to do much maneuvering if you are trying to lift much in the way of logs.  We filled a 55 gallon drum with concrete after we had shoved a cross drawbar through the bottom of the barrel and a short top connector link out the front of the top of the barrel.  That thing is still sitting here gathering rust since we have been running 4WD loaders since the mid-80's.  Oversized front tires were added later.  That helped as well in soft going. 

Many of these units were practically beaten to death on farms, so make sure you have a good mechanic check it out before you pull the trigger.  On the flip side, they are fairly simple to repair and parts are still readily available, both new and used.

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mike_belben

Quote from: HemlockKing on June 14, 2021, 12:25:24 PM
Quote from: mike_belben on June 14, 2021, 11:42:06 AM
if you can put the wood on a trailer its pretty amazing how much ever a small tractor can bring out on a decent trail.
I was thinking a little trailer rigged up with a cable winch lift for tight area one log extractions. But maybe I don't got enough power in my ATVs. The king quad had a really super low 1st gear. On flat ground no problem I figure
i have a king quad and work the daylights out of it.  theyre closer to a light duty tractor or maybe a mule than a quad.  problem is air cooled, no fan and full power at full load going turtle speed. youll boil the motor oil and clutches eventually.  mine slipped in every gear from half way through the midrange gears and up until it fragged a centrifugal clutch spring.  just put new centrifuga clutch, friction clutch and springs, gasket, rear brakes, oil filter and air filter in mine for $190 shipped i think.  
theyre too light for a fully loaded forestry trailer imo but you can pull about a half cord at a time in easy ground without burning it up.  ive slide backwards in clay soup on even mild slopes but my tires were getting pretty slick. 
theres a lot of pics of mine in the daily fab thread. 
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HemlockKing

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HemlockKing

It's here  :)
Time to toy around a little figure it out 
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HemlockKing

Other than some hydraulic fluids leaking it works good. Seemingly the cylinders aren't leaking it seems to be coming from the hose thread lock nut, will tackle that first, I hate leaks.
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HemlockKing

Quote from: mike_belben on June 14, 2021, 02:22:11 PM
Quote from: HemlockKing on June 14, 2021, 12:25:24 PM
Quote from: mike_belben on June 14, 2021, 11:42:06 AM
if you can put the wood on a trailer its pretty amazing how much ever a small tractor can bring out on a decent trail.
I was thinking a little trailer rigged up with a cable winch lift for tight area one log extractions. But maybe I don't got enough power in my ATVs. The king quad had a really super low 1st gear. On flat ground no problem I figure
i have a king quad and work the daylights out of it.  theyre closer to a light duty tractor or maybe a mule than a quad.  problem is air cooled, no fan and full power at full load going turtle speed. youll boil the motor oil and clutches eventually.  mine slipped in every gear from half way through the midrange gears and up until it fragged a centrifugal clutch spring.  just put new centrifuga clutch, friction clutch and springs, gasket, rear brakes, oil filter and air filter in mine for $190 shipped i think.  
theyre too light for a fully loaded forestry trailer imo but you can pull about a half cord at a time in easy ground without burning it up.  ive slide backwards in clay soup on even mild slopes but my tires were getting pretty slick.
theres a lot of pics of mine in the daily fab thread.
Even if I have problems after a bit of beating it oh well. I got the thing for 250$ the tank leaked bad, came with a extra tank though so I only have time invested into it not cash. I have only drove it around the driveway since and it has been setting in storage. It's a great bike, when I was swapping the tank which involves removing EVERYTHING, I noticed lots of stuff were untouched, lots of the bolts and screws hadn't
Come unfastened since factory, no gasket maker etc, basically good signs. I'm meaning to get some
Good use out of it shortly I just haven't the time yet, I will certainly be looking to the fab thread for the attachments and so on that you made for yours. 
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farmfromkansas

Had a 986 bought new in '81, the front end needed a zerk lower down on the spindle, and mine wore out the bearings on the bottom.  You might want to check those before you find your front end giving out.  Motor on the 986 was fantastic, easy starting in winter, could just plug in the block heater for a few minutes before firing it up.  Worst thing is the transmission, can't shift without grinding gears. If you don't have the tires loaded already, don't do it.  Add wheel weights instead.  That constant rocking of the liquid back and forth will wear out your rear end, at least that is what the dealer advised. I added some 1100 pound rear weights, bought used from Abilene Machine.
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mike_belben

Nice ride.  What motor and injection pump?
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mike_belben

When you put the king quad back together, put a $10 aftermarket fuel petcock.  The vacuum one is trash.  Also delete the fuel pump under the fender.. Just run a line out of the tank to a clear filter to the carb.  Blow in the vent hole to prime it first time and plug the extra carb ports.  Otherwise these notoriously drain the gas into the engine until its full. Youll have a lot of new junk oil to burn that way.


Oh and saw the bolt feet off back of the airbox.  Theyre terrible to get in.  I put a generic starter solenoid on the rack with a lawn battery so i never have to pull plastics again!
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HemlockKing

Quote from: mike_belben on June 19, 2021, 02:53:14 PM
Nice ride.  What motor and injection pump?
Diesel. I'm not even sure on the injection pump. I'm gonna be learning a lot about it shortly though lol 
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HemlockKing

Quote from: mike_belben on June 19, 2021, 02:55:35 PM
When you put the king quad back together, put a $10 aftermarket fuel petcock.  The vacuum one is trash.  Also delete the fuel pump under the fender.. Just run a line out of the tank to a clear filter to the carb.  Blow in the vent hole to prime it first time and plug the extra carb ports.  Otherwise these notoriously drain the gas into the engine until its full. Youll have a lot of new junk oil to burn that way.


Oh and saw the bolt feet off back of the airbox.  Theyre terrible to get in.  I put a generic starter solenoid on the rack with a lawn battery so i never have to pull plastics again!
Oh it's been together for over a year. I believe when I put it back together I capped the vacuum to the carb and just bypassed it. I remember thinking what in the heck with this contraption, just give me a normal design
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mike_belben

Keep tabs you arent 'makin oil' in the site glass. 
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HemlockKing

Looking to change the hydraulic fluid. I can't find a service manual. Is this the drain plug for the hydraulic? And I understand this uses "hy-trans" fluid? I assume the power steering is powered by that too? Thanks anyone who can help . 


 
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