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Title: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: DanG on November 07, 2013, 11:54:19 AM
I've been wanting to try this for a while now, and I'm finally going to do it today.  Yesterday, I bought a small corned beef brisket and I'm going to smoke it.  Now this may or may not be a common practice, but I've never heard of doing it.  I recently aquired one of those barrel-type smokers with the side firebox and haven't used it yet, so I may as well get two new things out of the way at once.  I plan to smoke the meat for 3 or 4 hours, then close it up and apply the little spice packet, and cook it for 3 or 4 more hours with medium-low heat.  I still haven't decided what wood to use.  I have on hand, pecan, oak, cherry, mulberry, peach, apple, sour orange, maple, and I would need a quick visit from WDH to determine what else might be growing here. ::) :D

So, my questions are: 1. Has anyone else tried this before and how did it turn out?  2. Which of the woods I listed would be appropriate for such a project?  3. Am I nuts, or an incredibly brilliant culinary innovator, or have I just been living under a rock?
Title: Re: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: Mooseherder on November 07, 2013, 01:30:17 PM
I love Smoked Brisket and Corned Beef Brisket isn't too far down the list of my favorites foods.  Hope it turns out good.  Usually a baked Corned Beef is much saltier than one that is simmered in water but that isn't necessarily a deal breaker.  If you find it is salty next time boil it for a half hour or so first before the smoker.  This cut if not tender just means it isn't cooked enough yet. :)
If I was closer you'd a had a visitor later.
Title: Re: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: fishpharmer on November 07, 2013, 01:38:38 PM
Sounds good to me. 8)

Brilliant, I say.
Title: Re: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: DanG on November 07, 2013, 01:42:05 PM
It ain't too late Glenn.  I just lit the charcoal and plan on about 8 hours cooking time.  You could be here by then. I just may go in there and boil the thing for a little while, now that you mention it.  I've never done corned beef any way but boiling before and didn't think about the excess salt.  Thanx!

Got no response on the wood ? so I have oak and pecan standing by and there is a low hanging cherry branch about 50' from the grill.  Forgot to mention that I also have pear and grapevine available.  ;D
Title: Re: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: Burlkraft on November 07, 2013, 01:52:36 PM
DanG you are a culinary God!  :D

I smoke brisket all the time. It sounds like you have a good plan. I use hickory or mesquite usually.
Have at it and be sure we have some pics also

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Title: Re: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: Raider Bill on November 07, 2013, 02:06:11 PM
Heck your just making pastrami!

pecan
Title: Re: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: DanG on November 07, 2013, 02:35:14 PM
Really?  I love pastrami, so I shouldn't be disappointed.  I never thought about how it was made.  It ain't the first time I've invented something that has been around for centuries!  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: DanG on November 07, 2013, 02:40:38 PM
Well I'll be DanG!! ;D  Not that I don't trust my buddy, Raider Bill, but I looked it up for verification.  Making pastrami is exactly what I am doing.  Who woulda thunk? :D
Title: Re: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: Raider Bill on November 07, 2013, 02:50:33 PM
 ;D :D ;) :) 8) :P ::) :christmas: smiley_tom_dizzyguy01 smiley_nananana smiley_contract_point smiley_daisy
Title: Re: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: Gary_C on November 07, 2013, 03:02:57 PM
I think Bill's response means that if you doubt him again, his dog is going to come and do something to your smoker.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: DanG on November 07, 2013, 03:10:59 PM
It has been a long long time since Bill has been able to say "I told ya so".  Glad I was able to help. ;D :D :new_year:
Title: Re: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: fishpharmer on November 07, 2013, 03:11:16 PM
I like pastrami!
Title: Re: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: Mooseherder on November 07, 2013, 03:15:53 PM
That Turkey Oak or is it Blackjack you have Dan sure has a sweet smell to it.  :)
I've never made pastrami before.   I thought that was just peppered corned beef.
Title: Re: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: moosehunter on November 07, 2013, 03:55:14 PM
My bride makes corned beef out of venison, so I guess it is corned venison really. I'll ask her to prepare one for the smoker. It sounds good! We usually cook it in the crock pot.
Title: Re: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: Raider Bill on November 07, 2013, 04:02:48 PM
Quote from: DanG on November 07, 2013, 03:10:59 PM
It has been a long long time since Bill has been able to say "I told ya so".  Glad I was able to help. ;D :D :new_year:

I was beginning to wonder if I was ever going to be able to say it again ;D

Quote from: Mooseherder on November 07, 2013, 03:15:53 PM
That Turkey Oak or is it Blackjack you have Dan sure has a sweet smell to it.  :)
I've never made pastrami before.   I thought that was just peppered corned beef.

Smoking  turns a corned beef into pastrami.
Title: Re: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: DanG on November 07, 2013, 04:32:41 PM
Water oak is what I have handy.  I also have some laurel oak growing but don't have any cut.  I need to find some turkey oak.  It doesn't grow up here on the hill but there is plenty of it a few miles south where the sandy coastal plain starts.  It is my favorite for cooking and heating.  I have a couple of pieces of water oak and a bunch of pecan on top of the coals and it is merrily smoking away. 8)
Title: Re: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: Mooseherder on November 07, 2013, 04:41:35 PM
My buddy from Perry had brought me quite A load of that Turkey oak a few years ago.  It was the best Oak I've ever used.  I'm hungry now.  The cooking part is half the fun and I'll try it soon. :)
Title: Re: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: Raider Bill on November 07, 2013, 05:05:53 PM
We have Turkey oak down here. Also my favorite oak for smoking.
Title: Re: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: DanG on November 07, 2013, 10:38:06 PM
Okeydokey, somebody aksed for pix and here they are.

The smoker:

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10074/cook01.jpg)

The meat:

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10074/cook02.jpg)

Finished(I think):

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10074/cook05.jpg)

Inside:

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10074/cook06.jpg)

NOT FINISHED! The flavor is excellent, but it just isn't done enough.  I decided not to wrap in foil for the last half of the cooking time, and that may have been a mistake.  It is now wrapped and in a 300 degree oven.


Title: Re: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: drobertson on November 08, 2013, 09:06:41 AM
All that's lacking is some fresh rye!  Looks real good,  I reckon I will be planning something for tonight now, this food topic has caused me to cook and eat more, ;D  david
Title: Re: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: Raider Bill on November 08, 2013, 09:19:46 AM
DELISH!!
Title: Re: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: DanG on November 08, 2013, 10:32:06 AM
Sure did look good, didn't it?  After sampling a couple of slices, I wrapped it in foil and put it in the oven for a while, which helped a little bit but it was still on the tough side.  I kinda overdid it with the pecan smoke too, so my technique needs some work. It was my first time cooking on that type of grill.  I had been wanting to try one of those and now I'm glad I waited until a freebie came along! 8) 8) :D  I'm also glad I chose the smallest brisket they had!
Title: Re: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: thecfarm on November 08, 2013, 10:38:00 AM
As I say,I have to do things twice to know how to do it the second time. Sometimes more than twice too.  :D
Title: Re: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: Raider Bill on November 08, 2013, 10:52:48 AM
 One thing I do is put some apple juice or left over black coffee in the foil. Each gives it a little different taste and keeps things juicy.

I like those offset smokers gives you a lot of control.

One thing I do with a offset is build up a hot bed of coals in the fire box then dump a good amount of smoking chips on the fire so you  are making a large amount of smoke and knocking down the heat. Now take a dinosaur steak or steaks and put it in the smoke chamber at the furthest point from the fire box,  pour the smoke to it as the smoke seals in the juice. Once you figure you've had enough smoke [everyone's taste is different] stir the firebox up and get it HOT. Sear each side of the steak directly on the wood fire till it has reached your desired inside temp. Take off fire and let it set 5 minutes then eat.



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Title: Re: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: doctorb on November 08, 2013, 11:48:35 AM
Who is that other place set for? ;D ;D :)  Anybody I know?
Title: Re: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: Raider Bill on November 08, 2013, 12:05:36 PM
Quote from: doctorb on November 08, 2013, 11:48:35 AM
Who is that other place set for? ;D ;D :)  Anybody I know?

My Son Wild Bill!

We spent 10 days at the Billarosa just Father and Son in October. 8) 8)
Title: Re: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: Roxie on November 08, 2013, 12:42:18 PM
Oooooooh!  I want the tomatoes and onion on that plate! 
Title: Re: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: Raider Bill on November 08, 2013, 02:02:18 PM
Quote from: Roxie on November 08, 2013, 12:42:18 PM
Oooooooh!  I want the tomatoes and onion on that plate!

With minced garlic and some balsamic vinegar.
Title: Re: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: LeeB on November 08, 2013, 03:21:22 PM
Dan, prop the lid open just a crack at the start until the smoke clears out a bit. once the wood has burned down to good hot caols you can close it back. If you add more wood, you might want to prop it up again. Add just a little at a time.
Title: Re: Gonna Try Something...
Post by: Mooseherder on November 08, 2013, 06:09:17 PM
I've cooked a whole Packer Brisket on a smoker we have up at the cabin just like yours.
It turned out nice and tender but I cooked it about 10 hours because it was a biggun.
Did you try the boiling first part?  If you did, maybe that's what messed you up. :D