New EPA restricted saws

[Rocky_J]

Yes, and the 575 was the unsuccessful replacement for the 372. It did so poorly that Husqvarna had to revamp it after only a year. The 576 sounds like it might be good, but I'll wait and see. I still have four 372's (including one brand new) so I'm set for a few years.

[HolmenTree]

The Husqvarna 576XP AutoTune is the strato replacement for the 372XP.
Willard.

I think 576xp autotune is the replacement of the 575xp: same cc engine and much more. 372 xp is at a lower level...

The 372XP  is 70cc, 372XP W is 75cc.
576 is 74cc.

[HolmenTree]

Yes, and the 575 was the unsuccessful replacement for the 372. It did so poorly that Husqvarna had to revamp it after only a year. The 576 sounds like it might be good, but I'll wait and see. I still have four 372's (including one brand new) so I'm set for a few years.

The 575 came from the days when Electrolux owned Husqvarna. Since Husqvarna broke away from Electrolux a few years ago and back on their own again 30 yrs later, they seem to have gone through a big restructure. Now we have the 576 AutoTune.
I hear some fallers on the west coast are running the AutoTunes and some of the dealers have figured out how to mod them.
When I said the 576 replaces the 372 I didn't mention the 575 because the 575 was just a hic-up.
A  372 XP X Torque coming out this spring is news to me.
Willard.

[windthrown]

Old news... (X-Torque models of the Husky 372 and the 365). I saw a similar note at my Husky dealer when I asked them about this some months ago, and friends in NY said that they had the same information from their dealers there. This will also impact the J-red 2171.

This was posted last September on another forum from a Husky dealer in the southwest (the email was from his distributor):

We will have the following new Husqvarna saws in 2010:

372XP x torq
Production of the existing 372 will stop in Dec.2009

We are working to ensure that we get our production needs in SOP and the units built in 2009. The new unit (emission ready) is planned to start the first week of Jan.

We "building" inventory to cover Jan 2010 needs and then move into the new unit 01 Feb.

On the 372XPW (75cc version) we can have 500 of these and this will carry us into the second quarter. We need to discuss where the inventory resides....

The new 365 x-torq production will start in mid March 2010- we will plan on a late May 2010 market intro.

I recommend you get the orders in today, and begin building back-orders for any 372's that you want delivered before production is stopped.

[HolmenTree]

Interesting.
So if this affects the Jonsered 2171, then who owns Jonsered? Did Jonsered break from Electrolux too?
Did Jonsered and  Husqvarna stick it out together?
Willard.

[windthrown]

Really old news... Electrolux spun off Husky about 4 years ago.

In 1978 Electrolux had acquired Husqvarna and put it under the outdoor products division. All the outdoor products that Electrolux subsequently acquired  like Redmax and Jonsered were put in that division. In 2006 Electrolux spun off Electrolux Outdoor to shareholders and it became the new parent company named Husqvarna AB, also known as The Husqvarna Group. Shares were then issued for the new company in the name of Husqvarna. Husqvarna is now a huge holding company, and they own a lot of chainsaw labels and brands, and they are acquiring more (like Gardenia in 2007). They own all of the following chainsaw equipment and outdoor products labels: Poulan, Poulan Pro, WeedEater, Gardena, Husqvarna, Flymo, Zenoah, Jonsered, Klippo, Dixon, RedMax and Partner. They also own the McCulloch name. Husky also has some other tools divisions targeting the building trades.

Husqvarna had a major corporate reorganization on January 1, 2010, and I do not know where the products are within the company now. They used to be split between the professional products group and the consumer products group, but there was a lot of overlap. Husky saws were made in both groups (low end and high end saws with the same name). At any rate, Jreds are basically just rebranded Husky saws now, as are Poulans at the low end. Husqvarna posted a major reorg to the press a few months ago, basically saying that they are moving major divisions across national borders, and moving more facilities from places like Italy to Asia and Eastern Europe. They have also changed the internal divisions of the company. I presume that that reorganization is still taking place.

[567paloggger]

way to much crap going on with husky and that company to support like stihl its one company not one company owning everything and i bet there pro saws are getting made cheaper and cheaper

[bl73]

I'll stick with the Jonsered and Husky XP's every company out there is trying to get away with making things cheaper and disposable, as long as you stick with the pro models you should be getting a quality product, as far as the new epa driven models go I'm happy my saws have alot life in them till these new products prove themselves be it stihl, husky, dolmar, ect.

[SwampDonkey]

Our brush saws by Stihl are German made, always have been. Are your brush saws coming from Germany to?

[HolmenTree]

Thanks for the Husky info windthrown.

Willard.

[Warbird]

Ok, this is just a hypothetical question, I'm not looking to buy a new saw, just curious as to what you guys think.  Out of all the newer, EPA restricted saws, which ones would you say are the best in their class?  Lets assume you can't get your hands on an older 372xp or ms361 or the like, and arent holding onto older saws (I know alot of you are doing just that).

My opinion about the EPA sticking their... nose...  where it doesn't belong is best summed up in this post I made a while ago:

https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,42187.msg610219.html#msg610219

As for which saw, I will not buy one of the new EPA restricted saws until I am absolutely forced to.  In fact, I am in the market for a used ms361.  Got one you'll sell me for a good price? 

[567paloggger]

i have 3 brand new 361s im looking to trade for a newer 372 husky

[beenthere]

I would like to trade for them, but I don't have a 372 Husky.  ;D
A good deal for someone.

[windthrown]

Hell, I will trade you a brand new 372 for three brand new 361s... ;)

[567paloggger]

haha your funny

[windthrown]

Well, you are the one that said:

i have 3 brand new 361s im looking to trade for a newer 372 husky

It literally says that you are looking to trade three brand new 361s for a newer 372 husky...  :

[Rocky_J]

I have a brand new 75cc 372 Husky (with about 2 tanks of fuel run through it) and I'll trade it for only two brand new 361's.  8) 8)

[windthrown]

*DanG, I am being outbid!

[567paloggger]

sorry guys none of you are going to get my 361s i bought them for backups to my huskys and my dolmar

[Warbird]

Kinda strange to keep your best on the sidelines but to each his own.  ;)

[windthrown]

Yah, I do not have a Dolmar, and I run my three 361s as my main runners.

[567paloggger]

i like my husky 357xp and 372s xp better but i like alot of saws out there

[bill m]

My 372xps' are good but I like the 044/ ms440 better. I wish I could find a new one. My 036 will cut circles around my 361.

[windthrown]

You must like higher vibration saws.

Sorry, no new 440s out there, and no new 360s either. 361s and 372s are all but gone now too.

Its 441s and 362s now, and the soon to be released 372x-Torque.

[HolmenTree]

You might have better luck finding brand new 372XPs up here in Canada. My Husky dealer just brought in 4 brand new 372XP W's with full wrap heated handles for a local sawmill. They came out of  Edmonton Alberta.
Willard.