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Title: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: woodbowl on January 13, 2007, 10:12:36 PM
I've got to admit, I don't have the best looking shop in the country, but I can say that I know where everything is and whether someone has been in there while I'm gone.

The smartest small shop that I've ever seen was only about 14' wide. It was just a long skinny building, but the lawn mower repair buisness turned it into a very efficeint work space. On each side along the walls was solid shelves. The first shelf started at around 3' from the floor. This allowed for large heavy items such as air compressor, engines ect.  to be on the floor and the other items could be stored up higher.

There were about four, 4' X 8' work benches in the center, spaced out to allow walk around space. The distance to find something on a shelf was usually just a step away.

I've never seen a more organized small shop than this ......... unless you all know of one.  ;)
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: Tom on January 13, 2007, 10:15:46 PM




All of the organized shops I've ever seen were somebody else's.
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: Corley5 on January 13, 2007, 10:21:05 PM
I dream about an organized shop......
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: Nailhead on January 13, 2007, 10:43:00 PM
Gregg
You mean that when Pasbuild and I stopped by after the piggie roast, your shop wasn't organized ;)
NH

Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: Furby on January 13, 2007, 11:36:53 PM
When I first saw the title of this thread, Pigman's recent post popped into my head.
But I see we are talking about something different, so carry on. :)
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: Mr Mom on January 14, 2007, 09:06:50 AM
     Got them beat my shop/shed is only 10' x 10' and about half is  and storage and workbench.
     Going to start to build my mill in there. Very tight place.



     Thanks Alot Mr Mom
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: Corley5 on January 14, 2007, 09:25:12 AM
Quote from: Nailhead on January 13, 2007, 10:43:00 PM
Gregg
You mean that when Pasbuild and I stopped by after the piggie roast, your shop wasn't organized ;)
NH



We've actually got room to work on a tractor inside now  ;) ;D  As long as it's not a very big one  ;D :)
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: scgargoyle on January 14, 2007, 10:14:29 AM
I've got pictures of my shop floor, so I can show the young'uns what it looks like... :D :D :D
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: Coon on January 14, 2007, 10:26:51 AM
If you want to see DISORGANIZED come and look at my shop.  I didn't know you could store that much junk in an 18x24 shop and still have room to work on a car. ;D
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: DanG on January 14, 2007, 09:09:26 PM
Now, a bunch of you have done seen my "shop," which is just a pole shed with tin nailed up on 3 sides.  There is no floor, except for the dirt, and rain water flows through it in wet weather.  It contains all of my woodworking and mekanikin tools, along with the beergerator and a bunch of other stuff, within the 25x25 boundaries.

Last year, a guy I didn't really know brought me some free logs, so I offered him a cold beer.  When I got the brews from the beergerator and turned around to him, he was standing there with his mouth agape. "Man, you're a lot more organized than I am!" he said.  I'm thinkin' this guy must be the king of the slobs! :D :D :D
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: brdmkr on January 14, 2007, 09:53:10 PM
DanG,

I've seen your shop.  Did you get a chance to look in mine?  I know you didn't go in.  Even I can't actually go in  :D

Your shop was mucho organized realitive to my catchall.  Mine is SOOOOOO bad, I'm building another just to keep from having to straighen out the one I have :o
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 14, 2007, 10:19:56 PM
Mines full of sawdust and shavings and cutoff boards. But, I clean it up after each project. That in itself is a choir. But mines in a barn and it's not even half the width of the barn, maybe 35 x 12 feet and  7-1/2 foot ceiling. Sure heats up quick. ;D
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: metalspinner on January 14, 2007, 11:01:56 PM
Mine is like a submarine - unfortunately, I'm not a sailor. :-\

13' x 60' with 7 1/2' ceilings.  The back 14' is wood storage.  Then you come forward to the work benches (old kitchen cabinets) and  you have to walk on and around more wood piles.  Come forward to machine area and you need to walk on and around more piles of wood to each machine.

All around the shop are projects in various stages of completion.  One of which is a Noah's Arc that's been under constuction for three years. How long did Noah take to make his? :D  I have a hard time doing just one thing all the way through.  When I was a kid, they called that an attention problem, but now, I call it multi-tasking. :)

Some times I just can't stand the clutter any more and I put things away.  Mostly, I believe that is just a procrastination tactic to finishing things.
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 14, 2007, 11:26:50 PM
Oh, well I ain't mentioned the wood piles. That's what's in the rest of the barn, upstairs and down. Both firewood and lumber. ;D :D
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: Paschale on January 15, 2007, 12:05:38 AM
Quote from: metalspinner on January 14, 2007, 11:01:56 PM
Some times I just can't stand the clutter any more and I put things away.  Mostly, I believe that is just a procrastination tactic to finishing things.

You hit the nail on the head with that one!   :D :D :D :D  That's me...far too often.

My shop's a complete mess.  I get moments of frustration, like tonight, where I pick a random corner and start cleaning it up.  There are a lot of roundtuits in my shop.  Just tonight, in fact, I was thinking of making a list of everything in my shop that needs a home, that doesn't have a home.  Once I finished that list, I'd make sure I either built something or bought something to store everything on the list. 

Who wants to bet on that ever happening?   :D
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: tcsmpsi on January 15, 2007, 09:10:50 AM
Shop.   :D

I had not really thought of it in that light before, but in reading this thread, I looked in my own mind's eye to see what my shop looked like.  I couldn't find it.   :D

There is one back here now that is so full of stuff to be fixed, that I cringe in even thinking about it.  It is a very small shop. 

And then there is another shop here that begs to have the sawdust eliminated to find some of the tools, so as to take stock, so as to not replicate for some upcoming projects, and to transport to one of the other shops with more room.  Sort of. 
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: Murf on January 15, 2007, 03:29:39 PM
My shop was really neat & well organized for years, then I bought the place.  ::)

It's been a downhill battle since then.  :D

But I do know where everything is, it's in the shop..........someplace.

I can't usually lay my hands on it straight off, but I know it's in there somewhere.  :-X
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 15, 2007, 03:42:44 PM
Some of you shop guys are real slobs.  ;D :D :D :D :D 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: pasbuild on January 15, 2007, 05:22:38 PM
I spent a great deal of time laying out my shop before I built it, I know what the primary use would be and placed the equipment for maximum efficiency utilizing every square foot, the bench top and floor sweeps incorporated into the dust collection system makes daily clean up a breeze.


YA RIGHT...........the truth is I barely have a path for my wife to get to her car.
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: Coon on January 15, 2007, 08:13:31 PM
Oh yeah.........  Here's one for ya.  I call it: It's Here Somewhere.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12427/Its%20Here%20Somewhere.jpg)


This one shows you how much junk I have piled up along both long walls.  Some places it's up to the rafters.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12427/Critter%20on%20Blocks.jpg)
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: woodbowl on January 15, 2007, 09:24:36 PM
DanG nab it Coon! Now I've got to modify this thread to something like ......... Messiest shop pics, most unorganized shop pics or something like that!

Well ........ I win, cause I got the most pathetic shop there is. It's even more uglier than DanGs shop. If you don't get snake bit going in, your gona have to back out because you sure can't turn around in there.  ::)

Where's my camera at?
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: Paschale on January 16, 2007, 01:19:59 AM
Now Coon, when did you sneak into my shop and snap a picture?   :D
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 16, 2007, 07:45:47 AM
I see he's got his coffee mug and reading material in there. ;D
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: sawguy21 on January 16, 2007, 09:17:37 AM
Good thing you let him know, he is probably looking for that. ;D
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: Coon on January 16, 2007, 11:27:26 AM
That ain't no reading material Swamp that's good ol' firestarter (newspaper)  I ain't got time to read when I am in there unless it is a manual for something because I am usually trying to find something.   ;)
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 16, 2007, 11:40:50 AM
Did the wife confiscate it? :D :D :D  ;)
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: Texas Ranger on January 16, 2007, 11:57:22 AM
Either we all be kinfolk, or, the nature of a shop is to be a little disorganized.  I usually need a flood ta clear out my shop. 8)
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: Coon on January 16, 2007, 12:28:13 PM
She must have.  She won't let any reading material out of the house.  (Or atleast she thinks so.)  :D She says I am to be working in there not doing other things like reading.  If thats the way she wants it I guess I won't be able to take my drawings and notes for Critter out there.  Oh well, it could be worse. Like a cerfew or sompin'   ;) ;)
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: Stephen1 on January 16, 2007, 01:13:08 PM
I cleaned the lower half ofmy barn after 12 years, I know where some stuff is now, I also took 1000lbs of crap to the dump. Ialso was able to put my boat inside for the 1st time in 5 years.  8) i was trying to make room in my leanto so i could buy a mill and start milling, then I broke my heal. My wife loved after the ice storm here, it was the 1st time in 10 years she got her car under a roof.  :D
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: woodbowl on January 16, 2007, 03:47:17 PM
Quote from: Texas Ranger on January 16, 2007, 11:57:22 AM
Either we all be kinfolk, or, the nature of a shop is to be a little disorganized. 

I've heard it said that folks with a messy shop tend to get a lot of things done. Dats why it's messy.   smiley_smug01
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: farmerdoug on January 16, 2007, 06:50:29 PM
Woodbowl,

You have it wrong.  Folks with messy shops tend to get more things done because if they are working on something they do not have to clean their shop. 8) 8) :D

Farmerdoug
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: Raider Bill on January 16, 2007, 07:00:20 PM
I big a beautiful monster garage 3 years ago, all the space I will ever need! I got so much crap I have to keep my mill and lathe in a one car garage. Don't even have room to park my truck inside.  Check these before and afters out.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14445/before.jpg)

and the afters........
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14445/3%20years%202.jpg)

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14445/3%20years%203.jpg)

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14445/after%203%20years.jpg)

Why would a normal person need 4 harley's?
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: woodbowl on January 16, 2007, 07:29:30 PM
Aeyeeee .... that's nice raider. You still have plenty of space left. Like that American flag too.  8)
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 16, 2007, 08:29:13 PM
Raider_Bill, all kinds of room boy.  ;D  8)
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: Coon on January 16, 2007, 08:50:22 PM
I think I am gonna bring my stuff to your shop.  Looks like you have all the bells and whistles :D :D :D  You still have enough room for another half dozen complete harleys and that much more in parts. ;D  I don't think you need to clean the shop yet.  You can still move in there. ;)
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: Raider Bill on January 17, 2007, 08:28:55 AM
I've got 2 more bikes on shelves, basket cases. Most everything is there except the drive to put them together. I figure to sell off all of them but my baby [84 shovelhead] to buy the equiptment I will need in the woods. Everytime I look at that 03 Roadking in the picture I see a tractor smiley_whacko
Shop looks somewhat clean as my father was here over the holiday's and I didn't want to listen to him for 3 weeks about having a dirty shop. Give me about 2 more weeks and it will be back to the normal obstickle course. Man I can't spell.

On another note, I uploaded these pix PDQ! getting better at it.
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: Murf on January 17, 2007, 09:58:33 AM
Yup, there's a bit of a difference there Bill, I noticed it right off!!  ;D

In the before picture the flag is vertical, in after pictures it's hanging sideways now.  ::)

See, not much gettin' by me this mornin' .......  ::)
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: sawguy21 on January 17, 2007, 11:24:57 AM
I think most of us could go nuts in that shop. Wow.
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: johncinquo on January 17, 2007, 12:19:36 PM
Why do you need 4 harleys?  Maybe you can get ONE to work!   :D   This of course from the guy with a severe case of MBS.  I have had up to 8 at the start of spring before.  I usually pick a few up over the winter, tinker with them, and put some up for sale come spring.  After of course trying them out a few times! 

My great-grandfather was a pretty good example on organization.  Every tool always in its place, every nut, nail, bolt, washer, string, fitting, in a container and labeled and put back when not in use.  He could walk in, pick up each thing he would need for a job, and start working in moments.  At the end of the day the shop was swept out, rubbish removed, and everything put back into place.  Mind boggling to me!  I guess a lifetime of military living would have its effects.  My garage looks like a bomb went off most of the time.  I know a big part of it is I have too many projects going at once, bikes apart over here, a cabinet to finish over there, chainsaws waiting for lost parts on the bench, complete chaos.  Of course putting the tools away would help make the next project go smoother, but when you caome back to one how are you going to remember you need a 4.4mm allen head wrench to put that bolt back in place...  I am trying to pick up more between and after projects more now and have found it is actually a much better way to work.  Not spending 20 minutes searching for the ratchet you left under a set of used tires helps make your project go smoother.  I got so disgusted one time I went and bought a new set of metric 1/4 drive sockets because I got tired of looking for them.  Next week I found em under the hood of the Opel, where I was planning on putting the carbuerator back on....  Such is life.   I did go buy a dozen 22 gallon rubbermaid totes for projects organization.  I can fit just about everything I need when working on something into it if I have to wait to get a part or tool.  When I get back to it no nuts or bolts have wandered off and in the meantime the workbench is clear for other things.    You can fit a straight 6 engine completely dismantled into a rubbermaid tote!  Its tough getting it on the shelf though.
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: scgargoyle on January 17, 2007, 04:43:31 PM
Turns out Raider Bill lives about 3 miles up the road from me. Wonder if he's every had someone break into his shop and LEAVE stuff? :D :D I can't wait to see what his plans are for his acreage. I'll have a shop that big once I get up to the country in SC. I've always dreamed of a 4 car garage with a small house out back. I'm getting closer to that every day!
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: tcsmpsi on January 17, 2007, 06:32:03 PM
One of my smaller shops...

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13641/repair%20shop.jpg)

(helps keeping 'helpers' out)   :D
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: Slabs on January 17, 2007, 07:54:33 PM
Waaal now!!!

Looks like I'm in th' right crowd, Huh Olen?????
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: woodbowl on January 17, 2007, 09:09:49 PM
Slabs ..........  when I saw the pic that tcsmpsi posted, I said now that looks just like slabs' shop!

Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: arj on January 17, 2007, 09:32:57 PM
I`d post a picture of my small on the outside, smaller on the inside shop
but the camera would not fit inside.
                                                         arj
Title: Re: A small organized shop, small on the outside, big on the inside.
Post by: Raider Bill on January 18, 2007, 10:21:13 AM
This house / shop was my dream, pretty much cost a marriage but a small price to pay for so much fun. She just didn't understand. Oh well like they say in the barber shop.......... next
I put up the flag as soon as the roof went on, I moved it so anyone driving by could see a american lived here when the OHD was open.
It took 3.5 years to get approved by the city, there was all kinds of issues, even the local paper and TV stations got involved. One Commisiner told me that I would get my shop over his dead body, he was not reelected.
I also built a 350 sqft outdoor kitchen and a 800 sqft sports/football room at the same time. Total project 2395 sq ft addition. BAsically the house is 5200 sqft, with 4 bathrooms, 3 kitchens and one bedroom, how's that for bacholer living?  I count the shop as living space.

Quote from: scgargoyle on January 17, 2007, 04:43:31 PM
Turns out Raider Bill lives about 3 miles up the road from me. Wonder if he's every had someone break into his shop and LEAVE stuff? :D :D I can't wait to see what his plans are for his acreage. I'll have a shop that big once I get up to the country in SC. I've always dreamed of a 4 car garage with a small house out back. I'm getting closer to that every day!
Brother you are welcome anytime, let's get together!