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Title: Energy Drinks
Post by: Gary_C on January 22, 2013, 09:04:33 PM
I am just amazed when I am in a fuel station and see these displays of those small bottles of energy drinks. And the price is so high too. And then to see so many people buying them.

Now I know that energy is the same as calories, but I can't figure how they get calories into those little bottles. The best way to get pure calories in liquid form is with liquid fat. So it must be just some type of stimulant like caffeine in those bottles. Or maybe it's alcohol.  :D

Don't laugh about the alcohol thing. Years ago they used to sell Geritol in somewhat larger bottles. It was a major sponsor of the Lawrence Welk show. And their slogan was "it makes you feel better fast." But in some states they tried to make the company sell Geritol only in liquor stores because it contained about 18 % alcohol. Yep, it made you feel better, at least for a while.   :D

So how many of you drink those energy drinks? Does it work for you?
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: OlJarhead on January 22, 2013, 09:13:21 PM
Disclaimer:  I sort of sell what I'm about to mention (actually I don't really sell it but I do try to get people to buy it if that makes sense)....

I drink something called ACT (Advanced Cellular Technology) which is technically an 'Energy Drink' though you can't buy it in store.

It is a healthy version of what people do buy and drink (yikes!).  Basically, instead of having tons of sugar they use Stevia to sweeten the drink (0 calories, o glycemic index) and while they do use Taurine and Garuana Root (caffeine) the also use amino acids and vitamins to provide the body with the building blocks for energy production. The concept is that the body will produce energy if you provide it the right ingredients and if the body does it it's 'natural' and there is no crash or downside.

So, yes, I drink an energy drink called ACT (A.C.T.) but it's good for you!  My doctor is always asking me:  what are you doing?!  Your bloodwork just comes back better every year....and he's not kidding. 
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 22, 2013, 09:13:55 PM
I'm not so sure which energy drinks you mean.... different kinds.

I find if I am working really hard and have nothing left, monxxx  helps me get a second wind. Lasts maybe 1-2 hours depending. My son says if he drinks one too fast, makes his heart race.

They just get me back to "normal".
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: Autocar on January 22, 2013, 09:40:41 PM
Heres my two cents on energy drinks, when you work all day and you get tired thats your body telling you something it needs rest. My feeling if you drink that stuff your only hurting yourself health wise.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on January 22, 2013, 09:43:29 PM
I just drink a "SUNDROP". It's a Southern soft drink. Picks me up!  :)

Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: Mooseherder on January 22, 2013, 10:09:11 PM
I've never even tasted any energy drink except for coffee.
What's them taste like. :D
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: Magicman on January 22, 2013, 10:11:09 PM
when you work all day and you get tired thats your body telling you something it needs rest. 

Yup, that is what happens, and when my body talks, I always try to listen.  I have never done an energy drink.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: trapper on January 22, 2013, 10:32:37 PM
OlJarhead for what its worth they use taurine in the cat food I buy  ;D
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: drobertson on January 22, 2013, 10:41:03 PM
I have had one 5 hour energy when they first came out, an all week end long basket ball tourney with my son, 3 hr drive home and thought I would try it, ,,,, what a joke,  next stop good cup of java and a snickers bar did the trick, tired is tired, a bowl of grits with eggs. glass of milk and some rest is the best energy supplement I can recommend.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: jueston on January 22, 2013, 10:55:17 PM
OlJarhead for what its worth they use taurine in the cat food I buy  ;D

in nature cats get taurine from the rodents they eat, if a cat doesn't get enough it will go blind. another useless fact that got deposited in mind and has been waiting for the right moment to be shared.

as for energy drinks, i will admit, i'm addicted. i have a monster every day, and when i don't have one i find myself just thinking about how i can get my hands on one.... but i don't buy all the hype that i'm going to die early because of it, for every study about the harmful effects of caffeine there is another about its positive effects. there have also been several studies that show after 2 weeks of sustained dose, the amount of caffeine we take in has no effect on our bodies, since our bodies just get used to it.

whats interesting to me is that even though they say monster has a lot more caffeine then coffee, if i drink coffee instead of an energy drink i always feel really gittery and then really tired. the energy drinks do not have this effect on me. but half of it might be in my head anyways....
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: Ron Wenrich on January 22, 2013, 11:04:25 PM
I find a caffeine drink like a Coke will give me the necessary lift if I need it.  A candy bar can do the same.  I still haven't figured out why people buy bottled water.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: Gary_C on January 22, 2013, 11:20:19 PM
  I still haven't figured out why people buy bottled water.

Ron, a Coke is just bottled water with a little bit of syrup in it.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: gary on January 22, 2013, 11:44:03 PM
I drink 5 hour energy drinks. If I feel drowsy then I will drink one.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: NWP on January 23, 2013, 12:02:02 AM
Sometimes my wife drinks a Monster drink.  I think it smells terrible.  She says she can tell a difference.  I just drink a diet Coke.  Probably just as bad for you as an energy drink I suppose.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: OlJarhead on January 23, 2013, 01:05:25 AM
Ahhh yes, eat right!  I used to think I did just that but then I watched movies like 'Fat, Sick and nearly Dead' and 'Forks over knives' followed by 'Hungry for Change'.....now I realize I really didn't eat as well as I thought I did.

Bear in mind I ate almost NO processed food (if you drink store bought milk you drink processed milk....just sayin) and even ground my own flour from Hard Winter Wheat (I still do) to make bread with.

Today I eat better (a more balanced diet of protein, carbs and fats with much better carbs and fats) but still ind the ACT an excellent way to keep energy levels up!
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: Ron Wenrich on January 23, 2013, 05:56:20 AM
  I still haven't figured out why people buy bottled water.

Ron, a Coke is just bottled water with a little bit of syrup in it.

I prefer mine with some rum in it.  That's something the local bottler has left out. 
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: Roger2561 on January 23, 2013, 06:12:21 AM
Depending on the day.  If it's hot and humid and I'm operating my chainsaw, I'll have a 16oz bottle of Gatorade with a gallon or 2 of water in the morning and in the afternoon.  The Gatorade is to help replenish the electrolytes that were lost due to sweating and the water, well, to quench my thirst.  The idea is pace yourself when it's that hot and humid, not overdo it.  You've got to listen to your body.  If it's going strong, I'll continue working.  But, if it's still sluggish after drinking all of that fluid it's time to put the chainsaw away and find something less strenuos to do.  Roger 
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: rooster 58 on January 23, 2013, 12:41:40 PM
    I like a splash of coke with Uncle Jack ;D
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: ely on January 23, 2013, 12:52:26 PM
i have had a red bull on occaision, typically no. about once a year i love to have me one of the blue demon energy drinks with a splash of absolut citrus vodka.... a pretty large splash.. and never when im using a chainsaw... usually i reserve that for when i am being a furniture mechanic. ;)
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: loggah on January 23, 2013, 12:55:34 PM
Sailor jerry and coke !! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: red oaks lumber on January 23, 2013, 01:07:28 PM
no caffine or alcahol or nicotine for me just water and eating right . sorry oldjar, i think thats just another "voodoo" drink just like the others that have come and gone but, if you feel it works for you keep on!
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: tyb525 on January 23, 2013, 01:26:36 PM
I used to be practically addicted to monster energy, but I realized it was really tearing my stomach up to the point of vomiting at random every few days. Once I quit drinking that I was fine.

Now I just drink water, pop, milk, and tea, that's pretty much it. I noticed whenever I drink orange juice, I come down with a cold or something the day after ??
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: florida on January 24, 2013, 09:13:36 PM
The only thing in any energy drink that might pep you up is caffeine and they don't have as much as a cup of coffee.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: beenthere on January 24, 2013, 09:47:50 PM
florida
You might want to enlighten yourself with the caffeine in some energy drinks per this site.
http://www.energyfiend.com/the-caffeine-database

5 hour energy     69 mg/fl.oz
Diet Pepsi             3
Mtn Dew               4.5
Coffee Espresso   51
Coffee brewed      13

Which energy drink do you get your figures from?  :)
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: tyb525 on January 24, 2013, 10:02:16 PM
Monster energy drinks have 10 mg/fl oz based on the same site :) Energy "shots" like 5-hour usually contain much, much more caffeine per oz, definitely more than coffee.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: Busy Beaver Lumber on January 24, 2013, 10:20:21 PM
Just give me a good old cup of coffee any day over those crazy energy drinks and their nasty bitter taste.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: florida on January 25, 2013, 09:15:41 AM
beenthere

Yes, but how many ounces in a 5 Hour energy drink?

Actual energy is provided by fuel. In a car that energy is usually gas. In a human body that energy is provided by food. Sugar is the only source of calories(energy) in an energy drink and they have almost none. 5 Hour energy brags that they have NO sugar!

Energy drinks also contain some stimulants but stimulants aren't energy and the amount they contain is too small to last more than few minutes at best.

The bottom line is save your money. If you need a caffeine boost drink some coffee and if you need calories  eat a Snickers bar.

Here's a good WebMD article on energy drinks.

http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-and-supplements/lifestyle-guide-11/energy-boosters-can-supplements-and-vitamins-help?page=4
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: WH_Conley on January 25, 2013, 09:26:59 AM
Many a time I have had Snickers bar and a cup of coffee. That will crank you for a bit.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: Roxie on January 25, 2013, 09:37:41 AM
Looking at the caffeine per ounce is deceiving.  A five hour energy drink has 1.3 ounces with 69 mg caffeine per ounce.  So, 89.7 mg caffeine per serving.  The average 8 ounce cup of coffee has between 80 and 125 mg of caffeine. 

Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: beenthere on January 25, 2013, 11:02:46 AM
Roxie
Good comparison, but the 5 hour energy I see in the ads are 1.93 oz.
So that is 133. About $1 per oz for the 5 hour energy drink on Amazon.

Equal to a 10 oz cup of brewed coffee, and likely the coffee is cheaper for the same energy shot.

My only point was to call florida on his statement. ;)

Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: tyb525 on January 25, 2013, 12:06:49 PM
Plus coffee is warm for these colder months smiley_thumbsup
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: florida on January 25, 2013, 09:21:40 PM
beenthere

5 Hour Energy is the only one that has more caffeine than coffee. Red Bull and Monster both contain about 80mg per 8 ounces while 8 ounces of coffee is about 150 mg. All the rest are 80 or under.

All I was trying to do was save some people money. Your choice is a 79 cent cup of coffee and a $1.50 candy bar or a 2 ounce 5 Hour energy for $3.00.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 26, 2013, 08:17:11 AM
ground my own flour from Hard Winter Wheat (I still do) to make bread with.


The biggest scam with processed wheat is that they call it fortified with 9 essential nutrients. They didn't tell ya the processing took about all of it away to begin with and a whole lot more good stuff, plus added all the bleaching chemicals to whiten it. I use local ground flour from a grist mill.

I drink coffee, but have not drank soft drinks in years and especially not interested in expensive water or energy drinks. I will have a bite of 'good' chocolate once in awhile, even a dish or home cooked chocolate pudding. ;D
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 26, 2013, 08:33:48 AM
You know, it's easy for those beverage makers to push this stuff especially onto the younger crowd that sit in front of video games. Why? Because in a lot of those games the main characters in the storyline are always drinking some kind of potion for special effects like recovering health and stamina. These outfits are very clever witch doctors don't you think?   ;)

A good radio show here on CBC was "The Age of Persuasion" to hear of all the gimmicks imaginable. ;D
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: sawguy21 on January 26, 2013, 12:44:19 PM
I tried Red Bull twice. No more.  ::) It was a quick picker upper but when I came down it was no fun anymore. The second time an acquaintance talked me into a vile concoction called a Jagerbomb, Jagermeister and Red Bull. I had one to shut him up, it was awful.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on January 26, 2013, 01:07:24 PM
When I was a teenager back in the 60's, I remember a drink that came out down here in the South.

It was called "Jogging in a Jug". The company claimed you could drink this and would lose weight without exercise and it would give you extra energy.  Shoot, the women around here went to drinking the fool out of that stuff. The only thing that happened to them was they blew up like a Navy life raft.  :o

They should have named it "Junk in the Trunk".  :D :D :D It was nothing but sugar.

This company quit making it after bad publicity.

Update.......I just looked on the Net. They still sale it!  steve_smiley
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: blackfoot griz on January 26, 2013, 01:18:10 PM
"The only thing that happened to them was they blew up like a Navy life raft"

Now there's a visual!  Gonna be thinking about this all day... :D
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: Raider Bill on January 26, 2013, 01:20:40 PM
"The only thing that happened to them was they blew up like a Navy life raft"

Now there's a visual!  Gonna be thinking about this all day... :D

That got me laughing as well! :D :D :D
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: Corley5 on January 26, 2013, 08:04:41 PM
I think it was Jaeger Bombs but it may have been another concoction made with an energy drink that some kids died from a while back.  Of course they probably had at least 20 of them.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 27, 2013, 06:27:48 AM
I see another drink women around here sell out of their house, called Noni juice. Suppose to be some indigenous Hawain concoction I think.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: tyb525 on January 27, 2013, 10:03:49 PM
I think it was Jaeger Bombs but it may have been another concoction made with an energy drink that some kids died from a while back.  Of course they probably had at least 20 of them.

Someone used to make an alcoholic energy drink I believe.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: jueston on January 29, 2013, 10:59:17 AM

Someone used to make an alcoholic energy drink I believe.

there were a few available here a year or so ago. they outlawed them because some study showed that mixing caffeine and booze increased the number of drunk driving incidents. i think that's pretty funny because they didn't outlaw jack and cokes or jegarbombs.... which has caffeine and booze just the same.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 29, 2013, 02:11:23 PM
As if that would stop it. :D

Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: jueston on January 29, 2013, 06:38:29 PM
hahaha wouldn't be the first time the government passed a completely unenforceable law..
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on January 29, 2013, 08:00:53 PM
hahaha wouldn't be the first time the government passed a completely unenforceable law..
And not the last.  :D