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Thought it was ash but now not sure.

Started by LeeB, September 21, 2020, 06:14:37 PM

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LeeB

Post a pic so we can all learn something.
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

LeeB

'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

WDH

Lee, your tree is certainly bumelia.  The leaves are on short shoots, some of which can be pointy and thorn-like, similar to what you see on an apple tree.  The fruit is a little black drupe, which is a fruit with a pit like a cherry or olive.  The bark is interlacing ridges.  The underside of the leaf is very velvety hairy, with small fine orange pubescence.  It is not a blackhaw.  Our local blackhaw is Viburnum rufidulum, rusty balckhaw. 
Woodmizer LT40HDD35, John Deere 2155, Kubota M5-111, Kubota L2501, Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln, and a passion for all things with leafs, twigs, and bark.  hamsleyhardwood.com

LeeB

I agree with you Danny. I was just trying to put a name to kantuckid's tree.
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

kantuckid

Yes-Black Haw is my tree/shrub.  In the wiki I see they touch on my native part of KS but I'd never seen them until I moved to KY. The white flower clusters stand out in early spring as not much else near that time except maybe Sarvis. They grow in tight clusters causing me to wonder if they are colonial, i.e., inter-connected as locust, Aspen, etc.? 
Viburnum family can be tough to ID as so many out there. 
They grow in the understory in all I see of them unless the understory was removed. 
One of mine is smack dab beside a Southern Crab tree, yet another species I knew not until coming to KY. 
Obviously some species get larger in warmer climates such as S AR, etc.. Sassafrass is rarely much size here-I've had one that was sawmill sized on my place and when it died I cut it. Persimmons the same thing, not often very large here. 
The Black Haw fruits seem to not be a favorite of wildlife as they mostly fall on the ground. They are hard and olive like but much smaller fruit. 
Kan=Kansas;tuck=Kentucky;kid=what I'm not

Don P

Thanks for posting the wiki Lee. Sorta like opening the cyclopedia and getting lost, I'm somehow over to reading about agriculture in ancient Rome  :D.

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