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Unknown scat in woods

Started by OneWithWood, April 16, 2013, 06:13:52 PM

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OneWithWood

Here are a couple of pics of some scat that I came across while shroom hunting.
No I did not find any  :(



 
 

 

I think I know what it is and if it is it is unusual for this area.

What do you think?
The knife is 6 1/4" long.  There were five of these droppings spaced about four feet apart on a path.
Whatever it is has greatly disturbed the soil around a number of trees.  Places where I usually find mushrooms.  :(
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Don't show it to Si......he'll eat it thinking it's Muscadines.  :D
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SwampDonkey

Deer.

Even a moose sometimes will have a change in their stools. Most of the time it's oblong round pellets, but some times it's like cow pies. ;D
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I'm sorry for eating your mushrooms, OWW

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OneWithWood

The deer scat around here are always loose pellets.  I have never seen this conglomeration before.
I was thinking black bear cub. A couple of folks swear they saw one in the woods a while back.  We did have a fellow down the road busted for keeping wild animals including black bear and big cats.
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OneWithWood

 :D I dunno, Jeff. You have been keeping a pretty weird diet of late... :D :D :D
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pigman

I don't know what deer eat up north to have droppings like that, but down here deer droppings never look like that.
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beenthere

Here is a shot of one I think similar, not as "new" or fresh, or reconstituted with some rain.
Snap shot of a few minutes ago.  Some similarity.


 
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clww

Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on April 16, 2013, 06:42:44 PM
Don't show it to Si......he'll eat it thinking it's Muscadines.  :D
:D :D :D I remember that episode!

OWW- It's deer scat. Just like humans, what they expel doesn't always look the same.
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clww

That's funny. :D I can picture that happening. :)
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Fox or coyote.  Probably coyote. 
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Quote from: WDH on April 16, 2013, 08:56:42 PM
Fox or coyote.  Probably coyote.

No way. Its definitely whitetail deer. Looks typical of what we see all over michigan. Somebody go get Corley5 if you want an expert. He was a DNR poop counter for over a decade.
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I wasn't crack'n a joke before, it's an older buck, or pregnant doe, that is what there scat looks like very often.  It's deer just as Jeff said.  Definitely not fox or coyote  Bear cub scat is similar, but wrong proportion and consistency.
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Whitetail deer  :)  Former MDNR Pelleteer  ;) ;D
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Quote from: Jeff on April 16, 2013, 09:22:16 PM
Quote from: WDH on April 16, 2013, 08:56:42 PM
Fox or coyote.  Probably coyote.

No way. Its definitely whitetail deer. Looks typical of what we see all over michigan. Somebody go get Corley5 if you want an expert. He was a DNR poop counter for over a decade.
Uh...nope. Not touching that one. ;D
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OneWithWood

Thanks for all the replies.  In all the years I have been walking these woods I have never seen scat like this and I have seen a lot of scat from white tails, coyotes, coons, etc. 
Learn something new everyday.  I guess I was hoping it might be a small bear.  We have had reports of sightings of a black bear and a large cat in the area.
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All you want to know & more about the business end of deer.  ;D
   http://bowsite.com/bowsite/features/armchair_biologist/poop/
Round, individual droppings incate deer have been eating browse such as leaves, twigs, and acorns.

Lumpy droppings indicate softer to digest; grasses, clover, alfalfa, apples, and other forbs.
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Its always been obvious to me that excrement was the basis for a lot of DNR decisions.
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I heard those were smart pills.  ;D  Maybe more ways than one. ;)
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I've gotten word from a very trusted source, that our new director for the DNR is the right person for the job. Since I trust the source so much, I'll trust that we now have a good person in the position. Hopefully he can find a way to tread through everyone else's excremental trails, detours and roadblocks that can make such a position a bit of a stinker job so to speak.  :)
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Deer management in northern NB was a failure and they were told it would fail by the old guides, and they were right. And they were told why it wouldn't work and they were right about that to.
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Bibbyman

 

I had this scat tested by state wildlife biologist.  All they could tell me was that it was from omnivore.

I keep finding clues but no bear. Just last Sunday I spotted boulders turner over in a branch near the house and a standing dead tree with the sap wood ripped off about 4-6' off the ground.
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OneWithWood

I have seen what looks to be claw marks on trees before and there are a few logs that have been shredded in the same area.  Yesterday I came upon a few more piles of poop.  If it is a white tail deer it would be the biggest around by a long shot.  Could be a trophy rack for me this year!
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OneWithWood

Still no shrooms.  Better happen today because we have a major system moving in with drastically dropping temps.
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mesquite buckeye

Check under those little piles. I hear the heat promotes mushrooms. Also gives a distinct (dis stinked) flavor.

Bet there are lots of mushrooms in Washington with all the hot air out there. ;D
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SwampDonkey

I think a lot of times a bear will try and push over a rotten stub to get at the beetle grubs. Not tall snags so much but the crumbly short stubs. And they like to climb my post that holds the bat box, plus any oak I have that will sustain their weight. Oversized coons. :D :D

The feeder with the coons on the chicken coop thread, is just as fitting with bears at that feeder. They aren't as dexterous but they can figure stuff out. Don't think for one minute they can't figure stuff out. :D
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Looks like deer droppings to me.
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Quote from: Jeff on April 17, 2013, 01:32:05 PM
Its always been obvious to me that excrement was the basis for a lot of DNR decisions.

                           :D :D :D
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ryguy777

a sick indian, or sasquatch

SwampDonkey

When I was a younger lad about ready for college there was this book written on such matters, only not on the ID, but how to... in the woods.  I bet it's on Amazon. ;)
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Quote from: SwampDonkey on July 17, 2013, 04:02:24 AM
When I was a younger lad about ready for college there was this book written on such matters, only not on the ID, but how to... in the woods.  I bet it's on Amazon. ;)

Deuteronomy 23:12-13 is to the point but something a lot of people don't bother to do.Just common courtesy really.
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There is even a recipe for dung bread in there. :)
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Quote from: Paul_H on July 19, 2013, 11:28:31 PM
There is even a recipe for dung bread in there. :)

Reminds me of Si and the Muscadine.  :)
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Dung bread :o Perhaps an early attempt of recycling so to speak .

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sandhills

Yeah I think I'm on a diet now, at least as far as bread goes anyway.

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Looks like something a 12 year old constipated lad would drop.
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Could be a raccoon that's been stealing cherries (don't ask) but I'd go with deer.

Bear sign in wheat - Never seen bears hitting wheat here before harvest, they're all over this year. Doesn't bode well for the corn now that it's earing up. May bode well for a freezer full of bear and a new rug or two though


  

  

 
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Bear numbers are getting high around here. Can't be any hunters.
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