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Title: black gum uses
Post by: SAW MILLER on August 29, 2005, 05:55:59 PM
I have some black gum on my place.Whats it good for?
Title: Re: black gum uses
Post by: J_T on August 29, 2005, 07:27:42 PM
Cross ties ???
Title: Re: black gum uses
Post by: SAW MILLER on August 29, 2005, 07:45:16 PM
I only have a few trees,not enough to cut ties.I am considering cutting down a thick patch in my regrowth to allow the poplar and  maple to grow since the gum isn't good for much.I guess I could cut blocking to stack lumber on out of the few good size ones and let the rest lay. I sure don't want to split it for firewood.It's TOUGH. >:(
Title: Re: black gum uses
Post by: smwwoody on August 29, 2005, 07:52:43 PM
Ties and pallet cants is all we do with it
Title: Re: black gum uses
Post by: Tom on August 29, 2005, 07:53:13 PM
If you don't leave it to the elements, it makes good blocking and dunnage.  It also makes some pretty fair beams for rough inside use.  Things like barns and workshops is what I mean.  It hasn't got a grain pattern that is attractive enough for inside home use.  The wood will move as it dries but if kept dry remains stable and strong.

I've used it for concrete forms.   I used to cut a lot of it for a neighbor at 1/2" or 3/4" thick.  He used it for ornamental walkway forming because it was so easily bent.
Title: Re: black gum uses
Post by: Minnesota_boy on August 29, 2005, 08:13:46 PM
My Woodmizer makes a really fine splitter for the tough to split kinds of firewood too.  It will easily quarter a stick 16 feet or longer if you wish.  ;D  8) 8)
Title: Re: black gum uses
Post by: ellmoe on August 29, 2005, 08:21:01 PM
   We've sold blackgum to house movers. They like it because it is strong and dries out much lighter than oak. Recently, I had a customer ask me to make flooring out of some rough sawn black gum he had. Someone had told him it was ash.  :) I was surprised, but it made a beautiful floor, white with a grey heart. We now cut it and sell it for flooring.
Mark
Title: Re: black gum uses
Post by: woodbowl on August 29, 2005, 09:06:45 PM
Flooring...........??? I sure would like to see that! Where is Bushnell? We're in the panhandle. I am assuming that it is 1X4X how long? How much twist, bow ect. as compared to oak?
Title: Re: black gum uses
Post by: TN_man on August 30, 2005, 09:32:16 AM
Where are you guys finding buyers for blocking and dunnage? I also have some black gum that I need to do something with.
Title: Re: black gum uses
Post by: Tom on August 30, 2005, 03:38:46 PM
I don't sell it, I use it myself for small jobs.  Don't even keep much around. 

One mill, now defunct, was selling a lot of oak, blackgum, sweet gum and some other hardwoods to the Railroad.  They used it on crews whose job was to put derailed trains back on the track.  They used a lot of it.   The also used big wedges and paid extra good for them.

The shipyards use blocking and dunnage.

The trucking companies use dunnage and some will apply standing orders

The city looks for timbers and blocking.  They are usually low-bid and most comes from outside sources.

Land clearing companies use blocking when they haul equipment and level it on site.

Title: Re: black gum uses
Post by: Fla._Deadheader on August 30, 2005, 04:38:26 PM
SPEEEEEKING of gum, hey Dang what happened to the piece of gum you took from camp!!!!!!!!  :o :o   You said it would become a table but ain't never seen no pitchers. ;D ;D
Title: Re: black gum uses
Post by: ellmoe on August 31, 2005, 12:54:07 PM
Woodbowl,
   We are right off of I-75 about halfway between Tampa and Ocala. The blackgum we have worked has been easier to process and more stable than the oak we cut. It's a minor species, but there are always people that want something different.

Mark
Title: Re: black gum uses
Post by: woodbowl on August 31, 2005, 09:57:00 PM
That sounds different alright! More stable than oak?  smiley_headscratchHmmmmmmmmmm .....................most of the black gum around here will tie itself in a knot before it gets off the mill. I may try it again.  ???What thickness, width, and length do you cut?............If you had to say it looked sorta like something else, what would that something else sorta look like? ::)