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Title: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: Bindian on July 27, 2021, 02:22:46 AM
I got tired of our daily nuisance rains, that kept me from sawing for weeks on end, so I put a tarp over the mill.   It is a 28x39 foot tarp. 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/27364/Sawmill_Tarped.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1627366813)
 I wanted narrower, like 20 feet, but it was all Harbor Freight had in stock.   I used a 1/2 rope over the mill between two huge trees.  I used the Mahindra's loader to tighten the 1/2 inch rope, while I was on the telehandler platform screwing a hand formed "tunnel clamp" over the rope into the tree, then I tied the rope to itself.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/27364/Sawmill_Tarped_2.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1627366869)
 

I had my friend run the telehandler while I went up into the surrounding trees and tied off lines.  One side of the tarp is attached to the fence top board.  I added some permanent support boards on the sawdust chute side, over the sawhead near the tongue, and 2x2s over the log loading side.

I still had some sag at full sawhead height, so I added 2 movable support boards. 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/27364/Sawmill_Tarped_Movable_Support_Pole.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1627366946)
 They will keep the rain from puddling on top and keep the tarp off the sawhead at full height.  They will be moved around for log loading and first cuts on 36 inch logs. 

As the first forecast rain is later today, we will see.  It will be a work in progress to tweet it to stay up and shed rain correctly.  Any bets how long it will last?
hugs,  Brandi
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: YellowHammer on July 27, 2021, 05:27:04 AM
Looks good.  
I bet it won’t rain anymore now that you’ve put a rain tarp up. :D :D
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: kelLOGg on July 27, 2021, 05:56:49 AM
I see a shed in your future.
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: HemlockKing on July 27, 2021, 06:43:50 AM
I see a shed in your future.
Very soon. Next wind storm the neighbours will have a nice new tarp!
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: doc henderson on July 27, 2021, 07:16:56 AM
should repel some of the sun you get as well.  
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: VB-Milling on July 27, 2021, 07:34:42 AM
Hopefully that tree canopy provides some wind and sun buffering and no branches come down on it.  I've had those same HF tarps and a small tear turns into a giant hole awful quick!

It would be nice if it lasted a few weeks.
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: Magicman on July 27, 2021, 08:09:46 AM
Looks good.  Your next "tarp" will be 6X6's, 2X6's, 2X4's and galvalume.  ;D
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: taylorsmissbeehaven on July 27, 2021, 08:10:48 AM
I did the same sorta thing a few years ago. I went through a few tarps but it did the intended job and bought me some time to figure out the next move. Happy sawing, dry and in the shade!! Brian
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: farmfromkansas on July 27, 2021, 08:48:44 AM
You could send some of that nuisance rain north to Kansas!
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: Nebraska on July 27, 2021, 09:37:06 AM
Reminds me of Tom's tarp in the woods.
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: stavebuyer on July 27, 2021, 03:50:47 PM
I did something similar over the Meadows portable circle mill I had set up on an old ridgetop farm grown up in cedars. It more or less held up the 6 months we had the mill set up there as we logged and sawed it all on site.


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/25189/Meadows_cedar_mill~0.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1619286954)
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Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain k9
Post by: barbender on July 27, 2021, 10:31:44 PM
Keeping the sun off of you will be just as valuable as shedding rain👍
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: doc henderson on July 28, 2021, 11:28:34 AM
I have a buddy who does leatherwork as a hobby/small business.  He has custom sized tarps for us and reinforced with rope and grommets.  @Bindian (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=17364) what ever works.  we reduced tarp size to fit our tents in scouts so there was no tarp extending outside the tent.  looks better and does not flow shed rainwater under the tent floor.
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: Bindian on July 28, 2021, 02:22:30 PM
I see a shed in your future.
I have a 40x60 or 80 foot shed planned.  Have all the 6x6 posts and 20 foot full size 2x12 roof joists cut.  Just need to finished some sawmill orders and some other projects before starting on the shed.  I already got concrete and roof truss quotes.  Just a matter of time.  I have a shed thread started on here, discussing roof loading and such.
hugs,  Brandi
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: Bindian on July 28, 2021, 02:24:26 PM
I see a shed in your future.
Very soon. Next wind storm the neighbours will have a nice new tarp!
Nope.  Too many trees here.  Either it will wrap around the sawmill or a tree, but it has to detach from the fence first.  It is secured to the fence top board with screws.
      hugs, Brandi
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: Bindian on July 28, 2021, 02:31:35 PM
should repel some of the sun you get as well.  
Doc,
        Yes, and a tad bit darker underneath it.  Sawing last evening had me needing my headlight sooner to see the tension gauge good.  Got the pneumatic tires installed on the fan.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/27364/Fan_Pneumatic_Tires.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1627496989)
   Maybe I can mount a light over the fan?  First tarped log.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/27364/Sawmill_First_Tarped_Log.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1627497059)
 
hugs,  Brandi
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: Bindian on July 28, 2021, 02:33:40 PM
Looks good.  Your next "tarp" will be 6X6's, 2X6's, 2X4's and galvalume.  ;D
How true, Lynn.  I am itching to get started on the "permanent" shed.
hugs,  Brandi
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: Bindian on July 28, 2021, 02:36:28 PM
I did something similar over the Meadows portable circle mill I had set up on an old ridgetop farm grown up in cedars. It more or less held up the 6 months we had the mill set up there as we logged and sawed it all on site.


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/25189/Meadows_cedar_mill~0.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1619286954)
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Six months is a good goal to shoot for.  Hopefully will be roofing galvalume by then.
hugs,  Brandi
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain k9
Post by: Bindian on July 28, 2021, 02:39:56 PM
Keeping the sun off of you will be just as valuable as shedding rain👍
With my tree canopy, sun only hits the mill around 1 to 2:30 each afternoon.  Shade all the rest of the day.  But the stacking pallet is still in the sun alot.
hugs,  Brandi
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: Bindian on July 28, 2021, 03:22:23 PM
Here is a shot from my back deck of the tarped mill.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/27364/Sawmill_Tarp_From_Deck.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1627500120)
 
hugs,  Brandi
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: Bindian on July 28, 2021, 03:25:49 PM
If anyone is interested.................here's the link to my shed thread.....https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=112921.0
hugs,  Brandi
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: doc henderson on July 28, 2021, 03:50:14 PM
well at the risk of sounding (not intended) off color you "got some nice equipment" there @Bindian (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=17364)  :)  It is only temporary, but curious if the side that flaps down a bit, is to the south?  can it be made to be adjustable and raised up at times.  just thinking out loud. cheers!  doc.
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: Bindian on July 28, 2021, 11:37:13 PM
well at the risk of sounding (not intended) off color you "got some nice equipment" there @Bindian (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=17364)  :)  It is only temporary, but curious if the side that flaps down a bit, is to the south?  can it be made to be adjustable and raised up at times.  just thinking out loud. cheers!  doc.
Off color is right Doc.  Too much equipment that isn't RED.  The side "that flaps down a bit" is secured to the fence for now.  I could secure it via ropes to trees on the other side of the fence for more late afternoon light.
       hugs,  Brandi
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: maple flats on July 29, 2021, 06:56:52 AM
That's a grand version of how I'm setting up to assemble my mill, then saw the lumber to build a permanent home. I have a 10x20 tent (roof and separate sides if needed). In that, once assembled, I'll saw and build the saw shed next to the tent. For light I have a string of 12V LED lights.
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: Bindian on July 29, 2021, 12:17:57 PM
That's a grand version of how I'm setting up to assemble my mill, then saw the lumber to build a permanent home. I have a 10x20 tent (roof and separate sides if needed). In that, once assembled, I'll saw and build the saw shed next to the tent. For light I have a string of 12V LED lights.
Thanks.  I will check look into a string of LED lights.
hugs,   Brandi
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: Bindian on August 02, 2021, 12:36:39 AM
First log milled under the tarp.  
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/27364/Sawmill_First_Tarped_Log~0.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1627878934)
 As you can see, it's a little dim under the big top.
hugs,  Brandi
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: Magicman on August 02, 2021, 07:48:28 AM
Lookin' Good Brandi.....  thumbs-up
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: doc henderson on August 02, 2021, 09:57:34 AM
maybe some up lighting to reflect off the tarps, and down lighting under the mill to pimp it up a bit.  need an amp and subwoofer for tunes on the sawmill! :o :o :o   8) 8) 8)   :D :D :D
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: Bindian on August 02, 2021, 10:02:13 AM
Lookin' Good Brandi.....  thumbs-up
Thanks Lynn!
        hugs,  Brandi
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: Bindian on August 02, 2021, 10:18:50 AM
maybe some np lighting to reflect off the tarps, and down lighting under the mill to pimp it up a bit.  need an amp and subwoofer for tunes on the sawmill! :o :o :o   8) 8) 8)   :D :D :D
Doc,
   I got an old broken down CD player/boom box blaring Country music from the barn.  But the lights are developing as a must have.
My friend gave me a radio for my birthday.  It mounts under the canopy of the tractor.  Just gotta install it.
                           hugs,  Brandi
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: tmarch on August 03, 2021, 01:39:51 PM
Lights, radio, next it will be dancing under the BIG top. 8)
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: WV Sawmiller on August 03, 2021, 01:46:06 PM
   Since its a woodyard/sawmill I started to comment on what kind of dancing to expect but I am trying to be a good boy so I bited my tongue. :D

  I guess if Brandi provides little whisk brooms to strap on everyone's feet and they go line dancing she can at least get the sawdust swept out of the barn every Saturday night. ;)
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: Bindian on August 03, 2021, 02:34:02 PM
  Since its a woodyard/sawmill I started to comment on what kind of dancing to expect but I am trying to be a good boy so I bited my tongue. :D

  I guess if Brandi provides little whisk brooms to strap on everyone's feet and they go line dancing she can at least get the sawdust swept out of the barn every Saturday night. ;)
Good thing you bit your tongue.  You seem to do that alot.  Actually, a little sawdust on the floor makes better two steppin' and polkas.  Wooden floor dance halls use a little cornmill on the floor.
hugs,  Brandi
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: WV Sawmiller on August 03, 2021, 05:21:07 PM
   I knew the steakhouses used to have your throw the peanut hulls on the floor and I heard it was actually good for the wood but being blessed with 2 left feet and married to a shy country girl who was the daughter of the Baptist preacher, I never got into the dance scene. I don't know about the cornmeal - I guess as long as they had extra after frying the catfish and making the hushpuppies and storing your catalpa worms in it if there was any left over you could put it on the dance floor. 

   Question: What kind of dancing do politicians do?
   Answer: Poll dancing.

    Stay safe, stay cool in the shade.
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: Bindian on August 03, 2021, 05:35:05 PM
  I knew the steakhouses used to have your throw the peanut hulls on the floor and I heard it was actually good for the wood but being blessed with 2 left feet and married to a shy country girl who was the daughter of the Baptist preacher, I never got into the dance scene. I don't know about the cornmeal - I guess as long as they had extra after frying the catfish and making the hushpuppies and storing your catalpa worms in it if there was any left over you could put it on the dance floor.

   Question: What kind of dancing do politicians do?
   Answer: Poll dancing.

    Stay safe, stay cool in the shade.
Texas Roadhouse is the only place I have been to that lets you throw peanut hulls on the floor, but that is after you eat the peanuts.  But, it is so crowded, it's standing room outside waiting to get in.  I like to get there about 4 in the afternoon and be gone when the crowds start arriving.
hugs,  Brandi
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: doc henderson on August 03, 2021, 06:58:53 PM
some of the farm stores here do it on occasion, to make you shop there.  offer peanuts and let the hulls be thrown on the floor.  i do not like to do that, and prefer peanuts already hulled as i am the lazy type, and want an handful at a time in my mouth.  used to have a peanut barrel for boy scouts stuff, but one kid with an allergy and a mom who thought it was every ones responsibility to watch over him was enough to stop that tradition.  only reaction i ever saw was an anxiety one to eating something with peanuts, as he thought he had to go to the ed and get an epi pen shot.  he sat in the car, and never had any throat welling or difficulty breathing.  just anxiety.   :o
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: WV Sawmiller on August 03, 2021, 08:06:53 PM
  Amazing how we shift from sawing or whatever to food ain't it. :D

 In Saudi street vendors cooked raw peanuts in salt in a wok over a ventilated gallon can as a brazier with charcoal. They took them out with a slotted spoon and shook most of the salt off to continue to use. They sold them in a rolled up computer print-out page for 1 riyal/tube (I guess that was about a cup of peanuts for 27 cents). They tasted like our salted Planter's Peanuts. I would visit the souks and buy raw peanuts in the shell and roast/parch them. I was paying 5 SR/kg or $1.30 for 2.2 lbs. One day I noticed they had shelled peanuts for sale also so I asked how much they were. The vendor told me "Five riyals per kilo." Well my Mama didn't raise no fool! If I could buy shelled ones for the same price as in the hull that was what I was going to do and did till I left there. I never understood the economics of their pricing but I was just a dumb infidel and I was not going to argue with them.
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: tmarch on August 03, 2021, 09:57:16 PM
Round here it was sawdust on the floor and maybe a cuspidor or two,but most missed that and it just added a little color to the sawdust. :D
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: Southside on August 03, 2021, 11:02:40 PM
Here if you want peanuts then you need to mosy over to the hay pile and dig them out of a bale BEFORE the cows get to it, they will fight you for them.  Raw, dried on the vine, in the bale - best eating peanuts you will ever have and I am not joking.  Even the red skins are edible that way. But - that's probably more work than @doc henderson (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=41041) would like.   :D
Title: Re: Tarped Out of the Rain
Post by: WDH on August 04, 2021, 09:48:29 AM
I have vivid memories as a youth of making a hunting blind out of peanut vines from the field after harvest to hunt doves, sitting there in the hot sun eating those dried peanuts off the vines that the harvester missed. I agree; they are so tasty.