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Is This Your Homemade Stamp?
« on: March 31, 2021, 06:56:56 PM »
 

 
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Re: Is This Your Homemade Stamp?
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2021, 07:22:29 PM »
I think I can do that if I saw it and sell it to the end user and only No. 2 and If the local building inspector approves my lumber for that project. But there would be no reason to stamp it but I have to submit paperwork.

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Re: Is This Your Homemade Stamp?
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2021, 07:38:09 PM »
So what's not a good way? Did they forget to pay someone a fee for allowing them to stamp there own lumber.

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Re: Is This Your Homemade Stamp?
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2021, 08:24:41 PM »
From what I understand there are very few certified lumber inspectors so a fake one would not be cool.

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Re: Is This Your Homemade Stamp?
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2021, 08:49:55 PM »
What's the rest of the story? Asking for a friend. 
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Re: Is This Your Homemade Stamp?
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2021, 08:53:12 PM »
I don't know much about these but that isn't a legit stamp. It doesn't identify the mill and it doesn't have a certification number. It just looks like a rubber stamp. SO what is the back story?
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2021, 08:59:09 PM »
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Re: Is This Your Homemade Stamp?
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2021, 09:14:58 PM »
I don't know much about these but that isn't a legit stamp. It doesn't identify the mill and it doesn't have a certification number. It just looks like a rubber stamp. SO what is the back story?
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Re: Is This Your Homemade Stamp?
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2021, 09:19:00 PM »
The sky high prices for framing lumber is incentifying some risky dodgy behaviour.
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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2021, 10:11:24 PM »
Half wonder if it's not a Chinese import thing. The new Prada. 
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2021, 10:24:04 PM »
Cmon.. People chop the cats off parked cars, have died cutting live copper lines, park over the gas pumps and fill totes in tinted cargo vans.  What so sacred about lumber?  Of course someone is gonna find an easier way to get the cheese.
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« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2021, 12:35:56 AM »
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Re: Is This Your Homemade Stamp?
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2021, 09:41:47 AM »
I don't know much about these but that isn't a legit stamp. It doesn't identify the mill and it doesn't have a certification number. It just looks like a rubber stamp. SO what is the back story?
I agree but at this point, without false mill and certificates it seems to me that it's about equal to a lumber crayon identifying that stick or pile.

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« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2021, 03:41:43 PM »
And, we all know that a licensed lumber grader inspected every 2x4 on that rail flatcar before he wrapped them.

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Re: Is This Your Homemade Stamp?
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2021, 06:38:51 PM »
So if I cut up someone's steer and mark the package as t-bone steak, hamburger etc. Does this make it wrong? Now if I marked it USDA choice or prime than I could see a problem. Regarding the lumber stamp it would really depend how the lumber was being marketed. Was the stamp an attempt to deceive or just labeling the product.

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« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2021, 07:53:20 PM »
Half wonder if it's not a Chinese import thing. The new Prada.
I was thinking "import" as well, not specifically from China, and NZ has different grading and stamping, but with lumber prices in the US so high at the moment there must be an incentive to import some wood from anyplace it can be procured?  Could be radiata pine from Chile, and I have no idea how their grading works.
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Re: Is This Your Homemade Stamp?
« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2021, 09:22:48 PM »
Unless its from a commercial mill, not every stick is going to be marked with HLGA markings.  If i ger a grader to grade my lumber he will mark a few here and there, how I choose to keep track of my lumber if pretty much up to me.  I have never seen a building inspector inspect very piece of lumber on a job site.  A grading approval for the lot will suffice.
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Re: Is This Your Homemade Stamp?
« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2021, 11:00:31 PM »



SSMU is Small Saw Millers United

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Re: Is This Your Homemade Stamp?
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2021, 03:45:20 AM »
You can get a course for small saw millers up here to get your stamp. But you have to saw on your property in order the grade. Can't go off site and still be able to grade stamp it. And the grade stamp will have MLB on the stamp, the regional grading authority, plus your mill number and so on.
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Re: Is This Your Homemade Stamp?
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2021, 07:52:53 AM »
Any stationary sawmill can do that, there is a hefty fee for oversight,"pop inspections" to make sure that you have looked at every stud on that traincar load. I've had the training but decided it is too expensive for me to stamp.

This email came from the national overseeing body and went out to everyone on their email list. If you do represent a grade without one of their agency's oversight, which was done here, that is not legal and is subject to enforcement.

Some states do have exceptions, check that out before representing wood for sale as having a grade. There are usually some hoops or training to jump through. You can also contact the nearest grading authority and have them grade on a per job basis. Some inspectors will accept a letter from an engineer as well. With the exception of Canada, imported lumber comes in under the oversight of one of the US or Canadian authorized grading agencies, everything I've seen came in under WWPA's stamp.

I have had bootleg stamped lumber turn up on a job, I don't go looking for stamps any more than the average inspector does. By the time I noticed it most of the wood was already in the frame. I looked it over and it was on grade or better so I chose to keep my mouth shut, order elsewhere and hope for the best. We passed but someone got busted. As an unwilling accomplice the builder pointed to the supplier who was sitting on a warehouse full of the now unsaleable lumber. The inspector has a great deal of latitude including "take that down and try again". I do not know how far upstream that went but I wouldn't expect folks to cover your rear if things do not go well.
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