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Re: Started assembling a new to me lane sawmill
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2021, 09:27:23 PM »
I fed pretty slow but I知 busting getting a hang of the friction drive. By stahl the blade do you mean that it actually stops rotating?
I mean don't overfeed and have the saw come to a sudden stop in the log. Many things could cause this like running out of fuel or more likely sawing into a broken log and get 'shimmed'. It's no different than a car or airplane crash, it's always that sudden stop.

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Re: Started assembling a new to me lane sawmill
« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2021, 09:28:12 PM »
 

 
Swapped a new set of bits onto the wheel. And produced quite a bit of straight lumber.   Cut/Built a operators platform. 
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« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2021, 10:18:49 PM »
The wheel? You must mean the saw. Are you using the notches to saw?

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Re: Started assembling a new to me lane sawmill
« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2021, 05:26:17 AM »
The wheel? You must mean the saw. Are you using the notches to saw?
Yes I do mean the saw! ;D I knew wheel was the wrong term I just couldn稚 remember.    What do you mean by notches? Sorry I知 still at the bottom of the learning curve. Thanks for the help so far! 
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« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2021, 09:26:37 AM »
When you have a flat side [of the log that is now a cant] up against the bunks, dogged and ready to saw off a slab, how do you know where to set? Or said another way how will you know the thickness of the last board? You would have to do the math in your head or on a cheat sheet. Every piece to be sawn has a 1/4" kerf except the last board or whatever.  On a Lane you have the famous Lane setworks with the notches and they tell you where to set. Remember to add 5 when needed.  They go : 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 ["]  If you drop the pawl in 6 that will get you to 6" by sawing off 1" boards and so on.If you need to get 8" you use 3 because 3 and 5 is 8 .  Play with it and we can talk again.

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« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2021, 01:14:34 PM »
V. I probably should have said this; When you are 1 click up from a notch and all the way forward you must be 1" from the saw. [2 clicks=2", 3 clicks=3", 4 clicks=4" ,5 clicks= 5" and 6 clicks= 6" and then it starts over again. You pull all the way forward to start, that sets it up to use the clicks and notches. This is for the 1/4" pawl, the other 2 are pinned up as they are for 1/16" and 1/8" kerf and use different pin holes and should be stamped.  If the setworks is not put together right non of this will work.  Once you learn this you will not be able to saw lumber without it.

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Re: Started assembling a new to me lane sawmill
« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2021, 08:04:00 PM »
 

 
I played with it all day today.  Cut a bunch of mostly the right size lumber. 2x12s-2x4s.  A bunch came off thick or thin due to my math  ???   

M. I didn稚 know about the notches! I値l play around next weekend and figure it out. Thank you. 

Also any reason I shouldn稚 make a metal cover to go over the friction belt / carriage pulley area? Seems like a lot of unnecessary saw dust shooting on it. 
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« Reply #27 on: June 06, 2021, 08:44:40 PM »
V. I am so glad you are sawing, So many who start a circle mill give up. It does not always go easy with your first mill. The thing to do maybe to box everything on top in and have hinged doors and a way to lift the whole thing off when needed. Another project. I am also glad you are telling me you messed up some sets because we are going to fix that by learning the notches. You will be glad you have a Lane. Doug

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Re: Started assembling a new to me lane sawmill
« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2021, 05:55:14 AM »
Doug. I spent the dropping trees and loading them onto the mill. So I figured out a full stroke with the set handle cuts a 1 board so the setworks move 1-1/4 per full stroke. So after making an initial cut I would pull a 吐ull stroke then count the clicks back and pull forward an additional inch to cut 2x lumber. Is this the right method? I was using the scale still to double check. The majority of my boards came off correct tho.  I meant to snag a picture of the setworks. Maybe next weekend  ;)
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« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2021, 06:26:40 AM »
I am glad all is sawing well for you!!
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« Reply #30 on: June 14, 2021, 09:25:31 AM »
Doug. I spent the dropping trees and loading them onto the mill. So I figured out a full stroke with the set handle cuts a 1 board so the setworks move 1-1/4 per full stroke. So after making an initial cut I would pull a 吐ull stroke then count the clicks back and pull forward an additional inch to cut 2x lumber. Is this the right method? I was using the scale still to double check. The majority of my boards came off correct tho.  I meant to snag a picture of the setworks. Maybe next weekend 
You are learning faster than I did. You shoot for the numbers that you know and add or subtract clicks to get what you need. It is all based on the 1 " pull to stop [5 clicks, 1 for the kerf] Example: you need to get to 12", go to notch, which would wind up 12 1/4", and go back 1 click to get 12". If you stayed in the notch and wanted 12 1/2 you would come forward 1 click. When I was learning I would always forget the last board did not need a kerf.

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« Reply #31 on: June 14, 2021, 11:56:12 AM »
On our mill which I've only run a couple of times but off beared plenty. always run by the notches and use numbered board as a guide sometimes the smaller notches (I think there 1/16)  will be halfway in or whatever just set back half a click to get where you need to be and go from there. Handle just needs a little bump one way or the other just something to keep in mind. They are speedy so don't gig back so fast as to run part of the carriage off the tracks hahhah happened to me.

Once you get a handle on it they are the best set works out there imo. Very fast and accurate.

That's the extent of my knowledge on them which isn't much but congrats on the new mill!

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« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2021, 12:02:08 PM »
Also on ours you can change I think it's a pin to make the full pull a few different sizes. Ours is always left at 1 1/4 like you have setup now.

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Re: Started assembling a new to me lane sawmill
« Reply #33 on: June 14, 2021, 12:32:03 PM »
What are the center pieces of each dog for? They in/out with the handle one
the back and lock in to notches.  Is it for similar to a toe board on a band mill? Used for holding the log square? 
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« Reply #34 on: June 14, 2021, 01:14:56 PM »
What are the center pieces of each dog for? They in/out with the handle one
the back and lock in to notches.  Is it for similar to a toe board on a band mill? Used for holding the log square?
I think you have green mt. dogs, that is the modern ones. [You should see the original ones]  So you might have a dog point with notches in it to hold it when pulled out like for a log.  Keep your eyes open for screw dogs or even a sawyers favorite.  Doug

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« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2021, 05:22:14 AM »
I do have pointed L shaped notched dogs, Doug! I am missing one tho. When I bought the mill the dog assembly was broken and only was missing the L shaped dog part. I brazed the cast pieces back together and am waiting for my plasma table to get repaired before I cut a new dog. Also need to figure out something for the sawdust.  It痴 starting to mound up in a hurry. 
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Re: Started assembling a new to me lane sawmill
« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2021, 05:24:01 AM »


Everything on the mill seems to be running right except the operator ???  helpful criticisms are welcome!   Thanks for all the help so far fellas! 
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« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2021, 09:02:35 PM »
 

 
Everything is running pretty smooth.  Just got a saw dust conveyor from a pallet company at auction.  Going to need it soon. Saw dust is piling up in a hurry. Along with a mountain of slab wood.  Probably cut 25 logs so far. Still getting used to the set works and cutting consistent size lumber. 
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Re: Started assembling a new to me lane sawmill
« Reply #38 on: July 05, 2021, 04:20:53 PM »
congratulations on your progress so far. After watching the video of you sawing,I am wondering how the hydraulic pump is mounted on the end of the mandrel? It seemed to have an excessive amount of movement which could be a problem over time. What does the hydraulics power?

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« Reply #39 on: July 05, 2021, 07:10:31 PM »
That pump must be for the live log deck and turner if there is one. It is common to shaft mount a hyd. pump or motor ridged to the shaft and chained if it only goes on way or 'wrenched' if it is reversable. This way there is no alienment issues.  That mill needs a screw dog or a sawyers favorite.  When the owner gets used to it and with the logs seen it will go much faster, saw alot of lumber and last a long time.


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