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Is there a better way to sticker?
« on: July 21, 2021, 11:26:28 PM »
I've been stickering by hand in my small operation even with two people it get almost too much especially when you get chest high. This is also my biggest bottleneck I'm to the point of getting a 500lbs bridge crane that will cover a 20'x50' area and I can sort and lift each layer at once and walk it to the correct stack. Looking for ideas to better automate this process for under the $10k range.

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Re: Is there a better way to sticker?
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2021, 03:18:56 AM »
good morning.  I remove the stack of wood from the mill with forks, and can then sticker off the forks.  when stacked and banded, then move it to the location I want.  if you make pallets that line up then you can stack until you are done with the height, then start a new pallet and stack it on top.  that is if you have forks on a bucket on one of you tractors.  
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Re: Is there a better way to sticker?
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2021, 07:16:36 AM »
 

 
I stack a couple of 2X4's or a 4X4 between each lift.  I have found that a skylift/telehandler is the best style loader for handling and stacking lumber.
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Re: Is there a better way to sticker?
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2021, 08:24:25 AM »
Have you made a sticker box? A box with the right end open and ribs on the back to line stickers up. 4x4s on bottom to lift stack out, the left end closed to hold boards against.

I went with pallets as I am slow/own-use type mill. I move the pallets about double stack.

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Re: Is there a better way to sticker?
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2021, 08:50:02 AM »
IMHO if I had 10k to throw at this issue Id install a long greenchain rather than a bridge crane. Send everything down the chain and slide directly into pack where required, jogging the chain back and forth to avoid walking.

You could probably pick up a second hand semiauto racking machine for that out the change... second hand greenchain goes cheap at every mill closure.

It's just one of those boring monotonous essential tasks in the production of lumber. And it is essential... and attention to detail here does pay because the best sawing job in the world can be undone by a halfhearted stickering job. Get it right and your timber lays flat in the stack and flat when dry and you can dry bowed boards straight. Take shortcuts and you can dry a bend in timber that came off the saw flat.

I don't like pallets, I strap dunnage to my packs instead. It's all the same thing.
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Re: Is there a better way to sticker?
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2021, 08:54:41 AM »
Pallets and forklifts.  Lots and lots of pallets (or dunnage).  The lumber come off the mill, goes on a pallet, and never comes off.  Here's a picture from a mill down the road.  



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Re: Is there a better way to sticker?
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2021, 08:58:53 AM »
 
thanks for the replies I have a system similar to what you suggested. I have 2 bobcats and a moffett forklift that I couldn't get by without what I'm looking for is to step up my game to something more ergonomic than sliding boards off forks you are still having to pick up each board one at a time. 
 

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Re: Is there a better way to sticker?
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2021, 12:21:41 PM »
Any suggestions on how I might utilize my two 12' bed boom trucks (one with extendo boom) in the milling operation I am setting up. I do not have a forklift. If I slide lumber right off the mill onto a boom truck stickering as I go, I could then move/lift/place the stack anywhere. Anyway, that's the plan for now unless somebody has a better idea. Does anyone out there have an idea as to what sort of contraption I could use to connect the single lift cable to a stickered stack of lumber?

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Re: Is there a better way to sticker?
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2021, 03:51:26 PM »
the roofing industry has trucks to deliver pallets of shingle and make an off set fork rig that can be lifted at a single point.  I will try to search but do not know what they are called.  @customsawyer used the drag back and conveyor/rollers and the boards off the mill fall into place with more scootin than lifting.  still had one guy offloading/stickering.
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Re: Is there a better way to sticker?
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2021, 04:00:10 PM »
Drywall/wallboard loaders act the same way.

Wonder if you can just buy the articulating fork attachment at the very end  8)

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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2021, 04:24:09 PM »


no price on this one.  another company whos name I will not mention had similar for about 2 to 3 K.  Looks like you could make one custom for your crane and pallet style.  Need to check you lift limit a length to see if you crane/trolley system could handle it plus the weight of the wood.
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Re: Is there a better way to sticker?
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2021, 08:04:06 PM »
I wouldn't make my stacks that high.  I would start my stacks on a table so the first row is about knee high, then stackthe pile about 3 feet higher.  Then move the stack for storage/drying and stack them 2 or 3 stacks tall with 4x4's between each stacks to make room for forks.  That way you never have too bend over too far or reach too high while stacking.

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Re: Is there a better way to sticker?
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2021, 09:35:34 PM »
Those telestick forks have their place but are an exercise in frustration on anything but flat and level. If you don't need to boom a forklift is much more fun.
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« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2021, 12:43:31 AM »
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no price on this one.  another company whos name I will not mention had similar for about 2 to 3 K.  Looks like you could make one custom for your crane and pallet style.  Need to check you lift limit a length to see if you crane/trolley system could handle it plus the weight of the wood.
Over here, you can have a brand new one for 750Ä About 890 dolls. 
They are indeed an exercice in frustration, using those on your own. A plus would be to have a  "rotator" 
Teleboom, telescopic forklift, telehandlers or whatever you call them, are great. But you need the space to move. 
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« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2021, 12:53:44 AM »
All jokes asside. 

May be an inclined surface on forks of a forklift, onto which you could load at the mill, with boards. Turn the forklift, then raise the inclined surface just above the last stickers you have laid, and push the boards on top of those. May be that could be done just with the forks of a telescopic forklift. Time consuming i would think. 

See the TS manufacturing video above. They slide the board onto the stickers.  May be there is a way to do that on the cheap. 
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