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spalted maple or ambrosia ???
« on: April 02, 2015, 05:40:44 PM »
would it be o k to use lumber shed 1x2 for stickers?  I wont have kiln up for another couple weeks then I will dry some stickers but I need something now.   Do you do anything different because of spalting or air dry like anything other wood?   New to trying to kiln dry wood so I thought stickers would be a good trial run. :)
 

 
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Re: spalted maple ???
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2015, 09:27:03 PM »
From where Im standing that looks like Ambrosia Maple.
Im not sure but I would think It would dry as fast as pine.

Some one else may be able to help more.
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Re: spalted maple ???
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2015, 09:35:34 PM »
Maple must have dry stickers or you will certainly get sticker stain and ruin the wood.  Also, maple must have very good airflow, and in the very first two critical weeks of air drying, at a minimum, I would run a fan blowing on the stack to make sure that the air is moving well.  If not, you run a high risk of ugly gray stain in the maple. 

As long as the stickers are air dried, you will be OK.  Not sure what you mean by lumber shed 1x2 stickers.  2" is too wide for a sticker on maple.  You would be better off at 3/4" x 3/4" or 1" x 1" stickers to minimize sticker stain and the dreaded gray stain.  In hot and humid Georgia, without supplemental fans on maple in the very early drying stages of air drying, freshly sawn maple lumber will gray stain in just a couple of days.  That will severely lower the value.  Maple customers want the maple to be white and bright.  Blotches of gray stain make it very ugly. 
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Re: spalted maple ???
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2015, 09:46:00 PM »
the lumber shed  1x2s are spruce  probably would measure 3/4x1 1/2 so I could rip them on table saw thats just all I could think of that would be dry right now.   thanks for the help smiley_thumbsup
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Re: spalted maple or ambrosia ?
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2015, 07:17:31 AM »
Tree Dan you may be right . I went back and looked for worm holes and saw some in the bark on the two live edge slabs but none in the wood itself. Are the wormholes always visible? ???
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Re: spalted maple or ambrosia ???
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2015, 11:03:24 AM »
The coloration of the maple in the picture is caused by the Columbian Timber beetle.  It occurs in the tree.
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« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2015, 09:45:51 PM »
Mine are all most ready to cut. :D :D :D
 

 
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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2015, 10:42:27 PM »
peter whats that white stuff around the logs?  :) was 80 degrees here day before yesterday.   be sure and put up some pics when you saw them.
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« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2015, 11:17:22 PM »
Tree Dan you may be right . I went back and looked for worm holes and saw some in the bark on the two live edge slabs but none in the wood itself. Are the wormholes always visible? ???

Yes you will see the worm holes.
 Ambrosia Maple is not a specific species of Maple, the markings and streeks are caused from a reaction of fungus on the wood walls (Soft Maple) of the tunnels that the beetles creates, and this is what they eat.
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Re: spalted maple or ambrosia ???
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2015, 07:24:45 AM »
In order for the streaks to extend up and down the tree, the tree must be alive.  Once cut, the streaks cannot grow.  Note that the streaks will almost always have one, two or three holes at the top...this is characteristic of the Columbian Timer Beetle.  The CTB makes the tree form heartwood (called pathological heartwood) in an attempt to limit or enclose the damage from the insect...then, there can also be a white rot fungus that comes into the wood and makes the dark lines.  Because of this damage and heartwood, it is common to find some small cracks after drying.
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