Saw Shortage!

Outofbounds · July 11, 2021, 04:44:35 AM

Not having any luck with purchase of a new 395xp.
Ordered in May, delivery dates keep being pushed.
Latest heard was late September at best.
New off grib cabin build requiring some on site milling as to remote for the WM.

Any body hearing any different on pending delivery dates on back orders?

Spike60 · July 11, 2021, 05:21:53 AM

Don't pay any attention to the dates cause they bounce all over the place as you've already seen. I've got 2 orders in the system for 395's; one going back to January. There are some limited imports arriving to start filling backorders, so I'm hoping that order will ship. The key point there is that orderes are filled by dates; first in first out. And my Jan order gives you an idea of how far back they have to go once product starts arriving. So, if your saw was ordered in May, there are 4 months worth of orders that have to get shipped first.

All depends on how many saws arrive vs the amount on backorder. Could have 500 saws hitting the warehouse, but there might be 800 on iorder.

Al_Smith · July 11, 2021, 06:44:04 AM

There are shortages of just about every thing .Would you believe a shortage of paint .I buy most of my paint through Sherwin-Williams .They tell me because a resin plant in Texas froze up because the Texans ran out of electrical power some how that is the cause of it .Who would have known that ?They just can't get the paint to be able to sell it . I get a discount and from what I see the prices have not so far escalated like they normally do-----yet

HemlockKing · July 11, 2021, 07:01:26 AM

I was looking at ms661 few weeks ago they were back order everywhere for a month or more. Oddly enough I walked in the store to make my order and they had a 500i sitting right on the shelf that they just got in literally earlier that day. I looked at it and walked out the door with it because I didn't wanna wait on the back order. Even though I wanted the ms661 instead I'm really happy with my purchase.

Tom King · July 11, 2021, 08:12:36 AM

Not just saws. I "bought" two platform ladders on a Black Friday sale, and I'm still waiting on them. Checked on them last week, and "still in process".

The new mower I ordered in April was supposed to get here "the end of June", but I'm still waiting on that too.

mike_belben · July 11, 2021, 02:53:56 PM

I know where theres new 395s on the shelf but sit down when you get the price. PM me if you really want.

Spike60 · July 12, 2021, 06:20:01 AM

Mike; are you talking way above MSRP, as in gouging?

I suppose that anytime there's a shortage of something, there are low lifes who will try and do stuff like that. My advice to anyone is to be patient and wait for some of these orders to be filled.

Al_Smith · July 12, 2021, 07:30:48 AM

In a nut shell it was just a series of events that caused these shortages of nearly everything .Odd thing is during the darkest days of the recent pandemic while you could not find toilet paper to wipe your butt they never ran out of beer .
When finally they had enough TP people bought it by the shopping cart full but no food .If you didn't have any food what good would that do ? ???

mike_belben · July 12, 2021, 08:23:25 AM

No no not at all.. Best folks around. Brick and mortar retail and i try to buy anything i can from them before the big box.

I havent looked at the price in a while but at last glance the shelf had a few big new huskys. Theres almost always a new 372 and 395. Im guessing $1100 plus 10% tax plus ship on the 395.

Spike60 · July 12, 2021, 08:54:29 AM

That's actually a decent price. Those things have gone up over the years. The orders I have in the system were before the April 30th price increase, but I'm not even sure what they are supposed to be now.

mike_belben · July 12, 2021, 09:03:56 AM

I got mine lightly used with a 36" B&C for $600 at least ten years ago and have never had to fix a thing on it. Woe to the pillhead who puts his fingers on my baby.

Greenhighlander · July 12, 2021, 03:25:30 PM

I got my 395 about a year and half ago for $1486 cad I think it was. Came with a 28" Husky bar and chain. After break in I have used it exclusively for milling. Coming up on 100 hours and it has been everything I could ask for from a saw.

Outofbounds · July 12, 2021, 08:42:27 PM

For now the 372xp is pulling her way through the cants while we wait for the 395.

The tin we ordered for the new barn roof has been on BO for a while as well.

Definitely no shortage of suds or hard stuff around here...although we have gone through our share in the recent heat waves.

When sitting back looking at the sun set over the pile, stickered, the heat and hours put in don't seem like work at all!

snobdds · July 13, 2021, 10:48:40 AM

Quote from: Al_Smith on July 11, 2021, 06:44:04 AM
There are shortages of just about every thing .Would you believe a shortage of paint .I buy most of my paint through Sherwin-Williams .They tell me because a resin plant in Texas froze up because the Texans ran out of electrical power some how that is the cause of it .Who would have known that ?They just can't get the paint to be able to sell it . I get a discount and from what I see the prices have not so far escalated like they normally do-----yet

The guy at the lumber yard blamed that same ice storm on OSB and plywood being so high because the resin factory froze up.
I guess everything with a high price or lack of supply is being blamed on that one ice storm.

mike_belben · July 13, 2021, 01:41:20 PM

Which is interesting since manufacturers have typically been pretty good about keeping procurement specialists employed and having warehouses full of needed materials, futures contracts to control input material costs, backup suppliers etc etc.

Im sure there have been some real disruptions but im also pretty confident there has been a lot of Bullcrap.

ehp · July 13, 2021, 02:38:02 PM

My bobcat dealer still only has maybe 5 saws in stock where it should be closer to 50 saws . I put a new set of super flotation tires on my new 740s but had to wait quite a long time to get them . As soon as I got them the bobcat dealer wanted my older tires and rims cause they couldn't get any . They offered me pretty good money for them but I told them I wanted about 25% less for them and would be happy on that lower price . SOLD. We're still not seeing alot of saws or machines up here . Lots of stores have zero machines to sell

stavebuyer · July 13, 2021, 03:49:54 PM

I was in our local shop that sells both Husky and Stihl on Monday. The Stihl side of the store had 3 homeowner saws on the wall, no gas blowers or trimmers. The Husky wall was about the same on saws but did have gas trimmers and hedge clippers. Luckily all I needed was a new front tire for my ZTR which they had. Must be tough to try and run a business with no merchandise. Frustrating for us but I imagine its really painful to be on their side of the counter.

Tacotodd · July 13, 2021, 04:31:49 PM

As long as I don't have any problem getting chain then I'll be fine, but I don't go through enough to matter much. Besides that, I tend to order my chain 2 at-a-time. That way, I'll always have time to wait. But you just need to remember, I'm not doing this for a living and I'm only doing it because I LIKE IT!!!!! 😍

Spike60 · July 14, 2021, 05:50:08 AM

Doing it for a living or not, it's still smart to think ahead like that. And too few people are doing that. Many people have a built in barrier to spending money before they need to. Others like to stock up on stuff; save money, save extra trips.

@stavebuyer ; from my side of the counter the saw wall looks great, but the floor looks like a banquet hall or handball court. Always stock heavy on saws.

No Exmarks until next year. Not that big a deal to me as our numbers are up from a good start to the year as we blew everything out. And to be honest retirement isn't that far away cause I'm not going to be one of those guys who goes right from that counter into the coffin.

The REAL problem is that every single person in the industry I talk to says it's gonna get worse before it gets better, and we've got at least another year of this. We're a small shop and would have no problem surviving. But a lot of these big and multi store operations really have a monster to feed, and it will be difficult for many of those larger operations to go another year with little to no product to sell.

Tomorrow we are going to start filling the one side of the show room with the Ariens sno thros. Always a comical reaction from the "I hate winter" crowd.

sawguy21 · July 14, 2021, 12:01:16 PM

Snowblowers ??? Nobody is even thinking about them with our temperatures! They will start showing up late September once the last of the mowers are gone and nobody is buying those at the moment. Our lawns look like wheat stubble.

HemlockKing · July 14, 2021, 02:42:21 PM

Quote from: sawguy21 on July 14, 2021, 12:01:16 PM
Snowblowers ??? Nobody is even thinking about them with our temperatures! They will start showing up late September once the last of the mowers are gone and nobody is buying those at the moment. Our lawns look like wheat stubble.

I'm waiting the imminent heat wave we have here for every august, usually doesn't drop below 70(even at night) for 2 weeks or so, render yourself useless in that. I don't know how people work in the south. I would say my ancestry probably originates where there aren't many sunny days lol person of the fog

ehp · July 14, 2021, 07:36:53 PM

a stihl dealer in the big city is asking $63.95 for a 20 inch stihl chain cause few places has chain , thats pretty well double list price

sawguy21 · July 14, 2021, 09:18:30 PM

I would contact Stihl Canada, there is no excuse for gouging. Having said that, there are other dealers and other brands but if someone is so blinded by brand loyalty it becomes their problem.

mike_belben · July 14, 2021, 11:50:38 PM

Welp those big huskys sold. I think largest left on shelf was 60some CC for around $700. I barely glanced so dont quote me on that part.

Spike60 · July 15, 2021, 05:24:17 AM

Fed Ex showing up today with some 562's. Was only out of stock for a week on those, so no big deal there.

Far as thise snow thros go, they are the only things we have to roll in there, so that's why they are coming out early. But the message is also "this is all we got and all we're gonna get, so grab 'em while they're here." Same for the back pack leaf blowers.

Most of our suppliers, (Husky, Exmark, Red Max, and Ariens), have done a good job of shipping our pre-season or stock orders. Some of it was late, but we got just about everything. It's when you try and go back for more that it all falls apart.