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Started by nativewolf, January 04, 2020, 09:01:30 PM

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nativewolf

Hearing so much about the fires.  I just hope for the best for everyone in one of my favorite countries.  Special thoughts for all of our posters in upside down land.  If you can spend your whole life standing upside down on a ball I guess the fires won't keep your spirits low for too long.  Stay safe and best wishes!
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dustintheblood

Very gracious of you Nativewolf.  We in Canada send our best to them as well.  It's pretty unimaginable.
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sawguy21

My thoughts are with all of you as well, I have experienced forest fires and they are devastating. Above all, stay safe.
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YellowHammer

Me too, I've been watching it on the news.  Devastating situation.  I've visited Adelaide, it's a beautiful place.  Great people.  
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Ianab

You know it's bad when you get visible smoke haze over 1,000 miles downwind...  :(
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Okefenokee_D

Houses can be rebuilt. Forest can regrow. Humans cant.

I wish people would prepare more in the future for any catastrophe. Many don't though..."It would never happen to me".

Ianab

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Andries

Canadian fire fighters have been on rotation to Australia, to give support. My eldest daughter's friend, Jon, will ship out in ten days. He's been a 'sky dog' for many years in Canada's Northwest Territories, coordinating air and ground efforts.
He's one of our best. 
Best wishes to all that are part of Australia's fire fighting and evacuation efforts!
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bushmechanic

Yes it was only yesterday I was thinking of longtime lurker and how he was fearing out with all the destruction. We have firefighters from Newfoundland and Labrador sent down under as well. Godspeed to you all!

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thecfarm

It's always bad/sad to see fires of that size.
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moodnacreek

Can't help but think about Australia's fires and of course our friend double L. Pray they get rain.

YellowHammer

I heard the estimated number of animals killed due to the fires, on the news today, it was incredible.  Many, many millions.  During our visit there, it was very obvious that Australians take great pride in their wildlife.  They even had specially designed undercuts and tunnels under the roads called "Koala Bear Crossings" to limit road kills.  These fires are devastating to the flora and fauna.     

I'm not sure what the end run will be?  How do you put out so many fires all over the county?  Let them burn to the nearest coastline?  Wait and hold you own until rains come?  Seems overwhelming.     
YellowHammerisms:

Take steps to save steps.

If it won't roll, its not a log; it's still a tree.  Sawmills cut logs, not trees.

Kiln drying wood: When the cookies are burned, they're burned, and you can't fix them.

Sawing is fun for the first couple million boards.

Be smarter than the sawdust

longtime lurker

I'm good guys, and thanks for the thoughts.

So about 10% of Australia is currently on fire.... which is normal for us at this time of year. Gets hot and dry before the rains come and a lot of our vegetation actually needs fire to crack seed pods to germinate etc. There's fires on the ranges behind me but those are normal seasonal fires.

The fires down south - about 2000 miles from me - are not so normal. So at last check about 12 million acres - an area the size of Belgium, or Vermont and New Hampshire combined - have so far been burnt and a lot of that is total devastation. I was talking with a friend down there the other day, he's a logging contractor and out on the fireline pushing breaks - and basically livestock and wildlife are cooked, and it'll take a generation for the forest to recover.

The fire is being carried on high winds, its burning through the treetops a couple mile in front of the actual ground fire and cinders are starting spot fires miles in front of that.... its a total inferno. 

They can't put it out.... too big, too fast, and too hot. What they're doing is evacuating people out the way of the thing and its going to take a weather change to stop it.

Good news is theres a Cyclone/hurricane forming in the Indian Ocean and after pummelling the West Coast it'll come across the continent as a rain depression and fix the problem. Hopefully. Things are bad when you're praying for a hurricane... but thats how it is. 

It's bad down there, really really bad. So far loss of life has been minimal but forest / farms/ towns/ animals.... just gone. 
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Ianab

One of Lil's good friends works at a Snowy Mts ski field that got burnt up. She was renting, but she now basically has the clothes she's wearing and her car. She is OK, but her rental house and her work are gone. 

She flew from Aussie to Rarotonga for our wedding, so a good friend, that likes to party.  :D

I could repost a picture of her favorite coffee mug ( that got burnt), but I'd have to send myself to the Woodshed. All the words start with "F" 
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Riwaka

There is a 'friends of forestry' FB page that has pics of the aussie logging contractors (with the usual large converted cat excavators and cat skidders, cat dozer with home made grapple etc) that have been bought in to clear roads and take down hazardous burnt trees that are still standing next to public roads. Fire can burn the centre of the trees to leave a charcoal standing pipe. 

There has been a bit of rain in some places but fires are still burning.

Riwaka

Wollemi pines saved by firefighters.

Long link fixed by admin

(there is a good article online on how these trees were initially 'found' etc )

Riwaka

3000 miles of road are lined with fire damaged trees. Lots of charred plantation forest. Hopes to cut charred timber and put under water sprinkler storage etc.

Agricultural reporter talks to Aus Forest Products chief Ross Hampton (9 minutes)
https://www.4bc.com.au/podcast/forestry-sector-warns-industry-will-take-years-to-recover-from-fires/?fbclid=IwAR2eYaGL4LBcatZb0VPgsgLltM-qBtaum5uMhifq7PUkmXhGwDiZGjlmJis

Aus Timber re-scheduled till november 2020
https://www.afca.asn.au/www-austimber-org-au?fbclid=IwAR03BHpG5z720nZjAl33T3vSy-PPLnae4-jOgvYud-mUXBbLlqmfdW4g62g

nativewolf

Thanks for the interesting links @Riwaka .

Hope some rain has dampened some of the worst of it.
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Riwaka

Another very bad day on the fire grounds. Fire fighting plane crew and plane lost on fire fighting duties in Australia.
Condolences to the relatives/ families of those associated.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-23/nsw-rfs-air-tanker-crashes-near-numeralla-bushfire/11893554?pfmredir=sm

doc henderson

WOW!  very sad.  I have great respect for the folks that put them selves out there.
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Ianab

Likely an American crew that went down. It was a C130 flown in from the US to help out.  :'(
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sawguy21

Yes, three American crew members in a Canadian C130 configured as a bomber. I worked in the helicopter industry, it is very dangerous work on the firelines. I knew people that were lost. :'(
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doc henderson

Timber king 2000, 277c track loader, PJ 32 foot gooseneck, 1976 F700 state dump truck, JD 850 tractor.  2007 Chevy 3500HD dually, home built log splitter 18 horse 28 gpm with 5 inch cylinder and 32 inch split range with conveyor powered by a 12 volt tarp motor

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