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We have a discussion going on in the sawmill board called LINK>> age of sawmillers (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=29247.0)

I thought I would start a poll where we could get an idea. Before the results even start coming in, I'm betting it is in the mid 40's :)

Look's like my age group is already in front with a huge lead...(1). 8) 8) 8)  I better start a PM campaign to get out the vote. ;D

Quote from: Larry on January 13, 2008, 05:41:26 PM
Look's like my age group is already in front with a huge lead...(1). 8) 8) 8)  I better start a PM campaign to get out the vote. ;D

Well if ya call me with a recording, I'm hangin up on ya. ;) :D

Don't most members fill out the age data on their profile?  Couldn't you just pull that and get the results?   smiley_headscratch

Some do, some don't.  This is totally anonymous this way. Folks that dont want to tell us how old they are can participate without having it hung on their profile. It lets us find an approximate average and maybe have a little fun as well.  I suppose I could dig into the database and get the average of the listed ages, but, I dont wanna. ;D ;)

I've been pretty sure for a long time now that it is in the early to mid 50's, but you'll only know based on those that actually complete the poll.
We have tons of folks that won't even see it that can easily throw the average off.

Those people would be 'out-liers' to a statistician.  ;)

I doubt it will be off much. The odds are an equal number of older people will miss it to younger people. To be off, you would have to believe that one age group or another is more apt to miss the poll. I'm not brave enough to go there. ;)

Asking for ages is like asking the farmer what his yield was this fall.  :D :D :D

I'm pushing getting in the upper bunch  :D

Are we supposed to answer with:

1. Feel like age
2. Act like age
3. Chronological age
4. Pretend age

Those are all different for me and some change daily.

smiley_old_guy

Looks like the classic 'Bell' curve taking shape up there Jeff. ;)

1. Feel like age   -----90
2. Act like age    -----10
3. Chronological age--62
4. Pretend age--------21

Those poll  figures above, described by some as a perfect Bell Curve, remind me of Alfred Hitchock's profile.  :D

I know one in the first catagory... ;)  Let's see if I can drag him out of hiding. :D

That's funny Tom.  ;D :D

One of the things I always looked for in his movies was he himself walking across a scene. Unless you already saw the movie, you never knew where he would appear. Sometimes even if you saw it, you were still looking the next time you watched it. ;D

I'm still looking for some of his cameo's.  I was told that they can appear anywhere in the film.  I always looked for it in the beginning. 

Of the few films I have on DVD he was on fairly early on.

Spoiler Alert  smiley_exclamation smiley_exclamation

In "North By Northwest", he climbs onto the bus just after the credits. In Vertigo, he crosses the street after the first office scene carrying a black object.

Well, I seem to be above average, as usual. ;D 8) 8)

Is 'above' up or down the page? :D :D


I was taught 'North' was up on the map and 'South' was down.  :P

Ah !!!  But Dan you and I give the bell its shape  ;) 

  Those numbers Bob would work for me , all but one , sub the 62 for 48 and it works .  :)

Well,  my age is just about average at 62.  Ya gotta be pretty well seasoned to remember Alfred's masterpieces.  He said he knew he'd made a good movie when there wasn't a dry seat in the house :D :D

I think that curve is starting to look startlingly like Homer Simpson.

At the moment, I would say it looked like a pregnant woman. :D


Dave

Quote from: Dave Shepard on January 14, 2008, 12:00:14 AM
At the moment, I would say it looked like a pregnant woman. :D


Dave

Nah, there aint enough 36-40 year olds for that.  :D

I was thinking it, but didn't wanna say it. :D I figured Furby would catch on to that one first. ;D


Dave

I dunno Tom. Seems like I pretty much resemble the profile myself. Big bulge in the middle. :D

Thanks for starting the poll. The shape looks interesting - so far it falls off rapidly in the late 60's. Wonder why ? :D

DanG........

Quote from: kelLOGg on January 14, 2008, 07:16:28 AM
Thanks for starting the poll. The shape looks interesting - so far it falls off rapidly in the late 60's. Wonder why ? :D

Cause they earned the right to sleep in and aint voted yet. ;)

I'm up and voted, DanG it!

Slept all the way through Sunday, didya TR? :D :D

Looks like I'm not "over-the-hill" yet.  8)

Well, I answered your poll before I read your message.  I'm not a sawmiller, but my age is in the poll anyway. ;D  I'm really not all that old.....I'm just well worn. :D  Tom is not only real old but he's worn out! :o

Wow!  It drops off sharply after 55, then again to almost nothing after 65.

That's the way it is, almost nothing after 65 :'(

Somebody get Mr. Ivan Booker to sign up for the over 80.  Hurry!

Sheesh.  I feel like I've wandered into an old folks home!  *running*  ;) ;D

You can't hide. It'll catch you wherever you go.

I was just kiddin'!  Honest!  'sides, I ain't no spring chicken anymore.  40 is looming real close.

40?  :D :D :D

About like my cousin, he thinks he's old at 41.  :D

Naw.  I don't think I'm old.  But I'm certainly not 'young' anymore, either.  And I really was just kidding.  I'm well aware that most of the 'old timers' around here could probably kick my butt!

Us old farts are here to help.  (That's what I tell my kids) 8)

Well, I'm with warbird, Staring 40 in the eye, not sure which of us will blink first...

Quote from: Jeff on January 14, 2008, 12:11:07 AM
Nah, there aint enough 36-40 year olds for that.  :D

I've voted now, helping this group!

Boss I was surprised at your guesstimate of mid 40's, I would have guessed more like Furby's guess, at Mid 50's. Mind you it's a little late to be guessing now, the bell seems well and truly established...

asy :D

 58
  I have nothing else to say about that!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote from: slidecreekdan on January 16, 2008, 08:07:26 AM
58
  I have nothing else to say about that!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oldtimers eh? ;)

Burlkraft must not have voted cause there is not a category for "about to be born again."  :) :)

I am not only above average, but at the top of my age group.  8)

Not but 15 in and above my age, you young whipper snappers better start paying respect to us old gray heads. ::)

Quote from: Texas Ranger on January 16, 2008, 10:11:36 AM
Not but 15 in and above my age, you young whipper snappers better start paying respect to us old gray heads. ::)

I think those of us that some of you view as younger *are* here as a measure of respect.  Life experience is worth a lot and if younger folks would take the time to listen to folks who've already been down that road, they might find life a lot easier.

Right now, I'm going through "the transition".  I'm not quite 40 yet and still consider myself young.  However, I've been letting lots of the 'kids' from church use my shop/garage to work on their vehicles.  Trying to change out a water pump at -35 F just ain't no fun unless you're in a heated shop with compressed air and some of those types of goodies.

The realization that I'm in this 'transition period' was sort of a rude awakening.  See, the 'kids' (who are all well into their 20's) kept calling me Mr 'Warbird', and saying "thank you so much", and in one case, the kid couldn't get one of the water pump bolts loose and was worried about twisting the head off of it.  So I showed him a few tricks and we got 'er done.  The look on his face when that bolt loosened up is something I hope to remember for a long time.  He was so happy it was just great.  That young man just got married and it was his girl friend's (now wife's) car.

Anyway...  it was shocking to realize that these 'kids' were looking up to me the way I look up to my Elders at church or some of you guys around here.  Yeah, younger folks *should* respect their elders and try to learn from them.  It doesn't always happen that way in today's world but when it does, it sure is special.

Warbird, I didn't think I was old, till stuff stopped working right this past year, and I got a couple of decades on ya.  Keep thinking young, helps a bunch.

Oh to be forty again!!!!

Stonebroke

Oh to be 54 again.!!!!

Quote from: Gary_C on January 16, 2008, 09:22:51 AM
Burlkraft must not have voted cause there is not a category for "about to be born again."  :) :)

I suppose I should change that, as my born again date was July 10, 2007  ::)  ::)  ::)

I didn't think I'd be startin' over so soon   :D  :D  :D  :D

I brought in a whopping 0.5% for the under twenties  ;D

Quote from: Warbird on January 16, 2008, 11:25:04 AM

Right now, I'm going through "the transition".  I'm not quite 40 yet and still consider myself young. 

The realization that I'm in this 'transition period' was sort of a rude awakening. 

Same thing for me.  I teach music at a local college, and one day I came in to hear a student do an audition.  I had to wait outside the audition room for awhile because I was earlier, so I heard a sax player doing his audition through the door.  He was a pretty good player and the girl who was waiting to go next started to get really nervous.  She kept looking in and listening to the guy who was playing, and starting to look more and more apprehensive with each moment.  She saw me and then said, "Man...he's really good.  Is he your son?"   :o   :D

I didn't know that I looked old enough to have a high school senior as a son...but since I'm in my late thirties, I guess it's not inconceivable. 

I'm definitely in that transition period too.   ::)

Paschale, I had to laugh when I read your post.  I got to thinking "Oh man, when I'm 37 I WILL have a high school senior. :("  I'm hoping that I'll get comments like "you look way too young to have kids that in high school."   :D 

Yeah, I'm in that transition period too.  Been in it for a while now. . . . . ::)

Well I must'a got old and crusty at an early age cause all the college girls said I looked older than my age. I was 19 or 20. :D Then when I got to 37 I had no hair left on top, so then I knew I didn't have a chance. Seems hair makes a big difference to some people.  :D :D Does chest hairs count? SwampDonkey the woolly bear. :D :D

My husband had the same problem.  When he was a little younger and he would go to buy beer he would always get carded if he had a hat on, but if didn't wear a hat he wouldn't.  He swears he's not going bald though, his forhead is just growing.

SD, you're just hanging out in the wrong places.  The women that are really in the know, realize that a slick pate is a sign of a real man.  Just why those other guys are wasting all those hormones growing a bunch of hair on their head is a mystery to me. ???

I always was told that chest hairs made the man, so I was all them years growing it there.  :D

Nahh, all them chest hairs'll do is keep yer teats warm.  It's the bald head and the twinkle in yer eye that'll draw the ladies. ;D

Quote from: DanG on January 17, 2008, 09:27:45 PM
Nahh, all them chest hairs'll do is keep yer teats warm.

 

Oh the humanity  yikes_smiley   :D

I just changed my age group to 26 to 30 it didn't seem to help I'm still sore maybe I'll feel better in the morning. ;) ;D

well I'll leave it at that.  :D

Quote from: Paul_H on January 17, 2008, 09:46:36 PM

Quote from: DanG on January 17, 2008, 09:27:45 PM
Nahh, all them chest hairs'll do is keep yer teats warm.

 

Oh the humanity  yikes_smiley   :D

Paul, I do believe we are witnessing what happens to people who live where there are no seasons. :D


Dave

Yep!  Pore ol' Swampdonkey ain't got nuthin' but Winter.  I don't see how he maintains as cheerfull of a attitude as he has.  'Course, he could be fakin' it, but I don't see how he could.  We done had 3 straight days of sub-70, and I'm ready to pinch the head off of anything that gets in my way! :o :o

SwampDonkey must have at least one mud season mixed in with all that snow season. :D
Speaking of SD, I was working on leaning on a piece of equipment from Centreville, N.B. today, a Thomas skid loader! ;D


Dave

Well it looks like the average is shifting younger. ;)

Quote from: Dave Shepard on January 17, 2008, 10:04:03 PM

Quote from: Paul_H on January 17, 2008, 09:46:36 PM

Quote from: DanG on January 17, 2008, 09:27:45 PM
Nahh, all them chest hairs'll do is keep yer teats warm.

 

Oh the humanity  yikes_smiley   :D

Paul, I do believe we are witnessing what happens to people who live where there are no seasons. :D


Dave

Dave, you raise a very good point.  DanG:  Why do you have to worry about keeping your teats warm when you live in Florida?

:D :D

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Quote from: metalspinner on January 13, 2008, 09:40:17 PM
I know one in the first catagory... ;)  Let's see if I can drag him out of hiding. :D

:D :D :D
I'm not hiding, I'm just playing in the sawdust.

Quote from: farmerdoug on January 17, 2008, 11:45:59 PM
Well it looks like the average is shifting younger. ;)

I will help it shift to the younger. ;D

Men who are bald on the front of their head think alot, those who are bald on the back are sexy , those who are bald front to back just think they are sexy  ;)  :-[

At 57 this comin' March I got to thinking about how you "have to" work smarter, not harder. One of the same really. So I wonder how much more innovative we become with age just out of necessity alone.
I'm a builder in renovations and just yesterday I had to get a bay window in alone.UGH.
In the old days if I didn't have any help available at the time I'd probably have muscled it up to one platform on some saw horses 4 feet up and then onto another right by the window opening.
Yesterday I decided to do it a safer and more efficient way which was to spend the time setting up some pump jacks....strapped the bay window onto it and pumped each side up slowly then slipped er' right in like.......uhhh...well...just slipped er' in  8).
I think a different portion of your brain kicks in the older you get.

We have our house up for sale now and once we're out of here we'll probably be moving on to a more rural area...maybe in the Asheville NC area where I'd like to get started learning timber framing and build my own. Been told its a "youngs man sport"...screw that...I'm just needing  to use this new section of brain I discovered...lol.
So at 57 I'm guessing I'm gonna be getting into sawyer work and timber Framing along with my regular home renovations I've been doing the past 30+ years.
Work smart/not hard (so to speak).
Be well
andy

Quote from: Dave Shepard on January 17, 2008, 10:32:59 PM

Speaking of SD, I was working on leaning on a piece of equipment from Centreville, N.B. today, a Thomas skid loader! ;D
Dave

Funny about that, I'll see those Thomas loaders half way across the country and locally a lot of Bobcats. :D

Yeah they make the Thomas loaders in town. We had two and they lasted a long time. Dad had one all my life on the farm. Used it to shovel potatoes and clean up around the conveyors, move machinery. A big potato processing empire bought the company out years ago and sold to a Korean firm 3 or 4 years ago and then some how bought it back. I think the Koreans wanted the patents. They still build a few here.

The mechanic was working on the chain drive and I must say it was very rugged. Much heavier than our Case 1835, and it went 10,500 without much work on the chain drive part. The Thomas has been a pretty reliable machine, especially consideriny the people that have been using it since new. :o


Dave

Well, if I'm 5o today and average
my age over the next ten years, when I'm 60 my average age for the 10 years will be 55. Not bad for a 60 year old.

Bill

Well I spose this should be appropriate to put here.
John Stewart of the Kingston Trio fame just died. A true legend.
I think this thread may be worthy of this clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWwayDfJtkE&feature=related

What a coincidence.  For some reason, yesterday morning, I was googling his name and reading his web info.  What a coincidence that is.  Yessir, a coincidence.  :)

It's such a bummer to be in the majority.   :'(

Hey, DanG, just for you'n me:

  "... Everybody knows it's testosterone
  that turns a bushy haired man
  into a chrome-dome
  but testosterone
  is what makes a man a man
  the more that he's got
  the more that he can
  do the things that make the women go
  OY! ..."

from "Bald Headed Men"
Words & Music by Christine Lavin

;D ;D

Well I am not in the majority but I am not really a minority either!  8)

Quote from: Brucer on January 23, 2008, 01:42:33 AM
Hey, DanG, just for you'n me:

  "... Everybody knows it's testosterone
  that turns a bushy haired man
  into a chrome-dome
  but testosterone
  is what makes a man a man
  the more that he's got
  the more that he can
  do the things that make the women go
  OY! ..."

from "Bald Headed Men"
Words & Music by Christine Lavin

;D ;D

Right on, Brucer!  The Good Lord only made a few perfect heads, ya know.  He had ta put hair on the rest of'em. ;D

Just voted and I am a minority. 

  Sure is an interesting bell shaped curve. I'm not at the top yet, but the crest is right ahead!
Mark

How about male or female. I wonder what that ratio is.

Male to Female Ratio: 18.7:1

Quote from: Jeff on January 13, 2008, 05:09:39 PM
We have a discussion going on in the sawmill board called LINK>> age of sawmillers (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=29247.0)

I thought I would start a poll where we could get an idea. Before the results even start coming in, I'm betting it is in the mid 40's :)

Jeff, you'd better "up" that a bit by the looks of it.

Mark

Yeah, it corresponds to what we found when woodlot owners were polled. The average age was around 58.  ;)

Quote from: semologger on February 07, 2008, 07:04:06 PM
How about male or female. I wonder what that ratio is.

Quote from: pigman on February 07, 2008, 10:21:15 PM
Male to Female Ratio: 18.7:1

  I had no idea Bob you was a mathemagisien  ;D
    I do know that if a certain Mary ever started reading here it would 17.7 : 1  ;D :D :D

Actually the 50th precentile is in the 46-50 bracket so Jeff is pretty DanG close right now. ;) :) :) :)

I always wanted to be above average in something. :o

Can I still Play? at 61 I must be close to the top, I just act like a kid! 8)

                                                                                                                                                    When I was 21 my neighbor was 29, I though to myself Man he's old! How time changes your thinking ! smiley_old_guy

Quote from: pigman on February 07, 2008, 10:21:15 PM
Male to Female Ratio: 18.7:1

Are you sure it isn't 18.7:2? Wait! how can you have .7 of a person?! :D ??? ::)

Currently: Male to Female Ratio: 19.3:1  ;D :)

Man, what a nice "bell curve".  I'm surprised too Jeff that the average age is a bit older than I thought, although I thought it would be one step up from you.

That curve is "textbook" though.  Good distribution of ages.

Mark

yeah I look forward to learning something from all of ya...........

Dilemma-
Can't remember if you voted in an age survey.
jim

Its easy enough in this one. If you voted, you cant vote again. If you didn't, you can still vote.  :)  Its Fogie Proofed. :) ;)

Aw shucks. that means we can't vote Chicago style.

Stonebroke

What is our average age?

I tried to figure my average age and kept getting 1 !?

I took my age and divided it by the number of birthdays I've had and keep getting the same answer.   ???

I am much more experienced than the average age of the survey responders. I am not one to boast, but I happen to have the energy of someone twice my age!

And I think I am doing quite well, there are only 21 who voted in age groups higher than me and I can still get out of bed in the morning under my own power, just not as fast as I did 40 yrs ago. 8)

Well the curve looks right b(normal statistic curve) largest percentage in the middle and you have the few minoritys on the outside.

Welcome to a minority end. ;)

Why does the poll link say "remove vote"  ?   How do you vote?    Not that I care, as I'm "over the hump"  ;D 

I think you missed it.Most polls are only going for so long.This one was started back In Jan.Maybe Jeff will get it going again.

I am 62. I feel like I am still 42. I do, however, have the energy of someone twice my age!

Sparky

If it says remove vote, it means you already voted. If you don't remember voting, then it means you are probably old. ;)   You can remove your vote, then vote again if you think you were wrong the first time.

Quote from: Jeff on July 26, 2008, 03:32:35 PM
If it says remove vote, it means you already voted. If you don't remember voting, then it means you are probably old. ;)   You can remove your vote, then vote again if you think you were wrong the first time.

But if you can't remember voting, how do you know your voted wrong the first time... ?  ;)

I thought you were supposed to remove your vote when you die, just to keep the thing current. ::)

I'm kinda proud that my age bracket is majority

Hey, what do you know?! I'm in the largest cohort! 8)

It's nice to have company!

Gday

Like Dad says the Older I Get The Yonger He Is (on average age that is) :D :D :D
Its Funny when ppl think Im Him OR He's Me  :D :D or the ???  at work are You two Brothers smiley_argue01 what would make them think that ???  ;) :D :D
He's 47 and Im 27

Chris McMahon

When you have a birthday you might change brackets like I just did.  So remove vote and add it back in the next one down.  Depressing, maybe, but it beats the alternative if you don't have more birthdays.

I'm almost ready for another birthday (Jan), at that time, I'll hit 60 and just keep on sawing.

I think this sawin' thing keeps ya goin'!  ;)

hi all,

just voted-am 70 today-am ok....Bert

Happy Birthday, York!

Happy Birthday

Gday York and Happy Birthday Mate  ;D 8)

Reguards Chris McMahon

Hey Jeff, any chance on setting up a recount on this to compare today with this old poll?

i have been knocked down . steped on .. filed bank rupcy / over 10 major surgeries . all joints but one made up with titanium and plastic . belittled , made fun of . cant type /spell worse .but one thing i am proud of going on 84 and thanks to god i am still kicking